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Re: Obasanjo's Letter Is An Attempt To Instigate A Coup - Afenifere by deletrue: 2:49pm On Dec 31, 2013
Real-Mccoy:

Annulment was payment for Abiola’s evil deeds – Sen Owie


on June 12, 2013 / in Politics, Top Stories 12:18 am / Comments

By Emmanuel Aziken, Political Editor

Former member of the House of Representatives, former Senate Chief Whip and chieftain of the Peoples Democratic Party, PDP, Rowland Stephen Owie says the annulment of the June 12, 1993 presidential election was a divine recompense for Abiola’s alleged past political misdeeds.

What is your perspective on the June 12, 1993 election?
When people talk about June 12, June 12; June 12 has no meaning. June 12 is the repayment of evil for MKO Abiola. Whatever you sow, you reap. I said about four years ago that if Abiola had been president he would have been dead.

You think so?
Yes, let me tell you. Before anyone can say that the annulment was evil they should answer four questions. Number one, who was that politician that brought what was called the Maroko land deal to limelight? Who was that politician who used the Maroko land deal as an albatross on the neck of Chief Obafemi Awolowo? Who is that Nigerian or group of Nigerians who went to Obasanjo and connived with him and removed the Electoral College act from the decree of 1978?

Who is that politician or group of politicians that aided the military to take over the government of President Shehu Shagari in 1983 after the NPN convention? Who is that politician? Who is that politician that aided the military in disqualifying all the major candidates of SDP and NRC?

I say if they can answer it and the answer is negative for MKO Abiola, then the annulment of June 12 is evil. But if the answer is yes and it’s MKO Abiola, the annulment of June 12 was the best thing that happened because you can’t plant mango and reap yam.

In 1979 I was in the UPN as a member of the House of Representatives and there was a provision in the transition decree of 1978/79 which made provision for Electoral College if the presidential election became inconclusive, and it really was inconclusive, because Shagari did not get two-third of the 19 states. So, we were preparing for Electoral College. NPP, GNPP, PRP and UPN we had majority in the National Assembly which constituted the Electoral College.

The late Mallam Aminu Kano of PRP, Alhaji Waziri Ibrahim of GNPP, Nnamdi Azikiwe of NPP and Awolowo of UPN had met and we had all met. But three days to the Electoral College Obasanjo removed the clause on Electoral College; he removed the goal post within the run of play.
Sen. Owie

Sen. Owie

The Electoral College was removed after the election when we were getting ready for it and that was why Awolowo had no other option and he had to go to court and the judgment gave rise to the issue of 12 2/3! A human being cannot be half, he is either full or… and that is why Justice Sowemimo said that that judgment cannot be quoted in future.

Abiola and Obasanjo were involved as Egbas to remove that clause. Concord brought the headline “Maroko land: Awolowo where is your sincerity”. We were in Minna when it was published. Look it deflated the old man, it scattered him, in fact, he was no longer himself and he started battling how to explain.

Now NPN went for their national convention in Kano and Umaru Dikko, he is alive, he said the presidential candidate of the NPN is not for sale. MKO Abiola wanted the presidential ticket he didn’t get it and he then came and aligned with the military people who now came in.

And IBB came and set up two political parties, Shehu Yar‘adua, Adamu Ciroma and other major contenders in SDP and NRC, overnight the military disqualified all of them, aided and abetted by MKO Abiola. Because if Yar‘adua were (involved) there was no way MKO would have won. He was not even in contention until the disqualification of these major contenders. That is why I said that June 12 was a repayment for evil that was done against other people.

But how do you see the June 12 election in terms of electoral conduct and fairness?

The June 12 election because it was an open ballot and had only two parties which cut across tribal lines was one of the fairest elections ever held in this country. June 12 showed what a good government can do in an election. If IBB and Aikhomu wanted to tamper with the election, they could have tampered with the election, but they didn’t. It was a free and fair election but what I am telling you is that the annulment that came later was the hand of Esau and the voice of Jacob.

What do you mean?
What happened was a repayment for evil.

