moca:

So u of all people use nairaland as a yardstick?
Common!
I knew quite a lot of them and they don't find it easy at all. Societal cum family stigmatization and vulnerability. Name them.

I have. One that just lost her job now.
Had to lobby for a friend to take her as a temporary assistant(an offer he had already given to somebody else)
I guess she needs it more cos of her baby.

It's u guys. Instead of u to wear protection,u will deceive the gal for skin to skin. After,u will dump her.

Moca please help me tell them - maybe they'll listen to an experienced woman like yourself.

Even if there is no shame or stigma associated with single-motherhood, the reality remains that;

1. It won't change their circumstances - as I've stated, they are more likely to live in poverty.
2. The outcomes for the children will still be on the whole poorer than for kids in two parent - and hence likely more prosperous - homes
3. Most importantly the missing input from fathers will exacerbate things - meaning more criminality in boys and promiscuity in girls.
4. Men will still prefer women who are not single mothers.

I'm also sure they'll take heed if you advise no push-ups before marriage !

How family, hope well. I would have asked after your condition, but some may discern an ulterior motive

Ekú weekend


TV

pickabeau1:
who has seen the new mad max


just got the three original films to get the whole idea

can you believe how young mel gibson was
im halfway thru the first film

Read that Charlize Theron is the real star of this film - Max is portrayed as the sidekick - i.e. the film has been given a mythical female superhero.

TV

TV01:

Read that Charlize Theron is the real star of this film - Max is portrayed as the sidekick - i.e. the film has been given a mythical female superhero.

TV

Interesting.. have u seen the original 3 films
Im halfway through part 1

moca:


It's u guys. Instead of u to wear protection, u will deceive the gal for skin to skin. After,u will dump her

How can we deceive all these girls that are wiser than our grandmothers?

TV01:

Read that Charlize Theron is the real star of this film - Max is portrayed as the sidekick - i.e. the film has been given a mythical female superhero.

TV

Read a review along those lines also, which begs the question, why not give the movie a different title? Feminism and historical revisionism go hand-in-hand.

Cc: Pickabeau1

Timbuktou:

Read a review along those lines also, which begs the question, why not give the movie a different title? Feminism and historical revisionism go hand-in-hand.

Cc: Pickabeau1

Well I guess I have to see the new film

Will watch part 2 tonight

Kimoni:
I am happy you owned up to the stigmatization, you did exactly what I was thought you would - defend ur stand as against denial, so I quite appreciate you for that.

Deny? It was in situ before I came along and will be extant long after I'm gone. And as I explained in an earlier post to moca, even if we remove any notion of shame or stigma - even if we valorize it - it will not change their circumstance or situations.

Neither will it change mens "preferences" in the first instance - although it is possible some men could be "socialised" to express a preference for SM's.

Kimoni:
I jumped to the highest heaven when I read your opening statement - TV is all for equality without denying the differences. ..yayyyyyyy The promise land is not far away after all. Henceforth, you only need to back this statement up in subsequent post.

I have never in my time on NL, said or championed anything different. Now contrast this with the "what is good for the goose is good for the gander" brigade, who predicate every discussion on "equality", which they don't actually appear to understand or rightly apply.

Kimoni:
On single motherhood, you need to realize that majority did not set out to be single mothers. Infact, the more experienced you are in the game, the less likely you'll become a single mother. I read recently Wizkid babymama saying she became a single mother at 19, her very first sexual experience, she didn't even realize she was pregnant until after 5 months. Now compare her to a 25 year old lady who has carried out 10 abortions, and she got pregnant each time her contraceptives fail. Which would you go for if you were to choose? Some things in life are not really what they seem like.

Single-motherhood does not ambush anyone, neither is it an airborne or otherwise infectious disease . It happens as a result of choices, decision and actions. These can be moderated, and properly done so, it should be an unfortunate exception, not the fast trending norm we now see. Most things in life are exactly what they seem

In all likelihood, neither of your two candidates would meet threshold requirements. Even if they were the last two women on earth, I still have a third option. I demonstrate value and live my worth !

Kimoni:
I still don't agree that single motherhood makes you desperate or decrease your eligibility, I honestly don't see any difference between them and any spinster out there. It's your character that matters at the end of the day. I have seen guys running after single moms like kilode.
Single motherhood does not decrease, neither does it increase your eligibility. It will only affect a woman when she has been brainwashed by people like TV or she allows herself to wallow in self pity. Your future is in your hands!

