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Re: Ghanaians Fear Nigerian Domination Of Economy –minister by londoner: 9:14am On May 21, 2009
Ghanaians can say what they like here, the facts still remain. It was your own Minister who informed Nigerian that Ghanaians fear Nigerian domination in your own economy.

If she is lying, then take the issue up with her. if there is truth to it, then deal with it, simple.
Re: Ghanaians Fear Nigerian Domination Of Economy –minister by ikeyman00(m): 9:16am On May 21, 2009
one naija u are damn right, ghanaian youth are all turning to 419, wouldnt be suprised if the pretend to be nigerians

u are absolutely right

kewkwu-people now shut a f u k up for good plzzzzzzzzz


http://allafrica.com/stories/200901140783.html

It is sad to note that most internet café's seen on the streets of Accra have now been turned into fraud centers for the youth, especially young men, to practice such acts.

Accra File has realised that the practice of such acts is on the increase. These young men have abandoned their education and jobs, to practice such acts thinking that it is the simplest way of getting quick money.

Some of these boys go to the internet café's search through webs sites to find foreigners who want to marry African ladies, especially white people.

These boys defraud these victims by pretending as if they are ladies who are also into internet dating, by sending pictures of African ladies to these foreigners who are eager to date.

Accra File also got to know that most of these boys do not only use their brains and intelligence, but also seek assistance from native doctors, which is normally referred to "Agbala".

It has also been realised that there are many of such cafés operating in Accra. Some café owners in Accra stated that internet fraud was now common, and had also realised that they could also make money out of it.

Some further said that they make money out of it, by introducing the young guys to the websites where people in search of females to date post their photographs and other necessary information.

Some also said some of these young men come to the café to buy their time for months, and some for even a year.

Some also said it was also an opportunity for them, the owners, because the cafés are always busy, and they make a lot of money. In an interview with Bashiru Musah, at Abeka who practices internet fraud, he said he started this act about five years ago, and it has helped him so well.

According to him, his parents stopped looking after him when he was in form two in Senior Secondary School. His friends introduced him into the business, because he was facing difficulty in paying his school fees and had no pocket money as well.

He said it was his wish to stop that business, because it was risky.

On finding out how risky it was, Bashiru said normally when they go to their native doctors for medicine, they always go in groups.

"Anytime we go in groups, one of us do not come back home, because we sleep in a coffin for days. The native doctors tell us that you can only come out from the coffin alive, if you have a hard heart," he added.


He noted that the reason why he seeks assistance from native doctors was because it makes it easy for them to get money from the foreigners.

"We do it so that anything we ask them, they do."

To him, he wishes to stop and further his education, but he can't, because it is now in competition in his area.


[size=14pt]ghana has taken over 419 in bid to escape so much poverty in accra[/size]
Re: Ghanaians Fear Nigerian Domination Of Economy –minister by ikeyman00(m): 9:27am On May 21, 2009
ghana instigating hate through the radio joy fm
       
envious bastards   

Thur, May 21, 2009


Media 'destroying' Ghana-Nigeria relations
. , 24/03/2009

The Nigeria High Commissioner to Ghana, Senator Musiluo Obanikuro, has accused the Ghanaian media of exhibiting unprofessional behaviour which has led to a strained relationship between nationals of the two West African countries.

He said while political and business leaders of both countries are striving to develop strategies to develop their economies, the media in Ghana has taken a keen interest in painting Nigerian citizens and businesses black for no apparent reason.

Speaking to The Statesman after a media briefing, Senator Obanikro said after observing the operations of Ghana's media over the past nine months, "I have concluded that some elements in the media and the society are bent on destroying our good relationship, the progress we have achieved for centuries and the steady growth of our economies.”

The High Commissioner accused singled out Accra-based Joy Fm for censure, citing recent "false stories” about the Amalgamated bank Ghana, a subsidiary of Amalbank Plc of Nigeria, as well as issues and other incidents between the chief of Christian Village near Achimota, and some Nigerian settlers at was badly reported and as a result has generated negative interest in Nigeria.

According to the High Commissioner, Joy FM also reported last week that the chief of Achimota had organized the police to flush out some Nigerian settlers at the Christian Village for indulging in organized crimes. This he said turned out to be untrue when he personally met the chief to discuss the issue.
He therefore pleaded with the media especially Joy FM, to always double check their facts before airing their reports.

The High Commissioner recalled the 1969 unfortunate incident where nationals were deported from both countries, and warned that if the present situation was not handled expeditiously, great harm would be done.

"If the situation is not tackled, it will do us a great harm and disservice. These banks are not Nigerian Banks. They are rather Ghanaian banks with Nigerians having bulk shares or investments,” he stressed.
“The media must not generalise any issue that has been caused by a single person.

We must be circumspect in our reportage. Bashing Nigerians on radio and the newspapers today has become the order of the day. This must be addressed quickly or would turn into something horrible,” he admonished.

“If a financial institution has contravened a rule or regulation and is being investigated by the central bank, why don"t we wait for the regulator's report to emanate before we report on it and stop

The media is operating like it has the powers of the central bank and the police and trying to stampede and prejudice all investigations being conducted,” he lamented.

He proposed that a Nigerian be invited to take part in panel discussions when issues about the country crop up in the media to reduce the negative perception some hav e about Nigerians.

