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Re: On Nigerian Women And (lack Of) Future Ambition by bayulll01(m): 8:52pm On Sep 22, 2014
melissa429: Thank u for wakin me up,actualy nid 2 retink afta my so cald fiance pregnanted anoda gal,nid to get bizi makin moni,men ar jus a waste of tym nd resourseful tinkin
eyah so it takes safari epistle to wake u up,sorry for the broken hearth that guy is a jerk,anyway make i replace i wont shatter ur hearth
Re: On Nigerian Women And (lack Of) Future Ambition by alaladakosta(f): 8:52pm On Sep 22, 2014
But Seriously yoruba men are are lazy, low life , losers. They don't have no future plans, am not saying all of them, cus am Yoruba. But many of them give up easily.

Shutout to ma ibo brothers, men nigga can go any lent to make a change. Drug, rituals name it.

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Re: On Nigerian Women And (lack Of) Future Ambition by safarigirl(f): 8:53pm On Sep 22, 2014
rickkid: I was wondering which Nigeria the OP was on about Certainly not this Nigeria I know where everybody is hustling to achieve their dream. Where I work, about 65% of the staff are women and many of them are single, some are married, some even have kids - it doesn't stop them from working. Even from my mother's generation women have not been slacking I mean for heavens sake my mum was making more money than my dad when they got married and this was in 1976! What on earth is the OP talking about??

Lol safarigirl maybe you just surround yourself with very lazy people. No woman I know is content to find husband and make babies.
like I said, I hear this within female hostels.

Every woman wants to be pampered at first, but when they don't get that, they settle for whatever can get them monthly salaries.

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Re: On Nigerian Women And (lack Of) Future Ambition by tpia1: 8:53pm On Sep 22, 2014
dokunbam: Ladies again


nothing new.
Re: On Nigerian Women And (lack Of) Future Ambition by Nobody: 8:53pm On Sep 22, 2014
rickkid: I was wondering which Nigeria the OP was on about Certainly not this Nigeria I know where everybody is hustling to achieve their dream. Where I work, about 65% of the staff are women and many of them are single, some are married, some even have kids - it doesn't stop them from working. Even from my mother's generation women have not been slacking I mean for heavens sake my mum was making more money than my dad when they got married and this was in 1976! What on earth is the OP talking about??

Lol safarigirl maybe you just surround yourself with very lazy people. No woman I know is content to find husband and make babies.
go to the government institutions where you have got the masses .... u ll understand.... you talking about women of those days not the modern day girls. After all , the richest woman in nigeria was a tailor, she was doing that to help her hubby ... but see where she is today.

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Re: On Nigerian Women And (lack Of) Future Ambition by Nobody: 8:54pm On Sep 22, 2014
freecocoa: As in eh, the thing dey pain me die.

The other day in a bus, we were held by traffic and somehow everyone got engaged in a conversation, at a point we brought up women and work, Omo you need to hear what these women were saying, they even went as far as saying that successful women don't respect their husbands, I just weak.

IT IS JUST SADDENINGsadIT'S LIKE THEIR MENTALITY IS STUCK IN THE 18TH CENTURYsad

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Re: On Nigerian Women And (lack Of) Future Ambition by Nobody: 8:54pm On Sep 22, 2014
bayulll01:
the only thing i like about u is ur eloquent and good command of english
I just don't like a girl who is unreasonable and leeches , I will dump her 1trillion times even with few cash for her to just go and lemme be !!!
Re: On Nigerian Women And (lack Of) Future Ambition by xp17(m): 8:54pm On Sep 22, 2014
@safarigirl, in as much I don't have problems with women being ambitious, but a little bit would be okay. unlike men, women have more caring and organized nature, they pay more attention to details when it comes down to domestic issues, hence they should be closer to the home, irrespective of their ambitions.

personally, I'll hand over all the sensitive responsibilities to my wife, especially in the areas of monitoring the kids change in behavior, spending more time with the kids in other to prevent them from roaming up and down the street, like sheep without a Shepard, and making the family planning. if she can do those, I careless whatever she does with the rest of her time, as long as she not putting the family interest in line, on the pursuit of her goals.


