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Re: 5 Reasons Why Pastors Do Not Need Private Jets by simongonner: 5:16am On Sep 21, 2015 |
op you are on point.....nice one... |
Re: 5 Reasons Why Pastors Do Not Need Private Jets by omakay(m): 5:50am On Sep 21, 2015 |
tee4naija: Thank You so much for your example. We have billions of Nigerians that think like that friend of yours. That is why these private jets will even continue to exist in the first place. I do not want to begin to count how many pentecoastal ministries he would pass on his way to canaanland every sunday. The gospel is now selective. Nigerians are very emotional when it comes to the issue of religion and we tend to throwaway basic logical reasoning at that instant. I still stand by what i have said before. As far as any man of God can prove to me that he is acquiring assets out of his PERSONAL pocket then he is good to go. If Not....... |
Re: 5 Reasons Why Pastors Do Not Need Private Jets by omakay(m): 6:07am On Sep 21, 2015 |
I have and will never be against Pastors and Men of God acquiring and enjoying the positive pleasures that this life has to offer. God knows that they are human beings too. But it becomes a source of concern when they do so at the heavy expense of others. The gospel is not and will never be a commercial product that is exchanged for a price (directly or indirectly). Please, can someone amongst us please try and dig out the financial costs of this topic. The cost of these jets, licence costs, operational and maintainance costs. Lets us even know the financial implications of these assets sef. |
Re: 5 Reasons Why Pastors Do Not Need Private Jets by Adebayooooooo: 6:23am On Sep 21, 2015 |
sonofananimal:From your spelling, I rely can see that you rely have knowledge. |
Re: 5 Reasons Why Pastors Do Not Need Private Jets by ceecee0703(m): 6:35am On Sep 21, 2015 |
predatorX: You knw when u give a grown man some reasons to think and he finds out he has no point he results to insults .. .no wahala continue the insults cos u are out of points |
Re: 5 Reasons Why Pastors Do Not Need Private Jets by felixdanielthed(m): 6:39am On Sep 21, 2015 |
madridguy: idiot! to enjoy woh, which of d earlier prophets, who found dis religion had smooth, u materialistic fool,i just sorry 4 ur congregation 4 ur misleading, no more God's kongdom but materialistic world race |
Re: 5 Reasons Why Pastors Do Not Need Private Jets by ceecee0703(m): 6:42am On Sep 21, 2015 |
predatorX: Brother i think you should make ur researches well... go to the north most of the food and relief materials are from churches.....when the flood ravished the south n east in 2012 the churches were there,when haiti had challenges the churches were there, during jos palava the churches were there. go to covenant University,redeemers university, Oral roberts university employments they gave bailed the government out of the joblessless ravaging the country and they pay more than the state. Every year LFC give bursary to students for the year.....scholarships are presently going on for entrance into one of the faculties in Landmark University Abuja. etc to mention but a few. They cant show it on national TV cos it is a good done unto fellow man and your right hand is not suppose to knw what the left hand has done so dat d glory will be to d glory of God. |
Re: 5 Reasons Why Pastors Do Not Need Private Jets by felixdanielthed(m): 6:54am On Sep 21, 2015 |
Jeromejnr: poor intellectual fool, did u ever do textual critism or form criticism or history, i believe u shud go to a greek school for proper enlightenment of the new testament text |
Re: 5 Reasons Why Pastors Do Not Need Private Jets by AllNaijaBlogger(m): 6:58am On Sep 21, 2015 |
ceecee0703: So if a corrupt politician steals 50 billion naira and gives 1 billion to the poor around Nigeria in terms of some scholarships, bags of rice and foodstuffs, the politician is a good person? Where did these pastors get $65 million from to buy private jets? There are only two types of people that can afford private jets -govt officials misusing public funds to buy/fly private jets -billionaires who have grown their business over the years or their children who inherited such wealth Your pastor could only afford jets off tithe money and church profits. What other business is your pastor into? What product or service is he selling to make such money? Jesus was humble. Remember that. |
