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Re: We Don't Know Where Chibok Girls Are - US by Shecy: 10:57am On Jun 30, 2014
Guys wake up!!! No one would watch the structure built for his selfish self centered generational unlimited source of riches be truncated by Transformation agenda (Babangida).

A Nigerian politician openly declared that he will make the country ungovernable and all these starts happening, Bomb today, Kidnapped girls tomorrow nobody knows what next. Yet he his sitting comfortably in the country with no questioning. BUHARI DECLARED IT OPENLY, so why is F.G doing as if they dont know where or who to face. Either he admits he knows or not he should be arrested, questioned and detained until further discovery or notice. We have enough money to pay for damages if found innocent later.

Lastly. The People that benefitted from all these oil subsidy things which has been cut off by transformation agenda also have a hand in all these too. THEY KNOW THEM yet than for the F.G to arrest them they prefer to remove the subsidy. so they should track all these people.

Wherever the truth stands yes people that benefits from the darkness, corruption and wickedness will fight back violently, just as in the case of Nafdac they were after Prof Dora's(RIP) Life and even shot but bullet went through her head tie.

President Goodluck said it several times after each bombing. ''We know them and we ll surely bring them to book''. So WHEN? is the big question........

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Re: We Don't Know Where Chibok Girls Are - US by Mentcee(m): 11:06am On Jun 30, 2014
Boo-by trap turns to booby trap!
Re: We Don't Know Where Chibok Girls Are - US by macof(m): 11:08am On Jun 30, 2014
MrChinex: If USA can't find the girls then they should stop calling theirselves super powers... They should call theirselves Lesser powers... Simple

Shut up and stop deceiving yourself, is USA our father?

They have tried with the concern they showed over a problem that isn't theirs

I ask what has Nigerian government done to find the girls rather than scream for help?

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Re: We Don't Know Where Chibok Girls Are - US by jpphilips(m): 11:11am On Jun 30, 2014
eluquenson: Sound absurd but truth has been said. It is a pure conspiracy by the northerners to rubbish GEJ govt.

Do you really expect the US to tell you even if they know? The same way they sent a memo to Pakistan when they found Osama?
I understand completely, you want your stup!d Air chief to run to the press as usual.
You guys have no idea how an organized military works.

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Re: We Don't Know Where Chibok Girls Are - US by Shecy: 11:20am On Jun 30, 2014
bushdoc9919: Why some people believe that the Chibok kidnap is a hoax.

There are many who believe that the Chibok kidnap is something of a plot against the President. Obviously, the President does not think so (he recently accepted the report of a committee on the kidnap,and also wrote an article in the Wash. Post reaffirming his commitment to finding them) and neither does the Army and many other Nigerians. Yet, the rumor persists. Why?

The answer lies in what happens in the mindset of those who think the kidnapping is a hoax, should they accept the fact that it sin't a hoax, but real. Accepting the reality of the kidnap is (to them) tantamount to accepting that the PDP has failed, and that it must be voted out in 2015. This means that a Southern president would lose, and a Northerner take over....and thus potential development for the South (read increased allocation of oil money) receeds. Thus it is in their interest that the kidnapping be a hoax.

Of course, that is ridiculous. To start with, kidnappings have always happened in Nigeria. During Yaradua's regime, there were scores of kidnappings in the South East and South South....and I hardly recall anyone saying that it was all a plot against Yaradua's government...on the contrary, the SE govs did try to deal with the problem. There were also kidnappings during OBJ's regime. No one said it was a plot. In America and other Western nations, there are kidnappings of children and adults, some of which have not been solved to this day,even after as long as twenty years. Yet, no one says that the American govt must fall because of the kidnapping.

Plus, kidnappings by Boko have been happening in the NE region for a long time. Recall when Boko killed several school boys months ago.? They also kidnapped some girls from the school. And no one said it was a plot.(Indeed, radical islamist groups, and even secular groups tend to kidnap and keep hostages, sometimes for years).

