Afam:

@Lwandle,

Well stated.

From day one I have always supported Mugabe's position regardless of some of his mistakes because after all said and done he is bold enough to say no to slavery, theft of lands and racist induced policies.

Granted, as you stated this is not an event but a process. I believe that ultimately Zimbabweans will win and chart a course that no foreign nation can destroy.

Unfortunately, a lot of dependence on institutions like IMF, World bank etc is making it difficult for countries to survive unless these countries are ready to look inward and start a revolution that will have all the ingredients of a determined progressive nation that will produce what others would be willing to pay for.

Africans have what it takes to move this continent forward only if we can deal with the Western stooges planted in many countries and our own corrupt leaders.

Some if not all the corrupt leaders were probably planted by these same Western stooges. No wonder they took Kwame Nkrumah out.

Tudór:

All these you've written are plain rubbish and ridiculous conspiracy theories. PURE MUGABE PROPAGANDA!

GBAM! What an intelligent one line response to post full of relevant information from someone that maybe from Zimbabwe from the write up.

Every single point that proves the complicity of the West in the Zimbabwe problem is propaganda. And they say Africa has a long way to go and some of us wonder why.

Afam:

GBAM! What an intelligent one line response to post full of relevant information from someone that maybe from Zimbabwe from the write up.

Every single point that proves the complicity of the West in the Zimbabwe problem is propaganda. And they say Africa has a long way to go and some of us wonder why.

Anothe ZIMBABWE HERALD writer. At least they justify their salaries.

Zimbabwe would have gone to the dogs a long time ago were it not for SADC and China who have resisted at great cost the pressures put on them to isolate and blockade Zimbabwe.

Tudor the only rebuttals you seem to have are either insults or its Mugabes Propaganda. If you choose to be blind to the realities that are on the ground well good for you.
The fact is as we speak the USA has a planned for a post Mugabe Zanu PF Zimbabwe, if you can be bothered read here: http://www.cfr.org/content/publications/attachments/Zimbabwe_CSR31.pdf.

If thats too long a read for you then Stephen Gowans has summarized it in plain simple english for you here: http://gowans./2009/07/21/a-handsome-investment-opportunity-washington%e2%80%99s-plan-for-a-post-mugabe-zimbabwe/

This is the reality that is now my friend and trust me its not propaganda from Mugabe.

Mugabe is right these people are IDIOTS indeed!

The only prescriptions they have for Africa and africans are those that keep us dependent on them.

Nothing they do is ever done for our benefit even though they pretend to be paragons of VIRTUE!

Their way of life is based on EXPLOITATION of weaker nations for their benefits.

The only way they can maintain their way of life is by keeping us subjugated through puppets or never ending proxy wars. (Ask yourself Tudor where these uneducated poor illiterate rebels get their state of the art weapons from?)

If we are weak and confused as a people who will stop them despoiling what is rightfully ours for free??

This is a snap shot of ZDERA just for you TUDOR as described by a Canadian STEPHEN GOWANS. Google www.gowans. for more non MUGABE propaganda.

ZDERA is not a regime of targeted sanctions against individuals, as many believe. Sanctions against individuals do exist, but ZDERA is something altogether different. ZDERA has two aspects. First, it authorizes the US president to “support an independent and free press and electronic media in Zimbabwe” and “provide for democracy and governance programs in Zimbabwe.” This is code for doing openly what the CIA used to do covertly: destabilize foreign governments. Second, it instructs the United States executive director to each international financial institution (the World Bank and IMF, for example) to oppose and vote against:

(1) any extension by the respective institution of any loan, credit, or guarantee to the government of Zimbabwe; or

(2) any cancellation or reduction of indebtedness owed by the government of Zimbabwe to the United States or any international financial institution.

Since ZDERA was passed in 2001, Washington has blocked all lines of credit, development assistance and balance of payment support from international lending institutions to Zimbabwe.

When the act was passed, then US president George W. Bush declared his hope that “the provisions of this important legislation will support the people of Zimbabwe in their struggle to effect peaceful democratic change, achieve economic growth, and restore the rule of law.” [2]

Since effecting peaceful democratic change meant ousting the Zanu-PF government and restoring the rule of law meant forbidding the uncompensated expropriation of white farm land, what Bush was really saying was that he hoped the legislation would help overthrow the government and put an end to fast-track land reform.

