safarigirl:
it's a shallow way to think. Forget moralism, such thoughts are elementary and no right thinking person would ever take him seriously

joseph1013:


He's a moralist, who equates outward appearances with what goes on in the heart. I'm sure he'd have been incensed when he first saw Tattoos on Messi's hands. If Messi's performance drops, it wont be difficult for him to link it with the 'demonic' ink on his body. That's the way moralists are.

Napoleon55:


Ok.

Napoleon55:


Messi is an adult now and have arrived,17 years old Messi then would not have those tattoos.
Yes all the U-17 championship we have won are won by the players with decent hair cuts,
If the officials thought that is senseless why would them instruct them to have good hair cuts.
Not everything that u must know and understand.
As a teenager u r not be allowed to do whatever that pleases u.
I did not meant it to cause an arguments.
I was merely pointing out some off pitch advantage that our boys have over others n I believe will help them win this trophy.
End of argument,if u want to pick it up again fine.

safarigirl:
keep some opinions to yourself lest people think you demented.

I wasn't even arguing with you, it's hard to counter ridiculous rubbish.


When Mexico won the U17 in 2011, I bet they all had military haircuts too.....gosh! Nothing vexes me more than stewpidity.

TheGoodJoe:



[b]I have tried to stay out of this argument but Napoleon55 is not wrong. It depends on who is in charge and how he views things. These guys are minors, it is hard for a coach growing up in our culture to allow minors go around with crazy hairstyles.

I remember when one of the sons of a former Nigerian Super Eagles coach carried this crazy hairstyle. He was about sixteen then but he gained a little popularity Nationally then.

When his father saw this boy return from Abuja with this hairstyle, the Coach went Ballistic. He said, "It seems the boy is tired of playing football."

His elder sister said, "There is no difference between this boy and a Motor park tout." His father and elder sister ordered him to skin his hair before he enters their family house. You need to see the laugh me and our neighbors had that day. The guy is a professional Footballer now in one of these Asian countries.

It is the same thing like Yaya and Bony asking Iheanacho to cut out his flamboyant celebrations. The Senior African Citizens felt it is not time for a young player trying to make a name for himself to celebrate like he is amazing.

I think young players should emulate Cristiano Ronaldo who has high level of discipline in his training and physical appearance. No tattoos, no crazy hairstyles and he reduces his party life. These can coke after the career.

Note, it is a case of choice. Not a case of right or wrong. [/b]

Napoleon55:


And I don't have problems with tatoos and hair styles. I'm carrying a stylish hair styles but decent.

What's time is the match? Is it this midnight or tomorrows midnight?

TheGoodJoe:



[b]I have tried to stay out of this argument but Napoleon55 is not wrong. It depends on who is in charge and how he views things. These guys are minors, it is hard for a coach growing up in our culture to allow minors go around with crazy hairstyles.

I remember when one of the sons of a former Nigerian Super Eagles coach carried this crazy hairstyle. He was about sixteen then but he gained a little popularity Nationally then.

When his father saw this boy return from Abuja with this hairstyle, the Coach went Ballistic. He said, "It seems the boy is tired of playing football."

His elder sister said, "There is no difference between this boy and a Motor park tout." His father and elder sister ordered him to skin his hair before he enters their family house. You need to see the laugh me and our neighbors had that day. The guy is a professional Footballer now in one of these Asian countries.

It is the same thing like Yaya and Bony asking Iheanacho to cut out his flamboyant celebrations. The Senior African Citizens felt it is not time for a young player trying to make a name for himself to celebrate like he is amazing.

I think young players should emulate Cristiano Ronaldo who has a high level of discipline in his training and physical appearance. No tattoos, no crazy hairstyles and he reduces his party life. These can come after the career.

Note, it is a case of choice. Not a case of right or wrong. [/b]

Napoleon55:


Neymar, hahahahaaa, n now u hit a point aligned to mine,FOCUSED, no it was not a coincidence,it was deliberate,in 2yrs time u'll c them.
It does not necessary have to be made as a rule,it would be passed as an instruction then it would b left for the players to either obey or disobey.

TheGoodJoe:



[b]I have tried to stay out of this argument but Napoleon55 is not wrong. It depends on who is in charge and how he views things. These guys are minors, it is hard for a coach growing up in our culture to allow minors go around with crazy hairstyles.

I remember when one of the sons of a former Nigerian Super Eagles coach carried this crazy hairstyle. He was about sixteen then but he gained a little popularity Nationally then.

When his father saw this boy return from Abuja with this hairstyle, the Coach went Ballistic. He said, "It seems the boy is tired of playing football."