But was that justified on the nation?
Yes! What I am saying is that it was God’s own work, it was God’s own work.

For Abiola’s alleged sin of…
All the sins!

But did that justify the derailment of the collective hope of Nigerians?
What is the collective hope of Nigerians?

Democracy
Was the Buhari coup against Shagari justified? Was that the collective will of Nigerians?

That is debatable because many Nigerians welcomed the coup just as majority of Nigerians were against the annulment of June 12.

It is because you are a pressman. Do you know how many people in my village that were not interested and were happy with the annulment, even though some of us were not happy.

You, were you happy with the annulment?
The annulment served Abiola right, quote me! You cannot be destroying other people and expect to have victory. There is a parable that all those who destroy other people will end up having destruction at the hour of their victory. MKO should not have expected anything less. Tell me, was it justified for Shehu Musa Yar‘adua and Falae in the SDP to be disqualified? What did they do? Was it justified for Adamu Ciroma and co in the NRC to be disqualified? What did they do? They were all disqualified in both parties so that MKO Abiola who was a friend of the military could emerge as the strongest candidate.

It was no secret that he paraded himself as a friend of the military. That man could not have expected to become president of Nigeria when he had ruined many people. The truth is that God does not come down to do some of these things Himself. He uses human beings as instruments and that is why when a man is looking for elective or appointive position, maybe as LGA chairman, governor, minister or president, he is looking for an aspect of the divinity of God. It is out of that divinity that the man in charge of affairs takes, compassion, service to the people, ability to manage everybody, forgiveness.

Unfortunately, the moment you get that position and you do not utilise it, not generally, just some part of it…if you watch when Christ cured the ten lepers only one came back to say thank you, but he said where are the other nine? And if you read Hipppolytus he said that as soon as Christ asked where are the nine that the leprosy returned to the nine and they died of leprosy.
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Re: Obasanjo's Letter Is An Attempt To Instigate A Coup - Afenifere by walex2(m): 2:56pm On Dec 31, 2013
There is no doubt that Jonathan is a slow poke who can't perform but that doesn't not warranty the issue of coup detact atleat we have waited and endure his four yrs of his management we should atleat endure the reamainig 2yrs of misadventure till 2015 when we voted him out with his stupid ijaw mentality. I began to suspect the motive of OB J letter when I realised he copied IBB and Abdulsalam. Why not copying Shonekan, Shagari, Buhari and Gowon aswell? Atleast they are all both ex-president the baboon OBJ and his cohort wud fail woefully. Because military rule is no more popular at this golden age.
Re: Obasanjo's Letter Is An Attempt To Instigate A Coup - Afenifere by cap28: 3:02pm On Dec 31, 2013
Omo_Tier1:
There is no grass root movement in Nigeria, all of them are hungry people looking to fill their stomach! Why is it that after every election all the so called grass root movement fizzle away like rose under the scorching morning sun?
No one prays for coup or war, but when a sitting President engage in wanton looting and wide spread corruption, no doubt a coup will follow whether civilian or military coup and that is what Nigeria is facing going into 2014.
I have asked this question, had GEJ done the needful by provide adequate leadership and development across nigeria, do you think there will be any power struggle within PDP let alone the entire Nigeria polity?
A man whose words cannot be trusted is a good as a criminal because He is an innate liar. Unfortunately, that is how GEJ is now being viewed both home and abroad.

I hear what you are saying but a grass roots movement is the only hope for the Nigerian masses anything short of that will be a continuation of what you are seeing today.

It needs to be well organised just like the one that swept Chavez and Castro into power. The masses need to be made aware of the fact that anything short of a grassroots movement means that they and generations unborn will be condemned to a life of endless poverty and suffering. The reality is that as long as the likes of obj, gej and other criminals continue to feature at the helm of Nigerian affairs there is no hope for over 80% of Nigeria's population.

The current labour movements in Nigeria are infiltrated by govt agents and that's why they have not been effective, remember how quickly PENGASSAN called off their strike when GEJ hiked petrol prices following instructions from the IMF?

