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Re: NMA Dares Jonathan - Asks Resident Doctors To Reject Sack Letters by echarlz(m): 10:12pm On Aug 15, 2014 |
One true Nigerian with no envy or hatred for docs be like...." Whereas GEJ is the one Nigerians are supposed to give sack letter" This country is full of ironies...smh |
Re: NMA Dares Jonathan - Asks Resident Doctors To Reject Sack Letters by Nobody: 10:12pm On Aug 15, 2014 |
eaglechild: Why act surprised? Shey u want to make money? You guys are not different from the heartless and greedy politicians who only care about money and not the people they want to serve. Unfortunately for u, politics is the get rich quick profession not medicine. Feel free to switch d coat for d agbada. 4 Likes |
Re: NMA Dares Jonathan - Asks Resident Doctors To Reject Sack Letters by maestroferddi: 10:13pm On Aug 15, 2014 |
Dreambeat: Fashola did not win anything. Don't let me go into the details of what happened. We have to fight this battle now once and for all for the good of the populace and the progress of the health sector in this country. A lot of people are just so uninformed about what is going on in our government hospitals, those that are, choose to take side against doctors out of sentiment. Things can not just continue the way they are right now. The hospitals are in a big mess. I know how many times I have had to walk and sometimes run to the theatre to BEG for disposable gloves to work with. Lots of things are just not right in our training centres especially.Oga leave that thing... The attitude of doctors in Nigeria is indicative of the parlous state of affairs in Nigeria. How can doctors suddenly constitute themselves into mavericks accountable to no-one? They are asking for heaven and earth and yet continually fall behindhand in discharging their responsibilities. Go to our public hospitals and see their near irresponsible conduct. If it is not their aloofness to patients, then it is their tardiness in attending to emergency cases and catering to general patient well-being. I don't even want to broach the case of the conflict of interest of remaining employed whilst running parallel private practice normally within the precincts of their places of work. What would happen if nurses (who by the way do most of the work) and other health workers allow themselves get bitten by the same bug of avarice that doctors have been susceptible to? Those who want to join politics should drop their stethoscopes and enter the fray. Enough of the charade! 8 Likes |
Re: NMA Dares Jonathan - Asks Resident Doctors To Reject Sack Letters by Sunshinelady(f): 10:16pm On Aug 15, 2014 |
bushdoc9919:. Even wit all dese long epistle, u pple can't treat ebola (or at least maintain it like ur counterparts abroad), mortality rate in hospitals especially durin childbirth keep increasin (dats y most rich ppl travel out for their child delivery), even common organ transplant dats rampart in other countries una no sabi, so wats d use of all dese ..bla bla..u did 5yrs here, 20yrs here ..etc. We need practical thins, we need to see d effect of dis u pple's 'superiority complex', we r not seein it. I don't knw ..I don't want to beliv dis is like..empty vessels makin too much noise..I don't. But somtimes too much words aint necessary, d best way to xpress self worth, is by being practically effective, u pple are so lettin us down 3 Likes |
Re: NMA Dares Jonathan - Asks Resident Doctors To Reject Sack Letters by ModoetForma(m): 10:17pm On Aug 15, 2014 |
It only shows how frail jonathan government is to the extent of the citizens of the country he rules daring him. This is serious and I wonder what the NMA is feeling like and who they think they are. There are thousands of nigerians out there seeking medical attention but to no avail all thanks to the foolishne ss and selfishness of these so called doctors striking in the name of wanting consultants to be given to them only and not pharmacist and nurses, striking in the name of needing a chief surgeon general of the federal republic of nigeria. Who the hell needs a chief surgeon general, that's ceremonial. I'm in full support of jonathan,if I we're president, I'll sack these people, seize their license and execute the chief orchestrators one by one. 6 Likes |
Re: NMA Dares Jonathan - Asks Resident Doctors To Reject Sack Letters by prettyprettywow: 10:20pm On Aug 15, 2014 |
