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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by SamuelAnyawu(m): 9:59pm On Apr 16, 2021
Kaeboy:


I being telling people, the military is overwhelmed because paramilitaries like immigration and customs, civil defense, are not doing there job, military is combining there job at the border.

To me it's either you do your job or not, you can't be flying uniform and wielding weapons yet your making no impact, if I were the president, immigration border force should constitutes larger amount of immigration officer and customs combatants.

If it's training they need, they should go for training, if it's war grade weapons and equipment, provide it for them. And they should all go out and do there job and stop leaving it to military.

Military will form checkpoints in civil area because of internal security, what exactly is the job of civil defense? This particular civil defense, if I am the president, I will restructure there mandate. Plenty of them just wearing uniform doing little or nothing in the office. Every body should get there ass trained, pick up riffle and get involved in this security challenge. It shouldn't be left alone for military.

Small prison break that should be handled by correctional officers and correctional armed squad, correctional service will call military for support. They have relax because they know they will call military support any time they have challenge. They don't even do rigorous training for there men. It's wrong, the insecurity has gone beyond parade drill. Everybody should get trained like soldiers and should be combat ready. Not going about with oversized uniform and fat legs because they are not military.

NDLEA will be going on raid, it's still this same military they will call. Can't they do the right thing and train there officer to be equal to the task and do there job?

Military should only focus on the war and immigration and customs should stop running from the borders while they leave it to military. Everybody should wake up to there task.

Immigration are only interested in recruiting cute girls that are only meant for International Airport desk grin
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 10:00pm On Apr 16, 2021
JOSCOFELIX:
the military men was too much. but i heard some drone are in country.you know military are secreative. but the new commander are dangerous they just arrived some week ago.
I hope he is going to be as dangerous as Johnathan Wick cool
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by JOSCOFELIX: 10:08pm On Apr 16, 2021
DubaiLandLord:
I hope he is going to be as dangerous as Johnathan Wick cool
one day i go break your mouthhgrin

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 10:12pm On Apr 16, 2021
JOSCOFELIX:
one day i go break your mouthhgrin
grin

Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Lurker4Long: 10:58pm On Apr 16, 2021
Odunayaw:
You know it! I used to look forward to MikeCZA. 61Mech et al. Very intellectual discourse.

Now it's so much emotions and old wives fables
Now you're talking. All those guys would argue for days, but at least you'd learn something. The highlight for me remains the Frum vs Henry argument over the utility of SF vehicles that lasted months.

Completely worthless, but entertaining and informative nonetheless.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by SuperSixSeven: 11:30pm On Apr 16, 2021
bidexiii:



The NA HQ has to work on its PR, how come they atr now releasing images when media outlets has already downplayed there effort. Too bad

Deeply embarrassing to the Army. embarassed

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by SamuelAnyawu(m): 11:40pm On Apr 16, 2021
Banki Under Attack over an hour ago !!!!!!!!!!
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by SamuelAnyawu(m): 11:44pm On Apr 16, 2021
Just an hour exchange of gun fire and Heavy Artillery by the Military.

Repelled

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 11:51pm On Apr 16, 2021
Security personnel deployed to man key Nigerian land borders have not been paid their mandatory allowance for 10 months, multiple sources involved in the operation told Daily Trust.

An inter-agency operation tagged Joint Border Drill Operation was jointly piloted by the Office of the National Security Adviser (ONSA) and the Nigerian Customs Service (NCS) to ensure total compliance with the ban on movements along the border routes.

Hundreds of personnel were drawn from the NCS, Nigerian Immigration Service (NIS), police, Department of State Service (DSS), National Intelligence Agency (NIA), and the military, to form the border-manning teams.

Though the borders were reopened in December 2020, the operatives were retained and redesigned to continue surveillance and counter-smuggling. The codename for the operation was changed to Joint Border Patrol.

Comptroller General of the Nigerian Customs Service (NCS), retired Col. Hameed Ali, confirmed the change of status and expectations from the operation while speaking in February.

“We just set up a joint border patrol. It is an offshoot of the joint border drill, which was the operation we launched to close our borders,” Ali said.

In addition to other responsibilities, the operatives were tasked to stop the importation of illegal arms and contraband goods as part of efforts to address rising security challenges while at the same time boosting local production of assorted food items like rice, oil, among others.

