TheGoodJoe:


Please, do you remember a junior side of the 80's that scored a lovely goals were three Nigerian players gave consecutive back flicks of the ball before a Nigerian player took a long shot to score the goal.

If you know please tell me. I have looked for it and I can not find it.

TheGoodJoe:


Kpoi, must have been the sound the Bulgarian Goal keeper heard when Amunike unleashed a rocket in Nigeria's first match at the World Cup that hit the bar.

Men, if that shot had gone in, he would have become the first Nigerian to score at the World Cup. Great player.

Icon4s:


Very funny!

This Osimhen is better than the Awoniyi of the U17. I can't rate him against Success bc Success played only 1 and half game at the U17 wc.
I will also rate John Lazarus ahead of the Musa Mohammed of 2013 U17.

The 2015 defence is better than the 2013 defence. One of the other major he differences btw the two sets is that the 2013 set possessed more creative and lethal attacking Midfielders. (Iheanacho, Ezeh and Yahaya)= 10goals. vs (Chukwueze, Michael and Bamgboye).=4goals thus far.

By and large I think Amuneke has done great with this team. We all know how dey performed at the CAF U17. And I think the 2013 success is now the bench mark. This team drew inspiration from d last Eaglets.

Amuneke seems to be a very good tactician. And If I am in a position to recommend I think we should try Amuneke as the next U20 Coach while Manu should handle the U17.

Icon4s:


From the 1980s? Mennn most of the highlights of those games have faded from my memory. I can only usually remember the scorelines and some goal actions but not moves or assists that led to the goals. And u know that time na 12inch black and white TV we take watch match. Replays were not common sef. Any action wey u no see don pass be that
Not like now that we watch games on LED HD giant screen TV with several camera view replays.

TheGoodJoe:


I disagree on one part. Amunike is a tactical genius. This team started poorly. The were not convincing and ruthless as their counterparts.

Amunike's tactical set up turned the team into a success.

It is not a coincidence that two of the greatest tacticians in the game today, Guardiola and Luis Enrique are Amunike's former team mates at Barcelona.

TheGoodJoe:



The goal I am talking about was used as one of the clips on NTA news. If you remember then they will show different news clips when the News song plays. At the end, they will show this goal.

It is so long ago. I was just checking if you remember. No problem at all.

Icon4s:


Could it be the Nduka Ugbade's goal at the 1985 U17 final. Yes a long range shot from the edge of the 18yards box that almost hit the roof of the net. Yes, NTA Sports used it for years.I think that's d closest I can recall.

TheSuperNerd:
That's probably why I inserted the words....."Amuneke may not be a tactical genius or WHAT IF HE IS?......."

**smiles**

Right from previous pages I was among the first (if not the first) to say that this team based on Amuneke's philosophy will be hard to beat coz their tactical discipline and tactical dynamics added to the "Ruthlessness", "form", and "Class" of the team's top talents(when in their elements as they've shown to be).......... *smiles*

I was non-commital on whether he's a genius or not, that's why I ended with, "What if he is?" He may as well be..... But I'll delay my judgment "a little" on this one..... But one thing is certain.... Amuneke is an amazingly keen tactical conjurer...... *smiles*

So it's not me u should take up but ur namesake....... Sir Joseph *smiles*

TheSuperNerd:
Are u telling me? Or just making a comment?

Coz I definitely don't hv a short memory.......... *smiles*

I was referring to the "5-1" punch reported not the 3-0 final result............*smiles*

TheGoodJoe:


I believe it takes a flash of genius to prove that someone is a genius. For Amunike to set up his team in a way that tactically brilliant coaches want to study Amunike's set up deeply, shows and tells a lot why he is good.

My prayers and heart is with this team. I hope they do well to set a remarkable height for upcoming Nigerian players and coaches.

TheGoodJoe:



Definitely it. Thanks. I knew you would remember.

safarigirl:
you should be wowed by a team that scores 3 goals with 46% possession and doesn't concede

TheGoodJoe:


I believe it takes a flash of genius to prove that someone is a genius. For Amunike to set up his team in a way that tactically brilliant coaches want to study Amunike's set up deeply, shows and tells a lot why he is good.

My prayers and heart is with this team. I hope they do well to set a remarkable height for upcoming Nigerian players and coaches.

Icon4s:


Yeah

Just also like the Kpoi!! that James Biri of Zambia heard at the 1994 AFCON Final from Amunke's header.

tbaba1234:


Amuneke is one of the few Nigeria coaches with the UEFA A coaching license similar to oliseh but tactics is limited for under 17.

You don' t want to be over teaching tactics.

tbaba1234:


Amuneke is one of the few Nigeria coaches with the UEFA A coaching license similar to oliseh but tactics is limited for under 17.

You don' t want to be over teaching tactics.

safarigirl:
are you here to make genuine enquiries or just another jobless mischief maker?