Expecting GEJ who was appointd by Obj (following authorisation from the US/Britain) to offer anything positive to the people of Nigeria is like expecting a drug addict to keep off the crack pipe. Why would any sane person expect someone who had already looted his state govt coffers to become a changed man upon assuming the office of president?. Do you think these our leaders are chosen on the basis of their impeccable track record or what? HOw many Nigerian heads of state do you know of that been able to provide the most basic amenities for the Nigerian people?

By the way GEJ is where he is today because of OBJ, Europe and America therefore his allegiance is to obj, Europe and America not the Nigerian people so why would you have such high expectations of him in the first place?

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Re: Obasanjo's Letter Is An Attempt To Instigate A Coup - Afenifere by anonimi: 3:04pm On Dec 31, 2013
ndu_chucks:
That's why I wrote: It is my view, however, that this coup is not forthcoming and our best bet for now is a democratic regime change. APC may be our very last hope.

Which APC are u talking about
The one that is filled with PDP's reject and calls OBJoke its "navigator" shocked
Do u have something else better to propose?

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Re: Obasanjo's Letter Is An Attempt To Instigate A Coup - Afenifere by walezy14(m): 3:10pm On Dec 31, 2013
Obj had spoken the minds of 80% Nigerians in his 18 pages controversial letter.
Gej has succeeded in bringing Nigeria economy growth and development to nothing. No concrete achievements made so far and this has utterly jeopadized well-being of the citizen.
Imagine how corruption level is at maximum with regards to incessant looting of treasure to the tune of billion dollars, inability of 3 tiers to pay salaries and emolument resulting to unbearable economic hardship, anti-party activities by supporting opposition party against his party, ondo and anambra states as examples.
My advice to Gej is to back out after 1st term to pave way for charistmatic and pragmatic leader to drive us forward
Re: Obasanjo's Letter Is An Attempt To Instigate A Coup - Afenifere by nduchucks: 3:13pm On Dec 31, 2013
anonimi:

Which APC are u talking about
The one that is filled with PDP's reject and calls OBJoke its "navigator" shocked
Do u have something else better to propose?

At this point, most Nigerians will welcome any form of regime change. The looting and abuse could not be worse.
Re: Obasanjo's Letter Is An Attempt To Instigate A Coup - Afenifere by WarHorse1(m): 3:18pm On Dec 31, 2013
fkaz: Either by coup or national conference, Nigeria need to be re-structured or dis-integrated and any of the above will surely foster it. Nigeria av reach it peak, no need to pretend about our unity, we are not meant to be together. So obj should come up with anything, he is welcome.

Those that ask for a break-up of Nigeria should please keep an eye on South Sudan. It would be a situation where the hunted catches the hunter

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Re: Obasanjo's Letter Is An Attempt To Instigate A Coup - Afenifere by AreaFada2: 3:22pm On Dec 31, 2013
In a certain part of Nigeria being very loud and boastful is regarded as smartness.

After decades of military brutality, being gentle is seen as being clueless.

That's why they regard a brute like OBJ as a good leader and GEJ that obeys court judgements as clueless.

We have a long way to go.

If we're not ready for democratic evolution, let's just admit and let semi-literate military brutes take turns to rule.

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Re: Obasanjo's Letter Is An Attempt To Instigate A Coup - Afenifere by AreaFada2: 3:26pm On Dec 31, 2013
War Horse:

Those that ask for a break-up of Nigeria should please keep an eye on South Sudan. It would be a situation where the hunted catches the hunter
.

Well, without bloodshed Nigeria will go no where. We have already wasted 53 years. Let there be war and lose 25 years, then at least the remnant can go separate ways, there will be less tribalism even if some of the resulting smaller states will have problems in first ten years.

Enough of this cowardice that feeds the status quo.

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Re: Obasanjo's Letter Is An Attempt To Instigate A Coup - Afenifere by meforyou1(m): 3:28pm On Dec 31, 2013
The coup mongers should remember what's going on in south sudan. It will even be child's play compaired to what will happen here. And Biafra shall be established for sure.
Jonathan will rule this country till 2019. Nothing dey happen.
As for that very old baffoon obasanjo, iyabo has said it all. It's either his way or the highway. Ugly old sadist.