He noted that Nigerian investment in Ghana has officially reached $1 billion and created employment opportunities for thousands of Ghanaians. “Our plan is to help strengthen Ghana"s economy and I urge the media to join hands to achieve this objective rather than criminalising Nigerian businesses.”

He commended the Kufuor and Atta Mills administrations for working to fulfill their promise of creating attractive environment for investors and called on the media to join hands.

However, a reporter of Joy Fm who played a major role in airing the said stories insisted Joy FM did the right thing.
Speaking to The Statesman, on a condition of anonymity for now, he said the station called the High Commission for verification when the issue arose and after Amalbank had refused to comment.

“But nobody wanted to speak, hence the decision to air it. But one sided report is not credible for public consumption. You should have waited for their comment”, the Commissioner replied
 

http://www.thestatesmanonline.com/pages/news_detail.php?section=1&newsid=8253
Re: Ghanaians Fear Nigerian Domination Of Economy –minister by londoner: 9:29am On May 21, 2009
@shesi, I think you will find that there are about five Nigerian banks in Ghana, not "just"three as you suggested.

They all employ Ghanaians dont they? So if they leave Ghana, how can you say they will not be missed? It is reported that Zenith bank is the best performed this year in Ghana, despite only entering opening up in Ghana in 2005.

Lets not even talk about Globacom, who which I believe is now sponsoring your football league. How about companies like Silverbird? These are not petty trading outfits which do not bring much to your economy. Nigerian investment in Ghana by next year, is set to be about 1.5 billion dollars.

Are you really going to say thats nothing, really?

Now you can poo-poo that all you wish and claim that there is some type of exchange on equal footing. That is not backed up by any facts. I doubt you can provide me with Ghanaian equivalents of what I have described above, either in Nigeria or anywhere else in the West African region.
Re: Ghanaians Fear Nigerian Domination Of Economy –minister by yommyuk: 9:38am On May 21, 2009
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My naija and ghana brothers and sisters or whatever . check the links below and see the facts

COMPARE THE NIGERIAn AND GHANian STATISTICS wink

STOP THE FUSSING AND FIGHTING

GET REAL- shocked


http://www.trading-safely.com/ - Website for the COFACE Country Risk and Economic Studies Department

http://www.coface.com/CofacePortal/COM_en_EN/pages/home/Who_we_are - To check their credibility

OBAMA IS PREPARING TO GO TO GHANA WHY NOT NIGERIA

it is just like obama going to glasgow and ignoring London, or going to Sri lanka and ignoring India cry
Re: Ghanaians Fear Nigerian Domination Of Economy –minister by yommyuk: 9:46am On May 21, 2009
nigeria has to put their own house in order.

will you find a british man residing in the romania?

will you find a yankee man in argentina?

Every country have regulations to attract investments and protect local businesses. it is what
they call balance of trade.

But I have to agree Ghanians are cunts and I cannot imagine myself living there. angry
In the uk we call them MR TOMS or white man's toilet roll- always ready to get the lowest pay available
just to put food on the table- So naija's in GHANA - get the hell out of there shocked
Re: Ghanaians Fear Nigerian Domination Of Economy –minister by londoner: 9:49am On May 21, 2009
@yommyuk, so why do you think Ghanaians fear Nigerian domination then?

That is the issue here. You can try and make it be about something else, but the issue is Nigerian business activity in Ghana.

Nigerians can do legitanate business whereever they like. if they really want them to leave, they should ask them to do so. The banks in Ghana have paid for the priviledge.

They will not ask legitimate Naija business to leave, they have counted the cost, lol

There are Nigerian banks, telecoms companies and insurance companies in Ghana, I would like to know if there is legislation in Nigeria which prevents them from doing the same in Nigeria.

Please post it here. I would like to see it.
Re: Ghanaians Fear Nigerian Domination Of Economy –minister by yommyuk: 10:11am On May 21, 2009
My point is not about regulations that prevent business activity. My main point is nigeria businesses that want to operate in Ghana should comply.

The £350k threshold advocated is to target those okirika guys setting up shop unlawfully.

It is just like the UK - if you want to set up shop here as a foreigner - you have to met the terms required.

ignore the last paragraph I posted in my first post - It is just an add on. grin
Re: Ghanaians Fear Nigerian Domination Of Economy –minister by londoner: 10:16am On May 21, 2009
I agree that regulations should be adhered to. the truth is though, many Ghanaians actually have a problem with Nigerians setting up in their country even if they are not committing any wrong, thats the bitter truth.

In terms of Ghanaians setting up shop in Nigeria, the main reason is because they dont want to/have never considered it/or see it as beneath them.

One Ghanaian computer company has set up in Nigeria, with the help of a loan from a Nigerian bank. Noone is stopping him, in fact he has now grown the business to over $1m turnover.