ZDERA was co-drafted by one of the opposition MDC’s white parliamentarians, and introduced as a bill in the US Congress in March of 2001 by the Republican senator, William Frist. The legislation was co-sponsored by the Republican rightwing senator, Jesse Helms, and the Democratic senators Hilary Clinton (now Secretary of State), Joseph Biden (now Vice-President) and Russell Feingold.

The MDC were very much complicit in all this but now they r crying foul coz their masters refuse to lift the sanctions lol!!

The MDC had always been reluctant to admit that sanctions had crippled Zimbabwe’s economy, and more reluctant still to call for their removal. This is to be expected. In opposition, the MDC’s goal was to blame the government for the country’s economic difficulties. If it could do so convincingly, and at the same time persuade voters it could do a better job, it chances of prevailing at the polls would increase accordingly. Likewise, if it refused to add to the pressure on Western governments to lift sanctions, and even encouraged Western governments to maintain or escalate them, the government would remain burdened with the political liability of an ailing economy. But times have changed. The MDC has formed a coalition government with Zanu-PF, and the MDC controls the finance ministry. Sanctions are no longer in the party’s interest, and the MDC has, as a consequence, changed its tune. Not only does it now acknowledge ZDERA, the finance minister, Tendai Biti, complains about it bitterly.

“The World Bank has right now billions and billions of dollars that we have access to but we can’t access those dollars unless we have dealt with and normalized our relations with the IMF. We cannot normalize our relations with the IMF because of the voting power, it’s a blocking voting power of America and people who represent America on that board cannot vote differently because of ZDERA.” [4]

As bad as ZDERA is, it’s not the only sanctions regime the United States has used to sabotage Zimbabwe’s economy. Addressing the Senate Foreign Relations African Affairs Subcommittee, Jendaya Frazer, who was George W. Bush’s top diplomat in Africa, noted that the United States had imposed financial and travel restrictions on 135 individuals and 30 businesses. US citizens and corporations who violate the sanctions face penalties ranging from $250,000 to $500,000. “We are looking to expand the category of Zimbabweans who are covered. We are also looking at sanctions on government entities as well, not just individuals.” She added that the US Treasury Department was looking into ways to target sectors of Zimbabwe’s critical mining industry. [5]

On July 25, 2008 Bush announced that sanctions on Zimbabwe would be stepped up. He outlawed US financial transactions with a number of key Zimbabwe companies and froze their US assets. The enterprises included: the Zimbabwe Mining Development Corporation (which controls all mineral exports); the Zimbabwe Iron and Steel Company; Minerals Marketing Corporation of Zimbabwe; Osleg, or Operation Sovereign Legitimacy, the commercial arm of Zimbabwe’s army; Industrial Development Corporation; the Infrastructure Development Bank of Zimbabwe; ZB Financial Holdings; and the Agriculture Development Bank of Zimbabwe. [6]

In early March 2009, Obama extended sanctions for another year, announcing that,

“The crisis constituted by the actions and policies of certain members of the government of Zimbabwe and other persons to undermine Zimbabwe’s democratic processes or institutions has not been resolved. These actions and policies pose a continuing unusual and extraordinary threat to the foreign policy of the United States.” [7]
It would be more accurate to say that US sanctions pose a continuing unusual and extraordinary threat to the economy of Zimbabwe.

TUDOR we live in the technological age my brother one cannot claim ignorance anymore in this day and age all it needs is for one to use their common sense and see what the truth is!

These actions and policies pose a CONTINUEING UNUSUAL and EXTRAORDINARY THREAT to the foreign policy of the United States.

Why would the actions and policies of a TINY ECONOMICALLY INSIGNIFICANT country like Zimbabwe pose a CONTINUEING UNUSUAL and EXTRAORDINARY THREAT to the foreign policy of the mighty United States?

Is it not the fear that other third world countries who are subjugated and raped continually day and night might look at Zimbabwe and do the exact same thing ie take ownership of what is rightfully theirs?

If this were to happen what would happen to the PARASITES from the WEST whose economies are BUILT on GREED and EXPLOITATION (Capitalism).

What would happen if NIGERIA nationalised all the oil fields and built refineries to produce and sell only finished goods? Can you even begin to imagine how many by products there are from crude oil

The oil companies make more profit in a year from your OIL then what they pay to your gvt! The resource is your but the wealth is theirs!