for women: family first , then ambition follows

for men: use your ambition to secure your family, because women hate broke a'ss guys

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Re: On Nigerian Women And (lack Of) Future Ambition by Sepp360(m): 8:54pm On Sep 22, 2014
niggereyez: OP... sorry but I don't totally agree wit u. if u keep the right company (no offence intended), u'll know that there are many more visionary women in our society today..
truelly, gone are those days when women are satisfied being just housewives.
are u tryin to tell us dat u keep "total" good company?

Anyways, u dont need to agree with her totally. Just take the reasonable and candid advice if u wish.

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Re: On Nigerian Women And (lack Of) Future Ambition by tpia1: 8:55pm On Sep 22, 2014
Where I work, about 65% of the staff are women and many of them are single, some are married, some even have kids - it doesn't stop them from working. Even from my mother's generation women have not been slacking. What on earth is the OP talking about??

good question.

In some countries, women actually have a higher employment rate than men.


the percentage of female staff in most organizations, imo should be closer to 80%.
Re: On Nigerian Women And (lack Of) Future Ambition by Benbisco(f): 8:56pm On Sep 22, 2014
[/quote]In as much as much as this is true to an extent I feel its not common to all females and also their men also have a role to play.

Some girls are ambitous but they need a little push from someone which I think can come from their husbands. Me for one always look forward to improving myself academically and my husband has told me the last he will do with his money is to establish a biz outfit for me so I got to work!

[quote author=safarigirl] If you're one who has stayed within the female hostel of any Nigerian University, you'll find that most of it's occupants share similar hopes and dreams- and no, it's not to excel in their chosen career paths.

One of the lecturers in my school aptly described women as 'a waste of education'...no, it wasn't an insult, it was just stating the obvious. You find a woman who has hustled through primary, secondary and University education. One who looked set to be a force to reckon with in the world of business or law or medicine, I mean a female with straight A's and you think Nigerian women may be getting things right, only to follow her back to her hostel and hear these heart-breaking words:

"Omo, after school na to find husband marry remain."

In the real sense of the word this is translated to:

"After school, I'll fling my degee inside one iron box in my dad's storeroom, find a perfect mugu that will put a ring on my finger, buy me a car, set up a boutique/beauty saloon for me and all I have to do to get this is spread my legs for him and push out little people with his DNA"

Nigerian women view marriage the same way hustling Nigerian men view the US Green Card- an avenue to escape life's troubles. So in the same way you find 23 year old Nigerian men marrying 56 year old American women, you find young, promising women relegated to some man's priority list.

I don't think most Nigerian women realise that nobody wants to get attached to a leech. If you allow some Nigerian women, they would even want their husbands to carry the babies and birth them as well. And when you ask why they don't want to build wealth with a man, you hear:

"I've already suffered in my father's house. I don't want to continue suffering in my husband's house"

Now unless you're getting married to a no-good leech like yourself, there is no reason why building wealth with a man should be termed 'suffering'

Even on Sun Newspaper's 'Beauty Of The Week' it's the same thing.

Future Ambition: Getting Married And Having Kids

If you think God put you on this earth to make a liability of yourself, you need to think again. There is more to life than being someone's baby mama. There is a purpose for getting an education that lies beyond being able to speak good english whenever you and your man attend social functions

Nigerian women need to sit down and re-evaluate their lives. God sent you to assist a man, not to add to his problems. Men appreciate women who can think for themselves, who want to contribute to the family (and I don't mean churning out kids). There is nothing more endearing than a smart woman who views men as companions rather than money bags.


Don't waste the education your parents worked so hard to provide for you. Break the stereotype, Nigerian women should be more than gold-digging leeches. If the likes of Oby Ezekwesili, Joke Silva, NOI can be successful career women as well as wives and mothers, then we all need to dust up our certificates and CVs and have proper future ambitions.