Even when I was in Nigeria last year, there were a few Ghanaians doing their small trade, I highly doubt they were doing so with full compliance of the law either.
Re: Ghanaians Fear Nigerian Domination Of Economy –minister by ikeyman00(m): 10:36am On May 21, 2009
londer forget that bullshit u are talking about read this, then u will know


ahah ghana and naija na brathers and cistas!! ha menhhh gun shot ha
Nigeria: Ghana’s Ingratitude
Posted on February 28, 2008 by billkjarkloh


Just 2007, when the Republic of Ghana celebrated its golden jubilee of national independence, Ghanaian President John Kufuor showered praises on former president Olusegun Obasanjo for dishing out in 2006 $40 million to get the Ghanaian government out of a choking oil crisis. Acording to reports, President Obasanjo at the time rendered this assistance in an act of a “Big Brother role” without approval of the Federal Assembly. But as Jerry Uwah of Abuja wrote in his article: “the Ingratitude of Ghanaians,” it seems that there is a trade and economic stand off developing between Nigeria and Ghana, whereby Ghanaians are feeling that the Nigerians are overshadowing the Ghanaian economy. WWW.Panwhanpen.com brings you an analysis by the Nigerian comumnist: There is a casual hand bag in the Republic of Ghana derisively tagged “Nigerians are coming”. The bag is a mini version of the sack known in Nigeria as “Ghana must go.” “Nigerians are coming” derives its name from the shift in the flow of migrants which sees Nigerians trooping to Ghana for investment opportunities. “Ghana Must Go” found its way into the Nigerian lexicon in 1982 when former President Shehu Shagari flushed out thousands of illegal immigrants from the ECOWAS sub-region who had turned Nigeria into one big training camp for criminals.

Ghana had the highest number of illegal immigrants in Nigeria thus making the whole exercise look like an operation directed at Ghanaians alone. They all left in long convoys of Mercedes Benz 911 trucks with their belongings packed into the familiar sack that now attracts the euphemism “Ghana must go”.

Those were the days when Ghanaians fleeing economic hardship at home were everywhere in Nigeria. Today, the Ghanaian economy is on a stronger footing. The Nigerian economy is equally strong and several times larger than that of Ghana. But the direction of flow of migrants has changed.

More Nigerians are going to Ghana now than Ghanaians coming to Nigeria. In fact, the few Ghanaians left in Nigeria are returning home. Just like in the 1980s, the change in the flow of migrants is engendered by economic factors. But unlike in the 1980s when Ghanaians trooped to Nigeria in search of food, Nigerians flocking to Ghana now are looking for avenues to invest their petro-dollars.

Though small in size, the Ghanaian economy sits on a very solid electric power base and education system that makes Nigeria look like a primitive society when it comes to investment opportunities. Unilever, a leading multinational company with expansive production facilities in Nigeria, has relocated some of its production lines to Ghana because of the inclement investment weather in Nigeria. Some Nigerian middle class income earners now send their children to Ghanaian universities because of the menace of cultism and incessant strikes in Nigerian universities.

Besides, many Nigerian banks have opened cash offices or subsidiaries in Ghana just to register a foothold.

It is this new trend in the flow of migrants that prompted the naming of the said ubiquitous traveling bag “Nigerians are coming.”

Like many other countries in Africa, the Ghanaians are not taking it easy with the massive flow of Nigerian investment into their economy. Despite the fact that such investment creates more jobs in their economy, they see it first as a move by a stronger economy to dominate a weaker one. They are also scared of the “corrupting influence” of the average Nigerian investor.

It is in the light of this that one would see the recent investment law enacted by the Ghanaian government. This law stipulates that foreigners doing business in Ghana must have a capital base of $350,000 (about N41 million) to be allowed to operate. On the surface, the law is designed to protect Ghanaian investors from foreigners with better busine[color=#990000]ss acumen and background.
However, the implementation of the investment law suggests that it was designed primarily to tame Nigerians. Some Nigerian businesses have been closed down for allegedly failing to meet the new capital base. No one would complain if the agencies enforcing the new law had meted out equal punishment for every defaulting foreigner. But the reverse is the case[/color].

That is why the words of Salisu Abdul, Nigeria’s high commissioner to Ghana, should be considered very weighty.

After months of futile attempts at resolving the matter diplomatically, the high commissioner told the News Agency of Nigeria (NAN) that the lop-sided implementation of Ghana’s new investment law clearly indicates that it was targeted at Nigerians.

The Nigerian diplomat contends that the Ghanaian authorities did not close any Lebanese, South African or Kenyan shops in the process of enforcing the new law.

The only shops closed were those of Nigerians. Abdul’s attempts at settling the matter through the diplomatic channel met a concrete wall. He booked several appointments with the director-general of Ghana Investment Promotion Commission, but the man would not honour even one. The director-general repeatedly dodged the Nigerian diplomat. When the head of the Nigerian mission exhausted all avenues of settling the matter on his own, he reported to his superiors in Abuja.

The federal government dispatched the minister of commerce to meet the Ghanaian government on the issue. Like the head of the Nigerian mission in Accra, the minister met a stone wall. The Ghanaian government would not play ball.

The matter has now been referred to ECOWAS which has offered to mediate. From all indications, ECOWAS is not likely to make any head way in resolving the trade dispute.

One thing that could easily be noted in the Ghanaian government’s stand-off is that Salisu Abdul is a rare breed in Nigeria’s diplomatic corps. Nigerian diplomats are not known for putting up that kind of spirited fight for their compatriots in foreign lands.

There were reports of a Nigerian lady who was serving a jail term in Pakistan and delivered a baby while in jail. At the end of her prison term, the Nigerian mission in Pakistan reportedly asked her to invite her relatives in Nigeria to travel to Pakistan and secure a Nigerian passport for the new born baby before she could travel back home.