Re: 5 Reasons Why Pastors Do Not Need Private Jets by fetrillion(m): 7:13am On Sep 21, 2015 |
poverty mentality @ op |
Re: 5 Reasons Why Pastors Do Not Need Private Jets by ceecee0703(m): 7:18am On Sep 21, 2015 |
AllNaijaBlogger: Friend to start with if everyone who steals 50billion drops 1billion alot of Nigerian will be employed but dat still doesnt withdraws the fact dat stealing is stealing. let me tell you how these things work,very simple pple pay tithes and offerings have u ever seen them hold gun to their heads? NO. reason cos most ppl knw that their is a blessing attached to giving to Gods kingdom. They keep giving and their blessings keeps coming so why should they stop if they knw their blessings are tied to their giving. what ever the pastor wants he can do with the money thats bw him and God,My business is my giving to Gods work and my hundred fold return which God gives me because of my undieing love for him which leads me to give without complaints. hear sir, for me not to give when i have is an anatema, for me not to pay my tithe is criminal then for God not to bless me is impossible thats how it works bro.....peace. |
Re: 5 Reasons Why Pastors Do Not Need Private Jets by Ndeewonu: 7:34am On Sep 21, 2015 |
I never argue with people on issues bothering on their pastors and church. They have a way of pulling a sheath of covering over their eyes, such that they often reason from somewhere else. Today, it is #HERO WORSHIP#, and the hero is #MYPASTOR# not #JESUSCHRIST# |
Re: 5 Reasons Why Pastors Do Not Need Private Jets by AllNaijaBlogger(m): 7:35am On Sep 21, 2015 |
ceecee0703: Are you the kind of person that walks past a beggar to pay tithe in your church? Did Jesus say you should pay tithe or help the poor? Please think about this question deeply. As for the private Jet pastors, where did they get the money for the Jets? And why is it that all the people supporting these private jet pastors never addressed any of the 5 points in the op? Some are now resulting to lying that I am not a christian. Too funny 1 Like |
Re: 5 Reasons Why Pastors Do Not Need Private Jets by dollarlander: 7:46am On Sep 21, 2015 |
AllNaijaBlogger: The statements you make here shows the level you are in the society. Imaging a poor man saying why does a rich man need 5 vehicles, and started forecasting the rich man's budget on how he should spend hos money when the poor man does not know the worth of the rich man. You need further research to prove your weak points here. Do you think those people you mentioned here know how the plane is managed? The issues you mentioned here is not their problems, some people are employed to take care of that and those ministries are buoyant enough that, they don't feel what is going how maintaining those toys. Man you need to work on yourself and mentality and start thinking as a wealthy person. God is blessing his ministries, open your eyes and see what is going on. I pity you. Low class thinking people. shioooorr!!!! |
Re: 5 Reasons Why Pastors Do Not Need Private Jets by ceecee0703(m): 7:50am On Sep 21, 2015 |
AllNaijaBlogger: friend check mal 3:10 and if my memory serves me right i av been helpful to the needy to the very best of my capabilities. i need not blow my trumpet. but tithe PAYING is non negotiable mayb u should study tithing...av a good day |
Re: 5 Reasons Why Pastors Do Not Need Private Jets by mechanics(m): 7:53am On Sep 21, 2015 |
AllNaijaBlogger:if d members ar nt complaining, den let d pastors be, afta all na church money dey use while some, contributions 4rm friends. |
Re: 5 Reasons Why Pastors Do Not Need Private Jets by Obiwiz(m): 7:54am On Sep 21, 2015 |
Africa: lots of churches with world's richest pastors plus monumental poverty,deprivation,crime,disease,high maternal and infant mortality,highest number of out-of-school children etc. Most startling part is, most of diz religious leaders have close rapport with top govt functionaries/politicians(people who are known for shortchanging and economically suffocating the voiceless and oppressed). Very hard to understand. Whatever happened to "crucifying self" & "mortifying d flesh". For now,d only Pentecostal my conscience allows me to worship with is Pastor W.F Kumuyi's deeperlife bible church(they're nt perfect,but i think dey are d closest to wat i find in my bible). 1 Like |
