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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by aljharem(m): 7:14pm On Nov 23, 2015
OnReflection:


Alhaji, but you were given credit when I mentioned your handle? No?

Thanks, just wanted to ensure shymexx understood that.
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by zimoni(f): 7:27pm On Nov 23, 2015
IlekeHD:


What does that mean? As in its true meaning.

Just got home, I've been busy badt.

At the question you asked me, it seems I have bought an unnecessary job for myself. How do I interpret it without being bashed by the Elders in the house, temi ti bami.

Okay, let me try.

He Said He Entered Into The London(you know nah) of An Igbo Lady and She Gave Birth To An Ilaje Kid.
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Katsumoto: 7:30pm On Nov 23, 2015
Is it necessary for a Yoruba son to be governor in a state where Yorubas are a minority? Otherwise they risk being accused of what they accuse others of doing. If Faleke is wanted by a majority, then all well and good but sneaking in through a technicality will create problems for him and the Yoruba.

I really don't get why Nigerian people always want someone from their ethnic group to be governor/president.

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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Ilaje44(m): 7:32pm On Nov 23, 2015
IlekeHD:



So cool.

Mii si nibi ti mo le wo awon youtube yen ni sin. Ti n ba ti wo, ma comment.

The names sounds very Yoruba.

Although you talk as if Ilaje is not a subgroup of Yorubas..... does each subgroup [ekiti, ilaje, ijesa etc] have its own distinct names?

Emi ree l'odun meje sehin:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbcdEYidfHg

Sugbon kii se Ilaje ni mo so nibe.

O le search Youtube channel mi ti o ba fe: http://youtube.com/omilaje

O ye ji mi ne fidiyo ibo mo ti fo Ilaje nibe.
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by nduchucks: 7:37pm On Nov 23, 2015
Katsumoto:
Is it necessary for a Yoruba son to be governor in a state where Yorubas are a minority? Otherwise they risk being accused of what they accuse others of doing. If Faleke is wanted by a majority, then all well and good but sneaking in through a technicality will create problems for him and the Yoruba.

I really don't get why Nigerian people always want someone from their ethnic group to be governor/president.

e kpele nbeyen o. Idobale ni mo wa. smiley

The answer to your question is hypocrisy. It is similar to some men calling those with 4 wives immoral while they who have one wife maintain 10 or more concubines all over the world.
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by raumdeuter: 7:43pm On Nov 23, 2015
Katsumoto:
Is it necessary for a Yoruba son to be governor in a state where Yorubas are a minority? Otherwise they risk being accused of what they accuse others of doing. If Faleke is wanted by a majority, then all well and good but sneaking in through a technicality will create problems for him and the Yoruba.

I really don't get why Nigerian people always want someone from their ethnic group to be governor/president.

If you are a native of the state even if you are a minority you have a right to be the governor. And most states practice some form of rotation like Lagos State rotate between someone from the Island, Someone from Epe/Ikorodu Axis and someone from the mainland (Tinubu from the Island, Fashola from Mainland and Ambode from Epe)

Even though an Epe man might be a minority but he still has a legit reason to be a governor because Lagos State is his ancestral homeland

Okun Yorubas in kogi even though a minority have a right to aspire to be governor because that is their ancestral homeland. and they are not recent settlers

If Faleke's has a legal argument to be the governor then I dont see any reason why he shouldnt pursue it because he is from a minority

That would be analogous to denying Jonathan the right to succeed Yar'Adua as substantive president because he is from a minority tribe which was what Soyinka, Bakare and Falana fought for in 2010 a.k.a sneaking him through a technicality

And I am not sure when wanting your own person to be president became a Nigerian thing

in 2008, 96% of blacks voted Obama to be president and an overwhelming Hispanic would support any Hispanic person to be president

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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by tpiadotcom: 7:46pm On Nov 23, 2015
TreyQ:
Yoruba Drummers

from where?

Yoruba drummers do not look that hyper.
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by IlekeHD: 7:49pm On Nov 23, 2015
zimoni:


Just got home, I've been busy badt.

At the question you asked me, it seems I have bought an unnecessary job for myself. How do I interpret it without being bashed by the Elders in the house, temi ti bami.

Okay, let me try.

He Said He Entered Into The London(you know nah) of An Igbo Lady and She Gave Birth To An Ilaje Kid.

lmaoooo grin


Oh wow @ the translation....
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by IlekeHD: 7:50pm On Nov 23, 2015
Katsumoto:
[b]Is it necessary for a Yoruba son to be governor in a state where Yorubas are a minority? [/b]Otherwise they risk being accused of what they accuse others of doing. If Faleke is wanted by a majority, then all well and good but sneaking in through a technicality will create problems for him and the Yoruba.