After residency training, don't drs go out to search for jobs? Are they permanent emploees in the THs they are being trained? Why do we have specialist Drs in private hospitals who throw parties for getting Govt jobs? were they absorbed in the hospital they did their residencies? If you think i don't know what I'm sayinf, maybe you can explainl dalhat14: 3 Likes |
Re: NMA Dares Jonathan - Asks Resident Doctors To Reject Sack Letters by Morotov1(m): 10:23pm On Aug 15, 2014 |
dalhat14:Please stop exposing your lack of knowledge on these issue. Are residents permanent staff? NO Rather MO's and consultants are. Do you even bother to read your terms of contract as was spelled out in your appointment letter as a resident? 5 Likes |
Re: NMA Dares Jonathan - Asks Resident Doctors To Reject Sack Letters by allycat: 10:33pm On Aug 15, 2014 |
When is GET going to sack consultants |
Re: NMA Dares Jonathan - Asks Resident Doctors To Reject Sack Letters by Sunshinelady(f): 10:36pm On Aug 15, 2014 |
Dreambeat: Reminds me of a lady who called me sometime back at about 3am while I was sleeping complaining of abdominal pain and severe diarrhea. Funniest thing was that she was even residing in a far away state from where I was. I had to start prescribing drugs at that hour of the night FOC.Only God knows where she got the medication that night. She might even be one of these NLs castigating doctors here. U prescribed drugs for a patient..big deal, don't u hav pple of other professions u run to too, don't u run to ur mechanical engr wen ur car develops fault? Don't u run to a lawyer wen u hav somtin legal to settle, don't u run to ur pastor wen u hav spiritual problems?, don't u run to d market to buy stuff from businessmen/women? Do u see dem com out to broadcast/boast about it? Pls grow up 10 Likes |
Re: NMA Dares Jonathan - Asks Resident Doctors To Reject Sack Letters by Arosam(m): 10:36pm On Aug 15, 2014 |
Its not as if Government is not aware of the 'miga' hazard allowance been given to Doctors and other Health workers, this and other are 20percent realisable demands among the demands of the NMA, the other 80percent if given will undermine the position of other health workers, its not done anywhere in the world, NMA ought to have been fighting for every health workers and paving ways for international practices. I thank God Nigerians have much access to informations now, unlike before they have improved analytic power in dealing with situations, 'you don't rob peter to pay paul' both of them has their needs, the only way out is to balance it. God bless Nigeria 2 Likes |
Re: NMA Dares Jonathan - Asks Resident Doctors To Reject Sack Letters by hercules07: 10:37pm On Aug 15, 2014 |
I believe the Government should accede to the requests of the Doctors that border on remuneration and condition of service (equipment etc), other conditions that are administrative or affect other health workers should be at the discretion of the Government, Doctors are not the be all and end all of the Health sector, they are a component relevant as others are. 1 Like |
Re: NMA Dares Jonathan - Asks Resident Doctors To Reject Sack Letters by Sunshinelady(f): 10:40pm On Aug 15, 2014 |
prettyprettywow: but they said that ALL the 24 DEMANDS must be met, which include the ones involving other health workers.. Tank u |
Re: NMA Dares Jonathan - Asks Resident Doctors To Reject Sack Letters by maestroferddi: 10:41pm On Aug 15, 2014 |
Dreambeat: Reminds me of a lady who called me sometime back at about 3am while I was sleeping complaining of abdominal pain and severe diarrhea. Funniest thing was that she was even residing in a far away state from where I was. I had to start prescribing drugs at that hour of the night FOC.Only God knows where she got the medication that night. She might even be one of these NLs castigating doctors hereYou make me laugh. So for just obliging your patient with an off-hand prescription you are gloating over the whole thing? It is still you guys that would begin to whine when patients patronise roadside chemists... I was following thinking you bought the drugs FOC for the patient. I tire... Must everything turn to gold for we Nigerians? Make una remember...daris God o!!! 6 Likes |
Re: NMA Dares Jonathan - Asks Resident Doctors To Reject Sack Letters by eaglechild: 10:41pm On Aug 15, 2014 |
