tpia1:

in what way?

You just saw the example of the quoted person.

PAGAN9JA:
I detest mixed-marriages.

Marriages between close groups is ok though. (e.g., Urhobo-Esan, Bini-Yoruba, Igbo-Ekpe, Marghi-Bura, etc.)

Mixed Marriages destroy tribes and cultures.

Or they may produce children who have an appreciation for both cultures.....or who may just simply take on their father's culture.

Also good from a genetic point of view.

tpia1:


were you full "insert something here" before?

At this time of the day, my brain needs rebooting. I did not quite understand your post, may i request that you re-couch your question.

Were you in anyway asking whether i was full igbo/efik at any point in time? if that was your question, please re-read my post, i think it is self explanatory.

egopersonified: Sorry I'm full blown etsakor(edo), my mum, dad, stepmum, aunties, husband, children,etc,etc are all etsakor

Etsako nor Etsakor

Sadly All4Naija can't be here..


The guy is a mixed breed like Nkita and Alsatian..

all4naija: OP is biased! Mixed heritage can also include one of the parents being white, yellow or black. Aye!

You don't belong here sir..


You are mixed specie.. Your problems are spiritual and psychological in nature.

All4Naija is like Seuns Dog..


nobody knows what the fhuck to call it.. Ekutian.. Or Alkuke.

soulglo:

Etsako nor Etsakor

Are you my long lost step father ni?

dad - igala, mum -igbo, dnt hia a word in ma dad's tongue at all

rickkid: Not always true. I'm a mix myself and I speak fluent Yoruba along with some Efik. It depends on the parents' willingness to pass down their cultural context and awareness. And by the way, the current cultures and languages here came from interaction and mixing with others as well. For example the word for 'onion' in Yoruba, 'Alubosa' is actually a Hausa word which was adopted after interaction with the Hausa people. Culture is fluid, not static. Don't be afraid of change. As long as that basic African awareness is incorporated into the new culture, we're good to go. It's better to have an English speaking generation of Nigerians who respect their Africanness and prosper with mutual cooperation than millions of native language dolts who kneel to foreign gods and destroy their own economy by chasing imports and foreign fads, which is what we have currently.

Exactly. you speak some Efik.

Mixing causes the neglect of cultures. If not both sides, then atleast one side. whose language will you speak? whose culture will you follow? whose Gods will you worship? ,etc..

Then imagine, you as a mixed pesin goes on and marries another mixed person. or even a pure person of another ethnicity, lets say Fulani.

Then are you saying me your offspring has to balance 3 or 4 cultures, learn 3-4 languages,etc.? Ofcourse not!
In this age, your child is more likely to go for English as in the example above.

Going further, by the 3rd generation, (your offsprings children), the cultures will be extinct!


Culture is supposed to develop. Not mixed or get destroyed. We are not African-Americans. We are Mainland Africans and what makes us unique is our Various tribes, ethnic groups, languages, outlooks, personalities, etc. If we work together, we are a force to be reckoned with.

We cannot afford to lose our tribes.


The West lost their tribes and went on a rampage, destroying others cultures. Today the west has no proper culture, deteriorating morality, lack of family /tribal kinship and values, etc.


Hausas never mixed with Yorubas. We are both of separate and different stock. Your example of onions is useless. The reason for that loanword is because onions probably never existed in Yorubaland ,prior to introduction by Hausa farmers and Traders from the North. Hausas never breeded with Yorubas to produce onions .

bushdoc9919:

Or they may produce children who have an appreciation for both cultures.....or who may just simply take on their father's culture.

Also good from a genetic point of view.

And in addition, in the interest of building a national identity which is stronger than ethnic affiliation, intermixing is key. This is one of the reasons why the youth service scheme was created. Incidentally, I met my fiancee in camp during NYSC. Why is there less ethnic-based violence in Southern Africa compared to West and Central/East Africa? Because after centuries of mixing, they're all practically the same people now. An Ndebele from Zimbabwe can understand the language of a Xhosa in South Africa or a Kalanga from Malawi. They get on a whole lot better than us up here.

PAGAN9JA:

Exactly. you speak some Efik.

Mixing causes the neglect of cultures. If not both sides, then atleast one side. whose language will you speak? whose culture will you follow? whose Gods will you worship? ,etc..

Then imagine, you as a mixed pesin goes on and marries another mixed person. or even a pure person of another ethnicity, lets say Fulani.

Then are you saying me your offspring has to balance 3 or 4 cultures, learn 3-4 languages,etc.? Ofcourse not!
In this age, your child is more likely to go for English as in the example above.

Going further, by the 3rd generation, (your offsprings children), the cultures will be extinct!


Culture is supposed to develop. Not mixed or get destroyed. We are not African-Americans. We are Mainland Africans and what makes us unique is our Various tribes, ethnic groups, languages, outlooks, personalities, etc. If we work together, we are a force to be reckoned with.

We cannot afford to lose our tribes.


The West lost their tribes and went on a rampage, destroying others cultures. Today the west has no proper culture, deteriorating morality, lack of family /tribal kinship and values, etc.


Hausas never mixed with Yorubas. We are both of separate and different stock. Your example of onions is useless. The reason for that loanword is because onions probably never existed in Yorubaland ,prior to introduction by Hausa farmers and Traders from the North. Hausas never breeded with Yorubas.

Actually they have, I know a girl whose mother is yoruba and father hausa and there are others

small numbers but they exist

bushdoc9919:

Or they may produce children who have an appreciation for both cultures.....or who may just simply take on their father's culture.

Also good from a genetic point of view.

Please who are you kidding?

What use is appreciation when it stands chance of losing practice?

