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Re: Nothing Wrong With Jonathan's 21 Billion Pledge by anonimi: 7:24am On Dec 27, 2014 |
philips70: Read my post that YOU quoted again. I clearly said after the House passed the MOTION to adjourn for the day. Spot the difference or you need some help |
Re: Nothing Wrong With Jonathan's 21 Billion Pledge by mentorandfriend(m): 7:27am On Dec 27, 2014 |
venomous:Look at this ignoramus. Your earlier speech tackled GEJ and GMB and I replied you in that wise. We are not like America. we run a multipolictical structure where individuals can even float their own party and coin up their own ideology. One never forgets how APC have repeatedly called themselves progressives, and how PDP have always tried to sell to us the idealogy of Government of the people, for the people, and by the people, which was by the way first used by Abraham Lincoln. Stop shifting when you are caught up at your wits end in argument. Kindly refer back to GMB and GEJ you compared initially or carry yourself and get out of my way. |
Re: Nothing Wrong With Jonathan's 21 Billion Pledge by philips70(m): 7:29am On Dec 27, 2014 |
iv4fb: It was well quoted in my first comment. He smartly dodged it to confuse readers. Dissecting and interpretation is left in the hands of learned fellows knowing fully well there are always lawyers on each side of a case. |
Re: Nothing Wrong With Jonathan's 21 Billion Pledge by philips70(m): 7:31am On Dec 27, 2014 |
anonimi: Let Nairalanders help you spot the difference in the use of after in the two statements. Obviously, it's you who need help. Or go back yourself and dissect them but this time without a herd mentality. 1 Like |
Re: Nothing Wrong With Jonathan's 21 Billion Pledge by modhream: 7:39am On Dec 27, 2014 |
philips70:Of course,the 1diot job-hunter will overlook those pesky sections.All those billions to be grabbed n u don't want him having a seat in the room when it's being done?. |
Re: Nothing Wrong With Jonathan's 21 Billion Pledge by BetaThings: 7:44am On Dec 27, 2014 |
philips70: We don't need to go that far Will adults, rich people whose time is valuable gather with a president and VP for the purpose of Nollywood? BTW let him tell us how past donations have been done In Nigeria, you cannot write a cheque for more than N10m You cannot pay more than N3m by cash So if not by pledge to be redeemed by bank transfer, how will it be done And Mr Ayeni of Skyebank donated N1b for him and his partner, how would he have brought it there? |
Re: Nothing Wrong With Jonathan's 21 Billion Pledge by PassingShot(m): 7:45am On Dec 27, 2014 |
iv4fb: Suit yourself please. |
Re: Nothing Wrong With Jonathan's 21 Billion Pledge by Nobody: 7:46am On Dec 27, 2014 |
mentorandfriend: OK since you decide to play the game...I will play along..... From my own understanding political parties produces politicians who demonstrates their founding ideologies in their policy making... And also in the contest of this argument. Its safe to refer to GMB and GEJ as an embodiment of their various parties..... Tell me any policy that has been made by politicians in Nigeria that truly reflects any ideology whatsoever if not to loot for themselves and mind you the US is also a multi party country..... Don't say what you don't know |
Re: Nothing Wrong With Jonathan's 21 Billion Pledge by BossAyuk: 7:48am On Dec 27, 2014 |
Redoil:Why did he leave this portion out?? "Section 91 (9) of the Electoral Act stipulates that an individual or other entity shall not donate more than N1, 000,000.00 to any candidate. As you can see, anybody who donated more than 1 million.naira has violated the electoral act. |
Re: Nothing Wrong With Jonathan's 21 Billion Pledge by hayoakins(m): 7:48am On Dec 27, 2014 |
adaweezy: You forgot to quote CAMA Section 38(2). Check it out and revert. |
Re: Nothing Wrong With Jonathan's 21 Billion Pledge by Acidosis(m): 7:48am On Dec 27, 2014 |
So all the numerous campaign adverts in video, paper and banners for Buhari (including Amaechi's stolen money) cost less than 1billion? Whoever believes this is not only f00lish but deserves to be jailed and burnt to ashes. |
Re: Nothing Wrong With Jonathan's 21 Billion Pledge by Nobody: 7:52am On Dec 27, 2014 |
philips70: over sabi lawyer adaweezy, did you even read this or you catch apollo when it came to this part? ridiculous nairaland! |