God Bless You...and don't take this the wrong way grin
Re: On Nigerian Women And (lack Of) Future Ambition by Nobody: 8:56pm On Sep 22, 2014
alaladakosta: But Seriously yoruba men are are lazy, low life , losers. They don't have no future plans, am not saying all of them, cus am Yoruba. But many of them give up easily.

Shutout to ma ibo brothers, men nigga can go any lent to make a change. Drug, rituals name it.
you envisage illegal life. does it last ? prolly the yoruba's u met ... adenuga , okoya, kase lawal, jimoh ibrahim and many loads are yorubas.

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Re: On Nigerian Women And (lack Of) Future Ambition by Nobody: 8:57pm On Sep 22, 2014
safarigirl: well, the likes of Genevieve and Linda Ikeji that aren't married are not asking anyone to drop CVs.

I'm not asking anyone to believe me, this isn't about me, this is about the Nigerian woman and it isn't about you and whatever you believe cuz your beliefs are of little or no importance to me and women who want to make something of themselves.

So here's me throwing your 'beliefs' straight out the window

Who mentioned anything about beliefs?

Just so you don't know, I'll tell you now. You wrote this because you felt you were different. You felt you aren't like any of the many Nigerian women you are writing about. And I'm telling you now, your words are baseless until you actually live it out. On your realizing it, I'll give you a 1 in 10 chance. And don't sweat it, i don't have to know you to do that. There's been thousands before you who thought marriage was for the second class lady, who thought their careers were more important than the rich men that came their way. Guess what? They chewed their words. So I'm really just being generous with my 1in 10.

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Re: On Nigerian Women And (lack Of) Future Ambition by Kossyne(m): 8:57pm On Sep 22, 2014
Nice post. Coherently and aptly written. To say that I am impressed is an understatement especially coming from a woman.

Women keep complaining of being marginalized but they are the ones marginalizing themselves. People can't value you unless you add value to yourself.

Kudos to the OP, you couldn't have said it any better.

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Re: On Nigerian Women And (lack Of) Future Ambition by Nobody: 8:57pm On Sep 22, 2014
Naija Babes:
They want a rich ewu gambia who'll give em shawarma morning,noon and morning again. Buy them a ferrari,give them hermes handbag,brazillian hair,loboutin heels and diamond encrusted rings while they apply mary kay and watch Keeping up with the Kardashians on E!

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Re: On Nigerian Women And (lack Of) Future Ambition by jennylove7575(f): 8:58pm On Sep 22, 2014
I don't blame these Nigerian women, the society and their background are parts of the contributing factors.. Nigeria society is masculine dominated society. Men in Nigeria get away with lots of misdeeds against women.. If you look deeply into the societal norms and values you will see clearly that Nigerian women are seen as second class and Nigerian men rules. All these, boils down to the society man made culture and tradition.
90% of Nigerian women learnt from their parent that marriage is the final bustop and procreation caps it all. Therefore, A career ambitious woman is labelled loose, promiscuous, and unmarriageable.
Yes statistics shows that many female Nigerian university undergraduate students don't take studies too seriously because they have lost confidents of pursuing their career further due to their personal believes, mentality and orientation to start a family for security and to have a voice in the society as well as respect.

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Re: On Nigerian Women And (lack Of) Future Ambition by Nobody: 8:58pm On Sep 22, 2014
xp17: @safarigirl, in as much I don't have problems with women being ambitious, but a little bit would be okay. unlike men, women have more caring and organized nature, they pay more attention to details when it comes down to domestic issues, hence they should be closer to the home, irrespective of their ambitions.

personally, I'll hand over all the sensitive responsibilities to my wife, especially in the areas of monitoring the kids change in behavior, spending more time with the kids in other to prevent them from roaming up and down the street, like sheep without a Shepard, and making the family planning. if she can do those, I careless whatever she does with the rest of her time, as long as she not putting the family interest in the line, in the pursuit of her goals.


for women: family first , then ambition follows

for men: use your ambition to secure your family, because women hate broke a'ss guys
the family is the responsibility of the both of you.there are ways to train kids without jeopardising the dreams of ur wfe.

