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|Re: Let's Talk About Marriage(homosexuality,polygamy And Others) by Nobody: 12:02am On Jun 29, 2015|
The truth is that monogamous women are scared, they can't bear the thought of sharing their husbands... They know that polygamy threatens their tranquility, that is why they are all here contradicting themselves, excuse me, if I want to marry 3 wives, i'd let it known, if you don't want, marry someone else or divorce me, which of us is the selfish person here, me who wants another wife or you who wants to hold me into accepting what you want against what I want... Holding down a polygamous man to a monogamous marriage is selfish in itself.. wonder why those who oppose polygamy are mostly monogamous women, monogamous arrangements suits them just fine, it favours them, so ya'll don't have the right to talk about selfishness, if you recognise the right of men marrying other willing men, then you shouldn't bother with men marrying numerous willing women...
Men do not even have a problem with women marrying more than one husband, the problem is, how many men are willing to become a second husband? Anyway, if a woman can find them, she's free to marry them....
Polygamy/polyandry should be legalised..
|Re: Let's Talk About Marriage(homosexuality,polygamy And Others) by bellong: 12:32am On Jun 29, 2015|
Lo, this only have I found, that God hath made man upright; but they have have sought out many inventions.
What is hypocrisy? An expression of agreement that is not supported by real conviction..
How can you be an hypocrite for not supporting what you don't have conviction in. The people calling others hypocrites are the REAL hypocrites.. Some of them do not even understand the LGBT relationship but only want to follow the norm to be seen as modern.
Should we also call them hypocrites when a man decides to marry more than 2 wives and they condemn the act outrightly
There is a thin line between same sex union and different sex multiple union. One involves putting a lock in a lock while the other is putting a key in a lock. If the same sex union can produce a natural offspring without external manipulation, then we can take it as a natural order. Polygamy and "gayism" are both age long practise frowned upon by God. With the daily re-interpretation of marriage, polygamy is the least of our worries..
especially if it is a Christian brother or sister involved;Yet we have Christian gays?
There is a clear instruction from God to Christians on same sex relationship. Anyone that willfully violate the instruction openly disregard the law of God. A Christian always seek to please His Lord.
Should we call those opposing polygamy hypocrites? If they have conviction in their opposition, NO. And if they have no conviction in their opposition, YES.
|Re: Let's Talk About Marriage(homosexuality,polygamy And Others) by Kimoni: 7:24am On Jun 29, 2015|
Caitlyn Jenner, gay marriage legalization, ISIS - these are just signs of the end times (shhhhhhhhhhh if you dare say this too loud, you will be called a conspiracy theorist or a holier-than-thou, self righteous......)
Combining what Coogar, Damiso and Lolad has said and you will have an idea of what's true happening. The true idea of marriage keeps getting unpopular everyday, woe betide you in the West if you have decide to champion what you believe in rather than modern day movements. And we haven't even started, humans are marrying animals, dolls, trees etc they call it marriage and want the same rights
...and Bellong has summed it up...
|Re: Let's Talk About Marriage(homosexuality,polygamy And Others) by damiso(f): 7:59am On Jun 29, 2015|
Let's even leave bible out of it.. The mainstream media can like to talk out of both sides of the mouth ehn.
Everyone was #jesuischarlie in Jan cos the attack was unwarranted and horrible.Everyone was raking you can't defeat us , you can't take away people's rights to freedom of speech bla bla.
Fast forward to March Steffano Gabbana gave an interview that he felt children were better off in the traditional family of a father and mother. He is even gay o but that's his opinion and he was not talking to anybody directly.Elton John sha made himself the gay parent advocate and waged a Twitter war. Within hours zillions of celebrities had joined and #boycottdolce&Gabbana was trending for days.
Like seriously another person is not allowed to have a different opinion? Did he say Elton John should stop being a father to his kids?No he just made his own belief known. Everyone tried to browbeat him into an apology for having a different opinion.
|Re: Let's Talk About Marriage(homosexuality,polygamy And Others) by Nobody: 8:08am On Jun 29, 2015|
I've asked this repeatedly.... How many women are clamouring for polygamy? They are the ones being acquired. So how many are actually willing to be 2nd, 3rd wife, etc..
