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Emma1Oj:
I was done with mine so the doc was trying to write/prescribe drugs for me, so it was her turn to be attended to before the doc was distracted wit somtin else and asked me to wait and said to her "remove your top n bra and climb der"n he walked out. wen he came back like 1min later n found her still on her top, he just say " my dear go out n com wen u r ready n call d next person"so she jus remove sharp sharp. she no con send again..she con relax. fine girl o..I suffer dat day..but docs r trying o..

Couldn't they ask you to leave the room while she does her xray ? They shouldn't even expose you again to those harmful rays

Kobojunkie:

You'll listen when you're dead

TheSourcerer:
there is something about the photo of you and your kids , it should be framed as one of the best pictures out of Nigerian home. It's Perfect.

Not me oo..

mignone:
Permission can be taken in saner environments & u can even politely request dt certain ppl don't touch u.

It's true, in saner countries the things I'm reading here won't happen. Nigerian patients have really been done dirty.

Women being asked to strip in front of men

Men being asked to strip in front of women

Patients in pain being rough handled

Rude nurses

funmisticqueen2:
it is well. Look at the other one talking about motoscrotosis.

Nigerians never cease to dissapoint when displaying ignorance and entitled mentality, except maybe 1sharon, the others had this aggressive tone.

It's tiring abeg. Maybe doctors should open a thread on silly things patients do. Wishful thinking tho.

Thanks sis

Lol, half the posters here were trolls and ppl kept falling for it

I burst out laughing when I saw that motoscrotosis was completely made up,

nothing came out on google.

queenitee:
I've been following your discussions since and I really do not want to intervene because I really can't stand replying like they have gave. But I'd like to make a comment on this.
Asking " could you be pregnant or are you sexually active" like you said, is good. But I have a lot of reason why a doctor would not ask you that but would prefer to go into details, but I wouldn't even tell you those ones because they are medical reasons and you might think so what? But to make this easier, I would go with a reason you mentioned in one of your earlier post. You said "maybe because this is Nigeria where everyone is pretentious" And I would want to talk about that reason alone. Because people are pretentious in Nigeria or they think some thing shouldn't be or shouldn't happen to them, they would outrightly deny it and you a doctor who wants the best for your patient needs to find a way to get the information from them to be able to get the proper diagnosis.
It is why a doctor or nurse would start with "have you been feeling excessively thirsty these days or have you been urinating frequently at night?" If would surprise you the patient would deny it. Go like this. "Madam, I just want to know many times do you urinate at night and how many times do you use to before?" The patient might still not answer, but go this way. "Madam, sickness isn't your portion o, I'm just asking. Do you drink like 10, 15 or more times a day and do you urinate like 5 or more times during midnight before day break?" and watch them start talking. Do you now see one of the reasons why doctor ask?
It's because when a doctor/nurse ask the question directly, many would deny, but when they start gradually, it's like they are already warming you up and along the way self, you would have dropped hints.
A doctor/nurse would ask "are you pregnant" and then patient would go "no o, never." But ask "when was the last time you had sex and have you seen your period since then?" and the patient would go "that was January and it's true o, in fact, I noticed I haven't seen my period since January and I'm even feeling one kind self. But it doesn't seem like pregnancy, because the only thing is that I haven't seen my period, but I mean is just second week of march and you would agree with me not having period for a month doesn't necessarily mean you are pregnant. I mean, I haven't been vomiting, although I don't feel like eating some food anymore because they make me feel funny." Notice they are still denying being pregnant but they have dropped hints along the way.

You might say not everyone would be pretentious and you would be right, but a doctor has a lot of patient to attend to. And because you won't know who will be pretentious or not and there's no time for trial and error because there are a lot of
people to attend to, they chose to go with what gets everyone talking generally.

And the fact that some people are married? If would shock you to know some married people are embarrass to talk about sex and some dread getting pregnant, they don't want it for one reason or the other. And if you ask some people are you pregnant? Because they are scared of saying yes and discovering they are not, they tend to say "no."
I would cite an example(I was there). "A staff(my senior colleague) went to the staff clinic to complain she was vomiting, weak, tired and having loss of appetite. The doctor only asked few questions such as " is your period due? The lady said no and that it can't be pregnancy and the doctor too her for her words and they promptly treated something else before discovering the lady was pregnant. Now, imagine a medical practitioner who knew all the symptoms of pregnancy treated something else and it was no one fault because the lady said it can't be pregnancy and the doctor considering the fact that the lady herself is a medical practitioner who worked in the same hospital took her words for what she said, because why would a medical practitioner deny/lie? But you know if the doctor had gone into details, they would have arrived at the correct diagnoses. If a medical practitioner who really know about this can pretend/deny, who can't?