Sunshinelady: . Even wit all dese long epistle, u pple can't treat ebola (or at least maintain it like ur counterparts abroad), mortality rate in hospitals especially durin childbirth keep increasin (dats y most rich ppl travel out for their child delivery), even common organ transplant dats rampart in other countries una no sabi, so wats d use of all dese ..bla bla..u did 5yrs here, 20yrs here ..etc. We need practical thins, we need to see d effect of dis u pple's 'superiority complex', we r not seein it. I don't knw ..I don't want to beliv dis is like..empty vessels makin too much noise..I don't. But somtimes too much words aint necessary, d best way to xpress self worth, is by being practically effective, u pple are so lettin us down Crap Mortality for booked cases in tertiary hospitals where residency training is done is close to zero in some centers. Most Obs mortality are from unbooked cases that have been mismanaged by traditional birth attendants and midwives who now present late to the hospital. Everyone knows why people spend money to go abroad to give birth- citizenship. The rest of what you wrote is irredeemably off point. 6 Likes |
Re: NMA Dares Jonathan - Asks Resident Doctors To Reject Sack Letters by dalhat14(m): 10:42pm On Aug 15, 2014 |
prettyprettywow: After residency training, don't drs go out to search for jobs? Are they permanent emploees in the THs they are being trained? Why do we have specialist Drs in private hospitals who throw parties for getting Govt jobs? were they absorbed in the hospital they did their residencies? If you think i don't know what I'm sayinf, maybe you can explainlI'm not arguing the permanent staff status of residents, of course they aren't permanent staff, it's the ignorance of people who think MOs can simply be brought in to replace residents that is comical to me, how would an MO even if he's got 10 years of experience do the job of a senior registrar or even a registrar inAnaesthesia or ENT which are highly skilled fields, what's not possible isn't possible 5 Likes |
Re: NMA Dares Jonathan - Asks Resident Doctors To Reject Sack Letters by Nobody: 10:45pm On Aug 15, 2014 |
saints2: Let the battle beginwhen two elephants/government fight, the grasses/masses suffer. |
Re: NMA Dares Jonathan - Asks Resident Doctors To Reject Sack Letters by Sunshinelady(f): 10:47pm On Aug 15, 2014 |
prettyprettywow: call Drs on phone, and they diagnose your ailment and prescribe via phone without physical examination and lab investigations?. Lol. I weep for una. Drs are indeed 'small gods'. What the Drs are now fighting for is their jobs and not the 24 commandments again. This life get as E be sha. NMA called for the outsourcing of other health care professionals aside Drs, now whose services have been outsourced? What goes around comes around. When hunger go don wire una for 1-2 months, una go hear am.. 1000likes |
Re: NMA Dares Jonathan - Asks Resident Doctors To Reject Sack Letters by Nobody: 10:54pm On Aug 15, 2014 |
Sunshinelady: . Even wit all dese long epistle, u pple can't treat ebola (or at least maintain it like ur counterparts abroad), mortality rate in hospitals especially durin childbirth keep increasin (dats y most rich ppl travel out for their child delivery), even common organ transplant dats rampart in other countries una no sabi, so wats d use of all dese ..bla bla..u did 5yrs here, 20yrs here ..etc. We need practical thins, we need to see d effect of dis u pple's 'superiority complex', we r not seein it. I don't knw ..I don't want to beliv dis is like..empty vessels makin too much noise..I don't. But somtimes too much words aint necessary, d best way to xpress self worth, is by being practically effective, u pple are so lettin us downdnt blame the doctors blame the system, they all boils down to the govt, the education system sucks and definitely produces half baked docs. 2 Likes |
Re: NMA Dares Jonathan - Asks Resident Doctors To Reject Sack Letters by Sunshinelady(f): 10:58pm On Aug 15, 2014 |
johnbosco97: [color=#006600][/color]. Dis is one thin dat disgusts me about dese drs, dey lov to shine wit people's problems (just as dey r tryin to take advantage of dis ebola scourge). Mayb one day wen u don't hav a dime in ur pocket, wit all ur money in d bank, u ll queue up to withdraw money (to pay ur children's fees & feed ur family) , d banker (anoda nebo of urs) will make u crawl, kneel, beg & sweat from ur balls b4 he/she issues u d money , so dat u ll also learn a big lesson u ll never 4get. #no man is indispensible# 4 Likes |
Re: NMA Dares Jonathan - Asks Resident Doctors To Reject Sack Letters by Sunshinelady(f): 11:00pm On Aug 15, 2014 |