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Re: Obasanjo's Letter Is An Attempt To Instigate A Coup - Afenifere by OmoTier1(m): 3:28pm On Dec 31, 2013
cap28:

I hear what you are saying but a grass roots movement is the only hope for the Nigerian masses anything short of that will be a continuation of what you are seeing today.

It needs to be well organised just like the one that swept Chavez and Castro into power. The masses need to be made aware of the fact that anything short of a grassroots movement means that they and generations unborn will be condemned to a life of endless poverty and suffering. The reality is that as long as the likes of obj, gej and other criminals continue to feature at the helm of Nigerian affairs there is no hope for over 80% of Nigeria's population.

The current labour movements in Nigeria are infiltrated by govt agents and that's why they have not been effective, remember how quickly PENGASSAN called off their strike when GEJ hiked petrol prices following instructions from the IMF?

Expecting GEJ who was appointd by Obj (following authorisation from the US/Britain) to offer anything positive to the people of Nigeria is like expecting a drug addict to keep off the crack pipe. Why would any sane person expect someone who had already looted his state govt coffers to become a changed man upon assuming the office of president?. Do you think these our leaders are chosen on the basis of their impeccable track record or what? HOw many Nigerian heads of state do you know of that been able to provide the most basic amenities for the Nigerian people?

By the way GEJ is where he is today because of OBJ, Europe and America therefore his allegiance is to obj, Europe and America not the Nigerian people so why would you have such high expectations of him in the first place?

Tuned Bakare have said it all. GEJ is destined to loot Nigeria and bankrupt it, but God's grace has departed His abode and now the wind is blowing but He cannot detect the direction it is coming from.

The truth is no amount of grass root movement will solve a thing unless you have people who have resolved in their hearts that come what may they are going to develop Nigeria regardless of whose head is crushed. We still people like that in Nigeria, but very few.

I concur with you about the Labour movement, they are one rogue mole in the system. Innately corrupt to the bone and lack any sense of shame. I will never forget the fuel subsidy protest, how they betrayed Nigeria for a bowl of banga soup and catfish in Aso rock

As for GEJ, he is a failed lecturer, failed politician, therefore He has no business governing the centre. Have you ever wonder why no student of His has proudly come forward to say they were once lectured by GEJ? You know what may follow that student for life.... lipsrsealed

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Re: Obasanjo's Letter Is An Attempt To Instigate A Coup - Afenifere by anonimi: 3:30pm On Dec 31, 2013
ndu_chucks:
At this point, most Nigerians will welcome any form of regime change. The looting and abuse could not be worse.

Fortunately, you do not represent "most Nigerians".
Smart people don't simply seek change for the sake of change. Maybe u assume "most" of our fellow compatriots are clueless. Thankfully that is not the case.

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Re: Obasanjo's Letter Is An Attempt To Instigate A Coup - Afenifere by cap28: 3:30pm On Dec 31, 2013
Real-Mccoy:

Annulment was payment for Abiola’s evil deeds – Sen Owie


on June 12, 2013 / in Politics, Top Stories 12:18 am / Comments

By Emmanuel Aziken, Political Editor

Former member of the House of Representatives, former Senate Chief Whip and chieftain of the Peoples Democratic Party, PDP, Rowland Stephen Owie says the annulment of the June 12, 1993 presidential election was a divine recompense for Abiola’s alleged past political misdeeds.

What is your perspective on the June 12, 1993 election?
When people talk about June 12, June 12; June 12 has no meaning. June 12 is the repayment of evil for MKO Abiola. Whatever you sow, you reap. I said about four years ago that if Abiola had been president he would have been dead.

You think so?
Yes, let me tell you. Before anyone can say that the annulment was evil they should answer four questions. Number one, who was that politician that brought what was called the Maroko land deal to limelight? Who was that politician who used the Maroko land deal as an albatross on the neck of Chief Obafemi Awolowo? Who is that Nigerian or group of Nigerians who went to Obasanjo and connived with him and removed the Electoral College act from the decree of 1978?