Trully speaking how can the parasite benefit more from what is yours then you yourselves?

Well in Zimbabwe we have said to hell with that!

Our GOD given resources shall benefit US first and foremost before anyone else and its for this simple reason why we are described as a CONTINUEING UNUSUAL and EXTRAORDINARY THREAT to the foreign policy of the United States by BARACK OBAMA himself!!

The Struggle continues!!!

Lwandle:

Zimbabwe would have gone to the dogs a long time ago were it not for SADC and China who have resisted at great cost the pressures put on them to isolate and blockade Zimbabwe.

Yes indeed! Thank god for SADC and china.
Instead of mugabe to import food,health supplies or agricultural infrastructure he decided to import billions in weapons before elections,right?
I guess it's the west that conspired to buy the weapons in mugabe's name. . . .
Rubbish.

Tudor the only rebuttals you seem to have are either insults or its Mugabes Propaganda.

Same way you and your ZANU-PF lovers label everything western propaganda, it not?

If you choose to be blind to the realities that are on the ground well good for you.

On the contrary, i'm well acquainted with the realities on ground. Zimbabweans are starving, their health care is dead, no education, the police and zanu-pf members constantly harass and kill them, human rights abuses by the govt, mugabe imprisons opposition members, imports billions in weapons yet claim there's no money, Mugabe throws flamboyant birthday bashes while hunger and cholera ravage the population. All these are realities and all you do is point out baseless neo-colonial conspiracy theories. What a dishonest joke!

The fact is as we speak the USA has a planned for a post Mugabe Zanu PF Zimbabwe, if you can be bothered read here: http://www.cfr.org/content/publications/attachments/Zimbabwe_CSR31.pdf.

If thats too long a read for you then Stephen Gowans has summarized it in plain simple english for you here: http://gowans./2009/07/21/a-handsome-investment-opportunity-washington%e2%80%99s-plan-for-a-post-mugabe-zimbabwe/

How does this rubbish mean anything??
Zimbabweans are HUNGRY and DYING, and your giving me links about supposed western preparations for post mugabe. Are you okay??

This is the reality that is now my friend and trust me its not propaganda from Mugabe.

I don't expect mugabe to label his propaganda "from mugabe". You know them by the lies and pathetic excuses they stink of. What you've written my friend is pure MUGABE PROPAGANDA.

hey one of my posts has gone missing whats happening

Nomatter I will just repost it for those who wanna hear the truth!

Mugabe is right these people are IDIOTS indeed!

The only prescriptions they have for Africa and africans are those that keep us dependent on them.

Nothing they do is ever done for our benefit even though they pretend to be paragons of VIRTUE!

Their way of life is based on EXPLOITATION of weaker nations for their benefits.

The only way they can maintain their way of life is by keeping us subjugated through puppets or never ending proxy wars. (Ask yourself Tudor where these uneducated poor illiterate rebels get their state of the art weapons from?)

If we are weak and confused as a people who will stop them despoiling what is rightfully ours for free??

This is a snap shot of ZDERA just for you TUDOR as described by a Canadian STEPHEN GOWANS. Google www.gowans. for more non MUGABE propaganda.

ZDERA is not a regime of targeted sanctions against individuals, as many believe. Sanctions against individuals do exist, but ZDERA is something altogether different. ZDERA has two aspects. First, it authorizes the US president to “support an independent and free press and electronic media in Zimbabwe” and “provide for democracy and governance programs in Zimbabwe.” This is code for doing openly what the CIA used to do covertly: destabilize foreign governments. Second, it instructs the United States executive director to each international financial institution (the World Bank and IMF, for example) to oppose and vote against:

(1) any extension by the respective institution of any loan, credit, or guarantee to the government of Zimbabwe; or

(2) any cancellation or reduction of indebtedness owed by the government of Zimbabwe to the United States or any international financial institution.

Since ZDERA was passed in 2001, Washington has blocked all lines of credit, development assistance and balance of payment support from international lending institutions to Zimbabwe.

When the act was passed, then US president George W. Bush declared his hope that “the provisions of this important legislation will support the people of Zimbabwe in their struggle to effect peaceful democratic change, achieve economic growth, and restore the rule of law.” [2]

Since effecting peaceful democratic change meant ousting the Zanu-PF government and restoring the rule of law meant forbidding the uncompensated expropriation of white farm land, what Bush was really saying was that he hoped the legislation would help overthrow the government and put an end to fast-track land reform.