Abdul’s encounter with the Ghanaian government has shown that with men like him in the nation’s diplomatic corps, Nigerians in foreign lands could still have a ray of hope. On the other hand, the federal government has been too tolerant of the posture of the Ghanaian government.

There is no reason why the Ghanaian government should single out Nigerian investors for punishment in the implementation of the new law, except for the inferiority complex plaguing all impoverished African countries due to Nigeria’s perceived Big Brother posture.

South Africa has virtually taken over Nigeria’s economy and no one in Abuja has lifted a finger in protest. Nigerians are not complaining either. They see the development as an employment generating strategy. The world has become one big global village where people can invest wherever the investment climate is friendly.

About 60 per cent of the goods in US retail shops are made in China by subsidiaries of American companies. The availability of cheap labour and high technology in China has compelled hundreds of American and European companies to open production plants in China where they produce at cheaper rates and ship back to their different markets. The Ghanaian government should see Nigerian investors in their land the way Nigerians see South Africans.

They should be assisted to help grow the Ghanaian economy rather than being harassed out of business for the sheer intimidating size of their home economy and population.

As I stated earlier, the federal government is being too docile in its handling of the trade dispute with the Ghanaian government. The size or number of businesses shut down by the Ghanaian government should not be the determining factor in the response of the federal government.

After the reconciliatory move by the minister of commerce was rebuffed by the Ghanaian government, the federal government should have responded with a deadline within which the men in Accra must redress the situation or face retaliatory sanctions.

The smaller countries in Africa are watching the events in Accra with intense curiosity. If the Nigerian government allows the men in Accra to get away with their stupid, discriminatory protectionist law, Liberia may strike right back with a similar embargo despite the massive blood shed and billions of dollars that Nigeria invested in the struggle to end that country’s fratricidal war.

Like in Ghana, Nigerian businessmen in South Africa are not having it easy with the host country despite the friendly business environment that South African business men enjoy in Nigeria. The perception of governments all over the world is that Nigerians in foreign lands are on their own. The enormous economic and military muscle of the federal government does not even protect those at home; let alone of those in foreign lands.

Ghana’s protectionist law and the discriminatory manner of its implementation is an act of ingratitude when viewed from the fact that former president Olusegun Obasanjo in 2006 dolled out $40 million to get the Ghanaian government out of an asphyxiating oil crisis. Obasanjo was in such haste to act the Big Brother role did not even remember to seek the approval of the National Assembly before advancing that soft loan.

Last year during the 50th anniversary of Ghana’s independence, President John Kufuor paid a glowing tribute to the Nigerian government for its generous economic assistance to his country. The same man turned around a few months later to assent a bill that amounts to a trade barrier against Nigerians.

A government that could hit back so hard on its generous donor is definitely not a friend. It should, therefore, not be treated as one.

http://billkjarkloh./2008/02/28/nigeria-ghanas-ingratitude/

mennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnh what is wrong with yaradua, jesuus christ, what is wrong with this man, can u see that nigeria destiny at afraica lipsrsealed is at stake if u let the ghanainas get away with murder

what is wrong with yaradua!! never know this man is this useless, hey hey hey he has to go, ghana hahhahha for those nigerians out there, ahah there u have it!! yes ghana and nigeria are bladas and cistars oh well

yaradua must go, hope obj is listening, this is serious, africans hate nigeria with passion, ghana my ass, they are not my brother

do u know there is a bag in ghana called the nigerians are comin, even slowpoke one naija dnt know that

yes shesi hahha how far now, whats ur stake on this

the nigerians in ghana are creating job just like any other country, but these ulgy monkies never appreciates
Re: Ghanaians Fear Nigerian Domination Of Economy –minister by ikeyman00(m): 10:40am On May 21, 2009
My point is not about regulations that prevent business activity. My main point is nigeria businesses that want to operate in Ghana should comply.

The £350k threshold advocated is to target those okirika guys setting up shop unlawfully.

It is just like the UK - if you want to set up shop here as a foreigner - you have to met the terms required.

ignore the last paragraph I posted in my first post - It is just an add on.


u sit there, talkin with all that egg yoke on ur mouth, what regulation, when other foreigner that didnt meet their demand are allowed to stay

my friend wake up, pls cuz u makin me sick yummy
Re: Ghanaians Fear Nigerian Domination Of Economy –minister by londoner: 10:45am On May 21, 2009
@Ikeyman, I am convinced you are even reading what I am writing. What "BS" am i writing. just cut and paste it here. You have gotten it into your head that I am somehow defending Ghanaians, I am doing the opposite.

Just in a more dignified manner.

Just cut and paste what you are referring to in what I wrote. Thanx.
Re: Ghanaians Fear Nigerian Domination Of Economy –minister by ikeyman00(m): 10:55am On May 21, 2009
ghana on target to get nigeria to buy their salt worth $1.5 billion! hmmm nice one there kewku
     
  Tuesday, 24 September, 2002, 07:09 GMT 08:09 UK
Ghana targets Nigeria's salt market


Nigeria imports about $1.5bn worth of salt a year

Ghana's finance minister has called for foreign firms to exploit the West African nation's natural resources, especially its salt reserves.
"We need companies to invest in our salt mines so that we can produce the critical mass that will allow Nigeria to import from us," Kwamena Bartels, Minister for Private Sector Development, told BBC News Online.

Nigeria buys $1.5bn-worth of salt a year, in order to feed both domestic demand and its oil industry.