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Re: On Nigerian Women And (lack Of) Future Ambition by bayulll01(m): 8:58pm On Sep 22, 2014
pansophist: This thread makes me wonder if it the same safarigirl that opened a thread yesterday about why 'Nigerian ladies should not settle for less''

You fail to see that they have nothing to offer, wonder if you did a brain ugrade, because this your topic make so much sense compare to the latter.
u know after receiving so much bashing yesterday she decide to drop the stupiidity running in her head,anyway she try abi,but one thing i know about nija babes is they are too dull to comprehend what she wrote,even safari seff na frustration of not finding a Tall guy wey go like am thats why shes she dey write all these poo!!!

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Re: On Nigerian Women And (lack Of) Future Ambition by GodMode: 8:58pm On Sep 22, 2014
zizazizu: It is difficult to think outside that line. Women live in an environment where they are viewed as that, told as that and expected to behave as that. In fact, to go outside that line of thought would be considered unafrican. But that is where this article is apt. If u think like others, u lose ur own identity. Nice one op.

Stop commenting rubbish.

This has nothing to do with culture/tradition.. Its the mind set of the woman that matters.
Re: On Nigerian Women And (lack Of) Future Ambition by Nobody: 8:59pm On Sep 22, 2014
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Re: On Nigerian Women And (lack Of) Future Ambition by touchmeder: 9:00pm On Sep 22, 2014
I don't know how some of us are interpreting what op has stated. I don't think she is saying marriage versus a successful independent woman. So let's not go picking one or the other. It is possible to have both (if you so desire). Let's not be tempted to make husband's house and kids our only goal with your numerous qualifications and business ideas sitting pretty n gathering dust. Don't get too comfortable n 4get ur dreams n aspirations u once had. Get up and do something, add value, make urself useful, make ur husband proud while you remain loyal and humble.

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Re: On Nigerian Women And (lack Of) Future Ambition by thandii1: 9:01pm On Sep 22, 2014
sauer:
As much as i like to hear talks like this, i rarely believe the women, especially Nigerian women, who churn out these concepts. You girls can so scream on paper like you are sure of yourselves and will always put your career ahead of any other thing.

But when it all comes down to it, one finds out you really don't have that stomach. Yes, you clearly don't. The ones who chicken out mostly are those educated in Nigeria, cultured in an environment that makes them second-class citizens.

I say it and stand on it. I'm yet to see that Nigerian girl who cares so much about her career to want to keep marriage at bay. Do you actually realize that okonjo-iweala's surgeon husband was cheating on her and was even blackmailed while at it? How many of you girls have the stomach for that? How many of you are not so carried away by that fantasy of 'my husband this' my husband that', 'happily ever after', 'no divorce', 'golden wedding'. All bull.s.hit without boundary.

Safarigirl, abi what do they call you. It's not enough to type the words. After you have walked the talk, write a book and then buzz me!

@ 1st bolded, I agree and that is why it doesn't hurt to read this write up of hers once in a while as a reminder.

@2nd bolded, of course there are, but when they do so, they are called names mocked and ridiculed, the society wouldn't let them breathe. There will always be that reminder both from the male and female folks that they are incomplete. Only a few can stomach such in this hostile environment of Nigeria, but those few still exist. These are the unmarried ones.

The ones that manage to get married with their eyes still fixed on their career(and are not ready to settle for less) are faced with challenges from the society, husband, inlaws, friends, who keep reminding her that her family should come first, not necessarily the husband this time around but the kids involved too). It is really a tough one.

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Re: On Nigerian Women And (lack Of) Future Ambition by Nobody: 9:01pm On Sep 22, 2014
kilokeys: the population of lagos viewing this topic.. nobody is commenting..
i go yarn my own sha..

ladies, get married to successful men.


men, go and work hard

no finance, no romance

lastly: as a proud ibo boi.. i don't split bills.. she can do whatever she likes with her money.... all i know is, my food and booty must never b compromised.

yeah na me talk so
My guy! Wa gba yii jare! Your head dey dia.