The non-payment of the Duty Travel Allowance (DTA) for a long period is affecting morale of officers and threatening a key security operation of the country, security sources familiar with happenings said.

Located at the extreme inner corner of the Gulf of Guinea on the west coast of Africa, Nigeria occupies an area of 923,768 sq. km (356,669 sq mi), extending 1,127 km (700 mi) East to West and 1,046 km (650 mi) North to South. It is bordered by Chad, Cameroon, Niger and Benin, with a total boundary length of 4,900 km (3,045 mi), of which 853 km (530 mi) is coastline.

The deployed officers are expected to contain smuggling and protect the territorial integrity of the country which is largely porous.

Some of the affected personnel who spoke with our correspondents on the condition of anonymity for fear of victimisation, said months of unpaid allowances had rendered them all covered in debts and unable to meet up obligations to hoteliers, landlords and food vendors.

Besides low morale, officers involved in the exercise lamented that the government’s inability to meet up with its obligation is affecting the operation as it was becoming increasingly difficult to enforce discipline and ensure accountability in the line of duty.

The owed allowances were meant to cater for accommodation and feeding of the personnel who were deployed specifically to man the country’s borders following the closure of the land borders in August 2019.

The federal government, through the Minister of Finance, Budget and National Planning, Mrs Zainab Ahmed, had justified the closure of the land borders at the time, which she said will help the government address the proliferation of arms and influx of other contrabands.

The security operatives were deployed to key towns affected by the border closure including Idi-iroko, Seme, Jibia, Kamba, Kongolom, Maigatari and Illela.


The entitlements

“Like with all special operations, we were posted from different areas to join this new operation and that was why we were entitled to DTA,” one customs officer said.

The deployed operatives were placed on a daily allowance of N12, 000 for officers and N6,000 for junior ranks.

While payments were made for the first few months of the operations, largely in arrears of two to three months, it became prolonged later with personnel having to wait for months before getting anything.

Last year, after a long delay, arrears for four months was paid. However, since May last year, not a dime was paid to the personnel in the name of the allowances.

Sources at the customs and ONSA told our reporter that the delay was being caused by the Federal Ministry of Finance, which has the mandate of funds releases.

“The office in charge of that operation at ONSA has written nothing less than three letters to the Ministry of Finance on this issue but they are yet to oblige,” said one source who craved for anonymity as he has no permission to speak.


Dire condition

Some operatives who spoke on the condition of anonymity lamented that they have been neglected despite the enormous responsibility placed on them.

“Morale is low because there is no motivation, which is very important for the success of any operation,” a unit commander involved in the operation told one of our reporters.

He said the personnel involved in the operation are being “made vulnerable to compromise”, with many of them owing hoteliers and giving out personal belongings as collateral.

“Our people are sacrificing. A number of our people have been killed either by smugglers or insurgents yet we have made huge recoveries all over the place. But with this nonchalant attitude, morale is honestly diving,” the source said.

He explained that it was becoming increasingly difficult to enforce discipline as men often challenge their superiors or justify their acts of compromise.

“The low morale is also breeding insubordination as enforcement of discipline is becoming very tough. You will ask your men to do something but they will be very lethargic about it or even reject it outright. This is dangerous for the success of the operation.”

With the dangers insecure borders pose to Nigeria’s security as major entry points of light arms, a senior security source familiar with the operation lamented that toying with the welfare of the men may have a dire consequence on Nigeria’s security.


Finance ministry, Customs shifty

The Federal Ministry of Finance and the Customs appeared to be shifting roles over the unpaid allowances.

When contacted on the delay in paying the border operatives their entitlements, Yunusa Tanko, who is the Special Adviser, Media and Communications to the Minister of Finance, Budget and National Planning, said the issue was purely a customs matter.

“Please, I don’t understand this enquiry honestly. Did customs tell you their money is released and that of the patrol team held back?

“This is purely a custom issue not ministry of finance so direct your enquiry to the proper channel/agency.”

Contacted, NCS spokesman, Joseph Attah, said he was not aware of the issue.

He, however, noted that customs has been at the fore of the operation and had provided all the required needs for the operatives to ensure high morale.


It’s dangerous to toy with security

A security expert, Salihu Bakhari, said the federal government must always fulfil its own part of the obligation to discourage security operatives from compromising themselves.

“You see, most of the operatives deployed for such exercise were brought together from different places. They left their families behind in order to protect the territorial integrity of the country.