This salt is now primarily imported from Australia and Brazil, while Ghana's salt reserves remain largely untapped.

Mr Bartels says an investment of up to $150m would be enough to start producing enough salt to start winning trade contracts with Nigeria.

Seeking poverty solutions

The emphasis on salt comes as part of a wider drive to increase foreign direct investment into Ghana.

"I am disappointed with our growth rate of about 4%," Ghana's finance minister Yaw Osafo-Maafo said.

"We cannot reduce poverty by growing at these rates," he told the Commonwealth Business Council.

"Now is the time for Ghana to receive its fair share of foreign investment, and we must concentrate on the private sector."

Amongst other industries, Ghana is also hoping to attract more investment for its cocoa, magnesium, gold and timber industries in particular.

True democracy

Political stability is the key factor in ensuring that the funds now start flowing into Ghana, Mr Osafo-Maafo told BBC News Online.

Mr Osafo-Maafo admits that Ghana has suffered turbulence during its 44 years of independence, but believes a new era has begun.

"A democratically-elected government has just handed power over to another democratically-elected government," he said.

"That to me is the beginning of stability in Ghana."

And Mr Osafo-Maafo was keen to stress that Ghana - as arguably the most developed and most stable country in West Africa - is the region's hotspot for future investment.

"If you had money to invest, would you chose Nigeria or Ghana?"
  ahah see how crafty these poeple are, he want nigeria to buy his salt but at the same time read his comment


its for those that dnt know ekwesi people, i knew them from day one

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/2277235.stm
Re: Ghanaians Fear Nigerian Domination Of Economy –minister by ikeyman00(m): 10:59am On May 21, 2009
shesi

anticipating ur highly intelligent response with kindness
Re: Ghanaians Fear Nigerian Domination Of Economy –minister by yommyuk: 1:41pm On May 21, 2009
@ikeyman

Is stating my views and opinion making u sick?  undecided
na u sabi



Just 2007, when the Republic of Ghana celebrated its golden jubilee of national independence, Ghanaian President John Kufuor showered praises on former president Olusegun Obasanjo for dishing out in 2006 $40 million to get the Ghanaian government out of a choking oil crisis
[b]Acording to reports, President Obasanjo at the time rendered this assistance in an act of a “Big Brother role” without approval of the Federal Assembly
.[/b]

dishing $40 million to Ghana with no due approval - what did this gesture achieve? How was it spent? - padi padi handshake


It is in the light of this that one would see the recent investment law enacted by the Ghanaian government. This law stipulates that foreigners doing business in Ghana must have a capital base of $350,000 (about N41 million) to be allowed to operate. On the surface, the law is designed to protect Ghanaian investors from foreigners with better busine[color=#990000]ss acumen and background

There is nothing wrong in a govt reguralising the inflow of foreign investment. This is normal business pratice. The local businesses must be protected. The investment must be beneficial to all parties concerned. This will allow the Host govt to attract and direct  investment into sectors where  there is real and actual need for it.

In 2008, the Australian govt  Increased the notification threshold for foreign investment in existing businesses from $5 million ($3 million for rural businesses) to $50 million.

In the Mid Nineties in the UK, naijas were setting up shop and were selling goods that were prohibted (e.g Bush meat). However the chinese were doing it also, selling medicine derived from protected animals. The chinese improvised by improving their packaging , while the naija's have not moved post.

In Nigeria, We get away with non compliance atitudes, evade tax regulations, ignore health and safety rules and many more. We take these bad business pratices abroad and expect the Host govt to be flexible and accomodating. - GET REAL

Most businesses that seek expansion to  foreign lands in my opinion should first establish a sound base in their home country. And if u decide to
set up abroad. research the business enviroment, regulations and market u are venturing into.

South Africa has virtually taken over Nigeria’s economy and no one in Abuja has lifted a finger in protest. Nigerians are not complaining either. They see the development as an employment generating strategy. The world has become one big global village where people can invest wherever the investment climate is friendly

I agree with the advantage u stated above employment. However this should be a Catalyser for the nigeria counterparts to upgrade and compete.
If the naija govt start imposing regulations that favors the naijas - then so be it cheesy

My questions for u guys on here?

Why is there a greater influx of naija's to Ghana of recent and not vice versa?

What is the Net benefits to both parties?

Should the naija enterprenuer comply to the regulations of the Host GOVT  and stop complaining?

If they feel marginalised in Ghana - should they pack up? - We have over 36 states in naija - all these states have at least 4 or 5 cities in them.
Re: Ghanaians Fear Nigerian Domination Of Economy –minister by ikeyman00(m): 4:51pm On May 21, 2009
My questions for u guys on here?

Why is there a greater influx of naija's to Ghana of recent and not vice versa?

What is the Net benefits to both parties?

Should the naija enterprenuer comply to the regulations of the Host GOVT and stop complaining?