But the hoax theory persists....because people seem to think that if GEJ is not elected in 2015, they would 'suffer'.A mirror image of that thought is seen amongst some Northerners who think that if GEJ is elected, they would suffer. Why do such thoughts persist.?

Because of the virtual collapse of local governments in this country....most LGA's exist to chop money.....as well as the under-performance of state governments in this country...people look to Abuja to do the job that states and LGA's do not do. And the only way Abuja will come quickly and do the job is if your son is in office. That is what the competiton about 2015 is really about....and it is central to to understading why some believe Chibok is a hoax.

Because accepting the truth that it isn't means that they have to go to their LGA's and states and force the change needed for improvements there. That they have to stop relying on Abuja.(Likewise, Northerners accepting responsibility for Boko Haram means that they have to go home and change their way of governance). And the truth is, most Nigerians are now creatures of low expectations. We do not want to do the hard work of voting out incompetent state and LGA chairmen/govs/rulers because it is soooo much hard work., and we may fail. Better we just let Abuja do the job for us...which is why we must get our son in.(and indeed, I am of the opinion that Abuja fails because Abuja has to do the jobs that in a sane society governors and LGA chairmen have to do)

In a way.,Chibok is a reflection, a reflection of the average Nigerian's refusal to change himself. That is why we have some people blaming the govt for Boko Haram, some others blaming America for Boko Haram, and a host of conspiracy theories about a tragic kidnap. Perhaps, a little bit of self blame is in order....but no we won't. We would much rather break the mirror, rather than admit the truth of what the mirror shows us....that we are a proud and bigoted people who blame others for our mistakes.

Its either you are a bloody politician or a biased northerner. When Kidnap was going on in SE Nigeria, they have a reason to do so. Land, Homes and water destroyed by oil exploration and government keep using the oil money to develop Abuja and sharing the majority of allocation to the northern states, while they die and suffer no good health care or Job.
But as for Boko haram, they are daft dumb brain set of politicians with no tangible reason for their devilish act. The western education has been here since and why is it now they decide to to start acting up. GUY GIVE URSELF BRAIN JARE...
Re: We Don't Know Where Chibok Girls Are - US by philiplamb: 11:21am On Jun 30, 2014
jp philips:

Do you really expect the US to tell you even if they know? The same way they sent a memo to Pakistan when they found Osama?
You guys have no idea how an organized military works.
thank u ma bro, besides who knows if these girls were really kidnapped. Naija is a terrible place o....
Re: We Don't Know Where Chibok Girls Are - US by Positiveminds(m): 11:27am On Jun 30, 2014
When Asari Dokubo said no girls were abducted he was insulted. The truth will surely come out, no matter how long it takes.

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Re: We Don't Know Where Chibok Girls Are - US by jpphilips(m): 11:28am On Jun 30, 2014
shaggy007: [size=15pt]I've said it before and I'll say it again...No girls were kidnapped. Even a blind man can see through the propaganda...

The APC is trying very hard to paint GEJ black. Since they can't touch him, they want the international communities to attack him. Anyway, my president can't be bothered by nonsense.

These idiots just went to the streets of the north and paid off a few girls to pretend they were kidnapped...who is fooling who?

Now, when the girls were initially kidnapped, Shekau released some videos claiming they were the ones that kidnapped the girls....but in those videos, no girls were shown. The real Shekau would have proudly displayed the girls in his first video after the kidnap. So after people noticed that he didn't display any girls (duh, he never had them), he then went ahead and paid off some poor girls to do a video with him. After they've done the video shoot, they were dismissed; oh wait, you think those guys have time to babysit 200 and something girls? By the way, how many girls were displayed in the video?

And after the girls were purportedly kidnapped, we asked for their names. After a cat and mouse game with the media, and just barely 2weeks ago, their names and pictures were released to the press. Why wasn't it done instantly? Why were their names and pictures released after 2months of being in captivity? Why doesn't the school have a record of the kidnapped girls? How many northerners go to school? The few that are in school cannot be accounted for.