You better go troll some other thread, you don't want to mess around where I am.

siralos135:
Hmmmmm Nigerians will praise u to high heavens when u seems to be doing well.The next minute they will condemn like u had never succeeded before if u fail.
The only way to know d coach is good is for him to bring home the trophy.Anything short is a failure!!! There is a precedence he must compete with.As a matter of fact,the real challenge for us a nation should be to translate this seemingly success into winning the ever elusive u-20 world cup and consequently the World Cup.
The abuse Manu "chopped" is still fresh in my memory......when u consider how people were comparing to guardiola,mourinho,wenger and the likes.
This guys tends to fail because we never allow them prove themselves again and again before we idolise them.
Whatever the result is tomorrow, I am not moved!

siralos135:
Hmmmmm Nigerians will praise u to high heavens when u seems to be doing well.The next minute they will condemn like u had never succeeded before if u fail.
The only way to know d coach is good is for him to bring home the trophy.Anything short is a failure!!! There is a precedence he must compete with.As a matter of fact,the real challenge for us a nation should be to translate this seemingly success into winning the ever elusive u-20 world cup and consequently the World Cup.
The abuse Manu "chopped" is still fresh in my memory......when u consider how people were comparing to guardiola,mourinho,wenger and the likes.
This guys tends to fail because we never allow them prove themselves again and again before we idolise them.
Whatever the result is tomorrow, I am not moved!

siralos135:
Hmmmmm Nigerians will praise u to high heavens when u seems to be doing well.The next minute they will condemn like u had never succeeded before if u fail.
The only way to know d coach is good is for him to bring home the trophy.Anything short is a failure!!! There is a precedence he must compete with.As a matter of fact,the real challenge for us a nation should be to translate this seemingly success into winning the ever elusive u-20 world cup and consequently the World Cup.
The abuse Manu "chopped" is still fresh in my memory......when u consider how people were comparing to guardiola,mourinho,wenger and the likes.
This guys tends to fail because we never allow them prove themselves again and again before we idolise them.
Whatever the result is tomorrow, I am not moved!

adeyemi2015:
You are on point man! I could recall how Fans, particularly on the previous U17 thread and U20 thread respectively, were comparing Manu Garba to Pep Gurdiola because of his success with the previous under 17 Team. At the U20, it became so obvious that he's not as genius as many thought of him.
I pray the same fate wouldn't repeat itself on Emmanuel Amuneke. We are so good at hyping the in-form Players and Coaches of the National Team(s), but once they misstep or lose form, they gonna be buried alive!

safarigirl:
so you'll wait for a trophy before praising him abi? Then if he messes up after the trophy, you attack him? how does that make you any different? if anything even pettier.

When you see something good, you praise it, and don't be scared to vilify the same person if he does wrong. You shouldn't ignore a wrong based on a past right, else, the likes of Lance Armstrong and Tiger Woods would still be at the pinnacle of world sports.


I'm not expecting a trophy from these boys, as cool as it would be to win the U17 back-to-back, the fact that these boys have reached the semis, they've surpassed all expectations

TheGoodJoe:


I am expecting the back to back trophies.

TheGoodJoe:


I still rate Manu Garba as a genius. Up there with the best. His philosphy of the game is amazing. He plays one of the best open attractive football that will ever be seen in the game.

It is not just about the trophy. I also feel very few can compete with Manu Garba when it comes to scouting talents.

That is why people were disappointed in Manu Garba because we all knew he could do better than what we saw at the U20 WYC.

safarigirl:
lol....would be cool, but I won't have a rant off if it doesn't happen

Icon4s:


Yeah, u see eh, over d yrs i have learnt to watch football with 2 hearts. If 1 is dameged due to defeat i switch over to d other 1. U will understand when i tell u i am an Arsenal fan in addition to being a Super Eagles fan.

The last time i cried in football was during Algiers 90 AFCON when Raba Maja and Medaj Jamel led Algerian team whipped d Green Eagles 5-1!

Trophy or no throphy we have discovered d stars of this team already.

enomakos:
maybe victor is dating his kid sister and he is not in support

adeyemi2015:
You are on point man! I could recall how Fans, particularly on the previous U17 thread and U20 thread respectively, were comparing Manu Garba to Pep Gurdiola because of his success with the previous under 17 Team. At the U20, it became so obvious that he's not as genius as many thought of him.
I pray the same fate wouldn't repeat itself on Emmanuel Amuneke. We are so good at hyping the in-form Players and Coaches of the National Team(s), but once they misstep or lose form, they gonna be buried alive!

TheSuperNerd:
Manu Garba remains a top tactical genius irrespective of the sabotage he permitted at New Zealand 2015 (Manu don't wanna be termed a loser...... So he would hv realised his wrong albeit silently).

I remember suggesting in the u-23 thread that the Nff retain Manu and his crew and also keep Amuneke and his crew with the u-17 and u-20, rotating them every 2yrs+ between u-17 and u-20.

Example:
-Amunuke starts with u-17 in 2014 (that's this current set) and takes them to u-20 in 2017 before returning to the u-17 by early 2018......

-Manu resumes with the u-17 in early 2016 and sees them through to the u-20s in 2019...... And returning to the u-17 by early 2020.........

-and so the cycle goes....... **Irrespective of how NZ 2015 turned out and Yes, "MANU MESSED UP BIG TIME"......We still need the best of our coaches at the youth and cadet LEVELS that can keep this trend of churning out TOP TALENTS FOR THE FUTURE GOING...........**