Re: Nothing Wrong With Jonathan's 21 Billion Pledge by Solowande(m): 7:53am On Dec 27, 2014 |
4bobo:wait till d money has been spend b4 start complaining mr complain complain |
Re: Nothing Wrong With Jonathan's 21 Billion Pledge by BetaThings: 7:53am On Dec 27, 2014 |
Companies cannot donate 1k, according to companies and allied matters act Capacity and powers of companies 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Nothing Wrong With Jonathan's 21 Billion Pledge by mentorandfriend(m): 7:59am On Dec 27, 2014 |
venomous:So can you state specifically what policies GMB made between 1983 and 1985 that promoted looting, and kindly compare it with policies of the last six years. Dont get me started this morning. By the way, on what grounds do you dare to put GMB and GEJ side by side? Ever heard that Players in the oil and gas sector dobated N5bn in the face of the international fall in oil price few days ago? That money could build a refinery, yet they frustrate every such effort. Subsidy cash and its recent scam that was exposed comes to mind. Ever heard how N21bn came out within 2hours in a certain dinner party few days ago too, and they say Nigeria is looking for international loan of 1bn dollars to counter insurgency? You see? |
Re: Nothing Wrong With Jonathan's 21 Billion Pledge by CoCoLav(f): 7:59am On Dec 27, 2014 |
mfm04622: 1000000 likes! Nobody seems to have mentioned that. |
Re: Nothing Wrong With Jonathan's 21 Billion Pledge by adaweezy(m): 8:10am On Dec 27, 2014 |
My link is 21 Billion Naira Donations: Much Ado About Nothing http:///chQ6utkTv5 and Nairaland mods can unban my monicker Adadadon |
Re: Nothing Wrong With Jonathan's 21 Billion Pledge by Edron1(m): 8:17am On Dec 27, 2014 |
THE Peoples Democratic Party Fund Raising Dinner held at the Presidential Villa, Abuja, to boost President Goodluck Jonathan’s campaign war chest has been attracting public attention. The event, which took place last Saturday, was attended by business people, multinational organisations, interest groups and individuals who donated a sum of N21.27 billion to support his campaign for the 2015 presidential election. But the President and his party will definitely have trouble explaining away this latest bizarre development in regard to the law of the electoral game and the morality in politics. Though how a political party’s candidate raises his or her campaign funds is the party’s affair, the process must comply with the extant laws and pass the integrity test. First, Nigerian laws are unambiguous on campaign expenses and funding. The 1999 Constitution in Section 221 clearly states: “No association, other than a political party, shall canvass for votes for any candidate at any election or contribute to the funds of any political party or to the election expenses of any candidate at an election.” The Companies and Allied Matters Act also expressly forbids companies in Section 38 (2) from funding or donating gifts, property or money to any political party or association. Then the Electoral Act 2010, as amended, specifies in Section 91 (2) that “the maximum election expenses to be incurred by a candidate at a presidential election shall be N1 billion.” But Jonathan, the ruling PDP and its 21 state governors took lawlessness to a new height on Saturday when one Tunde Ayeni, leading other donors, gave N2 billion on behalf of himself and his unnamed “partner” and “friends.” Jerry Gana, a permanent fixture in successive governments, announced N5 billion on behalf of his equally mysterious friends and “associates in the power sector.” Not to be outdone, oil and gas sector “friends” also pledged N5 billion; real estate and building sector, N4 billion; transport and aviation sector, N1 billion; food and agriculture, N500 million; power, N500 million; construction, N310 million; road construction, N250 million; National Automotive Association, N450 million; and Shelter Development Limited, N250 million. Going by the Electoral Act, which caps the donation an individual could make at N1 million, 5,000 donors must have been behind Gana’s N5 billion gift. There is no doubting the fact that these donations raise salient questions verging on transparency. At a period when the government should be taking interest in enforcing compliance with the money laundering laws, people