I repeat, who is fooling who?...I'll answer that...the northerners are fooling Nigerians. Majority of Nigerians are gullible....very very dumb. They believe anything. You see a video and believe the content. When you guys start thinking logically, Nigeria will cease to be a third world country.

It took the US only a few days to realize that something wasn't right. They left Nigeria as quickly as they came. They didn't even stay up to a week in Nigeria before they diffused.

And all those saying that the FG has confirmed that girls were kidnapped, or OBJ offered to help or some other bull5h1t, that goes to show how gullible you guys are.

Did GEJ go to sambisa himself to confirm the kidnap? Didn't he send people to confirm it? Can you vouch for the reliability of those people he sent? Can't they be bribed to provide false reports?

And as for OBJ, don't you guys know when a person is talking in parables? He said he has contacted bokoharam but the girls will NEVER be released. Why? What does he mean by that? What he means is that no girls were kidnapped. OBJ can't openly say it like that, he's a very cunning fellow.

That how all you Muslim and christian f001s literally believe everything in the Quran and the bible. You don't know when something is being said in parables.

Dumbasses.

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Ret@rd!!

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Re: We Don't Know Where Chibok Girls Are - US by Demdem(m): 11:29am On Jun 30, 2014
lyntiffany: was talking about your signature and not your quote, that aside do you have to insult before you convey your message?

Goon, u would have stated that from ur original post then.
Am busy smashing fools head, no time to attend to this hypocrisy of urs, at least for now.
Re: We Don't Know Where Chibok Girls Are - US by Nobody: 11:32am On Jun 30, 2014
Shecy:

Its either you are a bloody politician or a biased northerner. When Kidnap was going on in SE Nigeria, they have a reason to do so. Land, Homes and water destroyed by oil exploration and government keep using the oil money to develop Abuja and sharing the majority of allocation to the northern states, while they die and suffer no good health care or Job.

1.So kidnapping is justified in the SE? Goodness...tell that to some of the families affected....including one that recently lost its patriach....as well as the oil worker whose seven year old son was shot dead in a botched kidnap.

And how does kidnapping an elederly Igbo man by his fellow Igbos advance the cause of resource control? Eh?

2.Are all parts of Igbo land under oil exploration?

3.Don't justify wrong things. Why don't you and your northern friends vote in, or at least force your local governments to develop your communities well. But you won't...because it is so easy to chop , rather than to organize for change.

Does Abuja have to do your work for you?

But as for Boko haram, they are daft dumb brain set of politicians with no tangible reason for their devilish act. The western education has been here since and why is it now they decide to to start acting up.

That I won''t disagree with.

GUY GIVE URSELF BRAIN JARE...

Thank you for your sage and wise and kind advice.

Nigerians...it is someone else's fault.
Re: We Don't Know Where Chibok Girls Are - US by Shecy: 11:32am On Jun 30, 2014
philiplamb: thank u ma bro, besides who knows if these girls were really kidnapped. Naija is a terrible place o....

Of couse... They would never come to public to announce that they have found the place and planning to invade tomorrow. They didn't alert Pakistan that osama's hideout has been found before attacking. NIGERIANS THINK JOR! and keep calm.
Re: We Don't Know Where Chibok Girls Are - US by Nobody: 11:42am On Jun 30, 2014
FotherMucker: Some people really are just stup1d. If you suspect no girls were kidnapped and if indeed that was true, why then :

1. did GEJ sponsor an op ed in the Washington post claiming he is working tirelessly to bring back the girls?

2. Why did the MIlitary claim it knows where the girls are being held?

3. Why did OBJ, an ex president, offer to help?

4. Why did half the world offer help? You mean you in your couch fiddling your cheap android knockoff know better than these countries including the worlds superpower?