Life is not difficult like that. Let a man be a man. Let a woman be a woman.

Sometimes it's best to just leave some things the way nature made them. No point over-analysing and theorising. Bottom line is - as a man you are a breadwinner. If you consistently fail at this, go for spiritual cleansing. As a woman, you are the foundation of human civilisation, I.e a mother; the person who brings lives into existence. It is a woman's job to create and mould human beings, which is the most important job on the planet. It is also her job to take care of the home which those little humans live in. It is a man's job to provide the resources to make sure that those little beings and their mother are catered for. Full stop.

When we think we're smarter than Mother Nature is when we start having these problems.

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Re: On Nigerian Women And (lack Of) Future Ambition by Nobody: 9:01pm On Sep 22, 2014
jennylove7575: I don't blame these Nigerian women, the society and their background are parts of the contributing factors.. Nigeria society is masculine dominated society. Men in Nigeria get away with lots of misdeeds against women.. If you look deeply into the societal norms and values you will see clearly that Nigerian women are seen as second class and Nigerian men rules. All these, boils down to the society man made culture and tradition.
90% of Nigerian women learnt from their parent that marriage is the final bustop and procreation caps it all. Therefore, A career ambitious woman is labelled loose, promiscuous, and unmarriageable.
Yes statistics shows that many female Nigerian university undergraduate students don't take studies too seriously because they have lost confidents of pursuing their career further due to their personal believes, mentality and orientation to start a family for security and to have a voice in the society as well as respect.

how come we have got females taking lead in politics.GENDER inequality I ll say is a thing of the past in NIGERIA. I have seen companies reject male candidates and go for the females..... its the youth of these days ... unserious , I mean both male and female.
Re: On Nigerian Women And (lack Of) Future Ambition by Onegai(f): 9:02pm On Sep 22, 2014
xp17: @safarigirl, in as much I don't have problems with women being ambitious, but a little bit would be okay. unlike men, women have more caring and organized nature, they pay more attention to details when it comes down to domestic issues, hence they should be closer to the home, irrespective of their ambitions.

personally, I'll hand over all the sensitive responsibilities to my wife, especially in the areas of monitoring the kids change in behavior, spending more time with the kids in other to prevent them from roaming up and down the street, like sheep without a Shepard, and making the family planning. if she can do those, I careless whatever she does with the rest of her time, as long as she not putting the family interest in the line, in the pursuit of her goals.


for women: family first , then ambition follows

for men: use your ambition to secure your family, because women hate broke a'ss guys

I hate to break this to you, but there are NO GENETIC STUDIES PROVING WOMEN ARE MORE CARING AND ORGANIZED. Seriously, check. Real published Medical papers, none.

Even in real life, almost all my male relatives are neater but less organized than my female relatives. Women hoard stuff, it's hard to be a hoarder and be very organized.

And kids need their Fathers: my father taught me everything and insisted on homework being done well, as opposed to my mum who said "just do the homework". That's why kids are growing crazier each day, because parents are busy delegating responsibilities to each other and chasing money. Ask your grandfather whether it was his mother that taught him to plant yam or clear forest for farm, he will laugh tire. Your kids need their fathers and mothers. EOD.

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Re: On Nigerian Women And (lack Of) Future Ambition by EbolaParasite: 9:03pm On Sep 22, 2014
thandii1:

You don't have to twist the truth to make a point. The reasonable comments so far have been made by the ladies with the men derailing and some doing what they know how to do best, provoking and throwing insults around.

And as for the most beautiful , most handsome and other reetarded threads you call trivalities, you find more of men in there. Quit the lies.