“I know that most VIPs especially politicians and chief executives of agencies collect their allowances long before they travel…It is therefore very sad to hear that security operatives who put their lives on the line are neglected.

“This attitude makes them prone to corruption because they are easily compromised by high profile smugglers who would give them a lot of money to have their way.

“There is a strong correlation between the infiltration of illegal arms and our porous borders. The federal government and the frontline state governments must come together and fund border security,” he said.

https://dailytrust.com/10-month-pay-delay-threatens-border-security-operations
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by IGpro1(m): 12:05am On Apr 17, 2021
DubaiLandLord:
Why can't I mention you? Go and create your own site, so you can choose who will quote you and who won't quote you.
Werey don meet another Werey, them they mention each other they argue who first mention,

at least it keeps you away from negative reportage.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Stormtrooper11(m): 12:57am On Apr 17, 2021
DubaiLandLord:
Why can't I mention you? Go and create your own site, so you can choose who will quote you and who won't quote you.
Did i say you shouldn't mention me?
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Stormtrooper11(m): 1:06am On Apr 17, 2021
IGpro1:
Werey don meet another Werey, them they mention each other they argue who first mention,

at least it keeps you away from negative reportage.

Lol. My only fault in my arguments is that i gave wrong information about the location of the artillery school
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by SamuelAnyawu(m): 3:35am On Apr 17, 2021
I’m not sure the Army said it was the three days ago Damasak attack

Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Xbee007(m): 3:45am On Apr 17, 2021
SamuelAnyawu:
I’m not sure the Army said it was the three days ago Damasak attack
Why use old images though? The army has once again allowed Twitter husslers aka, "terrorism experts" to start controlling the narrative. This is why we are seeing lots of made up names of ISWAP fighters claimed killed. Nigeria army and the DSS do not have enough intelligence to actually tell the names of dead terrorists that accurately and consistently.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by GeneralFarouq: 6:15am On Apr 17, 2021
Xbee007:

Why use old images though? The army has once again allowed Twitter husslers aka, "terrorism experts" to start controlling the narrative. This is why we are seeing lots of made up names of ISWAP fighters claimed killed. Nigeria army and the DSS do not have enough intelligence to actually tell the names of dead terrorists that accurately and consistently.
Captured BH can tell the names of killed commanders. To be a BH commander u must have been one of them for a reasonable lenght of time, so other members would have known or heard of u.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by justtoodark: 7:26am On Apr 17, 2021
DubaiLandLord:
Security personnel deployed to man key Nigerian land borders have not been paid their mandatory allowance for 10 months, multiple sources involved in the operation told Daily Trust.

An inter-agency operation tagged Joint Border Drill Operation was jointly piloted by the Office of the National Security Adviser (ONSA) and the Nigerian Customs Service (NCS) to ensure total compliance with the ban on movements along the border routes.

Hundreds of personnel were drawn from the NCS, Nigerian Immigration Service (NIS), police, Department of State Service (DSS), National Intelligence Agency (NIA), and the military, to form the border-manning teams.

Though the borders were reopened in December 2020, the operatives were retained and redesigned to continue surveillance and counter-smuggling. The codename for the operation was changed to Joint Border Patrol.

Comptroller General of the Nigerian Customs Service (NCS), retired Col. Hameed Ali, confirmed the change of status and expectations from the operation while speaking in February.

“We just set up a joint border patrol. It is an offshoot of the joint border drill, which was the operation we launched to close our borders,” Ali said.

In addition to other responsibilities, the operatives were tasked to stop the importation of illegal arms and contraband goods as part of efforts to address rising security challenges while at the same time boosting local production of assorted food items like rice, oil, among others.

The non-payment of the Duty Travel Allowance (DTA) for a long period is affecting morale of officers and threatening a key security operation of the country, security sources familiar with happenings said.

Located at the extreme inner corner of the Gulf of Guinea on the west coast of Africa, Nigeria occupies an area of 923,768 sq. km (356,669 sq mi), extending 1,127 km (700 mi) East to West and 1,046 km (650 mi) North to South. It is bordered by Chad, Cameroon, Niger and Benin, with a total boundary length of 4,900 km (3,045 mi), of which 853 km (530 mi) is coastline.

The deployed officers are expected to contain smuggling and protect the territorial integrity of the country which is largely porous.

