nuzo:

Do you think the officer did the right thing by letting you go?
So, if it was in the states, a policeman would let you go if you were driving without driver's license?. . . . jeez.

This is the reason why nigerians are to be blamed. How could a car owner be driving for over a decade without a driver's license? You should have been arrested on the spot.

@topic

NPF is very corrupt and brave while the nigerian civilians are not only corrupt but a bunch of born cowards, hypocrites and sycophants.

FBS:

@nuzo, I think you have a problem. Why generalize everyone?

THE NPF is madly corrupt or don't you think so?
Yes, they will be some good ones among them but nobody want to lose his/her life over 20 naira and like someone said, Nigeria is no country for heroes.

If you are that brave, why don't you start the fight and take the struggle to the street. Surely, you should have ways to do that.

The thing is these people are trained to collect bribes.

Kobojunkie:

Actually, Yes. It is not a crime to forget your license at home. Depending on your record, you might be given a warning, or told to report with it to the court to clear yourself.

oyb:

i hope we will see you display your bravery at Tienanmen Square, episode  II

nuzo:

You have just displayed what you accused me of; generalization. . . . now, who is the person with the problem?

Yes, they will be some good ones among them

nuzo:

Secondly, I am no saint but I usually do everything legally possible to keep up to date with the law whenever am in nigeria. But the few times i met the corrupt policemen demanding for bribe; i slug it out with them. I have been taken to their station several times and came out victorious as their oga usually rain courses on them for unduly harassing me.

Everybody loves life, but i dont consider living in such decay as life.

[b]However, most nigerians are constantly harassed by policemen because of their rude attitude of presenting our cases, not necessarily because of bribes.[/b]I could still remember a situation where one hopeless nigerian wanted to fight a policeman for checking up his documents.
In this case, the police let him go without checking his previous records or documenting this crime. Am not sure that a good policeman would be so lazy to do that.

Do you want to compare the nigerian police to that of chinese? Better dont go there. . . .

Moonstone:

LOL - This is like asking a hungry man if he would eat if he saw a source of food. Nigerian Policemen, most of them, are easily bribed because of the conditions they face in Nigeria. I don't blame them because when you have 5 kids to feed and you're living on a mediocre salary, bribery does not begin to look like a crime again. If they were paid half as much as other police, they would not have to receive bribes. I blame the government for the bribes jare!

Kobojunkie:

Even when their pay was ok back some years ago, they still collected bribe. You blame the government for a man's continued choice to be dishonest when you are willing to admit that there are those amongst them who choose not to be? Come on!!! If the police pay is not good for you why not protest or find you something else to do rather than harrass and take out your anger on those in public? I am sorry, these excuses are not cutting it. Yes, the government s bad but if they are not willing to protest/walk off/fight to change things, are you telling me that the members of the public who are bullied by these men are just casualties and nothing more?
Why have 5 kids on a salary you know can not cut it?

Moonstone:

I blame the government because the corruption in those high ranks trickle down to the lowest levels. If the government was not so corrupt, would the policemen be earning so little? The thing about it is that we all know that money is going to the Judicial levels and we see it because the IGs and AIGs are busy racking up serious amount of millions and building ridiculous houses everywhere. If the police pay is not good and you know there is so much underemployment, would you rather stay and be earning a little money or would you leave your job in search of another job you may never find? They make do with what they have because that is their only choice. Labour unions especially those of Teachers are the only group of people who walk off and get result. As bad as Nigeria is with Armed robbery and kidnapping, you want them to walk off? Anyway, it's not like they are that useful in that respect. Members of the public bribe their ways through everything including college and even work applications. If they can do that, why must we only shout about one segment. Nigerian policemen are not the only ones collecting bribes and this shows that there is something wrong with the system in the country.
You know how people are with family planning. . . some of them don't even know how to use condoms and they rack babies up thinking it was supposed to be that way.

amaikama:

nuzo!!! slug it out with n9ja police over bribe and u live to tell the tale abi? hhhhhmmmmm!!! well, sha!!!! make u no make the ones wey smoke ganja come slug it out with u oooo!! on one on one bases where no one will see u. they will surely snif life out of u and nobody cares to look for u. china u no go go again.

How many times u hear say n9ja police find somebody wey lost for the past years in History of this country? my broda, abeg if u and them dey argue, just maintain, no be say u dey fear but fear the people wey u leave for house make then no worri to much.

A word is enough for those who want to hear but refuse to hear and learn.

ladoma:

as a civil servant when you are transfered or sent on course,you are paid.so also in the banks.not so in the police.you use your salary to attend that course and how much is the salary by the way.
this is february 18 th 2009,go and ask ,many police officers are yet to collect the pittance paid which is called january salary.can you imagine, a man who is to defend you and stop corruption according to you ,two months into the year is yet to collect a dime.that policeman is hungry and angry.he sees affluence all round him,he sees his colleagues being killed daily,he hears himself being called all sorts of names by those he is defending,nobody cares about him.he is frustrated.he is mad.so what do you expect.

Kobojunkie:

Is this the story you are willing to FEED the next family that loosesa son/daughter/mother/ father/ cousin? Is this really what you will tell them for reason why you do not believe these policemen are to be held accountable for their actions?

Moonstone:

It is not a story. It is the fact. I am not saying all the blame should be placed on the govt. Like you rightly said, some are good. All I'm saying is that we should trace the origin of this rubbish. Policemen should be held accountable to some extent but majority of the fault is the Govt's.

Kobojunkie:

We All know the origin of the problem in Nigeria, THE NIGERIAN PEOPLE who allowed all this to happen in the first place and continue even 10 years after official starting of  a democracy ( Government for the people by the people).  