Another one, because you present with a symptom common to a disease doesn't mean you have the disease. Many diseases have the same signs and symptoms with only slight differences and without asking these questions, one would never know. It is also to prevent diagnosing and treating the wrong disease.
You would agree with me Nausea and vomiting doesn't necessarily mean pregnancy, it's associated with a lot of other diseases.

So this is why. However, I know sensitive those questions can be, but it's really medical practitioners doing there job and except for perverts, they've already forgotten asking those questions when the patient leaves.

PS: I'm a nurse, not a doctor.

Ok ok I see what you're all saying on this thread.
I see the logic.
Cultural differences I guess

Cos the question "when last did you have sex"? Is very intimate and borderline offensive.

Never had such a question and honestly I'd answer it with another question.

You're saying the patient will actually open up?
I thought they'd shy away.

"Could you be pregnant"? And "are you sexually active" sound less intrusive for a nigerian

Edopesin:
I know you didn't, just wanted to know what you think

I was told something similar..Nigerians just love to circulate baseless stories abeg

Edopesin:
So do you think there's any iota of truth in there

I never said that

HedwigesMaduro:
Don't know why. But what I posted there was not fiction. It happened live.

You were there?

Protein0:
They will be made to know when they are patients in "teaching" hospitals.
FYI, in teaching hospitals, asking med students to go is akin to asking the consultant not to see you.
I doubt there is a consultant that will proceed with a patient that rejects med students in a teaching hospital.
Do you even know why "Teaching" is in the name?
I have come to realise that the illiterates and the well read have no issues being used to teach med students.
It's only the "ill literates" that do.

..im not a layman.I'm a med student myself..

is that the case in Nigeria?

Didn't you read the stories here? Ppl don't like so many ppl in the room and they're in the medical field too. It makes ppl feel objectified

HedwigesMaduro:
I don't know about that story above, but a similar thing happened in my friend's house in Abeokuta. Incidentally, my friend's landlord was my dad's friend too. My friend told me the story, then I heard my dad telling another person the story as relayed by the landlord. A young guy came to rent an apartment in the house. He was very jovial and mingled freely in the neighbourhood. He told everybody he was from Ife. A day came when one of the neighbours had an occasion to attend at Ife. My friend and many others planned to follow the neighbour for that occasion. That young man too showed eagerness to go. But on the D-Day, he feigned illness and couldn't follow them. He described his family house to them. After the occasion, they all went to the guy's family house to just check on the family. They were mighty shocked when they were shown his grave and the car wreckage he died in. When they got back to Abeokuta, the guy had vanished. How do you explain that?

Why do these stories always sound the same?

TheSourcerer:
read through the whole story 4 times, the death has nothing to do with the visitation , the description of the figure sounds like the shadowman(they are Aliens ) everybody has seen shadow men , Seeing a shadowman coupled with the feeling of the recent death must have made his fear heighted as it will logically affect any
Let's say fine she came , now knocking for 3 hours ? I know Nigerian police are not effective but 3hour fierce knock would warrant neighbors to come and see what is bothering them from sleeping , and I fail to see why this recording of the 'banging ' of 3 hours could not surface ,

No need to decipher anything OP lied

Edopesin:
Lemme share this one also

We all know Edo state is tagged "The Capital of Witches and all" which is out of ignorance btw but when a lot of people claim to have experienced something at the same time you begin to doubt your beliefs

I've heard this story from different sources sha but I don't know how valid it is

Most Edo North people, Particularly the Esan, Auchi, Etsako, Ekpoma, Fuga and environs have one time or the other heard about the dead popular musician Bolivia (Not his son that bears the same name) coming back from the dead and getting married to a woman for some years and even gave birth to children (No jokes man)

According to the stories the woman didn't know where he came from and she disturbed him persistently to take her to where he came from and he finally obliged but when they got to his family house in the village. but without entering he asked her to go in that he will be back and left her with the kids

She went in and saw his family and when she told them who she was and who she's married to some people took to their heels while they showed her the grave where the great Bolivia was buried

Las Las this might just be another story to scare kids but they way people do tell the story is scary stuff

I've heard something similar like this

DominusPrime:
Lol...unlike you who doesn't like to admit wrong I know of course that there are wayward Drs. We have a number of perverted Drs too. I won't defend what's wrong. If they are caught they could face dire consequences. That said, no lady or guy should be examined by the opposite sex without having a chaperone present. This is the standard practice and Drs are even warned not to examine patients without a chaperone present.