Some of the affected personnel who spoke with our correspondents on the condition of anonymity for fear of victimisation, said months of unpaid allowances had rendered them all covered in debts and unable to meet up obligations to hoteliers, landlords and food vendors.

Besides low morale, officers involved in the exercise lamented that the government’s inability to meet up with its obligation is affecting the operation as it was becoming increasingly difficult to enforce discipline and ensure accountability in the line of duty.

The owed allowances were meant to cater for accommodation and feeding of the personnel who were deployed specifically to man the country’s borders following the closure of the land borders in August 2019.

The federal government, through the Minister of Finance, Budget and National Planning, Mrs Zainab Ahmed, had justified the closure of the land borders at the time, which she said will help the government address the proliferation of arms and influx of other contrabands.

The security operatives were deployed to key towns affected by the border closure including Idi-iroko, Seme, Jibia, Kamba, Kongolom, Maigatari and Illela.


The entitlements

“Like with all special operations, we were posted from different areas to join this new operation and that was why we were entitled to DTA,” one customs officer said.

The deployed operatives were placed on a daily allowance of N12, 000 for officers and N6,000 for junior ranks.

While payments were made for the first few months of the operations, largely in arrears of two to three months, it became prolonged later with personnel having to wait for months before getting anything.

Last year, after a long delay, arrears for four months was paid. However, since May last year, not a dime was paid to the personnel in the name of the allowances.

Sources at the customs and ONSA told our reporter that the delay was being caused by the Federal Ministry of Finance, which has the mandate of funds releases.

“The office in charge of that operation at ONSA has written nothing less than three letters to the Ministry of Finance on this issue but they are yet to oblige,” said one source who craved for anonymity as he has no permission to speak.


Dire condition

Some operatives who spoke on the condition of anonymity lamented that they have been neglected despite the enormous responsibility placed on them.

“Morale is low because there is no motivation, which is very important for the success of any operation,” a unit commander involved in the operation told one of our reporters.

He said the personnel involved in the operation are being “made vulnerable to compromise”, with many of them owing hoteliers and giving out personal belongings as collateral.

“Our people are sacrificing. A number of our people have been killed either by smugglers or insurgents yet we have made huge recoveries all over the place. But with this nonchalant attitude, morale is honestly diving,” the source said.

He explained that it was becoming increasingly difficult to enforce discipline as men often challenge their superiors or justify their acts of compromise.

“The low morale is also breeding insubordination as enforcement of discipline is becoming very tough. You will ask your men to do something but they will be very lethargic about it or even reject it outright. This is dangerous for the success of the operation.”

With the dangers insecure borders pose to Nigeria’s security as major entry points of light arms, a senior security source familiar with the operation lamented that toying with the welfare of the men may have a dire consequence on Nigeria’s security.


Finance ministry, Customs shifty

The Federal Ministry of Finance and the Customs appeared to be shifting roles over the unpaid allowances.

When contacted on the delay in paying the border operatives their entitlements, Yunusa Tanko, who is the Special Adviser, Media and Communications to the Minister of Finance, Budget and National Planning, said the issue was purely a customs matter.

“Please, I don’t understand this enquiry honestly. Did customs tell you their money is released and that of the patrol team held back?

“This is purely a custom issue not ministry of finance so direct your enquiry to the proper channel/agency.”

Contacted, NCS spokesman, Joseph Attah, said he was not aware of the issue.

He, however, noted that customs has been at the fore of the operation and had provided all the required needs for the operatives to ensure high morale.


It’s dangerous to toy with security

A security expert, Salihu Bakhari, said the federal government must always fulfil its own part of the obligation to discourage security operatives from compromising themselves.

“You see, most of the operatives deployed for such exercise were brought together from different places. They left their families behind in order to protect the territorial integrity of the country.

“I know that most VIPs especially politicians and chief executives of agencies collect their allowances long before they travel…It is therefore very sad to hear that security operatives who put their lives on the line are neglected.

“This attitude makes them prone to corruption because they are easily compromised by high profile smugglers who would give them a lot of money to have their way.