Who is that politician or group of politicians that aided the military to take over the government of President Shehu Shagari in 1983 after the NPN convention? Who is that politician? Who is that politician that aided the military in disqualifying all the major candidates of SDP and NRC?

I say if they can answer it and the answer is negative for MKO Abiola, then the annulment of June 12 is evil. But if the answer is yes and it’s MKO Abiola, the annulment of June 12 was the best thing that happened because you can’t plant mango and reap yam.

In 1979 I was in the UPN as a member of the House of Representatives and there was a provision in the transition decree of 1978/79 which made provision for Electoral College if the presidential election became inconclusive, and it really was inconclusive, because Shagari did not get two-third of the 19 states. So, we were preparing for Electoral College. NPP, GNPP, PRP and UPN we had majority in the National Assembly which constituted the Electoral College.

The late Mallam Aminu Kano of PRP, Alhaji Waziri Ibrahim of GNPP, Nnamdi Azikiwe of NPP and Awolowo of UPN had met and we had all met. But three days to the Electoral College Obasanjo removed the clause on Electoral College; he removed the goal post within the run of play.
Sen. Owie

Sen. Owie

The Electoral College was removed after the election when we were getting ready for it and that was why Awolowo had no other option and he had to go to court and the judgment gave rise to the issue of 12 2/3! A human being cannot be half, he is either full or… and that is why Justice Sowemimo said that that judgment cannot be quoted in future.

Abiola and Obasanjo were involved as Egbas to remove that clause. Concord brought the headline “Maroko land: Awolowo where is your sincerity”. We were in Minna when it was published. Look it deflated the old man, it scattered him, in fact, he was no longer himself and he started battling how to explain.

Now NPN went for their national convention in Kano and Umaru Dikko, he is alive, he said the presidential candidate of the NPN is not for sale. MKO Abiola wanted the presidential ticket he didn’t get it and he then came and aligned with the military people who now came in.

And IBB came and set up two political parties, Shehu Yar‘adua, Adamu Ciroma and other major contenders in SDP and NRC, overnight the military disqualified all of them, aided and abetted by MKO Abiola. Because if Yar‘adua were (involved) there was no way MKO would have won. He was not even in contention until the disqualification of these major contenders. That is why I said that June 12 was a repayment for evil that was done against other people.

But how do you see the June 12 election in terms of electoral conduct and fairness?

The June 12 election because it was an open ballot and had only two parties which cut across tribal lines was one of the fairest elections ever held in this country. June 12 showed what a good government can do in an election. If IBB and Aikhomu wanted to tamper with the election, they could have tampered with the election, but they didn’t. It was a free and fair election but what I am telling you is that the annulment that came later was the hand of Esau and the voice of Jacob.

What do you mean?
What happened was a repayment for evil.

But was that justified on the nation?
Yes! What I am saying is that it was God’s own work, it was God’s own work.

For Abiola’s alleged sin of…
All the sins!

But did that justify the derailment of the collective hope of Nigerians?
What is the collective hope of Nigerians?

Democracy
Was the Buhari coup against Shagari justified? Was that the collective will of Nigerians?

That is debatable because many Nigerians welcomed the coup just as majority of Nigerians were against the annulment of June 12.

It is because you are a pressman. Do you know how many people in my village that were not interested and were happy with the annulment, even though some of us were not happy.

You, were you happy with the annulment?
The annulment served Abiola right, quote me! You cannot be destroying other people and expect to have victory. There is a parable that all those who destroy other people will end up having destruction at the hour of their victory. MKO should not have expected anything less. Tell me, was it justified for Shehu Musa Yar‘adua and Falae in the SDP to be disqualified? What did they do? Was it justified for Adamu Ciroma and co in the NRC to be disqualified? What did they do? They were all disqualified in both parties so that MKO Abiola who was a friend of the military could emerge as the strongest candidate.