should not come out to announce donations on behalf of themselves and their “friends,” without actually naming those “friends.” It should also be of interest to know if those donors and their anonymous “friends” have complied with appropriate tax obligations. International best practices stipulate this as the minimum irreducible requirement. Many Nigerians will also be interested in knowing how the Board of the Niger Delta Development Commission, which was credited with producing N15 million, came about its donation. As a government agency, where did it derive such powers to donate to a political party from? Having done this for the PDP presidential campaign, will the commission also make a similar amount available to other parties? As for the sectoral donors, there is also the need for total disclosure. Who were the actors in the oil and gas sector that donated N5 billion? If they are publicly quoted companies, did they get the approval of their shareholders before going on the spending spree? How did the power sector that has not been able to muster enough investible funds come about a N500 million donation? With the automobile industry donating N450 million, it is no longer surprising that it benefited so much from the government’s controversial waivers. Ayeni, a legal practitioner whose consortium recently acquired NITEL and Mtel, is also the chairman of Skye Bank Plc and a director in the Ibadan Electricity Development Company. Given that these big time sectoral players have suddenly become the big donors to the President’s campaign, what is the guarantee that regulators would be able to control them? It is little wonder that the government, after selling the power sector to private operators, is still interested in arranging a N213 billion bailout for them. So, except the players in the various sectors donated their own money, they have brazenly violated the law if they did so on behalf of their companies. The relevant authorities should demand their tax returns. As of 2010, domestic airlines collectively owed banks and regulators over N300 billion. To say the least, this is another outrageous example of brazen impunity in government. Indeed, a string of ugly scandals has dotted the Jonathan administration. Among the most unsettling cases is the N2.53 trillion paid out in 2011 as petrol subsidies to cronies and “ghost” businessmen when the National Assembly approved only N245 billion that year. We also recollect the mind-numbing loss to the national treasury of some questionable waivers that cost the country N64 billion in first six months of the year. Funds that disappeared from the public till can now find their way back as campaign donations. There is also the unresolved issue of missing billions of dollars at the state- owned oil company. This scale of campaign slush funds and illegal contributions in return for some political and economic favours is deeply worrying. On moral grounds, leveraging on political power to raise campaign funds is corrosively anti- democratic. That it was done by previous administrations should not be a justifiable excuse for the flagrant abuse of power. There is next to no doubt that some of these funds are of doubtful origin. It is just sickening to find a President who claims to be fighting corruption fraternising with the venal high and mighty. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Nothing Wrong With Jonathan's 21 Billion Pledge by modhream: 8:19am On Dec 27, 2014 |
adaweezy:Your ban should be extended,in my view.For mischievously trying to hoodwink the unlettered n the gullible,all cos u need a job or be noticed by the powers that be. |
Re: Nothing Wrong With Jonathan's 21 Billion Pledge by idee91: 9:26am On Dec 27, 2014 |
iv4fb: "The effect of criminal law on nigerian garage boys" that was a project topic of a colleague..... So u see law could be learnt in the motor park.... But u can have that, cos that aint what am mad as. ... But who d f do u think u are ?? |
Re: Nothing Wrong With Jonathan's 21 Billion Pledge by Nobody: 9:41am On Dec 27, 2014 |
how much were you paid, @op....you ended up contradicting yourself I would love to know how you managed to rationally equate 1 billion Naira to 21 billion Naira |
Re: Nothing Wrong With Jonathan's 21 Billion Pledge by idee91: 9:50am On Dec 27, 2014 |