If they feel marginalised in Ghana - should they pack up? - We have over 36 states in naija - all these states have at least 4 or 5 cities in them.

yommuy

to be honest, i dnt answer silly qestions im afraid

just too stupid for me seriously speakin

why dnt u ask the indians and the chinese the same question
Re: Ghanaians Fear Nigerian Domination Of Economy –minister by ikeyman00(m): 4:53pm On May 21, 2009
where are those ghana must go!!

morons !! i still waiting, dnt pretend that u didnt see this, u can log in with another id, neither way, dnt hide for too long plz
Re: Ghanaians Fear Nigerian Domination Of Economy –minister by dasa: 6:23pm On May 21, 2009
i am happy ghana has found a little oil. i am sure they'll make better use of it than Nigeria.

the reality is, Nigeria is slowly colonising Ghana.
Re: Ghanaians Fear Nigerian Domination Of Economy –minister by yeswecan(m): 7:44pm On May 21, 2009
@Shesi

The vacuity in your comments about Nigeria is not a shock to me; even South Africans think we are the bad eggs in their beloved country.

You are a wrong perceiver of Nigeria. The real reason why we are been hated across Africa is the dominating factor we move along with.We can survive anywhere and still floss like its all good. We like showing up.Good or bad.
You said Nigeria is not among top 10 foreign investors in Ghana,  that’s a BIG FAT lie. Nigerians are the highest Africa investors in Ghana. The banking sector has been sold out to Nigerians overnight. Some of the Nigerian banks in Ghana are Zenith Bank, United Bank for Africa (UBA), Intercontinental Bank and Guarantee Trust Bank (GTB).  Please tell me how many indigenous banks you have in Ghana.   COCAIN trafficking in Ghana is 10 times higher than Nigeria's. Cyber crime is inimical to Ghana's development and most of these criminals are often grouped as Nigerians because of our population. To the international community, there is no such thing as crime in Ghana (the criminals are grouped among Nigerians)

If you can imagine how populated we are and bring out a figure of the corrupt once among us, then you will understand we are not as bad as we are been perceived. We are just the scapegoat here.I know we got issues but don't ever compare Nigeria to Ghana in anyway. You have a stable democracy and we don’t… this is the worst we can ever be; you are yet to see yours. Nigerians are happy people and we know how to capture anyone’s attention (this is the reason we were named the happiest people on planet earth). I can imagine having a stable democracy and responsible leaders.
Re: Ghanaians Fear Nigerian Domination Of Economy –minister by yeswecan(m): 8:03pm On May 21, 2009
B4 you make any comparison check the circumstances. The fact is that what’s happening in Nigeria can only happen in Nigeria. We have over 300 ethnic groups, these ethnic groups are not treated equal, we have majority and minority,  abuse of human rights by governmental bodies, imagine 158 million Ghanaians living without a responsible government. We have been doing this for as long as we can remember. The struggle for survival gave birth to Internet fraud; you won't believe some of these fraudsters actually use the funds for education and support of their sibling.

PERCEPTION IS NOT EVERYTHING. Nigeria is not as corrupt as America or Great Britain not even Russia if you check the circumstances.
Re: Ghanaians Fear Nigerian Domination Of Economy –minister by ikeyman00(m): 8:13pm On May 21, 2009
^^^^^
why preachin sermon, or do u think ghana dnt have their own wahala

ask him who burn their minister office in accra just after their election!

i laugh when i see all these sermon like ghana dnt have child prostitute boomin in accra
Re: Ghanaians Fear Nigerian Domination Of Economy –minister by yommyuk: 9:22pm On May 21, 2009
@ ikeyman

I did not expect u to answer the questions. You call d questions silly because the answers are obvious.
Look into the mirror bros and get real. You better move around.Try and gain access to real corporate info.
Nigeria to the business world is crap. plain and simple.Do you know how many multinationals that are using Ghana as
a west african hub for their business. I bet u don't. I work in one of them. The only viable resource of interest in Nigeria is OIL
and that oneself is katakata.

@ yeswecan
The real reason why we are been hated across Africa is the dominating factor we move along with


On what planet do uuu live? Do you know how many nigerians are languishing in Norh africa in order to cross over? Majority of them are illegals
Are u talking about the naijas in South africa selling drugs? THAT IS WHAT NAIJA IS DOMINATING

Yes we have law abiding ones but in proportion to the bad eggs. The facts are well known. You guys need to get out more and see what is going on
naijas are now calling themselves dominicans because of this image factor. u take ur green pali to tunsia, Egypt, SA, Bostwana, Morrocco, and let us see how dominating u are. African gaint my arse.

naija banks setting shop in ghana - doing what? - money transfer abi? bull. what benefits are the nigeria entrepeneurs getting from them. Are they there to aid the naijas in Ghana or just some smart arse guys setting up shop to make a buck.

GT BANK is now in the Uk - Their banks accounts are the most expensive to run in the UK. and you naijas will be Commending them.
Ghana has created an enviroment that is Conducive to foreigners to invest which include nigerians. This should be the other way round.
Nigeria should be what USA is to North and South America. A MAGNET.

This is the reason why the Western world still call us developing world- We fail to develop our mentality. Most of the business we have are opportunist ventures trying to make a fast one. No innovation. Just copy cat business enterprises with no solid exectution.

Check out the chinese, they are also well travelled. are u talking about drugs, they do it in tonnes. Is it Counterfeiting - they too are good at it
do they have the same general reputation like naija- NO because they have upgraded-

Naija DOMINATING AFRICA  undecided MY ARSE angry

Baba Fela knew what he was talking about when he sang LOOKU LOOKU  shocked
Re: Ghanaians Fear Nigerian Domination Of Economy –minister by shesi(m): 10:22pm On May 21, 2009
@ikeyman00
i have a life dude so pardon me if i dont respond to your viral posts every minute. why are you so obsessed with insulting Ghana? did some ghana boy steal your girl or something? for such a small insignificant country, you sure know a lot about us.

of all the blindly-patriotic guys on this thread, you are the most nonsensical. seriously dude, i can't make out what you're trying to say 90% of the time. And when someone asks a question you can't answer, you resort to insults.