His elder sister said, "There is no difference between this boy and a Motor park tout." His father and elder sister ordered him to skin his hair before he enters their family house. You need to see the laugh me and our neighbors had that day. The guy is a professional Footballer now in one of these Asian countries.

It is the same thing like Yaya and Bony asking Iheanacho to cut out his flamboyant celebrations. The Senior African Citizens felt it is not time for a young player trying to make a name for himself to celebrate like he is amazing.

I think young players should emulate Cristiano Ronaldo who has a high level of discipline in his training and physical appearance. No tattoos, no crazy hairstyles and he reduces his party life. These can come after the career.

Note, it is a case of choice. Not a case of right or wrong. [/b]

safarigirl:
he didn't forget, he just intentionally left me out. I totally understand

BascoVanVeli:


C who? The same C Ronaldo that had a party after losing 4-0, got caught peeing in public, always has a funky hair style and has the worst body language when things don't go his way. Maybe u meant Messi minus the tattoos.

Also Yaya telling Nacho not to over celebrate or dive are normal things veterans teach to young players. Yaya will never say don't get tattoos or cut ur hair like mine, look at Bony's head for God sake the thing is atrocious and Pellegrini rightfully doesn't care.

TheGoodJoe:



It is difficult for a man to have a whole career without a few slips. CR7 has really tried in maintaining a high disciplined career. Few slips does not tarnish that.

safarigirl:
attributing footballing success to hair cuts is silly.

I hate any form of untidy hair, I don't even like dreads or weaving on black men, so I'm not saying people should look like touts.

if I begin to judge people and predict their futures based on my moral belief, neither yourself nor Napoleon would pass because for one thing, I don't distinguish between adults and kids in haircuts, if you have dreads or any form of hair linked to females as a man, I will view you as irresponsible even more than the child because I can always blame youthful exuberance for their crazy hair-cuts, what's the adult's excuse? You can't make kids do some things without leading by example and no adult has moral justification to criticise a teen's haircut when his is far from modest. if you use more gel than a woman, you're irresponsible....and I certainly would never point out CR7 that has a child out of wedlock as a role model

I look at footballers the same way I see entertainers, they aren't part of the corporate society, they aren't in formal settings and I repeat, you can't convince someone with a brain that success in such areas is linked to hair cuts


judging a person's character based on his hair cut is idiotic because there are touts with good hair cut.

What oga is telling us is that someone like Iheanacho will not have a good career because of his hair style.

thegoodjoe, don't justify rubbish talk abeg, better to not contribute at all

joseph1013:


I think he's saying that CR7 is not the right example of morality given his past and current lifestyle and behaviour. It's a non-issue, really. Haircuts or not determine nothing. Examples abound aplenty in the Underage competitions. Neymar, Pogba readily come to mind. The reasons the Golden Eaglets are playing well is not become they are not sporting stylish hairstyles!

TheGoodJoe:



[b]I have tried to stay out of this argument but Napoleon55 is not wrong. It depends on who is in charge and how he views things. These guys are minors, it is hard for a coach growing up in our culture to allow minors go around with crazy hairstyles.

I remember when one of the sons of a former Nigerian Super Eagles coach carried this crazy hairstyle. He was about sixteen then but he gained a little popularity Nationally then.

When his father saw this boy return from Abuja with this hairstyle, the Coach went Ballistic. He said, "It seems the boy is tired of playing football."

His elder sister said, "There is no difference between this boy and a Motor park tout." His father and elder sister ordered him to skin his hair before he enters their family house. You need to see the laugh me and our neighbors had that day. The guy is a professional Footballer now in one of these Asian countries.

It is the same thing like Yaya and Bony asking Iheanacho to cut out his flamboyant celebrations. The Senior African Citizens felt it is not time for a young player trying to make a name for himself to celebrate like he is amazing.

I think young players should emulate Cristiano Ronaldo who has a high level of discipline in his training and physical appearance. No tattoos, no crazy hairstyles and he reduces his party life. These can come after the career.

Note, it is a case of choice. Not a case of right or wrong. [/b]

TheGoodJoe:



It is difficult for a man to have a whole career without a few slips. CR7 has really tried in maintaining a high disciplined career. Few slips does not tarnish that.

BascoVanVeli:



Not just a few slips Ronaldo has been a difficult teammate forever, his skills and physical attributes only cover that fact. Yes he is one of the best ever that can't be argued but I wouldn't say he is a role model, would he have told Iheanacho to stop his outrageous(so people say) goal celebrations Ronaldo also celebrates at practice.

TheGoodJoe:



I am not justifying rubbish. I am just pointing out that sometimes, a deviation from a flashy lifestyle can be related to success. Look at this instance, when Ireland was at Man City and he was trying to find his way into Mancini's squad, he sold his most expensive and flashy car.

