gists:


I wanted to keep quiet for now on this thread because this is coming from barca. But I feel like making just a point because of the highlighted paragraph.

Is it not the same president that promised not to go for re-election? Is it not the same president that told Christiane Amanpour that electricity is now stable in Nigeria? That is a bold-face lie on international New TV! And he said it comfortably and naturally. He even went further by saying ordinary citizens on the street of Lagos will attest to the improve power and urged CNN to conduct interviews with the people. There are too many lies this man has made in the past few years. I am just wondering how come barcanista thinks GEJ was not in his usual self LYING TO KERRY. That GEJ told Kerry that election will hold doesn't mean he meant it or at least doesn't mean he hasn't changed his mind after the meeting with Kerry.

I didn't take the sahara reporter message seriously until I read the part that said Abdulsallam was contacted about heading the ING but he not only rejected it but also reported to some people. I don't know if the story is true or not, but as far as I am concerned all politicians are a$sholes and it looks like GEJ is the biggest a$shole among then in Nigeria. Hence, I won't put this beyond him.

barcanista:
[s]GMB had said the 2011 election will be his last to participate as a contestant. Jonathan had promised not to go for a second term. Óbj wÀs Ñot expected to seek re-election by his party-men in 2003. All these bothers on choice and not a consttitutional matter. GEJ might have told Kerry that May 29 date is sacrosanct, but it is pure constitutional matter. He can't perpetrate himself in power illegally. It can't work. We saw what happened in Cote d'viore that GÉJ even supported Gbagbo's step-aside. It can't work! If GEJ contacted Abdusalam, of what gain is that to him? The ING has only been used once in 1993 aÑd that was by a Military administration. Even at that, Shonekan was booted out by another Khaki General. Under what guise will that be achieved?[/s]

SeverusSnape:

Are you pained...dusty Malik
BARCANISTA said the truth, I know most of you won't agree with him, but the truth will always prevail.
Cry me a river...

Clerverly:


So Nigerians should not talk, when they are seeing actuals steps being taken by the ruling party to undermine the constitution until jonathan breaches it with its attendant consequences, in order not to upset barcanista and his newly- found friends??

Clerverly:


So Nigerians should not talk, when they are seeing actuals steps being taken by the ruling party to undermine the constitution until jonathan breaches it with its attendant consequences, in order not to upset barcanista and his newly- found friends??

barcanista:
All rumours my brother. Forget about what one National Security Adviser or some group of protestera and political parties says, they cannot effect any change of date. The President cannot wake up from his slumber to announce election postponement, it is beyond him. If Council of State like let them all endorse election shift, it amounts to nullity. INEC does not take orders from anybody, let them blab.

Clerverly:
I don't know the basis of your thread other than to be seen as a fair and neutral commentator. That in itself, is not a bad thing, as it positions you well in case of any eventualities, at least it would facilitate your alibi! (that's what cowards are known for, not saying you are one though)

However, I find your write up, myopic, self serving and biased!

First,You highlighted the so called "propaganda" from the Opposition camp while conveniently leaving that of the ruling party like the allegation of "Jega meeting with the APC in Dubai", "Jega sharing of PVC to goats and cows in the North" etc

Second, when the NSA flew the first Kite of election postponement, I remembered vividly as you came to defend the ruling party that it was just a mere propaganda which was not going to happen with your usual quotation of some constitutional bla! blah! However, when it eventually happened, all you did, was, open a thread to cry over a spoiled milk.

Thirdly, you have heard it severally here and offline from jonathan's supporters, that the ogogoro Master will rather hand over to the military than General Buhari, but up to this moment, we have not seen any thread from you on the development.

Meanwhile, I am not here to argue with you endlessly about your vainglorious thread on APC "propaganda" but to let you know, that the APC and some well meaning Nigerians have read the current political barometer, which is suggestive of non-interest in the election by the ruling party and are now coming out to alert Nigerians nay international community the danger and the consequences of playing and toying with destinies of Nigerians by either further postponing the general elections or instigating violence to stay put to power.

If you choose to dismiss a proactive measure by the opposition as "Propaganda", then I don't think we owe you any apology, afterall propaganda is allowed in politics.

Good night Barcanista.

arewafederation:
My dear barcanista, even if the reports about interim government are mere propaganda, I think it is a healthy one. The signs that this govt does not intend to handover to Gen. Buhari if he wins are conspicuous even to the blind. The reports even if untrue, will help checkmate the govt and could make it drop such evil intentions if it has any.

The accusations also coming from Obj gives more credibility to the "propaganda".Obj may be a disgruntled old man, but I don't think he is going to make it up. You can also give it to sahara reporters that their stories most oftrn, turn out to be true.

Nigerians need to be kept at an alert.

SeverusSnape:

Are you pained...dusty Malik
BARCANISTA said the truth, I know most of you won't agree with him, but the truth will always prevail.
Cry me a river...

barcanista:
[s]Well, first I appreciate your maturity as a progressive. I will continue to participate in politics without fear or favor but when it comes to issues that bothers on National Security, I am always being careful. If you listen to Obasanjo carefully, he wasn't even sure. First he said GEJ was training snipers, till date we haven't witnessed any politically motivated assassination. Now comes the issue of ING. The question I will throw at you is "For who" and by who? How possible and rational is that considering that the handover date, election dates all falls within a stipulated time in the constitution? On the election shift, the law permits INEC to even shift it until April 28 date. That doesn't come as a surprise but a shock. What about the ING? How will they be able to manipulate the law? Three postulations were made which is real? If you say it was to keep the government in check, the question is is it morally right to play politics with National security? Is it right to create such atmosphere because of politics? Has GMB uttered any word on this?[/s]

barcanista:
All rumours my brother. Forget about what one National Security Adviser or some group of protestera and political parties says, they cannot effect any change of date. The President cannot wake up from his slumber to announce election postponement, it is beyond him. If Council of State like let them all endorse election shift, it amounts to nullity. INEC does not take orders from anybody, let them blab.arcansita:
All rumours my brother. Forget about what one National Security Adviser or some group of protestera and political parties says, they cannot effect any change of date. The President cannot wake up from his slumber to announce election postponement, it is beyond him. If Council of State like let them all endorse election shift, it amounts to nullity. INEC does not take orders from anybody, let them blab.