The wishes of the man only cannot be obeyed.
|Re: Let's Talk About Marriage(homosexuality,polygamy And Others) by Nobody: 8:11am On Jun 29, 2015|
You've not talked of the ills of your country and how you'll explain them to your kids, your're talking of a far away country.
|Re: Let's Talk About Marriage(homosexuality,polygamy And Others) by Kimoni: 8:17am On Jun 29, 2015|
How Damiso? If one leaves the bible out of it, one will either join them or run mad trying to explain it.
How does one begin to rationalize or explain all these end-time events? See ESPN bypassing true sport heroes and picking Bruce/Caityln instead. How else does one explain that madness?
I am glad Steffano called their bluff when they were threatening to boycott his labels. Those guys are ready to devour even their own. It's as bad as that.
Same thing happened to Snoop Dogg who was bold enough air his views on Caityln and Akon, unfortunately, he still had to bow to pressure and brought down the post. It's a lonely world out there for anybody who wishes to speak what he believes. Kudos to Ben Carson.
The truth is now a crime
|Re: Let's Talk About Marriage(homosexuality,polygamy And Others) by freecocoa(f): 8:26am On Jun 29, 2015|
Polygyny is just really all about the man so I don't see how that should be compared with homosexuality.
Till it can be proven that people aren't born gay, will I have a rethink on the matter and even so, I don't see how being gay affects non-gay people, so what's the noise really all about?
Y'all talk about inbreeding being legalised and all, was it not okay in the time of Jesus? What's new in this our world? Abegi.
|Re: Let's Talk About Marriage(homosexuality,polygamy And Others) by damiso(f): 9:47am On Jun 29, 2015|
I said lets leave the Bible out of it because not everyone is a Christian.
I am looking at it more from the angle of free speech or everyone being entitled to hold their own beliefs even if it is contrary to what you believe.
Imagine the reaction if it was the other way round, and someone said children don't do well in Traditional mother/father families. I doubt it will even be news. People say marriage is crap all the time, people say Christians are nutters who believe that snakes can talk , people say all sorts that's why they say there is free speech. Free speech is not only for when the person is saying what we want to hear, free speech is sometimes having to listen to stuff that you don't agree with but being civil enough to disagree without trying to ram your opinion down the other person's throat.
In my opinion as much people say the west is a free world where everyone can believe or do what they like as long as they don't hurt anyone, its actually far from the truth. And in some instances that's a good thing as some speech can cause offence to others e.g. se.xism,racism and even homophobic hate speech e.g. all gay people should be shot . However, its beginning to cross the line into the force feeding esp from the LBGT lobby group when simply saying I believe marriage is between a man and a woman is seen as homophobia.
|Re: Let's Talk About Marriage(homosexuality,polygamy And Others) by crackhaus: 11:23am On Jun 29, 2015|
freecocoa:Explain how it's all about the man, are you saying there are no women who willingly engage in polygamy?
Same way polygamy doesn't affect people in non-polygamous unions.
Err, has it been proven that people can be born gay?
Please provide the scientific study while at it...
Inbreeding was okay in the time of Jesus?
Anyway, it's not really about anyone supporting inbreeding directly...it's about spotting the obvious bias in criminalizing certain forms of sexual deviancy while legalizing others when at the end of the day, they're all sexual deviances regardless how much they try to paint it.
That two consenting adult males/females decide to have sexual relations with themselves causes harm no one else is the same way two consenting adult siblings should be allowed to have sexual relations as they're also not harming anyone else.
And that a man decides to marry more than one woman when the women involved have no qualms about it is enough to make it legal also...or who are they causing harm to?
That a homosexual has no control over who he/she is attracted to despite being of the same sex is the same way a man/woman can have no control over being attracted to a relative despite their blood connection...so what exactly is the problem?
A polygamous man also loves women so much he wants to marry more than one legally, is it his fault he likes women a lot?