YOU need to get out more and see the real world.  You don't seem to understand the way international commerce works? A LOAN is NOT a donation. Nigeria gave Ghana a 40mil dollar loan so Nigeria owns Ghana? or Nigeria is Ghana's Knight in shinning armor because it loaned Ghana 40mil? Do you know what that loan was used for? It was used to complete Ghana's section of the West African Gas Pipeline Project. Do you know who benefits the most from that Gas line? NIGERIA. Why do you think your government was eager to have the project completed. Keep in mind, this is not natural gas we are talking about. This is REFINED gas. REfined in Ghana. That is why the Ghana government couldnt be bothered too much about the completion of the pipeline. Because we dont need it.  Sure we will make some money selling refined gas to our neighbours but it was not a priority. This is why the Nigerian government took the initiative. It was more in their interest. Dude, this is how internation commerce is. Nobody gives anybody free money. If they do, they are called AID, not LOANS. Get educated my friend.

All your other points are similarly misinformed. Okay, so i was wrong, there is 5  nigerian banks in Ghana instead of 3. How big are those banks? What is their market share in Ghana? How many people do they employ? How long have they been operating? As i told you before, our banking sector has only recently been deregulated to allow nigerian input. And as i again mentioned before, By GHana banking regulations, the bank operating in GHana must be at least 45% Ghanaian owned. FACT. And i repeat, all operations of the Nigerian banks in Ghana are small scale, compared to the other banks. They mostly deal in corporate clients. Investments. stuff like that. Again, this is FACT.

My Question to you is this: Did the government of Ghana come begging Nigerians banks to come and set up shop in Ghana? or was it the other way around? Since when have businessmen (and bankers of all people) been interested in giving alms. You think those Nigerian banks are in Ghana out of the goodness of their hearts to help us develop our economy? pfff, i am tired of you sef. Did Nigerian go beggin MTN to come into your economy? If MTN pulls out of Nigeria, are there no nigerian companies which can take their market share? Do you now see how illogical your arguments are?

And you have taken your time to outline a lot of vices in Ghana. SO WHAT? When did anybody say we are a country of angels? Did anyone say there is no crime in Ghana? Like i said before, PERCEPTION IS EVERYTHING.

As yommyuk mentioned, Who is more criminal than the Chinese? Every big city in the world has a chinatown. and it is always the place to find anything illegal in that country. From fake passports to buying a baby, it is always chinatown. SO why have they not gained notoriety as criminals? Answer: they are suave! and diversified! put simply, there is more credible business in china than illegal business. or at least that's what the international community thinks.

In the case of Nigeria, you have somehow allowed your country to be defined by the actions of the small minority criminals. And the little litle disturbances from niger delta (a very small part of a big country). AGAIN, PERCEPTION IS EVERYTHING. If everytime the international community hears your name in the news it is either fraud, or disturbances, that is how the average world citizen will view nigeria. simple as that.

Bottom line is this: if you think your country has arrived, FINE. Enjoy. We in Ghana know that we have a long way to go, so we are working towards that. THis is life. You see one man sitting in front on his one bedroom house with a content smile on his face. He has achieved his dream. And then you see another man who is a millionaire with a 5 bedroom house working on Sunday because he wants to be a billonaire. This is life.
Re: Ghanaians Fear Nigerian Domination Of Economy –minister by yommyuk: 10:38pm On May 21, 2009
@shesi

which one of my sisters do u want?  wink grin

Now I can rest my case cool
Re: Ghanaians Fear Nigerian Domination Of Economy –minister by ikeyman00(m): 10:46pm On May 21, 2009
@ikeyman00
i have a life dude so pardon me if i dont respond to your viral posts every minute. why are you so obsessed with insulting Ghana? did some ghana boy steal your girl or something? for such a small insignificant country, you sure know a lot about us.

of all the blindly-patriotic guys on this thread, you are the most nonsensical. seriously dude, i can't make out what you're trying to say 90% of the time. And when someone asks a question you can't answer, you resort to insults.

YOU need to get out more and see the real world. You don't seem to understand the way international commerce works? A LOAN is NOT a donation. Nigeria gave Ghana a 40mil dollar loan so Nigeria owns Ghana? or Nigeria is Ghana's Knight in shinning armor because it loaned Ghana 40mil? Do you know what that loan was used for? It was used to complete Ghana's section of the West African Gas Pipeline Project. Do you know who benefits the most from that Gas line? NIGERIA. Why do you think your government was eager to have the project completed. Keep in mind, this is not natural gas we are talking about. This is REFINED gas. REfined in Ghana. That is why the Ghana government couldnt be bothered too much about the completion of the pipeline. Because we dont need it. Sure we will make some money selling refined gas to our neighbours but it was not a priority. This is why the Nigerian government took the initiative. It was more in their interest. Dude, this is how internation commerce is. Nobody gives anybody free money. If they do, they are called AID, not LOANS. Get educated my friend.