I really don't get why Nigerian people always want someone from their ethnic group to be governor/president.

Gbam!!

We should thread carefully, but we shouldn't become pawns in our politic.

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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by IlekeHD: 7:52pm On Nov 23, 2015
Ilaje44:


Emi ree l'odun meje sehin:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbcdEYidfHg

Sugbon kii se Ilaje ni mo so nibe.

O le search Youtube channel mi ti o ba fe: http://youtube.com/omilaje

O ye ji mi ne fidiyo ibo mo ti fo Ilaje nibe.

The guy sound straight centralized Yoruba, unless I'm mistaken.

I agree with everything he said tho.

cc. Modath, your take on this
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Shymm3x: 7:54pm On Nov 23, 2015
raumdeuter:

If you are a native of the state even if you are a minority you have a right to be the governor. And most states practice some form of rotation like Lagos State rotate between someone from the Island, Someone from Epe/Ikorodu Axis and someone from the mainland

Even though an Epe man might be a minority but he still has a legit reason to be a governor because Lagos State is his ancestral homeland

Okun Yorubas in kogi even though a minority have a right to aspire to be governor because that is their ancestral homeland. and they are not recent settlers

If Faleke's has a legal argument to be the governor then I dont see any reason why he shouldnt pursue it because he is from a minority

That would be analogous to denying Jonathan the right to succeed Yar'Adua as substantive president because he is from a minority tribe which was what Soyinka, Bakare and Falana fought for in 2010 a.k.a sneaking him through a technicality

And I am not sure when wanting your own person to be president became a Nigerian thing

in 2008, 96% of blacks voted Obama to be president and an overwhelming Hispanic would support any Hispanic person to be president

I cosign ya post.

All is fair in politics as long as they're indigenous to the state.

They ought to be rotating the governorship of the state among all the ethnic groups there. The Igalas can smack their heads on the wall for I care - Yorubas in Kogi have the same rights as every other ethnic group indigenous to the state.

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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by uniklinkum(m): 7:58pm On Nov 23, 2015
Ilaje44:


Emi ree l'odun meje sehin:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbcdEYidfHg

Sugbon kii se Ilaje ni mo so nibe.

O le search Youtube channel mi ti o ba fe: http://youtube.com/omilaje

O ye ji mi ne fidiyo ibo mo ti fo Ilaje nibe.

Wie geht's ihnen meine gro├če bruder. Deine Yoruba sprechen ist sehr gut. Bawo ni arbeit und familie....
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Ilaje44(m): 7:58pm On Nov 23, 2015
Katsumoto:
Is it necessary for a Yoruba son to be governor in a state where Yorubas are a minority? Otherwise they risk being accused of what they accuse others of doing. If Faleke is wanted by a majority, then all well and good but sneaking in through a technicality will create problems for him and the Yoruba.

I really don't get why Nigerian people always want someone from their ethnic group to be governor/president.

With due respect, if we follow this analogy, minorities would/should never be President of Nigeria. The ultimate goal of democracy is to be representative of all including minorities. It wouldn't be a democracy if a population of a state is alienated. BTW, the Okun did not ask the military to join them together with the Ebiras and Igalas. It's their absolute right to vie for the leadership of the state.

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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by uniklinkum(m): 8:01pm On Nov 23, 2015
Aare, Ileke, duke and everyone good job well done by y'all,best nairaland thread. Will be checking in once in a while but I have been so busy of late.

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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Shymm3x: 8:01pm On Nov 23, 2015
Ilaje44:


With due respect, if we follow this analogy, minorities would/should never be President of Nigeria. The ultimate goal of democracy is to be representative of all including minorities. It wouldn't be a democracy if a population of a state is alienated. BTW, the Okun did not ask the military to join them together with the Ebiras and Igalas. It's their absolute right to vie for the leadership of the state.

They shouldn't even be in that state in the first place.

Same way the Itsekiris shouldn't have been in Delta.
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Ilaje44(m): 8:03pm On Nov 23, 2015
IlekeHD:


The guy sound straight centralized Yoruba, unless I'm mistaken.

I agree with everything he said tho.

cc. Modath, your take on this

I did write that I was not speaking Ilaje in that video. I made that video some 7 years ago.