Isn't it better he married them legally than having side-chics and babymamas all over the place? Why is this illegal then?
As a matter of fact, the man with tons of side-chics and babymamas is really more Godless and immoral than the one who marries them legally...so again, what exactly is the problem with that?
There's no argument in favour of homosexuality that I can't counter with a 1000 different points or dissect in 10 different places (pardon the exaggeration)
Still hoping you show a scientific study/proof on how anyone can be born gay without it being some malfunction in their genetic and biological wiring...
In fact, homosexuality should be reclassified as a mental disorder.
|Re: Let's Talk About Marriage(homosexuality,polygamy And Others) by Nobody: 11:34am On Jun 29, 2015|
How about you stop looking at it from a man's perspective and look at it from a woman's perspective also? Aren't we trying to be fair to both parties?
Conduct a census here on Nairaland and ask the females how many of them would really and truly love to marry polygamous men.
Therein lies your answer.
|Re: Let's Talk About Marriage(homosexuality,polygamy And Others) by crackhaus: 11:40am On Jun 29, 2015|
njokusboy:That's the thing, the women who are vehemently opposed to polygamy know this, hence their distaste for it.
No matter how pretty or gorgeous a woman is, the probability of her finding two men willing to be married to her legally at the same time is very slim...almost impossible if she's not living in Kuwait, Zimbabwe, or India.
But even an ugly man with the bank account of an Egyptian Pharaoh will have no problem getting at least two women.
Heck, he doesn't even have to be filthy rich...just comfortable and blessed with the tongue of a serpent is enough to get him two wives - but trust women to refer to other women in polygamous unions as having low self-esteem...forgetting that wanting your man to yourself alone because of fear that he might begin cherishing the other woman more than you, can also be seen as low self-esteem.
|Re: Let's Talk About Marriage(homosexuality,polygamy And Others) by crackhaus: 11:51am On Jun 29, 2015|
masonkz:You mean on this same Nairaland where we have feminists who have never gone out on street protests or carried placards for their cause?
On this same Nairaland where some women have claimed that when they get home from work, they don't cook because their husbands came home first?
Bro, conduct a survey on Nairaland at your own peril...most of these folks on here lie out of their teeth and you will never get accurate results.
Why don't you take a look at the real world instead and count how many young girls/women have and are still dating married men, do you not know that most of them will readily jump at the opportunity of being wife number 2?
Some even plot how they will dethrone the first wife and become wife number 1...
What about the ones already in polygamous marriages? I'm pretty sure they never had that aspiration in life of being a numbered wife.
|Re: Let's Talk About Marriage(homosexuality,polygamy And Others) by Nobody: 11:56am On Jun 29, 2015|
Dude, you still aren't saying much.
My question is, do women actually agitate for polygamous marriage as men do?? Are there women who would really wanna be wife number 2, 3, etc? It's as simple as that. If there are, and the numbers are well enough for the courts to look into when they start with their petitions, trust me the US would very much look into legalising it.
Men shouldn't be the only ones gaining from polygamy.
|Re: Let's Talk About Marriage(homosexuality,polygamy And Others) by Nobody: 12:00pm On Jun 29, 2015|
my point exactly, nd they yap about how polygamous men are selfish, forgetting that keeping a man who "would marry 2 wives if he could", to yourself is selfish too... monogamous people insisting that polygamous people must accept monogamy is the height of selfishness...
we agree, polyandry should be legalised too, i wish them goodluck in their ultimate search
|Re: Let's Talk About Marriage(homosexuality,polygamy And Others) by edwife(f): 12:03pm On Jun 29, 2015|
Which parties are you talking about?How many women in polygamy have disclosed to you that they don't like being first or second wife?
Leave Nairaland out of it,how many even say the truth about their personal lives?Besides this is not even a quarter of the Nigerian population...
How many girls you know sleep with married men?how many are today baby mama from men they know very well have a wife or a girlfriend?
Who force them into such relationship?who benefit from being a baby mama?
Are those women babies?are they force to remain in such relationship?
Caroline Danjuma is married to a man who has been married 4 times,yet no one forced her to marry him innit?