Does it mean that having a flashy car means a player would not succeed? No? Does it mean Nacho celebrating Flamboyantly means he would not succeed?

But, every coach wants his players more focused on his game than how he looks to the public.

I remember once reading of Alex Ferguson pulling out of a deal to sign Miguel Veloso because he found out Miguel Veloso was having a modelling photo shoot.

I do not need talking too much about this issue. Just use the Yaya and Bony instructing Nacho to cut out his flamboyant celebration to understand my point.

adeyemi2015:

I wasn't wrong acknowledging your maturity and intelligent!
You are really superb and unbiased!
Thumb up for the nice input!

TheGoodJoe:



I disagree with Ronaldo being a difficult team mate. I think there is a negative aura built around CR7 that makes people have that negative view of CR7 but I do not see him as someone who is not a good role model. I think he is a great one.

confun:
honestly speaking, I see so much maturity in his post....

safarigirl:
attributing footballing success to hair cuts is silly.

I hate any form of untidy hair, I don't even like dreads or weaving on black men, so I'm not saying people should look like touts.

if I begin to judge people and predict their futures based on my moral belief, neither yourself nor Napoleon would pass because for one thing, I don't distinguish between adults and kids in haircuts, if you have dreads or any form of hair linked to females as a man, I will view you as irresponsible even more than the child because I can always blame youthful exuberance for their crazy hair-cuts, what's the adult's excuse? You can't make kids do some things without leading by example and no adult has moral justification to criticise a teen's haircut when his is far from modest. if you use more gel than a woman, you're irresponsible....and I certainly would never point out CR7 that has a child out of wedlock as a role model

I look at footballers the same way I see entertainers, they aren't part of the corporate society, they aren't in formal settings and I repeat, you can't convince someone with a brain that success in such areas is linked to hair cuts


judging a person's character based on his hair cut is idiotic because there are touts with good hair cut.

What oga is telling us is that someone like Iheanacho will not have a good career because of his hair style.

thegoodjoe, don't justify rubbish talk abeg, better to not contribute at all

Napoleon55:


No b only STEWpidity na SOUPpidity.
If u believe that my thoughts are shallow and senseless let's do battle on the field of play.
Let's predict tomorrow's match,let's see between me and u whose mind is deeper.
I predict that Nigeria will win by 2 goals,
And Osinhen won't score in an open play tomorrow,if he is going to score it would b through penalty.
Nigeria 2 Mexico 1 or 2.
nigeria wins by 2 goals or 2ru penalty shootout.
Let's c who will come closer,n u will come here to apologize.

I used to think that Safarigirl is one of those nasty South African chicks,when I first joined Nairaland,ur opinions used to pisses me off to the third heavens,but after a while it became a fun and enjoyable.
If u think that any opinions that does not align to urs is senseless and must not come to light,well u r wrong,
Note that I have switched to another thing,
How r sure that u passes knowledge more than I do,
Why always nasty words.
Just try me with this prediction,so when next I speak u won't b so quick to rebel me STEWpidity.
Why would I say that Nacho and Success won't succeed with stylish hairstyles,it's an outrageous accusation.
I knew Kanu and Okocha succeeded with their hairstyles,they r even role models.
But Kanu as U-17 didn't start with those hairstyles. OMG, I didn't know that I'm still doing this,I won't mention hairstyles again no matter what.
Have ur fun.

BascoVanVeli:


Not just a few slips Ronaldo has been a difficult teammate forever, his skills and physical attributes only cover that fact. Yes he is one of the best ever that can't be argued but I wouldn't say he is a role model, would he have told Iheanacho to stop his outrageous(so people say) goal celebrations Ronaldo also celebrates at practice.

TheGoodJoe:



I disagree with Ronaldo being a difficult team mate. I think there is a negative aura built around CR7 that makes people have that negative view of CR7 but I do not see him as someone who is not a good role model. I think he is a great one.

BascoVanVeli:


I don't need to look for aura with i see is Ronaldo pouting every time he doesn't get the ball, when Bale misses a free kick boy if looks could kill, and he curses regularly. Great player doesn't automatically mean role model, Maradona is to me the greatest ever, in 94 i cried when Argentina lost to Sweden and he wasn't even playing they just showed him for a second and that was it, i started crying, anyways my point is I would never call him my role model the man was the worst he got drunk, high all of the above. Why didnt i have him as a role model? Simple, my mother told me not to be like him because he really was a bad man and she even told me he was banned for using cocaine, her advise went a long way because i abstained from drugs for that exact reason I didnt want to end up like Maradona.

Long story short football players are only human and no human is perfect.