I also asked you to check my channel (http://youtube.com/omilaje), and there should be a recording in Ilaje.
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by superstar1(m): 8:06pm On Nov 23, 2015
Katsumoto:
Is it necessary for a Yoruba son to be governor in a state where Yorubas are a minority? Otherwise they risk being accused of what they accuse others of doing. If Faleke is wanted by a majority, then all well and good but sneaking in through a technicality will create problems for him and the Yoruba.

I really don't get why Nigerian people always want someone from their ethnic group to be governor/president.

They are not migrants in Kogi State.

They are indigenes of the state. By right, they have every right to aspire to the highest post of that land.

It is left for other ethnicities to vote for them or for even the yorubas to contest.

This case is very different from the scenario you are trying to create.

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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by IlekeHD: 8:10pm On Nov 23, 2015
Ilaje44:


I did write that I was not speaking Ilaje in that video. I made that video some 7 years ago.

I also asked you to check my channel (http://youtube.com/omilaje), and there should be a recording in Ilaje.

Woah, that's you? grin Papa youngie. lol

Will check the channel.
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by raumdeuter: 8:11pm On Nov 23, 2015
Looks like ilaje44 was slammed by the spambot
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 8:12pm On Nov 23, 2015
Even If they get into power,it still doesn't mean anything.2019 will surely come and the Igalas will pay them back
since they have the population

Those guys need to detach themselves from that state

Its not looking bright for them.They'll continue to get bullied.

I feel they should join hands with Kwarans to form a stronger team

I remember them going about it alone sometime last year and I knew it was always going to end in vain

Uniklinkum welcome brother wink
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by uniklinkum(m): 8:16pm On Nov 23, 2015
Aareonakakanfo:
Even If they get into power,it still doesn't mean anything.2019 will surely come and the Igalas will pay them back
since they have the population

Those guys need to detach themselves from that state

Its not looking bright for them.They'll continue to get bullied.

I feel they should join hands with Kwarans to form a stronger team

I remember them going about it alone sometime last year and I knew it was always going to end in vain

Uniklinkum welcome brother wink



Thanks aare hope you doing great.
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 8:17pm On Nov 23, 2015
raumdeuter:
Looks like ilaje44 was slammed by the spambot

The S.e.un guy has a lot of work to do honestly.A llloot of work!

Very complacent character. sad sad

And he keeps winning awards

Nigeria eh angry
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Katsumoto: 8:17pm On Nov 23, 2015
Raumdeter & Ilaje44

There is a difference between aspiration and popularity.

Anyone can aspire to be governor or president of a state or nation that they are native to.

But elections are popularity contests. And this popularity is often determined through ethnicity. Why can't a Scottish person become PM in the UK?
And the last Scottish PM(Brown) who got there through the back door lost the election on which he was on the ballot.

Having said that, minorities can aspire to be leaders anywhere but that person must be selling a fantastic product. Similar to how Obama won in the US.

The argument about GEJ a minority ruling is a strong one but I don't believe it is relevant here because GEJ had been sworn in and there was no constitutional or judicial reason to take the mandate from him. In this case, this election is yet to be decided or a victor sworn in. The party still has the opportunity to correct or validate Faleke's popularity. Let him contest with others who are also aspiring.

If Faleke attains this position through precedence set by the Supreme Court, he will simply be exposing himself. If he is unpopular with the majority in that state, they will frustrate his efforts. The end of that will be some Yoruba sons opening threads on NL and crying about how the Governor is being frustrated and then the wars and e-wars will start with Igala and some other mischievous non-Yoruba/Igala.

This is analogous to a black man walking around in the dead of night in Alabama or Mississippi. Yes he has the right to walk anywhere at any time but is it commonsensical for him to do so?

In any case, this is just my opinion.

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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 8:19pm On Nov 23, 2015
uniklinkum:




Thanks aare hope you doing great.


Mo duro dede bi Gingervite.2tablets.. grin grin cheesy

O tojo meta
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Katsumoto: 8:21pm On Nov 23, 2015
nduchucks:


e kpele nbeyen o. Idobale ni mo wa. smiley

The answer to your question is hypocrisy. It is similar to some men calling those with 4 wives immoral while they who have one wife maintain 10 or more concubines all over the world.


Alhaji Chukuma

I hope you are keeping well.

hahahahaha at those with one wife and 10 concubines. grin grin grin
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by modath(f): 8:29pm On Nov 23, 2015
IlekeHD:


lol tell an elder to go and exercise and he[size=8pt][/size]'d tell you that you're disrespectful grin

Old Nigerian people just.... smh

It is not ONLY old people, the young are as bad.... Imagine people giving people hell cos they don't want to use the "I have kids" excuse to look like a baby whale blubber!!