5. How is it possible for a mere governor in a War ravaged state able to fool the whole world?

6. Why did the presidential fact finding committe admit girls were indeed missing?

7. How can you maintain the silence of over 200 so called parents? You think one of them wouldn't blow the whistle for bigger pay from the FG with this sensational scoop?

8. How can over 200 northern Christian minorities ally with a Muslim governor to tarnish a Christian president in today's bigoted and divided Nigeria?


Kindly stop loudly broadcasting your limited intelligence in a public forum, simply skulk your mental impotence in a dark corner of your room removed from the knowing glare of the informed public.

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Re: We Don't Know Where Chibok Girls Are - US by Nobody: 11:43am On Jun 30, 2014
Lmao @ all the comments!!

This re-affirms my assertion that most Nigerians are either stark illiterates, or educated illiterates. Hence nothing shocks anymore about the mentality, and the thought process of the people. The calibre of people they vote into power for crumbs also adds credence to that.

I believe most of you think once America gets involved, boom, it's some Jack Bauer shyte and the girls would be found within days, no? - bwahahahahaha.

Ever heard about classified information, and intelligence gathering? Even if they know where the girls are, do you think they'll inform the Nigerian government or the press? They're not under the Nigerian command, and they owe Nigeria no information sharing. Those out there in Nigeria searching for the girls are under AFRICOM/Pentagon command, and they're not there to rescue anyone, hence they never sent their special forces in the first place. It was for surveillance and information gathering - and I believe they have gathered enough information, hence the need to reduce surveillance. I'd wager that they already have first hand information about where the girls are. And they're probably aware that the Nigerian government also have inside information about the whereabouts of those girls.

Anyway, the next step would be for both parties(Nigerian government and the kidnappers) to negotiate their release.

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Re: We Don't Know Where Chibok Girls Are - US by Nobody: 11:47am On Jun 30, 2014
SMH. 77 days. It has been over 2 months. Those girls are GONE. BH has even kidnapped another 90.

Nigerian useless lying leaders said they found them. The US said they could not verify that claim.

So this is not a surprise to anyone with sense.
Re: We Don't Know Where Chibok Girls Are - US by hardbody: 11:49am On Jun 30, 2014
prettyboi1989:
Hey u can't blame d us if dey cudnt find anyfin, its quite difficult searchn 4 missin ppl in developing countries dan in developd countries where u av working cctv, facial recognition, finger print database, gps tracker on most cars, vehicle licence plate registration, etc whch helps in dia search for criminals n missin persons

The only thing i like about you is the frankness in calling yourself a boy, because that is exactly what you are. Think like a grown up, you may grow up someday.
Re: We Don't Know Where Chibok Girls Are - US by Nobody: 11:49am On Jun 30, 2014
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Re: We Don't Know Where Chibok Girls Are - US by Mogidi: 11:50am On Jun 30, 2014
Demdem:

Goon, u would have stated that from ur original post then.
Am busy smashing fools head, no time to attend to this hypocrisy of urs, at least for now.

So your own head is now in pieces?

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Re: We Don't Know Where Chibok Girls Are - US by Shecy: 11:52am On Jun 30, 2014
[quote author=bushdoc9919]

1.So kidnapping is justified in the SE?
NOT JUSTIFIED only that at least there are tangible obvious and visible reasons for some of their actions, which might not necessarily be political.

3.Don't justify wrong things. Why don't you and your northern friends vote in, or at least force your local governments to develop your communities well. But you won't...because it is so easy to chop , rather than to organize for change.

Does Abuja have to do your work for you?

Abuja takes the money so they should work for them, If Abuja wont work for the SE states then they should let this states have resource control and they would pay royalty to the F.G! Simple.
No land is destroyed in the north, there was an open threat that they would make the country ungovernable and we all heard it.
Re: We Don't Know Where Chibok Girls Are - US by Nobody: 11:55am On Jun 30, 2014
The article itself is self-explanatory.