Per desperation, I have said nothing. many unmarried women - and men - are desperate. That is to do with their own internal dynamic and personal circumstances.

As for eligibility, there is a reality on ground - take a straw poll of posters on this thread if you please. If SM-H has no bearing, why do you see guys running after them like kilode? If it makes no difference, shouldn't that be same for all girls? Plus you presume that they are chasing them for marriage?

Kimoni:
I honestly don't know if I preach equality, feminist kind of equality I mean, maybe co-incidentally. I don't practise equality in my home and I see no reason to. If I can eat my cake and have it, why shouldn't I? My husband is the head of the home and we both have our respective roles and responsibilities. This is a pre-requisite for any gathering of humans, innit? But headship comes with lots and lots of responsibilities which I am never shy of pushing to him. Why shall I shy

~ I don't pay any type of bills
~ I don't pay school fees, the kids don't bear my fathers name, right?
~ I don't even know how much the house rent is and I don't care to know
~ when my car breaks down anywhere, anytime, all I do is call him, tell him my location, pick a cab home, the rest is history
~ when taking a walk together, he walks on the outer side of the road
~ when robbers come (we've had two experiences of this), his headship comes into full play. I go to my children's room, lock the door and we all start praying for daddy from there. At that point, his responsibilities will be to ensure all doors are well locked, all lights off, and necessary calls etc
~ when we go out together, I don't pay. Why the heck should I pay when the head is there??
~ Peradventure he tells me he is broke, I open the Bible and read my favourite part to him - "a man who cannot provide for his home is worse than an infidel". Trust me, this verse works like magic.

Why should I give up all these benefits and so much more? naaaaaa. I'll continue calling him the head and he'll continue providing all these. No modernization in my family. He likes the title and I like the benefits. Like you rightly said, we appreciate our differences.

Sounds pretty much like my set-up. And isn't too dissimilar to most. Men working hard to priest, provide and protect their families. One reason why the feminsit type equality doesn't wash is the dynamic between male and female;

Your DH and my wifes DH , have to pull out the stops to deliver. No excuses. It's hard, but they see it as their role and responsibility. If they fall short they know it and carry that burden - even if no one says a thing. If they deliver they are proud and satisfied - duty done.

If the roles are reversed, the woman feels resentment at having to carry the man. As women typically need to look up to their men - consider them high (absolutely) or higher (relatively) status - respect and attraction is prone to fail. As much as we like to shout "equality", no woman wants a man she has to carry.

There is "customary discrimination" along the whole continuum of male/female relationships. Even in it's crudest form, it's for the common good, for societal flourishing. Feminisms attempt to equalise things at every point is doomed to failure as I pointed out above. And in any event, feminism is now more about privilege without consequence or attendant responsibility for women - and at the expense of men.

I'll tell you this for free - at any point in history and in any place over time, I'd much [refer to have been an averagely attractive and accomplished female than a poor man. For a man there is zero - and less than zero - privilege in poverty.

Kimoni:
In every other facet of life, should I say I have been lucky not to have encountered gender discrimination? Maybe yes or maybe I just won't allow it.

What I see more is women naturally taking the backseat when there is really no need to. Could be due to long years of brainwashing and cultural impediments.

I grew up believing that what a man can do, a woman can do better. That quote used to be very popular back in the days and it was my favourite quote growing up. So on a personal level, I have never believed or made to believe I am in anyway inferior to a man. I don't have that mentality and maybe this is where some of my beliefs will align with feminist's(not the extremist like free the nipples o). And this is why I mostly have no issues when their education bothers on women empowerment. And if they wish to extend it to their respective homes, lucky husbands they got. I pass on that level. What I really don't get is why you guys are vehemently against it? I would think they are doing you a favor wanting to share some of your responsibilities. But like I said earlier, I don't know too much about feminism as to understand a lot of intricate issues.

Where feminism is about equal opportunities and access for women fine, but it's long past that and is quite frankly descending into absurdity.

Kimoni:
On my research papers, hehhehehehe if NL will permit, a distinction won't be a bad idea.

Please post results !