If they should be held accountable TO SOME EXTENT are you saying when a person is killed for not paying bribe ( even though this does not happen often), the cop should not be given full punishment for the crime?

Moonstone:

I agree that Nigerian People should be blamed for this.

If a cop kills a person who does not pay bribe, that's taking it too far now. It is no longer just murder, it's now murder and extortion.

Moonstone:

If a cop is asking for bribe - I'm saying you should blame it on the fact that he's living on a very low salary with the Government paying little to no attention to him as an individual.

Moonstone:

If that cop decides to take it to another level such are murder or assault, it's now a personal issue pertaining to just him. Majority of the policemen ask for bribes but very few of them kill or beat one up because of it.
They might give you a tough time and all but they usually don't go as far as killing or beating.

Kobojunkie:

So if a cop does not ask for bribe but does his job and lets me go, what should I blame it on?

So If I get bullied and beaten by a cop, it is government’s fault. What if I don’t get bullied at all, what do I blame it on?

Moonstone:

If he does not ask for bribe? or if he asks for a bribe?

Moonstone:

If he lets you go and you don't give him a bribe, it's a thing of individuality of situation at that point.

Moonstone:

The Government should be blamed for such low salaries and blatant disregard for the cops.

Moonstone:

If the cop on his own decides not to go for a bribe, some people end up "dashing" them money anyways. Some people do recognize that there are other ways to go about getting money but most of them act like that because of greed and they see it as the only option to keeping themselves afloat.
If you don't get bullied at all, why would you blame someone for that? If you don't get bullied, praise the cop's personality.

nuzo:

Quote from: A-town on Yesterday at 10:09:05 PM
The fact is that some of them are still sane.
An officer stopped me once and i told him i forgot my license at home and he told me to go without trying to demand for anything. I couldn't believe it and thought i was still in the states.


Do you think the officer did the right thing by letting you go?
So, if it was in the states, a policeman would let you go if you were driving without driver's license?. . . . jeez.


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On the other hand, a bunch of them also stopped me one time and i told them the same story (i obviously didn't have one then cos the one i had expired like a decade ago).
They immediately demanded for settlement. I said i didn't have any money on me and they told me that there are ATMS around. Can you beat that.

This is the reason why nigerians are to be blamed. How could a car owner be driving for over a decade without a driver's license? You should have been arrested on the spot.

@topic

NPF is very corrupt and brave while the nigerian civilians are not only corrupt but a bunch of born cowards, hypocrites and sycophants.

What the f.uck is your problem. Are you a f.ucking retard or something. I hate when people like you try to act smart without asking for full details before misyarning. F.UCKING idiot. I usually don't get angry but i am willing to unleash my anger on you for such a retarded comment.

In the states, the officer would have asked me for my license number and i would have told him. He can also use my S.S.N to find out if i have any warrants. If he's not satisfied, he would issue me a citation and FUCKING LET ME GO. I would get home, get my license, go to the court and clear out my citation. Naija has no court for you to go to. Did you expect the officer to hold me when i said my license was at home. The right thing to do is let me go or give me a fine (which is non existent and has been taken over by bribes). There is no verification system in naija.

For the second scenario, i little bit of patience would have shown you that i was just back in the country at the time. Did you expect me to show my U.S drivers license so that they can milk me for my entire life savings. It only costs 5000 naira to get a license. Do you think it is possible for anyone to be driving for 10 yrs in naija without getting a licence. You are an idiot. Why would i risk police harrassment for 10yrs. Stop trying to pick on words and focus on the main issue. If i had removed the statement about my licence expiring, it won't have changed my point so get lost and go F.UCK yourself

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Typical nigerian

A-town:

What the f.uck is your problem. Are you a f.ucking retard or something. I hate when people like you try to act smart without asking for full details before misyarning. F.UCKING idiot. I usually don't get angry but i am willing to unleash my anger on you for such a retarded comment.

In the states, the officer would have asked me for my license number and i would have told him. He can also use my S.S.N to find out if i have any warrants. If he's not satisfied, he would issue me a citation and FUCKING LET ME GO. I would get home, get my license, go to the court and clear out my citation. Naija has no court for you to go to. Did you expect the officer to hold me when i said my license was at home. The right thing to do is let me go or give me a fine (which is non existent and has been taken over by bribes). There is no verification system in naija.

For the second scenario, i little bit of patience would have shown you that i was just back in the country at the time. Did you expect me to show my U.S drivers license so that they can milk me for my entire life savings. It only costs 5000 naira to get a license. Do you think it is possible for anyone to be driving for 10 yrs in naija without getting a licence. You are an idiot. Why would i risk police harrassment for 10yrs. Stop trying to pick on words and focus on the main issue. If i had removed the statement about my licence expiring, it won't have changed my point so get lost and go F.UCK yourself

Kobojunkie:

So I should blame Government ONLY IF a policeman does something wrong?

If it is about individual choices, then why then do I blame government when a policeman does wrong but not blame government when policeman does his job as he should?


Now I can agree with the above, but I still see no connection to the above and the blaming of government when a policeman who as an individual chooses to do wrong, when we also admit that there are policemen out there who choose instead to do right.

So if I get bullied, I blame government but if I don’t get bullied, I praise the cop? Do I also praise Government in the latter case then? I mean since Government seems to have a share of the blame in the former.

Last time i checked, this was/is a nigerian site and has 99% nigerian members. If it suprises you that i am a typical nigerian then you need to wake up because.  .  .   . Guess what - You r one toooooooooo