@topic, I graduated from the university few years ago and I have ex coursemates who are married without jobs or any other additional qualification. They have No vocation of reasonable business too. All they do is make babies and attend other people's weddings . The type of question they ask people like me and a few of my friends building our career and getting additional qualifications always leave me speechless. To them, we are chasing shadows and wasting time. Settling down early is their definition of achievement. They are so comfortable in their husbands houses hiding under doing business, when all they are doing is just spending their husband's money.

The definition of fulfilment is very subjective. I wouldn't fault their lifestyles if only they just let me and my few career-oriented ladies be instead of looking down on us and telling us we are not setting our priorities right.

I'm a huge fan of marriage , i come from a very good home and I would like to build my own home at the appropriate time. Thankfully I have parents and siblings (3sisters) I can emulate as role models- those who appreciate the importance of being independent and well read, so I don't have pressure issues from my home at all. My mum has balanced both successfully, my 2sisters have, nothing stops me from achieving the same too.

Nice topic.

Therein lies the problem. Some of you think Motherhood is beans abi.
The fulfillment from MOTHERHOOD and being able to RAISE something that started as a spec of s.e.m.en is unquantifiable. The same way you are excited about your CAREER is the same way others are excited about RAISING CHILDREN. The fact that you think wanting to get married and having kids means having little to no ambition makes me question your so-called education and career interest. A KNOWLEDGEABLE PERSON WOULD NEVER SAY SUCH.

MOTHERHOOD TRUMPS any rubbish career you want to make up. The only people i have respect for are the ones that DO BOTH.
If you think having a career means you have some sort of ambition or are better than women who chose to raise babies, PLEASE DO THE WORLD A FAVOUR and TEAR YOUR CERTIFICATE

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Re: On Nigerian Women And (lack Of) Future Ambition by sheniqua: 9:05pm On Sep 22, 2014
safarigirl: If you're one who has stayed within the female hostel of any Nigerian University, you'll find that most of it's occupants share similar hopes and dreams- and no, it's not to excel in their chosen career paths.grin

This is a lie from the pit of hell
I am a product of the same university system and I never heard any classmate of mine not worried about excelling
It was our number one priority and the fear of 2nd MBBS made you bury your head in your books.
I remember girls in accounting lament about Cost accounting and I spent nights in reading rooms and the library with law students cramming cases.
This is certainly not my experience.
Don't use the words of people who are using their private parts to take themselves through school to judge women.


One of the lecturers in my school aptly described women as 'a waste of education'...no, it wasn't an insult, it was just stating the obvious. You find a woman who has hustled through primary, secondary and University education. One who looked set to be a force to reckon with in the world of business or law or medicine, I mean a female with straight A's and you think Nigerian women may be getting things right, only to follow her back to her hostel and hear these heart-breaking words:
"Omo, after school na to find husband marry remain."

And there is absolutely nothing wrong with a desire to marry after school
Marriage and having a family are not mutually exclusive
Women who want to marry should do so in their twenties,in case no one has told you the benefits
It is not only their most productive years biologically ,the chances of having children with birth defects are less
Let me not mention that it is also their most attractive years when they have a pick of suitors.The longer you wait,the less the pool of desirable men you can choose from.you will end up with divorcees,rejects,those with ED and the weirdos .


In the real sense of the word this is translated to:

"After school, I'll fling my degee inside one iron box in my dad's storeroom, find a perfect mugu that will put a ring on my finger, buy me a car, set up a boutique/beauty saloon for me and all I have to do to get this is spread my legs for him and push out little people with his DNA"

Absolutely not I married shortly after school and so did many of my friends.22,23 and 24 year olds are no babies.If you choose to wait and chop around town or until marriage becomes a prayer topic and subject of deliverances and babalawo visits,it is your own cup of tea nne.Don't knock those who choose otherwise.

Nigerian women view marriage the same way hustling Nigerian men view the US Green Card- an avenue to escape life's troubles. So in the same way you find 23 year old Nigerian men marrying 56 year old American women, you find young, promising women relegated to some man's priority list.