barcanista:
[s]well, nowhere did I say people should not talk. First, I am not a believer of conspiracy theories. I look at the merit of every argument before taking my position(you may disagree anyway). Sometimes we all may not agree on a sÙbject or few subjects, that doesn't mean we should assume the disagreement to political disloyalty which unfortunately some "progressives" here does. As for your "newly found friends", I need to tell you that my personal relationship with people generally goes beyond political sentiment. Politics is only an aspect of my life. I won't want to join issues with some people here calling me "names".[/s]

barcanista:
well, nowhere did I say people should not talk. First, I am not a believer of conspiracy theories. I look at the [b]merit of every argument [/b]before taking my position(you may disagree anyway). Sometimes we all may not agree on a sÙbject or few subjects, that doesn't mean we should assume the disagreement to political disloyalty which unfortunately some "progressives" here does. As for your "newly found friends", I need to tell you that my personal relationship with people generally goes beyond political sentiment. Politics is only an aspect of my life. I won't want to join issues with some people here calling me "names".

GANJAFARMER:
Who die here?


I can see too many APC online supporters crying and wailing , abi Buhari dun die?

produce:
reformat yur brain

barcanista:
The content of the original post is my humble submission after proper analysis of various submission. I am 100% responsible for it and it is in tandem with my conscience and patriotism. I owe no one any apology for this write-up, neither am I promoting any partisan interest.

Abeg Seun, Obinoscopy, Ishilove and Lalasticala make una do justice to enable more contribution.

Clerverly:
I don't know the basis of your thread other than to be seen as a fair and neutral commentator. That in itself, is not a bad thing, as it positions you well in case of any eventualities, at least it would facilitate your alibi! (that's what cowards are known for, not saying you are one though)

However, I find your write up, myopic, self serving and biased!

First,You highlighted the so called "propaganda" from the Opposition camp while conveniently leaving that of the ruling party like the allegation of "Jega meeting with the APC in Dubai", "Jega sharing of PVC to goats and cows in the North" etc

Second, when the NSA flew the first Kite of election postponement, I remembered vividly as you came to defend the ruling party that it was just a mere propaganda which was not going to happen with your usual quotation of some constitutional bla! blah! This was your actual post on that thread:



However, when it eventually happened, all you did, was, open a thread to cry over a spoiled milk.

Thirdly, you have heard it severally here and offline from jonathan's supporters, that the ogogoro Master will rather hand over to the military than General Buhari, but up to this moment, we have not seen any thread from you on the development.

Meanwhile, I am not here to argue with you endlessly about your vainglorious thread on APC "propaganda" but to let you know, that the APC and some well meaning Nigerians have read the current political barometer, which is suggestive of non-interest in the election by the ruling party and are now coming out to alert Nigerians nay international community the danger and the consequences of playing and toying with destinies of Nigerians by either further postponing the general elections or instigating violence to stay put to power.

If you choose to dismiss a proactive measure by the opposition as "Propaganda", then I don't think we owe you any apology, afterall propaganda is allowed in politics.

Good night Barcanista.

barcanista:
[s]In my thread I said only Jega can postpone election, Jega did. Prior to that, it was an open secret that the NSA and the Military were in favor of poll shift. I don't see where that thread defended GEJ and PDP. It is unfortunate that you so assume along that line. You asked why I didn't write on the allegations of FFK and co, well I don't need to because they are mere aallegation. There are things I concern myself with. Well I don't think I owe you further explanation. It's a shame that you misinterpret my position for people pleasing. One thing about me is that I don't see for approval, I believe that ppl should appreciate me the way I am and not what I am not. If my position isn't in tandem to yours, state yours and let's argue like adults. Going this route will be rather unfortunate. Goodnight[/s]

barcanista:
[s]In my thread I said only Jega can postpone election, Jega did. Prior to that, it was an open secret that the NSA and the Military were in favor of poll shift. I don't see where that thread defended GEJ and PDP. It is unfortunate that you so assume along that line. You asked why I didn't write on the allegations of FFK and co, well I don't need to because they are mere aallegation. There are things I concern myself with. Well I don't think I owe you further explanation. It's a shame that you misinterpret my position for people pleasing. One thing about me is that I don't see for approval, I believe that ppl should appreciate me the way I am and not what I am not. If my position isn't in tandem to yours, state yours and let's argue like adults. Going this route will be rather unfortunate. Goodnight[/s]

Clerverly:


Full of contradictions!!

LFJ:


I always respect your view, but in this case you get it wrong. Jonathan and his people are criminals, they can dance naked in the market at this point just to prevent Buhari from getting into Aso Rock. Don't pretend that you don't know that Jonathan fear this Buhari more than he fear his God.

barcanista:
well, nowhere did I say people should not talk. First, I am not a believer of conspiracy theories. I look at the merit of every argument before taking my position(you may disagree anyway). Sometimes we all may not agree on a sÙbject or few subjects, that doesn't mean we should assume the disagreement to political disloyalty which unfortunately some "progressives" here does. As for your "newly found friends", I need to tell you that my personal relationship with people generally goes beyond political sentiment. Politics is only an aspect of my life. I won't want to join issues with some people here calling me "names".