Is our culture a masquerade or something?


and how is it good from genetic point of view? I believe it brings about newer diseases. I as a full-blooded African Hausa man feel more immune,stronger and resistant than a mixed oyinbo.

Note: No one is talking baout marrying blood relatives. Let us just marry within our tribes and expand ourselves.

Victoriousvic: Hehehe.

Efik and Ibibio. Birds of the same feather sha.

My own na Efik and Annang.

suyu:

Actually they have, I know a girl whose mother is yoruba and father hausa and there are others

small numbers but they exist

Please we are not talking about this century.

In this age, man mixes with man, woman mates with donkey and what not.



In the past, it might have taken in minute numbers but was overall diluted by the centuries of breeding among the same stock.

PAGAN9JA:

Please who are you kidding?

What use is appreciation when it stands chance of losing practice?

Is our culture a masquerade or something?


and how is it good from genetic point of view? I believe it brings about newer diseases. I as a full-blooded African Hausa man feel more immune,stronger and resistant than a mixed oyinbo.

Note: No one is talking baout marrying blood relatives. Let us just marry within our tribes and expand ourselves.

I understand you absolutely, but I have to disagree with you on this one..



Diversity isn't always a bad thing.

rickkid: And in addition, in the interest of building a national identity which is stronger than ethnic affiliation, intermixing is key. This is one of the reasons why the youth service scheme was created. Incidentally, I met my fiancee in camp during NYSC. Why is there less ethnic-based violence in Southern Africa compared to West and Central/East Africa? Because after centuries of mixing, they're all practically the same people now. An Ndebele from Zimbabwe can understand the language of a Xhosa in South Africa or a Kalanga from Malawi. They get on a whole lot better than us up here.

it isn't all positive though, some don't have a sense of identity like the west and central Africa

There is good and bad in both sides of the argument

some like to mix and some don't

Okijajuju1:


I understand you absolutely, but I have to disagree with you on this one..



Diversity isn't always a bad thing.

How will there be diversity in the future when every one becomes mixed?

Take Nigeria for example, imagine all our tribes destroyed. no more igbo vs Yoruba e-war.

no more different Nigerian Tribal cultures, from Igbos to Yorubas , to Hausa all the way upto Marghi.


Instead only 1 black people without any culture or identities. it is depressing.

PAGAN9JA:



You just saw the example of the quoted person.

pidgin is a lingua franca not spoken only by mixed people.

its origins are from trade between europeans and blacks, not blacks who are mixed tribe.

so how does someone speaking pidgin become a big issue like you are making it to be?

Danhumprey: My own na Efik and Annang.

You are not mixed.

hardbody:

At this time of the day, my brain needs rebooting. I did not quite understand your post, may i request that you re-couch your question.

Were you in anyway asking whether i was full igbo/efik at any point in time?

yes i was.

Omo YORUIGBO ni mi swaaaaaaaaaagger!

egopersonified:

Are you my long lost step father ni?

I don't have to be to teach you how to spell properly in your language. You cannot end any edo name with a "r" following an "o" to make the "or" sound. The alphabet already has a letter for that which is the O with a tonal mark underneath. Won't charge you for this lesson. Go in peace.

tpia1:

pidgin is a lingua franca not spoken only by mixed people.

its origins are from trade between europeans and blacks, not blacks who are mixed tribe.

so how does someone speaking pidgin become a big issue like you are making it to be?

You missed the point.

Mixed people will generally chose to opt for a general culture or a National/International Identity. usually english or pidgin in Nigeria.

Chiamaka01: Hi, there. If your parents are Nigerian but from different tribes, maybe Itsekiri and Igbo, Yoruba and Hausa, Efik and Fulani, this thread is for you. Just share some of your experiences having relatives from various tribes.

Dad's Hausa, Mum Ibo.. true story

suyu:

Actually they have, I know a girl whose mother is yoruba and father hausa and there are others

small numbers but they exist

they're actually plenty but most likely are hausa, especially if they grew up in the north. Pagan is just trying to spread misinformation.

Hausa intermarry a lot, with virtually any tribe.

PAGAN9JA:


How will there be diversity in the future when every one becomes mixed?

Take Nigeria for example, imagine all our tribes destroyed. no more igbo vs Yoruba e-war.

no more different Nigerian Tribal cultures, from Igbos to Yorubas , to Hausa all the way upto Marghi.


Instead only 1 black people without any culture or identities. it is depressing.

chill Pagan, most Nigerians marry within their tribe and most mixed nigerian are 0.05% and get absorbed into larger tribes anyway

Dad : Ekiti
Mama : Anambra [ understands Yoruba like a true indigene to an extent she now has trouble keeping up with her mom when she speaks Igbo]
Maternal Grandma hated Yorubas but realised my dad's a betta suitor compared to his Igbo counterparts
Maternal Grandpa : Best Igbo I have ever known
I : mixed psychological physically and linguistically .

Its hard enough to practice 1 culture. (If you fully practice it)

Now imagine trying to balance 2,3,4 or even 6 cultures (if you are 3rd generation hybrid). Its not possible or plausible for that matter.

rahazaqa: Mr Man go and settle this among your parents or family not here!!

How does this concern you and who told you we have anything to settle? It is just an experience and if you cannot comprehend same, kindly ignore rather than expose your self on here.

PAGAN9JA:


You missed the point.

Mixed people will generally chose to opt for a general culture or a National/International Identity. usually english or pidgin in Nigeria.

heritage in nigeria is patrilineal, with relatively few exceptions.

Bryan12: Igbo+Yoruba=terrible combination.#proudlyIgbo tho

Thunder fire you! Everything about you will be terrible IJN! Oloshious anoufia!