It was no secret that he paraded himself as a friend of the military. That man could not have expected to become president of Nigeria when he had ruined many people. The truth is that God does not come down to do some of these things Himself. He uses human beings as instruments and that is why when a man is looking for elective or appointive position, maybe as LGA chairman, governor, minister or president, he is looking for an aspect of the divinity of God. It is out of that divinity that the man in charge of affairs takes, compassion, service to the people, ability to manage everybody, forgiveness.

Unfortunately, the moment you get that position and you do not utilise it, not generally, just some part of it…if you watch when Christ cured the ten lepers only one came back to say thank you, but he said where are the other nine? And if you read Hipppolytus he said that as soon as Christ asked where are the nine that the leprosy returned to the nine and they died of leprosy.
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MKO Abiola was a coup financier and a criminal that is not in dispute but the above story only highlights the dirty tricks that the average Nigerian politician will resort to in order to get into the corridors of power.

The senator who narrated this story is no better than the MKO who he castigates (and I was never a fan of MKO) but I am sure that had MKO been alive and in the corridors of power this same senator would have been one of his biggest fans. The fact that he actually attributes the June 12 annulment to God's intervention is ludicrous. MKO Abiola fell out with IBB and IBB being a vindictive person decided to punish him by annulling June 12 its that simple, it had nothing to do with God. God would have no business intervening amongst this pack of satanic demons. In other words it was based on a disagreement between two criminals. There is no doubt that MKO was a terrible human being but which of them was a decent person? How many of them are fighting to remain in the corridors of power because they wish to serve the Nigerian people? if Nigeria did not receive a guaranteed income from crude oil revenue would any of them be tussling for power?

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Re: Obasanjo's Letter Is An Attempt To Instigate A Coup - Afenifere by OmoTier1(m): 3:32pm On Dec 31, 2013
Area-Fada:
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Well, without bloodshed Nigeria will go no where. We have already wasted 53 years. Let there war and lose 25 years, then at least the remnant can go separate ways, there will be less tribalism even if some of the resulting smaller states will have problems in first ten years.

Enough of this cowardice that feeds the status quo.
There will be no blood shed! You human demons will be disappointed when a peace change of government will happen at the centre and you will begin to enjoy the true democratic dividends some states are beginning to enjoy now cool. Go and tell your Asari to prepare His mat, for His is going back to jail soonest!

You keep screaming war, it is obvious you are a kid that knows next to nothing of what war is like. Maybe you need to visit former Yugoslavia or current Kosovo and your small brain will adjust very quickly.

All that is required in Nigeria now is competent leadership that can use Her enormous wealth to develop the country. Not the glutton of a Lame duck President that is stealing left, right and centre.
Re: Obasanjo's Letter Is An Attempt To Instigate A Coup - Afenifere by OmoTier1(m): 3:33pm On Dec 31, 2013
anonimi:

Fortunately, you do not represent "most Nigerians".
Smart people don't simply seek change for the sake of change. Maybe u assume "most" of our fellow compatriots are clueless. Thankfully that is not the case.
Is it you inglorious praise singer, aka the devils choir that now represent most Nigerians? shocked
Re: Obasanjo's Letter Is An Attempt To Instigate A Coup - Afenifere by SUBMARINE: 3:36pm On Dec 31, 2013
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Re: Obasanjo's Letter Is An Attempt To Instigate A Coup - Afenifere by SUBMARINE: 3:40pm On Dec 31, 2013
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Re: Obasanjo's Letter Is An Attempt To Instigate A Coup - Afenifere by Arrantis: 3:41pm On Dec 31, 2013
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Mumu continue fooling yourself.BTW I hope d SSS members online are looking @ ur moniker and IP address for necessary action.

You thinkl you are still in 1967.GEJ will rule till 2019,haters can go ahead and commit suicide. Ur on point
Re: Obasanjo's Letter Is An Attempt To Instigate A Coup - Afenifere by profibadan: 3:48pm On Dec 31, 2013
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Re: Obasanjo's Letter Is An Attempt To Instigate A Coup - Afenifere by cap28: 3:51pm On Dec 31, 2013
Omo_Tier1:

Tuned Bakare have said it all. GEJ is destined to loot Nigeria and bankrupt it, but God's grace has departed His abode and now the wind is blowing but He cannot detect the direction it is coming from.