Excerpts from the article:

A US defence official speaking on condition of anonymity said American flights had been reduced only after a body of intelligence had been gathered and that the cuts had been offset by the British and the French support.


One US official voiced concerns that Boko Haram might have bosom-trapped areas where the girls could be held, and there had been reports that they might have been split up into groups that were not being held in one place.

It will take the Nigerian piece of the equation with their own sources and human intelligence coupled with the other forms to really understand the picture,

^^^^Anyone with an ounce of intelligence, who has read these excerpts should be able to deduce the nuanced meaning of these. They even alluded to the "Nigerian human intelligence" to really understand the picture - bwahahahahahaha. Darn!! These people actually know human intelligence is uncommon in Nigeria. grin

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Re: We Don't Know Where Chibok Girls Are - US by Nobody: 11:57am On Jun 30, 2014
#BringBackOurGirls

Muthaphuckas!!!

Why are Nigerians playing politics with people's lives and security? Are you lot not tired of the daily bombings and carnage?
Re: We Don't Know Where Chibok Girls Are - US by Layolaw(f): 11:58am On Jun 30, 2014
You don't know where they are? Or you can't go near them now? Which one?
Re: We Don't Know Where Chibok Girls Are - US by goodgood2(m): 11:59am On Jun 30, 2014
gratiaeo:
My question is what is the governor of that state doing? This animal is the one behind all this kidnap.
Even the “almighty USA” couldn’t find the kidnapped girls,meaning no girls were kidnapped.
Exactly. If the US can't find "them", then "they" were not abducted. Just like my guy ASARI said, no girl was abducted, it's all a scam.
Re: We Don't Know Where Chibok Girls Are - US by BrightCar: 11:59am On Jun 30, 2014
X-factoria:
Unacceptable!

They must find them o.....haba! Is Jack Bauer not an American again grin grin grin
talk is cheap, action is zero. army recruitment is on, join the army and go search for the girls, you frightened old rat!
Re: We Don't Know Where Chibok Girls Are - US by Nobody: 12:05pm On Jun 30, 2014
Anyway, I believe negotiations are on-going, hence they keep releasing them one by one every other month, claiming they escaped, just to show that they're still alive and being treated well.

Once negotiations have been concluded - the Nigerian military militia would get their Jack Bauer on, claiming they killed two gazillion boko harams and released the girls.
Re: We Don't Know Where Chibok Girls Are - US by OrlandoOwoh(m): 12:06pm On Jun 30, 2014
luvinhubby:
That you still have roof over ya head, pants covering your butts, amala & gbegiri to eat this afternoon & a job to foot the cost of the data (mb) that you are expending on posting what you punch from your laptop/phone keyboard is a plus for GEJ.....you need more? cheesy
Rubbish.

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Re: We Don't Know Where Chibok Girls Are - US by OrlandoOwoh(m): 12:10pm On Jun 30, 2014
Shecy: Guys wake up!!! No one would watch the structure built for his selfish self centered generational unlimited source of riches be truncated by Transformation agenda (Babangida).

A Nigerian politician openly declared that he will make the country ungovernable and all these starts happening, Bomb today, Kidnapped girls tomorrow nobody knows what next. Yet he his sitting comfortably in the country with no questioning. BUHARI DECLARED IT OPENLY, so why is F.G doing as if they dont know where or who to face. Either he admits he knows or not he should be arrested, questioned and detained until further discovery or notice. We have enough money to pay for damages if found innocent later.

Lastly. The People that benefitted from all these oil subsidy things which has been cut off by transformation agenda also have a hand in all these too. THEY KNOW THEM yet than for the F.G to arrest them they prefer to remove the subsidy. so they should track all these people.

Wherever the truth stands yes people that benefits from the darkness, corruption and wickedness will fight back violently, just as in the case of Nafdac they were after Prof Dora's(RIP) Life and even shot but bullet went through her head tie.