If you are trying to get tight & snatched in Naija, it must mean you have marital problems.. Our thought process is flawed mehn. grin

One kid & people be looking like CWO mothers with massive christian mama arms. cheesy
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by IlekeHD: 8:34pm On Nov 23, 2015
modath:

It is not ONLY old people, the young are as bad.... Imagine people giving people hell cos they don't want to use the "I have kids" excuse to look like a baby whale blubber!!
If you are trying to get tight & snatched in Naija, it must mean you have marital problems.. Our thought process is flawed mehn. grin
One kid & people be looking like CWO mothers with massive christian mama arms. cheesy

Na wa o...... I've been thinking there's something seriously wrong with that country.

If a mother tries to sexxy up for her husband, she gets reprimanded. Just because you've caught him doesn't mean you shouldn't KEEP him and vise versa.

Anytime I hear "marriage" and "Nigerians" I just laugh....... no offence grin

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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by raumdeuter: 8:40pm On Nov 23, 2015
Katsumoto

So whats the constitutional or judicial argument for Faleke not to take the mantle of the APC and continue in the election

According to Atiku/Boni Haruna ruling in 1999. Atiku won the election but he handed the mandate to Boni because it was ruled that the Party PDP was the owner of the mandate.

Also from the Amaechi/Omehia ruling from 2007. Amaechi won the PDP ticket but was illegally substituted . At the general election Amaechis name was never on the ballot and it can be argued that voters voted for Omehia but the court ruled and handed Amaechi the mandate even though he never was on the Ballot for Rivers people

As long as its through a legal means either by elections or through the court. if Faleke wins then fine. Faleke can win and if he doesnt play the right politics be constitutionally impeached

In a country like Nigeria where we are multi ethnic and diverse, rotation of some sort is the only way even a Yoruba man Ibo or non hausa can aspire to be president.

Just like in Lagos an Epe man might never be able to rule without zoning, going by the Popularity contest elections are known to be

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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by modath(f): 8:54pm On Nov 23, 2015
IlekeHD:


The guy sound straight centralized Yoruba, unless I'm mistaken.

I agree with everything he said tho.

cc. Mo, your take on this

Mo endorses that message..

Wish i could send it to my oyinbolized BIL, but the honour your spouse's family clause will not allow me... tongue
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by IlekeHD: 9:01pm On Nov 23, 2015
modath:


Mo endorses that message..

Wish i could send it to my oyinbolized BIL, but the honour your spouse's family clause will not allow me... tongue

lmaoooo grin grin
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by modath(f): 9:02pm On Nov 23, 2015
raumdeuter:
Katsumoto

So whats the constitutional or judicial argument for Faleke not to take the mantle of the APC and continue in the election

According to Atiku/Boni Haruna ruling in 1999. Atiku won the election but he handed the mandate to Boni because it was ruled that the Party PDP was the owner of the mandate.

Also from the Amaechi/Omehia ruling from 2007. Amaechi won the PDP ticket but was illegally substituted . At the general election Amaechis name was never on the ballot and it can be argued that voters voted for Omehia but the court ruled and handed Amaechi the mandate even though he never was on the Ballot for Rivers people

As long as its through a legal means either by elections or through the court. if Faleke wins then fine. Faleke can win and if he doesnt play the right politics be constitutionally impeached

In a country like Nigeria where we are multi ethnic and diverse, rotation of some sort is the only way even a Yoruba man Ibo or non hausa can aspire to be president.

Just like in Lagos an Epe man might never be able to rule without zoning, going by the Popularity contest elections are known to be



We've had some charge & bail lawyers running riot all over the media since yesterday...

A good majority of them insists this costitutional crisis is not synonymous to Boni Haruna & Amaechi scenario because there was no result. so there is nothing to build upon, that the inconclusive nature of the exercise before /after( jury still out on that) Audu's demise invalidates the process so a fresh election should be called...

From what i gleaned, the 49k votes in question is even an anomaly cos the total nos of PVCs collected is 25k which means declaring the result inconclusive in the first place is even a misnomer...

One conspiracy theorists opined that the REC got wind that Audu had bitten the dust & was "influenced" to declare it so in order to invalidate the process...

I believe doctrine of necessity should be invoked here & James Faleke should assume the post & the Igala can then send him packing in '19...

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