Right now there is a new chic on the block who is a very successful woman but all her accomplishments don't mean nothing because she is busy frolicking with Danjuma and rubbing it on Caroline's face.
Why is she not leaving?now if the man decides to marry this one,is caroline being forced to stay?
I begi y'all should stop talking about the man being selfish,when there are women out there ,working class ladies for that matter busy chasing after married men and don't mind being side chic,when a man decides to have both,he is selfish.
It is quite simply,whenever your husband decides to marry a second wife,leave the marriage.No one is forcing you to stay,the moment you stay,you need to accept everything that comes with it.
Homosexuality doesn't affect me so as polygamy,how does polygamy affect you in anyway?
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|Re: Let's Talk About Marriage(homosexuality,polygamy And Others) by crackhaus: 12:08pm On Jun 29, 2015|
masonkz:I believe I answered that question already, or are you implying that any woman in a polygamous union must have been forced into it?
That it isn't women agitating for polygamy is a null point.
Did men agitate for gender equality when it started? How come feminism became accepted when only women agitated for it?
Aren't women the only ones that gained and are gaining from the supposed gender equality/feminism?
So what exactly is wrong in thinking only men gain from polygamy, which is really not true at the end of the day...
If only women could gain from feminism/gender equality, what is it to you if only men gain from polygamy?
|Re: Let's Talk About Marriage(homosexuality,polygamy And Others) by Nobody: 12:11pm On Jun 29, 2015|
you arent saying much yourself, women are more desperate for marriage, they dont wanna be single, a man marrying more than one wife is actully helping out, call that community service
how are only men gaining from polygamy, when the women marry him willingly, the women gain, apart from the fact that they now have a husband who they can boast about, she automatically becomes a home owner, all the assets he has acquired when she was still pounding egusi in her mothers house becomes hers too, just because she is married to him
plus if you feel only the man gains from polygamy, you simply do not marry a polygamist, let other women who do not have a problem with being second wives marry him......
women cannot say they want monogamy and insist that men who do not want monogamy must be monogamous.....
|Re: Let's Talk About Marriage(homosexuality,polygamy And Others) by Nobody: 12:11pm On Jun 29, 2015|
I'm forced to say you're still all on bla bla.
Gay people, both parties, both men and women who are gay, marched to the court to demand that their love affair be legalised.
On the other hand, men, NOT women, are pleading that polygamy be legalised.
You see where I'm coming from? If you don't, then ..
|Re: Let's Talk About Marriage(homosexuality,polygamy And Others) by Nobody: 12:12pm On Jun 29, 2015|
|Re: Let's Talk About Marriage(homosexuality,polygamy And Others) by Nobody: 12:14pm On Jun 29, 2015|
Please tell me you're kidding with the bold!!!
Men already had the freedom that these women were fighting for.
Do you need further breakdown of the above?? Please consult damn history!
|Re: Let's Talk About Marriage(homosexuality,polygamy And Others) by Nobody: 12:21pm On Jun 29, 2015|
keep shooting yourself in the foot...
in dat case, the women should be agitating for the legalisation of polyandry as well and not for the criminalization of polygamy....
women clamoured for equality and not for a criminalization of the rights enjoyed by men....
why cant you keep a balanced argument?
|Re: Let's Talk About Marriage(homosexuality,polygamy And Others) by Nobody: 12:24pm On Jun 29, 2015|
You're talking of what they should be doing...not what they're obviously not doing, which is supporting men in agitating for polygamy.
What balanced argument again, please? Argument for equal rights for both parties involved in a particular relationship? or argument for women to be seen as equal with in the society as a whole. Remind me again?
|Re: Let's Talk About Marriage(homosexuality,polygamy And Others) by edwife(f): 12:29pm On Jun 29, 2015|
I see where you are coming from and i also see where i am coming from.
How many women did YOU personally ask if they wanted to be in a polygamous marriage?
Who has ever conducted a survey?let start by that then we can know for sure.