“There is a strong correlation between the infiltration of illegal arms and our porous borders. The federal government and the frontline state governments must come together and fund border security,” he said.

https://dailytrust.com/10-month-pay-delay-threatens-border-security-operations

wait....daily allowance of N12, 000 for officers and N6,000 for junior ranks....??

what does that even mean....
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by JOSCOFELIX: 7:32am On Apr 17, 2021
Xbee007:

Why use old images though? The army has once again allowed Twitter husslers aka, "terrorism experts" to start controlling the narrative. This is why we are seeing lots of made up names of ISWAP fighters claimed killed. Nigeria army and the DSS do not have enough intelligence to actually tell the names of dead terrorists that accurately and consistently.
you think the military do not have spy in those terroist? information from local who know those guy are being given to the military. if the army was lieing about the death, by now bh/iswap who have come out to speak

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Kalapizim(m): 8:21am On Apr 17, 2021
Stormtrooper11:

Sorry i made a mistake. Kontagora is the HQ of artillery corps.
So na Corps HQ you do your training abi YOC ba grin

See cruise

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Valkrie: 9:10am On Apr 17, 2021
Kalapizim:
So na Corps HQ you do your training abi YOC ba grin

See cruise

Wait o..these kind person wey no know where him even train...if them give am gun how him go know who to shoot and who not to shoot?
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Odunayaw(m): 9:34am On Apr 17, 2021
Xbee007:

Why use old images though? The army has once again allowed Twitter husslers aka, "terrorism experts" to start controlling the narrative. This is why we are seeing lots of made up names of ISWAP fighters claimed killed. Nigeria army and the DSS do not have enough intelligence to actually tell the names of dead terrorists that accurately and consistently.
Its not like they've been naming all terrorists that have been gunned down. Knowing the names of "commanders" isn't hardwork. Both locals & captured terrorists all know the name and face of their chain of command

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by EricBraven: 10:21am On Apr 17, 2021
Xbee007:

Why use old images though? The army has once again allowed Twitter husslers aka, "terrorism experts" to start controlling the narrative. This is why we are seeing lots of made up names of ISWAP fighters claimed killed. Nigeria army and the DSS do not have enough intelligence to actually tell the names of dead terrorists that accurately and consistently.
Have you tried to check the names of the commanders killed before this list and crosscheck it with the one Boko haram realise. I think you should try to cos that will clear a lot of doubt

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 10:22am On Apr 17, 2021
SamuelAnyawu:


Immigration are only interested in recruiting cute girls that are only meant for International Airport desk grin
grin grin grin. Chaiii immigration have fine girls. Even there men, fine fine.

No border force for maximum border security, just ironed uniform and vibes.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by EricBraven: 10:25am On Apr 17, 2021
SamuelAnyawu:
I’m not sure the Army said it was the three days ago Damasak attack
Then this will also make me ask this question, why did ISWAP stop their attack on damasak, if nothing happened i think it is best to assume that they will keep on coming to attack damasak. But it also best to believe something happened which deterred them from coming

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by JOSCOFELIX: 10:42am On Apr 17, 2021
over 20 mrap enter our country from uae and more coming. 10 was deliver last weakt or early this week .the next delivery will be mbt, bigfroot ,sti 1 tank, artlilary and airdefence system from china
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by youghs: 11:35am On Apr 17, 2021
JOSCOFELIX:
over 20 mrap enter our country from uae and more coming. 10 was deliver last weakt or early this week .the next delivery will be mbt, bigfroot ,sti 1 tank, artlilary and airdefence system from china

Yesterday

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by iblawi(m): 11:49am On Apr 17, 2021
youghs:


Yesterday

Looks like Ara1
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 12:12pm On Apr 17, 2021
Stormtrooper11:

Did i say you shouldn't mention me?
Abeg carry your senseless and directionless talk comot my front.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by youghs: 12:41pm On Apr 17, 2021
iblawi:

Looks like Ara1
Isotrex mrap
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by SuperSixSeven: 12:56pm On Apr 17, 2021
JOSCOFELIX:
over 20 mrap enter our country from uae and more coming. 10 was deliver last weakt or early this week .the next delivery will be mbt, bigfroot ,sti 1 tank, artlilary and airdefence system from china

No nuclear bombs on delivery? sad

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by iblawi(m): 1:28pm On Apr 17, 2021
youghs:


Isotrex mrap

I mean them look alike. As if they use the same chassis and design is similar to Ara1.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by JOSCOFELIX: 1:36pm On Apr 17, 2021
IF THE NIGERIA NAVY WILL WANT TO BUY A FRIGATE, HOW MANY WILL YOU WANT THEM TO BUY, AND FROM WHICH COUNTRY.

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