President Goodluck said it several times after each bombing. ''We know them and we ll surely bring them to book''. So WHEN? is the big question........
Your President is confused.

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Re: We Don't Know Where Chibok Girls Are - US by odudueffiom(m): 12:15pm On Jun 30, 2014
una sure say d girls wer kidnapped?
Re: We Don't Know Where Chibok Girls Are - US by princenayo: 12:24pm On Jun 30, 2014
We have said it on this platform that Chibok saga was a conspiracy theory of the north and its allies. The security Agencies should stop wasting their time looking for what was not missing.
Re: We Don't Know Where Chibok Girls Are - US by t12tosin: 12:24pm On Jun 30, 2014
cry kiss undecided lipsrsealed embarassed tongue cool shocked grin cheesy wink smiley angry sad

My fellow country ppl, what u see above is what is happening in our country, but in a reverse order
Re: We Don't Know Where Chibok Girls Are - US by Demdem(m): 12:32pm On Jun 30, 2014
Mogidi:

So your own head is now in pieces?


Are u one of those fools head am currently smashing
Re: We Don't Know Where Chibok Girls Are - US by Nobody: 12:34pm On Jun 30, 2014
Let me post an excerpt from another source, and hopefully, the airheads would be able to see a clearer picture:

"We had substantial initial coverage for the baseline and we’ve moved into a maintenance mode," the official said, speaking on condition of anonymity.

http://www.newsweek.com/us-reduces-nigeria-surveillance-flights-seeking-abducted-girls-256482

^^^That's self-explanatory. Baseline and maintenance mode.

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Re: We Don't Know Where Chibok Girls Are - US by Nobody: 12:35pm On Jun 30, 2014
Shecy: [quote author=bushdoc9919]

1.So kidnapping is justified in the SE?
NOT JUSTIFIED only that at least there are tangible obvious and visible reasons for some of their actions, which might not necessarily be political.

3.Don't justify wrong things. Why don't you and your northern friends vote in, or at least force your local governments to develop your communities well. But you won't...because it is so easy to chop , rather than to organize for change.

Does Abuja have to do your work for you?

Abuja takes the money so they should work for them, If Abuja wont work for the SE states then they should let this states have resource control and they would pay royalty to the F.G! Simple.
No land is destroyed in the north, there was an open threat that they would make the country ungovernable and we all heard it.

I guess your problem is that you are far worried about who shares the money than about actual development on the ground. Proving my point.

Indeed, you may not know it, but my problem with you Nigerians , Northerners and Southerners is that you have neglected the problems in your backyards to go to Abuja to create headache for Aso Rock.

All those years of govt allocations....and you people cannot use one talent to generate twenty? Do you have to wait for resource control before you use your education to develop your communities? Indeed, does the North need to be in power before its problems are solved? Does the South need to be in power before its problems are solved?

(I guess that the problem of Nigeria is no longer PDP, or even APC....but lazy Nigerians who won't force their states and LGA's to work for them...and who think that development is all about increased oil money....And the funny thing is that they say that each atate should use what it has to develop themselves...only they believe it is the other states or regions , not their own....so that they can enjoy oil money. Sometimes, I think the white man wasted his time giving us education....education is meant to solve problems, not to corner more cash in yer office...or to forever be recieving cash from govt forever and ever).

But, anyway, my point ultimately is that the PDP govt does not become incompetent because it makes mistakes. Rather it is how it responds to those mistakes that will determine whether it is incompetent or not.

Thus the fact that 200 girls were kidnapped under GEJ's govt does not make it incompetent.(which seems to be the line of your thinking)....rather it is how it responds to the kidnapping that will determine if it is incompetent or not(and so far, they have been making some good decisions....including not to rush and free the girls...because Boko may just decide to kill them)

And one more thing...the fact that I think that the Chibok Kidnapping is not a hoax does not mean I want to bring down the govt by foul means....and I resent your insinuations in that direction( and I am a Southerner by the way).

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