The truth is no amount of grass root movement will solve a thing unless you have people who have resolved in their hearts that come what may they are going to develop Nigeria regardless of whose head is crushed. We still people like that in Nigeria, but very few.

I concur with you about the Labour movement, they are one rogue mole in the system. Innately corrupt to the bone and lack any sense of shame. I will never forget the fuel subsidy protest, how they betrayed Nigeria for a bowl of banga soup and catfish in Aso rock

As for GEJ, he is a failed lecturer, failed politician, therefore He has no business governing the centre. Have you ever wonder why no student of His has proudly come forward to say they were once lectured by GEJ? You know what may follow that student for life.... lipsrsealed

so whats the solution? to continue with a new set of criminals? - I don't care what they call themselves, APC, PDP they all have the same objective - to loot.

If this kleptocratic system is not derailed generations unborn will curse us.

Also tribalism is used by them to divide and conquer the 80% who are living in abject poverty. Have you noticed that all Nigerian elites irrespective of ethnic group tend to unite under one banner of theft and corruption when the need for such a stance arises, its only when things are not going the way they want it to that they play the ethnic card and time and time again the gullible, naïve and politically ignorant 80% fall for the trick. Nigerian masses need to understand that you are nothing more than cannon fodder to the Nigerian ruling class. They use the ethnic card as a diversionary tactic in order to keep the focus off their corrupt practices while they devise new ways to cheat you out of your birthright.

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Re: Obasanjo's Letter Is An Attempt To Instigate A Coup - Afenifere by ChikezieU(m): 3:52pm On Dec 31, 2013
Kairoseki77:

So even though you have seen the horrors of war, you want to repeat them again?

If we do not learn from the lessons of the past, we will be doomed to repeat them. I am afraid that if Nigeria tries to disintegrate, the only thing our Grandchildren will have is an economically impoverished wasteland, overpopulated regions (our population is going to be 400 million in 2050), and rampant disease.
oga i wish you are just i front of me talking not to fight for fairness/freedom then i will start by punching the hell out of your face, most comments in here burns my anger to rage, no FREEDOM without WAR. Some people who devasteted this country will be critisizing another mans failure (as they claim) to salvage the menace caused by the same people that critisized him and again staging a coup to overthrow democracy with their main aim to oppress the minority (as they think) unless you are not affected by their evil deed, you should fight and this time not to death but to victry
Re: Obasanjo's Letter Is An Attempt To Instigate A Coup - Afenifere by debsite: 3:53pm On Dec 31, 2013
Good talk from Afenifere, some nigerians think that all yorubas were blindfolded and gullible not to know the truth about nigeria.
Am a yoruba and I will always say it that, Obasanjo is one of the enemies of this country, a wolf always pretending to be a sheep as depicted by his past actions.
Also, Tinubu's APC is not representing the interest of yorubas but his selfish and dubious ambition.
However, I imagine why some nigerians are here on nairaland ranting as if coup or APC ( another sets of greedy and self centered politicians ready to attain power by all means) is the solution to the nigeria problems. All we need to do is to change our mindset and be positive and optimistic because these people works on the principle of divide and rule either through religion or ethnicity. Coup will only leads to second civil war, we're not in 1967 and not in egypt too.These people we're talking abouts are all thieves from GEJ,OBJ,Tinubu to Babangida and co. So wake up!

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Re: Obasanjo's Letter Is An Attempt To Instigate A Coup - Afenifere by teskyg: 3:55pm On Dec 31, 2013
Please ask yourself where all their family Members are based?They have accumulated billions of Dollars required to keep them holed up in any city of the world while you kill yourselves and they will show up after the war to continue to dominate you .Every wise person should know that the Elites are fighting GEJ to satisfy their selfish desire.Come to think of it,A military coup may make me a Military administrator of Lagos state.waoh,Toll gate,Oriental,Internal Revenue.lol.Let's face our common enemies brothers,OBJ and his friends,not GEJ.