TV

pickabeau1:


Interesting.. have u seen the original 3 films
Im halfway through part 1

Is it in two parts? Na Nollywood production . Abajo!
Abeg, review it here - book/film reviews were always part of our mandate here.


TV

TV01:

Is it in two parts? Na Nollywood production . Abajo!
Abeg, review it here - book/film reviews were always part of our mandate here.


TV

Just finished part 1
Max is a highway cop in the world of the future where biker gangs run riot
They kill his partner
He loses interest in the job and proceeds on a vacation with his wife and child

On a stop along the vacation to get spare tires, she drives ahead to get icecream for her child, the wife runs into the biker gang who want to r@pe her
She hits the gang leader in the groin and runs off to get max

the gang track them to her aunts place and she is forced to run off with her aunt and child
the car stops along the way and she makes off on foot

She is sadly run over and the child dies with her on ICU

Max gets Mad ("Mad max" and goes on a revenge spree driving them off the road

About to start part 2

moca:

Coogar stop recommending those drugs to ur galfriend jor!
They have side effects.
Either zip up or use raincoat

raincoats have side effects too. many of the chics are allergic to rubber.

pickabeau1:
who has seen the new mad max
just got the three original films to get the whole idea
can you believe how young mel gibson was
im halfway thru the first film

i was in my primary school when i saw the original version. mel gibson versus nightrider. good old memories......

coogar:


raincoats have side effects too. many of the chics are allergic to rubber.



i was in my primary school when i saw the original version. mel gibson versus nightrider. good old memories......

Coogar,repent!
Reeeepeeent!!!
Raincoat don't have effect.
Infact,zip up!

See baa, it takes willpower to say no to an already Erm before u especially if u have a thing for the guy.
Pls u guys should help the ladies too.

How many have u fathered and denied?
Say the truth o abi withdrawal dey work for u?

Timbuktou:


How can we deceive all these girls that are wiser than our grandmothers?

P

TV01:

Moca please help me tell them - maybe they'll listen to an experienced woman like yourself.

Even if there is no shame or stigma associated with single-motherhood, the reality remains that;

1. It won't change their circumstances - as I've stated, they are more likely to live in poverty.
2. The outcomes for the children will still be on the whole poorer than for kids in two parent - and hence likely more prosperous - homes
3. Most importantly the missing input from fathers will exacerbate things - meaning more criminality in boys and promiscuity in girls.
4. Men will still prefer women who are not single mothers.

I'm also sure they'll take heed if you advise no push-ups before marriage !

How family, hope well. I would have asked after your condition, but some may discern an ulterior motive

Ekú weekend


TV

Ask away!
No shaking

But I know u just asked.
I'm ok. Just suffering the normal thing one in my condition pass tru.
Hope u all are fine?

The reason why I always beg ladies to be careful. It's very few single mothers that r lucky. Most r bitter. The truth is,its never easy even with ur money. One family had to send their daughter to convent. I don't know what happened to the baby but I know the dad was trying to protect the daughter from societal stigmatization.it was very close family friend that knew the gal was preggie.

Naija no be obodo oyibo. Some of the hatred r transfered to the children so they may term all men bad cos their dad didn't marry their mum.
Then again,its the trend now,almost all our stars have babymamas.

Gals pls if not for ur future,at least bc of the innocent child that will suffer in the future,try and resist an errect rod infront of u without raincoat. Just once and goal can be scored.

apolonius:


Sweetheart,how are you?A session is assured tonight.

Royalroy,tales by moonlight between me and my darling never ends!

Bro Tveeeeee happy Sunday o! Hope you are all doing good.

This single mother thing, Ive seen both sides

Ive seen women who "enjoy" their status. Especially the ones who took their partners to the cleaners and are getting heaps of child support and the family home.
They go out and have sex when they feel like, (usually with other womens husbands) and generally just do what they want, when they want. . . usually the owambe "yellow pawpaw" ladies at parties every week.

There are also some who are milking the system for all its worth. I personally know of one. A man in her life will put a stop to her benefits so she is "happy" to pop kids but with no resident man.

These women think they are enjoying now, but it is later on that they will realise how stupid they are.