ZDERA was co-drafted by one of the opposition MDC’s white parliamentarians, and introduced as a bill in the US Congress in March of 2001 by the Republican senator, William Frist. The legislation was co-sponsored by the Republican rightwing senator, Jesse Helms, and the Democratic senators Hilary Clinton (now Secretary of State), Joseph Biden (now Vice-President) and Russell Feingold.

The MDC were very much complicit in all this but now they r crying foul coz their masters refuse to lift the sanctions lol!!

The MDC had always been reluctant to admit that sanctions had crippled Zimbabwe’s economy, and more reluctant still to call for their removal. This is to be expected. In opposition, the MDC’s goal was to blame the government for the country’s economic difficulties. If it could do so convincingly, and at the same time persuade voters it could do a better job, it chances of prevailing at the polls would increase accordingly. Likewise, if it refused to add to the pressure on Western governments to lift sanctions, and even encouraged Western governments to maintain or escalate them, the government would remain burdened with the political liability of an ailing economy. But times have changed. The MDC has formed a coalition government with Zanu-PF, and the MDC controls the finance ministry. Sanctions are no longer in the party’s interest, and the MDC has, as a consequence, changed its tune. Not only does it now acknowledge ZDERA, the finance minister, Tendai Biti, complains about it bitterly.

“The World Bank has right now billions and billions of dollars that we have access to but we can’t access those dollars unless we have dealt with and normalized our relations with the IMF. We cannot normalize our relations with the IMF because of the voting power, it’s a blocking voting power of America and people who represent America on that board cannot vote differently because of ZDERA.” [4]

As bad as ZDERA is, it’s not the only sanctions regime the United States has used to sabotage Zimbabwe’s economy. Addressing the Senate Foreign Relations African Affairs Subcommittee, Jendaya Frazer, who was George W. Bush’s top diplomat in Africa, noted that the United States had imposed financial and travel restrictions on 135 individuals and 30 businesses. US citizens and corporations who violate the sanctions face penalties ranging from $250,000 to $500,000. “We are looking to expand the category of Zimbabweans who are covered. We are also looking at sanctions on government entities as well, not just individuals.” She added that the US Treasury Department was looking into ways to target sectors of Zimbabwe’s critical mining industry. [5]

On July 25, 2008 Bush announced that sanctions on Zimbabwe would be stepped up. He outlawed US financial transactions with a number of key Zimbabwe companies and froze their US assets. The enterprises included: the Zimbabwe Mining Development Corporation (which controls all mineral exports); the Zimbabwe Iron and Steel Company; Minerals Marketing Corporation of Zimbabwe; Osleg, or Operation Sovereign Legitimacy, the commercial arm of Zimbabwe’s army; Industrial Development Corporation; the Infrastructure Development Bank of Zimbabwe; ZB Financial Holdings; and the Agriculture Development Bank of Zimbabwe. [6]

In early March 2009, Obama extended sanctions for another year, announcing that,

“The crisis constituted by the actions and policies of certain members of the government of Zimbabwe and other persons to undermine Zimbabwe’s democratic processes or institutions has not been resolved. These actions and policies pose a continuing unusual and extraordinary threat to the foreign policy of the United States.” [7]
It would be more accurate to say that US sanctions pose a continuing unusual and extraordinary threat to the economy of Zimbabwe.

TUDOR we live in the technological age my brother one cannot claim ignorance anymore in this day and age all it needs is for one to use their common sense and see what the truth is!

TUDOR if you want peace one has to be always prepared for war!

We have seen what your paymasters have done throughout history and indeed one only has to look at IRAQ and AFGANISTAN today to see what they are capable off!

Those weapons from China arrived safe and sound thank you and will be used accordingly against any aggressors against our nation.

Mugabe is right these people are IDIOTS indeed!

The only prescriptions they have for Africa and africans are those that keep us dependent on them.

Nothing they do is ever done for our benefit even though they pretend to be paragons of VIRTUE!

Their way of life is based on EXPLOITATION of weaker nations for their benefits.