There you go again with unfounded generalizations.
My guess is that you are probably unmarried and this is a sort of consolation for your predicament.Marriage is not by force and it is not a requirement for anything except otu ndi nne. grin aka Christian mothers .

I don't think most Nigerian women realise that nobody wants to get attached to a leech. If you allow some Nigerian women, they would even want their husbands to carry the babies and birth them as well. And when you ask why they don't want to build wealth with a man, you hear:

"I've already suffered in my father's house. I don't want to continue suffering in my husband's house"

If there are indeed girls married to rich men and stay as homemakers,then your theory is wrong
Some men don't want their wives to work and can afford to pay them to stay home don't speak for them.
Different strokes for different folks.

Now unless you're getting married to a no-good leech like yourself, there is no reason why building wealth with a man should be termed 'suffering'

Even on Sun Newspaper's 'Beauty Of The Week' it's the same thing.

Future Ambition: Getting Married And Having Kids

When did getting married and having children become a bad thing?
Are marriage and having a career mutually exclusive I ask again ?

If you think God put you on this earth to make a liability of yourself, you need to think again. There is more to life than being someone's baby mama. There is a purpose for getting an education that lies beyond being able to speak good english whenever you and your man attend social functions
Nigerian women need to sit down and re-evaluate their lives. God sent you to assist a man, not to add to his problems. Men appreciate women who can think for themselves, who want to contribute to the family (and I don't mean churning out kids). There is nothing more endearing than a smart woman who views men as companions rather than money bags.

It is sad reading this from a fellow woman.you have also morphed into a semi man lecturing us on men and what they want.
Having children is now called churning out kids,I never knew women could be as misogynistic.You weren't even sent to assist a man dear,You were made to be a complete human with complete thinking faculty and the right to choose whether to marry or stay single.


Don't waste the education your parents worked so hard to provide for you. Break the stereotype, Nigerian women should be more than gold-digging leeches. If the likes of Oby Ezekwesili, Joke Silva, NOI can be successful career women as well as wives and mothers, then we all need to dust up our certificates and CVs and have proper future ambitions.

Now doesn't this make a mockery of your whole write up naming women in careers
I promise you there are millions of Nigerian women in that field
Go into any market,it is filled with women buying and selling
Same as in banks and financial institutions
Enter into any office from local to state to federal,there are women there
Go to schools,women are in their numbers virtually controlling teaching at elementary level and in secondary school ,professors and staff of universities,women are not lacking.
In hospitals the nursing profession is almost the exclusive preserve of women and women are not lacking as doctors up to consultant level and administrators.
In our courts women barristers,magistrates and judges abound
Amongst our uniformed officers,women are well represented
If you want women armed robbers sef,dem dey grin


If you took a poll of all the married women on this forum,I assure you majority of them work and earn a living
Those who don't are divided between those looking for work and the housewives ( who make up a tiny minority)

In Nigeria most women have no choice but to work even if they have to work from home running a small business .It is tough to live off one income in any part of the world let alone Nigeria and most Nigerian men are struggling.

lastly,there is nothing wrong in marrying within your class or marrying up
There is nothing wrong in seeking a man who can provide you comfort or one with a potential to do so
If you came from a poor home and would like a man with some means,nothing wrong in it at all.
And if you want to stay single into your 30s by choice or by lack of suitors,by all means do but do not demonize those who choose to raise a family after school.

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Re: On Nigerian Women And (lack Of) Future Ambition by Lusheyi(m): 9:06pm On Sep 22, 2014
who de take spoon scratch pot for there? undecided
godofwar666: Nigerian women don't think straight espacially the learned one's... All they think of is to make use of iphone6, brazilian hair, exotic cars and to be with there sugar daddie! Please don't quote
Re: On Nigerian Women And (lack Of) Future Ambition by ochon: 9:07pm On Sep 22, 2014
God bless you real good, Safarigirl. Truer words have never been spoken.

One of the founding fathers of this huge backward mentality which is fast desecrating some women, is OUR PARENTS. Our parents, society, and traditions caused all these.