iv4fb: "The effect of criminal law on nigerian garage boys" that was a project topic of a colleague..... So u see law could be learnt in the motor park.... But u can have that, cos that aint what I'm mad at. ... Given that you don't taste ur words b4 u spit dem.... I'll like u 2 face ur business, kaji ko ? |
Re: Nothing Wrong With Jonathan's 21 Billion Pledge by Nobody: 9:53am On Dec 27, 2014 |
idee91: Pele, life must be really hard for u. just take it easy. |
Re: Nothing Wrong With Jonathan's 21 Billion Pledge by adaweezy(m): 9:54am On Dec 27, 2014 |
modhream: Ok you are noticed |
Re: Nothing Wrong With Jonathan's 21 Billion Pledge by BuddhaPalm(m): 9:56am On Dec 27, 2014 |
4bobo: LMAO! |
Re: Nothing Wrong With Jonathan's 21 Billion Pledge by Rainmaker69(m): 10:20am On Dec 27, 2014 |
adaweezy: adaweezy: I for call you baby lawyer but you nor be lawyer yet. If you do become a lawyer, here's some free advice: Always do a thorough analysis of the issues involved in a legal problem. Use the issues to identify the appropriate law(s) that apply to that situation. Do all the laws apply to all the actors? As much as possible, have a senior colleague review your application of the law(s) to the facts on ground. In this case, you applied the wrong sections of only one applicable law (Electoral Act as amended). You omitted the most critical sections of the Act sef). Wetin you do to Companies and Allied Matters Act (for corporate donors), the various anti money-laundering laws including ICPC Act and EFCC Act, and of course the Constitution (for the governors donating state funds)? I suggest you buy these laws or use your school library (if they're available). For now, you have scored 0/10. Your assignment is to go and study all these laws and rewrite your essay. Also, give me the number of your dean. We need to talk. Case dismissed with costs against the Op. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Nothing Wrong With Jonathan's 21 Billion Pledge by mcquin(m): 10:58am On Dec 27, 2014 |
henryobinna: With GEJ do we still have a future? What will you tell Chibok girls about their future that the C in C failed to protect? 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Nothing Wrong With Jonathan's 21 Billion Pledge by Nobody: 11:41am On Dec 27, 2014 |
slimmy05:Religion is ntn but a curse on mankind,so because he's a pastor means,he shud not contest 4 any post in this country. U who is either a christian or a muslim,y do u vote during elections. Slimmy05,u no get sense. |
Re: Nothing Wrong With Jonathan's 21 Billion Pledge by henryobinna(m): 11:42am On Dec 27, 2014 |
mcquin:is that why you want Buhari to rule till 2099? assuming he wins |
Re: Nothing Wrong With Jonathan's 21 Billion Pledge by mcquin(m): 11:54am On Dec 27, 2014 |
henryobinna: Seriously are you ok or is it that GEJ's clowns are now bereft of ideas. How does clamour for Buhari's getting over power translate to him staying till 2099 or is this no longer a democracy with a characteristic of regular elections? Guy if you have Buhariphobia because you are from South, not all of us have. If GEJ had performed, we wouldn't have opted for Buhari; after all it is well known that the North has ruled for quite long and that is why many queued bhind GEJ in 2011. |
Re: Nothing Wrong With Jonathan's 21 Billion Pledge by henryobinna(m): 12:08pm On Dec 27, 2014 |
mcquin:see as yoi dey buy market wey no concern you. mr.man, my post you quoted first was directed to some guy, who said buhari till 2099. I then asked you a question cos your post was in concord with his'. and you're here typing sh¡t about south, buhariphobia bla bla bla.. na wa oh.. read well before you attack like a wounded dog |
Re: Nothing Wrong With Jonathan's 21 Billion Pledge by Athanatos(m): 12:37pm On Dec 27, 2014 |
duni04:You know its funny how Nigerians think! We're the smartest gullible nation I've ever seen! How in God's name can't you know the difference between Income and expenditure? PDP has generated 21 billion,have they spent it on their campaign? No! The law states that a man is innocent until proven otherwise! Those of you who have no inkling about the workings of the law call OP a charge and bail lawyer. Sad. Until they spend more than is required on their campaign,they aren't guilty-at least not yet. My 2 kobo. |
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