Chill..it's a jokee

Gabonese:
During army recruitment, you'll be asked to strip naked, your balls examined and asked to maintain a døggy position so a swab can be taken from your anus. It's humiliating but we no get choice. I was lucky to have a male doctor attend to me. Unfortunately for some of us, it was a female doctor that attended to them. The expressions and embarassment on their faces as they came out was just priceless. Mind you a large percentage of us will be asked to strip in a room first before going in. Twas so gayish I swear.
I think most of them overdo and abuse that things sha most especially in government and private hospitals. Sometimes it's not usually necessary. I've witnessed a case where a young male doctor asked a pretty female to strip that he wants to examine her. Unfortunately for him, the girl Sabi as e dey go and she simply told him it's not in any way related to her ailment. The doctor looked disappointed and definitely surprised and carried on with his work. Many
of those doctors just use the pretence of examination to have a nice time fingering wet pussy and smooching soft boobs

Dominusprime won't like this oo

omoharry:
i forgot to include that pain .. my God! I almost rolled off from the table . My sister that have had 3 children did it and she did not feel any pain . It's pain is for ladie that have not given birth or are overly sexually active .����

So true. Felt like I was being ripped open. I find it so unnecessary for ladies that aren't having sex. Afterall the procedure checks for cancer caused by an STD.

JUICYPINEAPPLE:
No doctor, I repeat no doctor who truely knows his or her job will ask such 'FOOLISH' question as to verify if a patient is 2 or 3 months pregnant. NO DOCTOR!!! Except all these half baked medical practitioners parading themselves as doctors.

When diagnosing a patient exhibiting STD symptoms sex related questions are a professional ethical questions.

ABEG MAKE WE HEAR WORD!

I thought as much

Emma1Oj:
Ladies how you u pple do your X-ray?? I can remember a male doc ones asked a lady to remove her top n bra for x-ray in my present, she wasn't comfortable with it, the doc jus asked her to go out dat wen she's ready she shld com back, she quickly undressed. it was funny sha..it got to a point she no con even send d breast again..na me con suffer am las las..

Inappropriate. Why were you there tho

omoharry:
My own was when I went to a health center for my cervical screening in 2012.Meehn ! That procedure is very very invasive for a woman. When I got there , I met male and female Doctor .If she was a nurse I didn't know . I just observed that they both wore white coat .
The most embarrassing moment was when I was ask to UnCloth ( though with a medical coat to cover me up) I was then made to open my legs apart like a pregnant woman that is about to give birth.Afterward, an instrument was inserted in my cervix to open me up ..Then the lady called on the male doctor to take the swap and probably assess my cervix . God I burning with shame and prayed for the whole process to be over as soon as possible . I was very uncomfortable and felt exposed .
Though male the Doctor was professional but I didn't like the fact that he had to see me in that state. Naked and open.
Ladies that have done cervical screening will know what I am talking about .Its very very embarrassing

It's so painful..I couldn't go all the way with the procedure. I was told to return, but never did

They don't even care if you're sexually active or not

dancok:
a nurse once asked me this "if i shave down there" is it imply anything?

Yes. Were you itching? Pubic lice is real

Protein0:
What if the "plenty other patients" ask med students to leave as well?
How will they learn?

Okay I see what you mean, but I'm sure they do bear this it in mind that patients can refuse.

Cos 5 ppl watching you can make you feel objectified

Protein0:
Don't mind them.
It is called a teaching hospital for a reason.
Abi dey Don see a teaching hospital not attached to a school before?
People sha

Do laymen really know what teaching hospital implies ?

MrEgghead:
He's a member of[b] JOHESU.[/b] ..They still claim they passed through medical school.

What's that?

GodPunishBiafra:
The hospital must be stupîd

Fûck professionalism.

Don't we have male DOCTORS specialists?



A female doctor can only do that to me if I'm unconscious.


Nonsense!

You know he made the disease up right? Lmaooo..