Re: 5 Reasons Why Pastors Do Not Need Private Jets by AllNaijaBlogger(m): 7:58am On Sep 21, 2015 |
dollarlander: You are the one projecting your low class thinking. If you understood the costs and issues involved in owning a private jet, you wouldn't be here defending the indefensible. So, because your pastor is rich, God is blessing him? Corrupt Nigerian politicians are also rich. Bin Laden was rich. Your logic is fallacious. Please, try to address any of the points in the op. |
Re: 5 Reasons Why Pastors Do Not Need Private Jets by AllNaijaBlogger(m): 8:00am On Sep 21, 2015 |
mechanics: When a pastor in south africa got the congregation to eat grass, the congregation were not the ones who got him criticised all over social media, it was the "outsiders". The point here is that anyone is allowed to speak the truth, congregation or outsider. 1 Like |
Re: 5 Reasons Why Pastors Do Not Need Private Jets by atoleybaba(m): 8:06am On Sep 21, 2015 |
AllNaijaBlogger:continuation....paul, a rich lawyer with two citizenship forsook everything he had "and considered them has refuse" just to follow Christ 1 Like |
Re: 5 Reasons Why Pastors Do Not Need Private Jets by atoleybaba(m): 8:08am On Sep 21, 2015 |
jaymejate:do u even know d meaning of d word "christian" Jesus camee to d world not only to save us but to set pattern for us in which we can serve God |
Re: 5 Reasons Why Pastors Do Not Need Private Jets by Ndeewonu: 8:29am On Sep 21, 2015 |
ceecee0703: You must be one of those people deceiving people out there. The very people whose only passages they have memorised are those talking tithing and seed-sowing. It is sad that your type do not know that tithing can neither take you to heaven nor hell. What would take you there are what Jesus Himself said in the following (and other verses): Read Matthew 23;23; Matthew 25:31-46. These are words from Jesus Jesus is the author of Christianity, and each time there is a conflict, between the Old Testament and what Jesus said, I choose what Christ said. |
Re: 5 Reasons Why Pastors Do Not Need Private Jets by MattChidi(m): 8:30am On Sep 21, 2015 |
jaymejate: Jesus came set example for us to follow stop talking trash. . . |
Re: 5 Reasons Why Pastors Do Not Need Private Jets by Nobody: 8:40am On Sep 21, 2015 |
Adebayooooooo:thank God I study no English or any language courses. I speak the way I spoke. And if you understand the importance of the writeing. I got zero problem with any body. Languages is the act of communication not perfection or spellieng |
Re: 5 Reasons Why Pastors Do Not Need Private Jets by bigtt76(f): 8:47am On Sep 21, 2015 |
Lol.... You nor lie jaaaare! madridguy: |
Re: 5 Reasons Why Pastors Do Not Need Private Jets by ceecee0703(m): 9:28am On Sep 21, 2015 |
Ndeewonu: Lolz the scriptures cannot contradict itself ur hatred for the prosperity of preachers has blinded you....but Jesus said i have not come to destroy the law but to fulfil it. Now remember the woman that gave her all...widows mite...Jesus himself said she gave the best. David said i wont give God dat which Cost me nothing 2sam 24:24, 2 chron 21:24. Tithing is important cos it improves ur life on earth and relationship but better is your life as a christian than tithing...meaning any who tithe but doesnt do Gods will lost all ...matt 23:23 |
Re: 5 Reasons Why Pastors Do Not Need Private Jets by JudgementHammer: 9:52am On Sep 21, 2015 |
AllNaijaBlogger:My dear u aren't humble, ure ignorant to the extreme. Using human business sense to analyse Gods provisional ability and you think you're wise. U may think u have business prospects but you're tending towards poverty. If u are really the xtain u claim to be then poverty will catch up with you soon AllNaijaBlogger:When the RCCG started, was ur father's money the starting capital or did a particular businessman sign a contract with the founder in order to get returns now? Who created d economy. D economy have been having issues b4 u were born and will keep being so. The bible says "u will lend to nations". How its gonna happen isn't ur business, urs is just to believe. Even amidst famine, God can make u flourish if ure committed to him. The life of pastor Adeboye is just a good example of what being totally committed to God can do for you. AllNaijaBlogger:Hear yourself speak heresis. When d bible says he was MADE poor(he wasn't poor originally) that YOU may be RICH. You seem to