All your other points are similarly misinformed. Okay, so i was wrong, there is 5 nigerian banks in Ghana instead of 3. How big are those banks? What is their market share in Ghana? How many people do they employ? How long have they been operating? As i told you before, our banking sector has only recently been deregulated to allow nigerian input. And as i again mentioned before, By GHana banking regulations, the bank operating in GHana must be at least 45% Ghanaian owned. FACT. And i repeat, all operations of the Nigerian banks in Ghana are small scale, compared to the other banks. They mostly deal in corporate clients. Investments. stuff like that. Again, this is FACT.

My Question to you is this: Did the government of Ghana come begging Nigerians banks to come and set up shop in Ghana? or was it the other way around? Since when have businessmen (and bankers of all people) been interested in giving alms. You think those Nigerian banks are in Ghana out of the goodness of their hearts to help us develop our economy? pfff, i am tired of you sef. Did Nigerian go beggin MTN to come into your economy? If MTN pulls out of Nigeria, are there no nigerian companies which can take their market share? Do you now see how illogical your arguments are?

And you have taken your time to outline a lot of vices in Ghana. SO WHAT? When did anybody say we are a country of angels? Did anyone say there is no crime in Ghana? Like i said before, PERCEPTION IS EVERYTHING.

As yommyuk mentioned, Who is more criminal than the Chinese? Every big city in the world has a chinatown. and it is always the place to find anything illegal in that country. From fake passports to buying a baby, it is always chinatown. SO why have they not gained notoriety as criminals? Answer: they are suave! and diversified! put simply, there is more credible business in china than illegal business. or at least that's what the international community thinks.

In the case of Nigeria, you have somehow allowed your country to be defined by the actions of the small minority criminals. And the little litle disturbances from niger delta (a very small part of a big country). AGAIN, PERCEPTION IS EVERYTHING. If everytime the international community hears your name in the news it is either fraud, or disturbances, that is how the average world citizen will view nigeria. simple as that.

Bottom line is this: if you think your country has arrived, FINE. Enjoy. We in Ghana know that we have a long way to go, so we are working towards that. THis is life. You see one man sitting in front on his one bedroom house with a content smile on his face. He has achieved his dream. And then you see another man who is a millionaire with a 5 bedroom house working on Sunday because he wants to be a billonaire. This is life

complete trash!! nonesense!!!! time consuming nonesense
Re: Ghanaians Fear Nigerian Domination Of Economy –minister by ikeyman00(m): 10:50pm On May 21, 2009
i can only wish u read the whole thread and stop fooling ur self

economics expert!!! hahhha dnt make me laugh

you had your cohort sayin ehhh nigeria ecomony is big duely to the size of population, and he said the same anolumous to germany

well, i said thats nonesense mrz ghanaian, cuz cars export alone generate alot to germany economy, not the population, rather we are talkin on the capacity

the same could be said on the japanese, cuz they are on the top five in the world, population, ghana, u are so lane i must say
Re: Ghanaians Fear Nigerian Domination Of Economy –minister by ikeyman00(m): 10:54pm On May 21, 2009
so we are talkin on production size- economy not

consumer 's capacity economy in my own terms

so ghana what next?

are u gona wake up, or shall i wake u up

nevertheless u have a life?
Re: Ghanaians Fear Nigerian Domination Of Economy –minister by hilli666(m): 10:55pm On May 21, 2009
Did we not allow u to sell Ghana bread in Agege. Thats the only good thing from Ghana. Ghana bread and tea. But now we even make the bread our self so it should be call Naija bread, lol. Hey ignore me ohh, Im just yapping oh. I love all my Africans equally.  




Except Ghanians, lol (just kidding) No seriously I mean it!!
Re: Ghanaians Fear Nigerian Domination Of Economy –minister by ikeyman00(m): 10:58pm On May 21, 2009
does it occur to u that ghana practise protectionism

they have taken over 419 in west africa

they are edging up gradually in drugs running

go through the thread, to see for yourself
Re: Ghanaians Fear Nigerian Domination Of Economy –minister by ikeyman00(m): 10:59pm On May 21, 2009
did london beg ghana to supply and sell kin kin, wache, in england
Re: Ghanaians Fear Nigerian Domination Of Economy –minister by ikeyman00(m): 11:01pm On May 21, 2009
love or hate

by default nigerians are born to love africa

which can be trace back to many year

however, u can imgaine if someone respect u, them he would expect u not to take him for a ride

so carry on,i can only be real,

yes hah u love people that hate u; that dont make no sense

well i think we respect them but dnt love f uck all

so keep ur eye busy; keep readin

ahah im waitin
Re: Ghanaians Fear Nigerian Domination Of Economy –minister by hilli666(m): 11:02pm On May 21, 2009
Nigeria is the most populated African country, beacuse all of you would not stay in your own contry. Its so populated with immigrant (like Ghanians) That i had to move to another country. You all go back to you respective nationalities so i can return home with my family. Haba every body one enjoy Nigeria money (yet dem go dey yab us) Una think say all the 419 people na Nigerian? Now a days everybody claims to be Nigerian. Even Forest Whitteker and Danny Glover. If dem cath Ghana man for 419 e go im be Nigerian. Likewise anybody, IN SHORT UNA DON MAKE ME VEX. ALL OF UNA MUST TO COMOT FOR WE COUNTRY ASAP.

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