Of course there are others living in poverty, stigmatised, lonely, unhappy and crave to be in a happy and fulfilled relationship.
One of the many things that marriage offers is companionship. A widow/widower will tell you how much they miss this.

moca:

Coogar,repent!
Reeeepeeent!!!
Raincoat don't have effect.
Infact,zip up!

See baa, it takes willpower to say no to an already Erm before u especially if u have a thing for the guy.
Pls u guys should help the ladies too.

How many have u fathered and denied?
Say the truth o abi withdrawal dey work for u?

withdrawal toh badt!

coogar:


raincoats have side effects too. many of the chics are allergic to rubber.



i was in my primary school when i saw the original version. mel gibson versus nightrider. good old memories......

The night rider was mad too
Such a psycho

I can imagine how many joy riders n bikers were inspired by this film

Did u hear of d Waco disaster

pickabeau1:

The night rider was mad too
Such a psycho

I can imagine how many joy riders n bikers were inspired by this film

i still remember the scene when max's wife went to get ice cream & nightrider intercepted her and licked from the cone. she kicked him in the groin & ran into the car. then the bikers started squealing like rhesus monkies - i knew it was over for the babe right there.

Did u hear of d Waco disaster

david koresh?

coogar:


i still remember the scene when max's wife went to get ice cream & nightrider intercepted her and licked from the cone. she kicked him in the groin & ran into the car. then the bikers started squealing like rhesus monkies - i knew it was over for the babe right there.



david koresh?

Yes...you know it was over for her

Did you know they assaulted the couple sexually in the beginning that ran off

See how they destroyed their car


Nope..a biker gang shootout

pickabeau1:


Yes...you know it was over for her

Did you know they assaulted the couple sexually in the beginning that ran off

See how they destroyed their car


Nope..a biker gang shootout

never heard of it....
the only waco story i know was the david koresh guy that had one strange church in his yard & defied the law.

they had to send a SWAT team to his place. himself & his church members opened fire on the SWAT team & america did what they know how to do best. they killed women & children in that church.

you should watch the documentary - it was shocking!

naijababe:


Do men really know this? Here I am thinking they don't, I hope Mr naijababe does not know that I press his buttons

Sure, we know when you are pressing the buttons. It is always overlooked because of your application of wisdom.

But if it is confrontational, the MAN in the Man will roar..

@Moca,

Long time, how you dey and family?

I hope the condition is good news after nine months?

coogar:


never heard of it....
the only waco story i know was the david koresh guy that had one strange church in his yard & defied the law.

they had to send a SWAT team to his place. himself & his church members opened fire on the SWAT team & america did what they know how to do best. they killed women & children in that church.

you should watch the documentary - it was shocking!

This was just three weeks ago

I know of koresh...mad man

Will look for the documentary

pickabeau1:


This was just three weeks ago

I know of koresh...mad man

Will look for the documentary

i will check it out.
there have been so much shootings in america lately i have lost track. it's a 3rd world country.

coogar:


i will check it out.
there have been so much shootings in america lately i have lost track. it's a 3rd world country.

The bikers gang shooting spree was crazy and it was during daylight not night.
Think about 9 guys died from it. The good news in it is that only the gang members died no innocent soul was lost despite it was close to shopping centre.

Like the NRA do say, guns don't kill people, only people kill people...

bellong:


Sure, we know when you are pressing the buttons. It is always overlooked because of your application of wisdom.

But if it is confrontational, the MAN in the Man will roar..

@Moca,

Long time, how you dey and family?

I hope the condition is good news after nine months?

We will know after nine months na
So start counting
Baad guy!

coogar:


withdrawal toh badt!

Eew,God,why did u give me this type of bro
I will take his case to tbjoshua.
Surely,only me can't do this alone

coogar:


i will check it out.
there have been so much shootings in america lately i have lost track. it's a 3rd world country.

Lol

moca:

Eew,God,why did u give me this type of bro
I will take his case to tbjoshua.
Surely,only me can't do this alone

withdrawal is as effective as raincoat!

coogaluta:

Her royal excellency,Dame Aluta C,where are you?

apolonius:


Her royal excellency,Dame Aluta C,where are you?

Right here, my Lord!

coogaluta:


Right here, my Lord!

And here she is to the shame of R-Roy!

It's been ages dear.How is thy planet?

You need to check everything about your babe o even before you met her

See...