Rilwayne001:


He came into being by the commandment of God i.e. 'BE' and he was. Same way Adam and Even came into being.

Now, you have been showed that Luke said Joseph is the father of your god, do you agree with him or not?

Rilwayne001:


He doesn't have a father, same way Adam doesn't have a father and Eve without a mother. They all came into existence with the commandment of God.

Now, do you agree with Luke or not?

Rilwayne001:


Is the book ascribed to Moses written by moses? No. Is the book ascribed written by Jesus? NO. Did both moses and Jesus deliver God's message? YES. How did they got this revelation? They all got their individual revelations in their original form (probably meaning as an oral message) from God.

[b]1. None can change Allah's words

Surah 6:34, "Rejected were the messengers before thee: with patience and constancy they bore their rejection and their wrongs, until Our aid did reach them: there is none that can alter the words (and decrees) of Allah. Already hast thou received some account of those messengers."

Surah 6:115, "The word of thy Lord doth find its fulfilment in truth and in justice: None can change His words: for He is the one who heareth and knoweth all."

Surah 18:27, "And recite (and teach) what has been revealed to thee of the Book of thy Lord: none can change His Words, and none wilt thou find as a refuge other than Him."

2. Moses was given the Torah

Surah 2:87, "We gave Moses the Book and followed him up with a succession of messengers; We gave Jesus the son of Mary Clear (Signs) and strengthened him with the holy spirit. Is it that whenever there comes to you a messenger with what ye yourselves desire not, ye are puffed up with pride?- Some ye called impostors, and others ye slay!"

Surah 3:3, "It is He Who sent down to thee (step by step), in truth, the Book, confirming what went before it; and He sent down the Law (of Moses) and the Gospel (of Jesus) before this, as a guide to mankind, and He sent down the criterion (of judgment between right and wrong)."

3. David was given the Psalms

Surah 4:163, "We have sent thee inspiration, as We sent it to Noah and the Messengers after him: we sent inspiration to Abraham, Isma'il, Isaac, Jacob and the Tribes, to Jesus, Job, Jonah, Aaron, and Solomon, and to David We gave the Psalms."

4. Jesus was given the gospel

Surah 57:27, "Then, in their wake, We followed them up with (others of) Our messengers: We sent after them Jesus the son of Mary, and bestowed on him the Gospel; and We ordained in the hearts of those who followed him Compassion and Mercy. But the Monasticism which they invented for themselves, We did not prescribe for them: (We commanded) only the seeking for the Good Pleasure of Allah; but that they did not foster as they should have done. Yet We bestowed, on those among them who believed, their (due) reward, but many of them are rebellious transgressors."

5. Christians should judge by what is in the Gospel

5:47, "Let the people of the Gospel judge by what Allah hath revealed therein. If any do fail to judge by (the light of) what Allah hath revealed, they are (no better than) those who rebel."

6. The Qur'an confirms the Torah, the Psalms, and the Gospels and guards them

Surah 5:48 To thee [the people of the gospel] We sent the Scripture in truth, confirming the scripture that came before it, and guarding it in safety: so judge between them by what Allah hath revealed, and follow not their vain desires, diverging from the Truth that hath come to thee. To each among you have we prescribed a law and an open way. If Allah had so willed, He would have made you a single people, but (His plan is) to test you in what He hath given you: so strive as in a race in all virtues. The goal of you all is to Allah; it is He that will show you the truth of the matters in which ye dispute;"

Rilwayne001:


Get that to your thick skull. [/b]

basilico:


But Allah is not God. He is just n idol of the Kaaba that Muhammad elevated to Yahweh. Allah was Muhammad companion in crime always seeking to justify Muhammad crazy sinful life never ever befitting a prophet His does someone murder or rather behead a man, marry his wife and consummate same night? That must be the devil incarnate of a man.

Ken4Christ:


A lot of Muslim know the truth that Jesus is Saviour and Lord. They are afraid of converting to Christianity for fear of persecution. It is a very big risk because nobody on earth can escape meeting Jesus. You either accept him as your Lord and Saviour or meet him as your judge. He is the one appointed by God to judge the living and the death. Mohammed also will stand before Christ and be judged by him. Jesus is the supreme judge of the court of the universe. No one has been able to disprove the resurrection of Christ after over 2,000 yes he rose from the death. His death on the cross was the price he laid for our sins. If you don't believe and want to protect your religion at all cost, you will regret when you see yourself in the pit of hell after you are dead.

If the Qur'an is true, then Islam is false
by Matt Slick

If the Qur'an is true, then Islam is false. Why? Because the Qur'an says to trust the Gospels, but the four Gospels contradict the Qur'an. This means the Qur'an can't be true if it says the gospel message is also true. In order to show this, I will quote several verses from the Qur'an. The more important ones are bolded for easy reference later.

1. None can change Allah's words

Surah 6:34, "Rejected were the messengers before thee: with patience and constancy they bore their rejection and their wrongs, until Our aid did reach them: there is none that can alter the words (and decrees) of Allah. Already hast thou received some account of those messengers."

Surah 6:115, "The word of thy Lord doth find its fulfilment in truth and in justice: None can change His words: for He is the one who heareth and knoweth all."

Surah 18:27, "And recite (and teach) what has been revealed to thee of the Book of thy Lord: none can change His Words, and none wilt thou find as a refuge other than Him."

OLAADEGBU:


Could this be true? Can Allah's words be changed?