MT: Its so interesting how doctors are coming up with detailed analysis of what residency is all about. Thank you for that , not that we never knew before. But get this straight, medical sector is about to be strategically repositioned and FG has all the aces.. Surely resdency will be reinstated but on a very new term that will remove all the existing excesses. Its going to be a take-it or leave-it kind of a thing. Doctors can't be holding the nation and other professionals to ransom. This corrective action by Jonathan is welcome. |
Re: NMA Dares Jonathan - Asks Resident Doctors To Reject Sack Letters by Sunshinelady(f): 11:01pm On Aug 15, 2014 |
Malawian:. Hahaha don't mind dat mmeee |
Re: NMA Dares Jonathan - Asks Resident Doctors To Reject Sack Letters by Sunshinelady(f): 11:09pm On Aug 15, 2014 |
Adiwana: people really think being intelligent is sweeping As&Bs..well thats not that..am not in the medical line,buh my mum who's a nurse prescribes drugs via phone so don't tell me that..so wat u telling me that is if u have running stomach,dat ur family doc cant prescribe drugs for u via telephone...na wa oo!!. Dat ur mum does it doesn't mean its right. Even a native dr can tell u 'oya take dis & dat' thru phone, dat doesn't mean its right, neither does it guarantee ur recovery after engaging in d said drug abuse 2 Likes |
Re: NMA Dares Jonathan - Asks Resident Doctors To Reject Sack Letters by maestroferddi: 11:10pm On Aug 15, 2014 |
odeotito: Considering the fact that residency was put in place by an Act of the national assembly it can't be abolished by executive fiat. Methinks the executive order is null and void cause it s ultra vires its powers! Get a lawyer fast!ultra vires ko fait accompli ni It appears you do not know that the doctors have frittered the remaining goodwill they have left with the generality of Nigerians. Probably you are not privy to the concerted effort made by the Senate and House committees on health to persuade this recalcitrant doctors to embrace objectivity and common sense. I am sure the National Assembly is highly miffed that all entreaties made to the doctors to suspend the strike fell on deaf ears. So who would listen to them again? I hope they beat a hasty retreat as soon as possible and stop pushing their luck. You win some, you lose some... 5 Likes |
Re: NMA Dares Jonathan - Asks Resident Doctors To Reject Sack Letters by AODT(m): 11:25pm On Aug 15, 2014 |
laplace12: If the other countries they run to for health matters treat their doctors the way we do or even encouraging FG, I wonder where would have been left to go for medical attention. Unfortunately no government official or any other their relative recieves medical attention in this Country |
Re: NMA Dares Jonathan - Asks Resident Doctors To Reject Sack Letters by thandii1: 11:31pm On Aug 15, 2014 |
maestroferddi: You make me laugh. So for just obliging your patient with an off-hand prescription you are gloating over the whole thing? You can just imagine him gloating over that when he only did one part in making the patient feel better. The other part done by the pharmacist\chemist. I wonder how the society would be like if every professional decides to boast over their importance. How would they all move about without engineers, how would they funtion well without farmers, market women and traders, how would they even attain that stage without teachers? how would the surgeries they carry our heal perfectly without the nurses' care and monitoring for the patients when they move to the wards ? How would tests be carried out for diagnosis without the scientists? How will the patients feel better without taking medications? Or the ones that need physio for months to improve? Until doctors stop deluding themselves that they are supreme beings, the health sector will continue to fall apart. Another point they make that amuses me is 'the masses will suffer for their refusal to work, some even laugh at that thought and I ask, who makes up the masses? Are their families and loved ones not part of these masses? Also, Are the doctors themselves immune to bomblasts and accidents and terminal illnesses? Like someone said earlier, 2nurses have lost their lives to this ebola outbreak and we are yet to see them tear the world apart. I can only imagine if the deaths had been that of 2doctors. I thought people studied medicine for passion and service, to save lives, it used to be a noble profession, but these generation of doctors are in it primarily for money and self importance- to be worshipped. Its such a shame. 7 Likes |
Re: NMA Dares Jonathan - Asks Resident Doctors To Reject Sack Letters by maestroferddi: 11:31pm On Aug 15, 2014 |