Okay i picked this from a site,this is what this said about polygamy:
Aisha (not her real name), a divorced single mother with two children, recently chose to become a second wife. She was introduced to her husband by a friend. She says that at first she was hesitant. “I was like, ‘No, I can’t do it. I’m too jealous as a person. I wouldn’t be able to do it.’ But the more that time went on and I started thinking about it, especially more maturely, I saw the beauty of it.”
Now if we have 10% of women who think like her,isn't it enough to go to court and legalized it?How many gays do we have in the world?Do gays make 30% of the population?
|Re: Let's Talk About Marriage(homosexuality,polygamy And Others) by Nobody: 12:30pm On Jun 29, 2015|
men do not need their support for polygamy, men never supported gender inequality, men only require that they do not try to sabotage their efforts....
a balanced argument would be "since men allegedly gain more from polygamy, we should also agitate for polyandry to even thing out"
Alas, the average woman is selfish, even they do not like polyandry
they want us all to stick to their preference
|Re: Let's Talk About Marriage(homosexuality,polygamy And Others) by Nobody: 12:31pm On Jun 29, 2015|
Lol. you're the one crying out foul about polygamy. So you do the job
I'm certainly fine with the gay ruling and the fact that women should not be used as properties of men
|Re: Let's Talk About Marriage(homosexuality,polygamy And Others) by Nobody: 12:33pm On Jun 29, 2015|
@bold, really?? Lawd have mercy. Yet the women are the ones being married off.
I rest my case here.
|Re: Let's Talk About Marriage(homosexuality,polygamy And Others) by edwife(f): 12:37pm On Jun 29, 2015|
I am not? my question was quite simply in the beginning of this thread. Personally none of this is my business,my business is that those who support homosexuality should not judge and condemn those who support polygamy.
People should be left to live their lives happily, as long as they are not stepping on any ones toes.If a man wants 2 or 3 wives,he should be left to do so as long as the women are happy.
|Re: Let's Talk About Marriage(homosexuality,polygamy And Others) by Nobody: 12:37pm On Jun 29, 2015|
shouting lawd have mercy would not make your argument sensible....
no one is getting married off, its a matter of choice, if you dont want to marry a polygamist, then dont... there are women out there that are willing to do so.... And we are talking of the USA here, no one marries off anybody....
i repeat "marriage is a choice" you hear me so....
|Re: Let's Talk About Marriage(homosexuality,polygamy And Others) by freecocoa(f): 1:02pm On Jun 29, 2015|
crackhaus:There is no woman in love willing to share her man, I am assuming love and compatibility is why people get married, the women in it have accepted it as normal because it is what they've been subjected to.
The internet is at your disposal, you can help yourself to some information, you certainly don't expect me to start worrying my pretty head over homo issues, especially as it doesn't even concern Nigeria, duh!
If something is wrong in their biological wiring to make them gay, whose fault is that?
There's nothing moral about marrying more than one wife for christians.
Siblings having sex is not a good idea as chances of having a genetically fecked up baby is very high.
Yes, it was okay in jesus's time, abi no be jesus be God again? Read your bible I'm sure you'll find siblings that screwed themselves, cousins also count.
|Re: Let's Talk About Marriage(homosexuality,polygamy And Others) by Kimoni: 1:08pm On Jun 29, 2015|
If I am not mistaken, I believe we are saying the same thing just that I see no reason to leave the Bible out of my explanation. I see no reason why everybody else should be free to expresss and practise what they want (freedom of speech) but Christians are expected and encouraged to keep any opinion based on their faith aside in consideration of others.
Pls lemme stop here before I am termed an overzealous or extreme Christian. issssshhhhh
|Re: Let's Talk About Marriage(homosexuality,polygamy And Others) by damiso(f): 1:26pm On Jun 29, 2015|
I agree with you .
I was just pointing out the double standards of 'freedom of speech' ni . Of course as a Christian you should be able to express your beliefs in tandem with your faith I.e. Marriage is between a man and woman. But no 'freedom of speech' no reash that one.
Mock people's religion and beliefs and they complain quickly say 'we are entitled to freedom of speech'. why are they being overly sensitive
Person with religion says what they believe, they are zealots
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