2. Moses was given the Torah

Surah 2:87, "We gave Moses the Book and followed him up with a succession of messengers; We gave Jesus the son of Mary Clear (Signs) and strengthened him with the holy spirit. Is it that whenever there comes to you a messenger with what ye yourselves desire not, ye are puffed up with pride?- Some ye called impostors, and others ye slay!"

Surah 3:3, "It is He Who sent down to thee (step by step), in truth, the Book, confirming what went before it; and He sent down the Law (of Moses) and the Gospel (of Jesus) before this, as a guide to mankind, and He sent down the criterion (of judgment between right and wrong)."

ABIOLAXYZ:
ALLLAH IS THE GREATEST

2:75

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Sahih International
Do you covet [the hope, O believers], that they would believe for you while a party of them used to hear the words of Allah and then distort the Torah after they had understood it while they were knowing?

2.76
Sahih International: And when they meet those who believe, they say, "We have believed"; but when they are alone with one another, they say, "Do you talk to them about what Allah has revealed to you so they can argue with you about it before your Lord?" Then will you not reason?

2.77
Sahih International: But do they not know that Allah knows what they conceal and what they declare?


2.78
Sahih International: And among them are unlettered ones who do not know the Scripture except in wishful thinking, but they are only assuming 2.79 Then woe to those who write the Book with their own hands, and then say:"This is from Allah," to traffic with it for miserable price!- Woe to them for what their hands do write, and for the gain they make thereby. Allah says in Quran: Curse on those who write god's scriptures by their hands .. Curse on them what they earn
O Christians, do you really edit the book of God (bible) and earn from copy rights and deserve wrath and curse of Allah?

Rilwayne001:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7Q25Ta4sqc

abduljabbar4:

Please what's the name of that man in that video? I have been looking for his videos since

abduljabbar4:

Please what's the name of that man in that video? I have been looking for his videos since

truthman2013:


Dr Zakir Naik

.. truthman..

MuhdG:

Sheikh Dr zakir naik

abduljabbar4:




Thank you my brothers

OLAADEGBU:


All you are doing here is patting yourselves in the back. None of you can answer the questions posed by the OP as to why Islam is false if your Qur'an is true.

abduljabbar4:


How many answers do you want? Yo are the one that is refusing to accept the truth here

OLAADEGBU:


This is your task. 'If the Qur'an is true then Islam is false': Disprove or debunk that.

abduljabbar4:


Rilwayne answered you
Demzzy answered you
Ahmen answered you
Truthman answered you.
I don't answer those who spread lies against Islam

Rilwayne001:


[b] Is the book ascribed to Moses written by moses?. Is the book ascribed written by Jesus?.

truthman2013:



OLAADEGBU should simply answer these^ questions accordingly without playing games.

..truthman.n

OLAADEGBU:


You should first of all answer my questions before you open another thread to ask your own questions.

smarthG:


Can someone pls make us understand what quoran 3 vs 34 says
And 50 vs 23


Islamic scholars help out plsssss

OLAADEGBU:


Let's hope that they will respond to your request.

Rilwayne001:
[b] OLAADEGBU

What the Quran mean is that Moses, David and Jesus (peace and blessings be upon all of them) all got their individual revelations in their original form (probably meaning as an oral message). The Quran maintains that the books of the Jews and Christians have been corrupted, altered and edited over time. When the Quran talks about the Torah, Psalms and the Gospel it is speaking about the original versions revealed unto Moses, David and Jesus. It is not talking about the current Torah, Psalms and the Four Canonical Gospels we have today.

You may want to argue this, then join me here. https://www.nairaland.com/2172133/question-did-jesus-read-bible/15 "IT has often been said, that anything may be proved from the Bible, but before anything can be admitted as proved by the Bible, the Bible itself must be proved to be true; for if the Bible be not true, or the truth of it be doubtful, it ceases to have authority, and cannot be admitted as proof of anything." [/b]

truthman2013:


Your question has been answered, mr. man. Stop shying away from the one posed at you. Simply say you can't; if you can't answer the questions.

Anas09:


Hmmmm. These Muslim are either shameless or stupid. Let me check out some points I noticed here.
The King James Bible is the Only Bible which the Elizabethan language of thee, ye and thou was used.
WHAT is the koran doing with thee, ye, and thou? Plagiarism. Withou judeo-christians, islam is nothing. They can't make sense without us.
Mohammed or whoever read the Bible to mohammed told him that God (Yahweh) used 'US' as in 'Let us make man in Our own image'
Without thinking, allah started refering to himself as we, us and our. Meanwhile he says he has no partner. Copy copy without thinking. Dump.
Now in orfer to decieve nairalanders, Rilwane the islamic apologist, has impersonated the moniker of mr "Thuthman12" now he is Thruthman13. Just like their god/thiefing prophet. Fake. Talking from both sides of the mouth.

neocortex:


Fortunately, if the Bible is not true as thinking individuals know, then the Quran is also a fairy tale because
Quran is a mixture of the old testament and tribal folklores. Then on what basis is the Quran claiming superiority ?

smarthG:



Many of us were born into the religious believe we practice today, and because we must know what we are doing, a particular church I know. Has sent many of its members to Islamic. studies at various Islamic. Institutes. And many. Have graduated and the revelation is shocking! Many people you thing are wise, don't even know what they are doing.

But its only unfortunate.
God is merciful in deed.