johnbosco97: [color=#006600][/color]Forget this cheap boast of yours abeg. The last time I checked life thrives on the collective effort of all professionals be they lawyers, engineers, doctors, nurses, teachers, law enforcement personnel, accountants etc. If any of the tentacles of the octopoid were to hold the rest to ransom, then the entire unit would fail. If engineers were to refuse to provide power to drive medical machines and equipment, or nurses elect not to attend to patients or still pharmacists decide not to manufacture or prescribe medication, how would doctors find the expression to be playing God? Abeg we have enough issues in this land to be perturbed by petty self-importance. Doctors should ensure that the deference they enjoy in society doesn't get eroded by this penchant for filthy lucre... 5 Likes |
Re: NMA Dares Jonathan - Asks Resident Doctors To Reject Sack Letters by ocelot2006(m): 11:36pm On Aug 15, 2014 |
Sunshinelady: . Even wit all dese long epistle, u pple can't treat ebola (or at least maintain it like ur counterparts abroad), mortality rate in hospitals especially durin childbirth keep increasin (dats y most rich ppl travel out for their child delivery), even common organ transplant dats rampart in other countries una no sabi, so wats d use of all dese ..bla bla..u did 5yrs here, 20yrs here ..etc. We need practical thins, we need to see d effect of dis u pple's 'superiority complex', we r not seein it. I don't knw ..I don't want to beliv dis is like..empty vessels makin too much noise..I don't. But somtimes too much words aint necessary, d best way to xpress self worth, is by being practically effective, u pple are so lettin us down Sure, because the resident doctors will use their salaries to upgrade our health sector and provide all the much needed tools with their meagre allowances, abi? Btw, you do know there's still no proven cure for Ebola (z-mapp is experimental), right? No? Yet come here yapping and sadly displaying your ignorance here for all to see. Guy, u just fcked up real bad. 4 Likes |
Re: NMA Dares Jonathan - Asks Resident Doctors To Reject Sack Letters by maestroferddi: 11:37pm On Aug 15, 2014 |
Malawian:Oga you get bad mouth die... |
Re: NMA Dares Jonathan - Asks Resident Doctors To Reject Sack Letters by Nobody: 11:39pm On Aug 15, 2014 |
TRADELYN: WE urge the FG to use better means in resolving this issue, rather than applying force. This is just another empty/baseless threat.bros, this is not an empty threat o! They have been sacked for real. I'd advice all resident doctors to apply for jobs elsewhere since u want to bite the fingers that fed u. Must everybody be govt worker? Govt no good, but una no wan leave govt work. The one month salary been paid to you guys should be saved for postin ur CV's to different hospitals/clinics/lab/chemist or even bakery. 4 Likes |
Re: NMA Dares Jonathan - Asks Resident Doctors To Reject Sack Letters by johnbosco97(m): 11:40pm On Aug 15, 2014 |
[color=#006600][/color] ModoetForma: It only shows how frail jonathan government is to the extent of the citizens of the country he rules daring him. This is serious and I wonder what the NMA is feeling like and who they think they are. There are thousands of nigerians out there seeking medical attention but to no avail all thanks to the foolishne ss and selfishness of these so called doctors striking in the name of wanting consultants to be given to them only and not pharmacist and nurses, striking in the name of needing a chief surgeon general of the federal republic of nigeria. Who the hell needs a chief surgeon general, that's ceremonial. I'm in full support of jonathan,if I we're president, I'll sack these people, seize their license and execute the chief orchestrators one by one. It shows how shallow minded you are. After executing them, u will take all sick Nigerians for medical tourism in India. Nigerians actually deserve the kind of l eaders they have. 3 Likes |
Re: NMA Dares Jonathan - Asks Resident Doctors To Reject Sack Letters by prettyprettywow: 11:41pm On Aug 15, 2014 |
AODT:They get their medical care abroad, so they know what is obtainable there. They know the roles of other health care providers. They also know that the Dr is not all and all like the naija Drs are making the public to believe. They know that the Drs claim of jack of all thread master of non is unfounded, and that other medical workers have critical roles to play in patient management 1 Like |
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