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Re: Obasanjo's Letter Is An Attempt To Instigate A Coup - Afenifere by ChikezieU(m): 3:59pm On Dec 31, 2013
Kairoseki77:

A brave man fights for something worth dying for.

Is disintegrating Nigeria a cause worth dying for? No!

Disintegrating Nigeria isn't even worth talking about. To begin with, there is no benefit to a disintegrated Nigeria.

Anyway, there isn't anyone who has lived through a real war that thinks it's fun and games. War is human beings murdering each other, and committing atrocities in the name of survival, hate, fear, and greed. There is nothing pleasurable or honorable about it.

A kid like you should go to a war museum. Maybe the Holocaust museum, or the Rwandan genocide museum, or something. Maybe watch some Youtube videos of mass graves and of people dying in split seconds. Go look at videos of towns being burned down and women being molested.

Anyone who resorts to war when an issue can be resolved another way is not only a coward, they are evil.
another way like coup?
Re: Obasanjo's Letter Is An Attempt To Instigate A Coup - Afenifere by SUBMARINE: 4:02pm On Dec 31, 2013
@YORUBAS are you guys scared to vote in support or against a coup. If not kindly do so by scrolling up to click like for coup or like for no coup
Re: Obasanjo's Letter Is An Attempt To Instigate A Coup - Afenifere by Gbawes: 4:05pm On Dec 31, 2013
Who is this troll Omo_Tier1?
Re: Obasanjo's Letter Is An Attempt To Instigate A Coup - Afenifere by mike404(m): 4:07pm On Dec 31, 2013
SUBMARINE: @YORUBAS are you guys scared to vote in support or against a coup. If not kindly do so by scrolling up to click like for coup or like for no coup

HERE'S ANOTHER SAD NEWS BRO sad

https://www.nairaland.com/1575466/lasu-ASUU-threatens-strike
Re: Obasanjo's Letter Is An Attempt To Instigate A Coup - Afenifere by ChikezieU(m): 4:08pm On Dec 31, 2013
tosan200:
It's just pathetic, we are not making any effort to move forward yet some still pray for war. I guess they are just naive . In war times nobody is safe , women will raped ,inflation will be at the highest and after fighting the meaningless war ,Nigeria as a country will have nothing but sad stories. I pray we never experience any war in this country.
Tell that to our leaders
Re: Obasanjo's Letter Is An Attempt To Instigate A Coup - Afenifere by mike404(m): 4:09pm On Dec 31, 2013
Re: Obasanjo's Letter Is An Attempt To Instigate A Coup - Afenifere by kmariko: 4:14pm On Dec 31, 2013
Abagworo: Nigeria needs a change of regime. That's the only thing that will save many politicians from being slaughtered in 2015. Obasanjo will however survive as usual because he has exonerated himself by writing the letter.

The only other solution is for Jonathan and other politicians to perform miraculously well in the next one and half years left so that they can win a free and fair election. Rigging won't work in 2015.

It is either you are for democracy or not. You cannot force a "change" on people. It is the people that determines the "change" they want. Your writing reeks of one who likes to force change on people whether they like it or not. Not liking to "change the regime" is a change in itself.
Re: Obasanjo's Letter Is An Attempt To Instigate A Coup - Afenifere by SUBMARINE: 4:14pm On Dec 31, 2013
@YORUBAS pls stop being scared to scroll up and vote for or against a coup.
Re: Obasanjo's Letter Is An Attempt To Instigate A Coup - Afenifere by nationwide1(m): 4:23pm On Dec 31, 2013
Omo_Tier1:
Is GEJ the first minority to govern Nigeria? When will you people stop spewing this rubbish? The obvious truth is GEJ is eternally incompetent and He lacks what Nigeria requires to move forward.

A man who cannot keep His house in order, how then can you make such a man the senior man of the community
Get it right, I'm not from the minority but I'm just being sincere. GEJ as any human has his weak points but he has done well even better than many Nigeria's past leaders in some areas. My only querry is why do his haters never mention and praise his strong areas?

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