be so used to poverty that its now ur lifestyle that u can't do without. U don't even knw that a donkey among the pharisees was one of their best automobile at that time and jesus rode on a BRAND NEW one. If the way ure thinking was logical, then u should be walking bare-footed even to standard seminars and conferences as ur own sign of humility. Poverty IS NOT humiility But I'm not suprised abt ur words. Whenever God's determined to promote you, there'll definitely be criticism. That's d cost of being rich. But when I compare the cost of riches to dat of poverty, my dear I will choose to be rich again and again. Let it be on record that I Dave the JudgementHammer will keep improving in the lord and would be wealthy enough, I will own my own jets in spite of the complaints abt d economy and d cost of maintenance won't be a problem at all..amen. 1 Like |
Re: 5 Reasons Why Pastors Do Not Need Private Jets by AllNaijaBlogger(m): 10:38am On Sep 21, 2015 |
JudgementHammer: Are you serious? You are calling someone ignorant and yet you spew this unreasonable trash of a comment? First, you seem to be more interested in your riches and the riches of your pastor. See how you are boasting. Also, you are then claiming that Donkeys were the most expensive forms of transport in the time of Jesus. How ignorant of you to forget that horses and chariots were mentioned in that same bible? Do you think at all? |
Re: 5 Reasons Why Pastors Do Not Need Private Jets by Joshroyal: 10:48am On Sep 21, 2015 |
AllNaijaBlogger:No wonder u desired to be poor...u don't work hard to earn a living. the day u buy a car God will punish u, the day u build a house God will punish u, the day u save money to get things done God will punish u, the day dream to be rich God will punish u...u knw why? because God did not put u on earth to be rich. idiot. |
Re: 5 Reasons Why Pastors Do Not Need Private Jets by atoleybaba(m): 10:54am On Sep 21, 2015 |
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Re: 5 Reasons Why Pastors Do Not Need Private Jets by Ndeewonu: 11:21am On Sep 21, 2015 |
ceecee0703: My response: 1. I carefully used the word CONFLICT, and not contradict! I believe you should know the difference. What do you call this? Moses told you "an eye for an eye..." That is, if anyone hits you, hit him back. Fight those who fight you! Moses told you "love you neighbour (brother) and hate your enemy..." What did Jesus say in Matthew 5: 38-48? You may read the whole of the NEW LAW in Matthew 5! What do you call that? You need to allow the Holy Spirit to guide you while you read your Bible and not greed. 2. Talking about "prosperity of preachers..." You can as well talk and brag about the prosperity of politicians! The one condition Jesus gave to the rich man to make heaven, was to sell off all he had and give to the poor? (Mark 10:21). Why did Jesus not ask him to give it to the Levites or the Priests? common on! You need to read and understand the Bible! In any case, who tells you I am a beggar like you? 3. The major condition Jesus emphasised to make heaven is as highlighted in Matt 25: 31-end; Mark 10:21; Matt 23;23 (above). 4. Those of you who do not know anything about the Bible are the ones deceiving yourselves! Your type are the ones preaching back to sender, which is completely unChristian! A lot of the pastors are wicked, ripping off people. You must know that both Christianity and Judaism share the Old Testament of the Bible. The only difference is the New Testament, which, sadly, wicked pastors and wicked Christians have refused to adhere to. They claim to love God (like the Pharisees and Saducees; Boko Haram and ISIS do), but they hate their fellow human being. Remember that the New Testament says "you cannot claim to love God who you cannot see while you hate your fellow human who you can see." (1 John 4:20) Please, read more of what Jesus said. That is pure and undefiled Christianity. I repeat, tithe can only increase you here (as per rebuking the devourer of earthly possessions), and has nothing to do with you making heaven! |
Re: 5 Reasons Why Pastors Do Not Need Private Jets by AllNaijaBlogger(m): 11:24am On Sep 21, 2015 |
Joshroyal: See your life? You were told the truth and all you can do is rain curses on the messenger. The truth is bitter. You cannot serve both God and money 1 Like |
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