You'll see a parent raising her daughters to believe that marriage is their key to earthly salvation.

You'll see a parent asking their 20-year-old daughter that's still in the uni reading to better her life, "when are you getting married?"

You'll see parents shipping off their daughters who's fresh from high school to a man, a girl that's barely 19 years of age. Sometimes I understand why they'd to do it - POVERTY.

You'll see parents mocking their girl's achievement simply because they ain't married yet.

Many parents pressurise their daughters into marriage because of "what the society will say."

Also, some ladies are to be blamed too. A girl will leave her studies, and start leeching off different men, selling her body in the process just to get new clothes, new gadgets and bribe her way through school. Just to live posh. They've this hope of "getting married" when they are done with school and enjoying their husby's wealth. Such a sick mentality.

I blame some men too. What kind of a sick man will have the clear conscience of marrying an 18-year-old girl fresh from high school, just because he wants "an untouched girl"? Those men will prey on families that are low income earners who see their daughters as a way to escaping poverty. The cycle is vicious mehn!!

That said, Safari, I think you should edit your title to include "SOME" or "MANY" because they're independent and employed ladies out there working hard to cater for themselves without depending on a man to be her saviour. Shout-out to such ladies!! Keep the fire burning.cool

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Re: On Nigerian Women And (lack Of) Future Ambition by Nobody: 9:07pm On Sep 22, 2014
thandii1:

@ 1st bolded, I agree and that is why it doesn't hurt to read this write up of hers once in a while as a reminder.

@2nd bolded, of course there are, but when they do so, they are called names mocked and ridiculed, the society wouldn't let them breathe. There will always be that reminder both from the male and female folks that they are incomplete. Only a few can stomach such in this hostile environment of Nigeria, but those few still exist. These are the unmarried ones.

The ones that manage to get married with their eyes still fixed on their career(and are not ready to settle for less) are faced with challenges from the society, husband, inlaws, friends, who keep reminding her that her family should come first, not necessarily the husband this time around but the kids involved too). It is really a tough one.

You have provided all the reasons most of them chicken out. I typically don't see women as the weaker se.x, personally. But there has to be a reason they are historically known as such. Only very, very, very few women have that strong stomach to bear the consequences they could face. And clearly, it's not by wishing it; it's by walking the talk.

The ones i know who walk this talk hardly talk about it. They have no reason to. It's more about self-awareness than it is about talking. Talk is after all cheap.
Re: On Nigerian Women And (lack Of) Future Ambition by bayulll01(m): 9:07pm On Sep 22, 2014
alaladakosta: But Seriously yoruba men are are lazy, low life , losers. They don't have no future plans, am not saying all of them, cus am Yoruba. But many of them give up easily.

Shutout to ma ibo brothers, men nigga can go any lent to make a change. Drug, rituals name it.
omo aleee ni werey no yoruba will talk this way,i did my nysc in east y!bo are worst,dont derail this good thread that pathetic safari created

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Re: On Nigerian Women And (lack Of) Future Ambition by tpia1: 9:08pm On Sep 22, 2014
Onegai:

I hate to break this to you, but there are NO GENETIC STUDIES PROVING WOMEN ARE MORE CARING AND ORGANIZED. Seriously, check. Real published Medical papers, none.

Even in real life, almost all my male relatives are neater but less organized than my female relatives. Women hoard stuff, it's hard to be a hoarder and be very organized.

And kids need their Fathers: my father taught me everything and insisted on homework being done well, as opposed to my mum who said "just do the homework". That's why kids are growing crazier each day, because parents are busy delegating responsibilities to each other and chasing money. Ask your grandfather whether it was his mother that taught him to plant yam or clear forest for farm, he will laugh tire. Your kids need their fathers and mothers. EOD.


actually, its strange but a lot of men are quite neater than women.

kids do need dads, but its rather amazing (dont want to say unfair) how a man can easily bond with his children even when the mother bore the major responsibility in their care. The kids (especially boys) tend to gravitate towards the man no matter how close they are to their mothers.

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