DominusPrime:
Lmp is last menstrual period.
You must be kidding me if you are asking me how is when last you had sex the a better question when I've spent so much time typing just to explain to you that that is not the better question. The better question, is when was you LMP? Babe abeg I'm done. I'm really tired cos it's like you don't even understand what I've been saying.

No I'm saying that you'd still have to do a pregnancy test to attain 100% accuracy cos can't patients still lie abt the sex question?

TONYE001:
1Sharon, I don't know if you are a medical doctor or not. If you are a doctor, I doubt you're practicing in Nigeria.

Right from medschool, student doctors are taught how to "twist some questions..."

This is just because of our environment. There are smokers that answer in the negative if asked directly whether they smoke. There are people that outrightly say they aren't sexually active even if they are. There are folks that gulp large quantities of alcohol but deny they drink when asked. This list is endless.

So, overtime, Nigerian doctors have learnt how to be indirect in their questions. Recall, they go through all this stress FOR THE PATIENT'S BENEFIT, not theirs.

It's painful when the outside world accuses MOST NIGERIAN DOCTORS that they're perverts. The sad truth is, doctors would gladly stay away from sex-related questions and examinations if there were an alternative!

Doctors don't look forward to see a woman's privates. I assure you, most times, it's not funny what is seen down there. Some doctors are even embarrassed asking sex-related questions. See, doctors are doing these stuffs at their own inconvenience...

Let's not propagate this misinformation to the general public. It's tiring reading all these attacks on doctors.

I'm a student, not in nigeria, you're right.

Thanks for clearing that up and being more direct.

DominusPrime:
Yes I was jeering cos he assumed no Dr had the right to ask a malaria patient about his or her sexual life and he was arrogant about it and abusing medical students.

Now it is known that some women could be 2 or 3 months pregnant without realising it. Asking her that will probably get you the wrong answer. Like a girl who is 6 weeks pregnant might not even realise she has missed her period. Sometimes a period can be missed and still doesn't mean pregnancy. So strictly, medically speaking you can ask but there is a possibility of getting a wrong answer. The most appropriate thing to ask is her LMP.

What's lmp?

So how is "when last you had sex" a better question?

You'd still have to give a pregnancy since you are so concerned about accuracy

Protein0:
Even in a "teaching" hospital?

Yes, they have plenty other patients to look at

DominusPrime:
Just pray you never have to be asked this kind of question then you'd know the difference btw sex of 10mins previously to sex of 1 or 2 mins b4 the patient starts complaining of tiredness. By the way 10mins? The boys who you've tangled with certainly haven't done you well o...lol...

Okay but does this question apply to women?

Isnt it men dying of heart attack during sex?

DominusPrime:
Lol smart alec? You obviously don't get the point of our discussion. There is no correlation btw sex and malaria or better still no common reason why a patient presents with symptoms of malaria and then you'd be asking about sex except of course the patient is female. And even at that you certainly won't ask about sex position. As for what will make a Dr ask a patient, even a male patient about his sexual history even if he presented with pain in the eye...well...keep wondering...when you really are ready to know I'll tell you. Seeing that sarcastic 'smart alec' put me off and made me realise that you bunch aren't really interested in knowing. Even if I tell you you'd just say stuff like, "mscheeeew . So that is it?".

Cos you were doing Shakara and delayed answering kingazubike and jeering.

I do understand that's its if the drugs are compatable with pregnancy

But I still believe the appropriate question instead should be "could you be pregnant"?

DominusPrime:
If you read my chat history with kingazubuike you'd know how we started. I did not say anything about a Dr asking about sex position. I did not even justify it. It is not even a common question Drs ask although I can think of 1 or 2 cases where a Dr might ask.
A cardiologist not asking you doesn't mean it is a wrong question that cannot be asked of patients. I can tell you a 100 possible questions a cardio can ask you but you were certainly not asked all of them. My point in all of this is if you don't understand something you ask. As for the relevance I'd have to paint a clinical scenario for you to get the whole picture and I don't have that time or patience to type but just know that for a [b]woman or man who's major physical activity happens to be sex [/b]the cardio can ask about it as a measure of decline in cardiopulmonary function. It's like asking a patient how long he/she walks b4 he or she gets tired and then comparing it to his pre morbid state. Hope this sheds a little light.

Sex that is like 10mins?

Sunisonflex39:
please who knows how I can remove this "there is no other God but Allah " in my profile..

since they had salah that I went to wish them.. people are taking me for a Muslim.

seun abeg

Allahu akbar