The only way they can maintain their way of life is by keeping us subjugated through puppets or never ending proxy wars. (Ask yourself Tudor where these uneducated poor illiterate rebels get their state of the art weapons from?)

If we are weak and confused as a people who will stop them despoiling what is rightfully ours for free??

This is a snap shot of ZDERA just for you TUDOR as described by a Canadian STEPHEN GOWANS. Google www.gowans. for more non MUGABE propaganda.

ZDERA is not a regime of targeted sanctions against individuals, as many believe. Sanctions against individuals do exist, but ZDERA is something altogether different. ZDERA has two aspects. First, it authorizes the US president to “support an independent and free press and electronic media in Zimbabwe” and “provide for democracy and governance programs in Zimbabwe.” This is code for doing openly what the CIA used to do covertly: destabilize foreign governments. Second, it instructs the United States executive director to each international financial institution (the World Bank and IMF, for example) to oppose and vote against:

(1) any extension by the respective institution of any loan, credit, or guarantee to the government of Zimbabwe; or

(2) any cancellation or reduction of indebtedness owed by the government of Zimbabwe to the United States or any international financial institution.

Since ZDERA was passed in 2001, Washington has blocked all lines of credit, development assistance and balance of payment support from international lending institutions to Zimbabwe.

When the act was passed, then US president George W. Bush declared his hope that “the provisions of this important legislation will support the people of Zimbabwe in their struggle to effect peaceful democratic change, achieve economic growth, and restore the rule of law.” [2]

Since effecting peaceful democratic change meant ousting the Zanu-PF government and restoring the rule of law meant forbidding the uncompensated expropriation of white farm land, what Bush was really saying was that he hoped the legislation would help overthrow the government and put an end to fast-track land reform.

ZDERA was co-drafted by one of the opposition MDC’s white parliamentarians, and introduced as a bill in the US Congress in March of 2001 by the Republican senator, William Frist. The legislation was co-sponsored by the Republican rightwing senator, Jesse Helms, and the Democratic senators Hilary Clinton (now Secretary of State), Joseph Biden (now Vice-President) and Russell Feingold.

The MDC were very much complicit in all this but now they r crying foul coz their masters refuse to lift the sanctions lol!!

The MDC had always been reluctant to admit that sanctions had crippled Zimbabwe’s economy, and more reluctant still to call for their removal. This is to be expected. In opposition, the MDC’s goal was to blame the government for the country’s economic difficulties. If it could do so convincingly, and at the same time persuade voters it could do a better job, it chances of prevailing at the polls would increase accordingly. Likewise, if it refused to add to the pressure on Western governments to lift sanctions, and even encouraged Western governments to maintain or escalate them, the government would remain burdened with the political liability of an ailing economy. But times have changed. The MDC has formed a coalition government with Zanu-PF, and the MDC controls the finance ministry. Sanctions are no longer in the party’s interest, and the MDC has, as a consequence, changed its tune. Not only does it now acknowledge ZDERA, the finance minister, Tendai Biti, complains about it bitterly.

“The World Bank has right now billions and billions of dollars that we have access to but we can’t access those dollars unless we have dealt with and normalized our relations with the IMF. We cannot normalize our relations with the IMF because of the voting power, it’s a blocking voting power of America and people who represent America on that board cannot vote differently because of ZDERA.” [4]

As bad as ZDERA is, it’s not the only sanctions regime the United States has used to sabotage Zimbabwe’s economy. Addressing the Senate Foreign Relations African Affairs Subcommittee, Jendaya Frazer, who was George W. Bush’s top diplomat in Africa, noted that the United States had imposed financial and travel restrictions on 135 individuals and 30 businesses. US citizens and corporations who violate the sanctions face penalties ranging from $250,000 to $500,000. “We are looking to expand the category of Zimbabweans who are covered. We are also looking at sanctions on government entities as well, not just individuals.” She added that the US Treasury Department was looking into ways to target sectors of Zimbabwe’s critical mining industry. [5]

On July 25, 2008 Bush announced that sanctions on Zimbabwe would be stepped up. He outlawed US financial transactions with a number of key Zimbabwe companies and froze their US assets. The enterprises included: the Zimbabwe Mining Development Corporation (which controls all mineral exports); the Zimbabwe Iron and Steel Company; Minerals Marketing Corporation of Zimbabwe; Osleg, or Operation Sovereign Legitimacy, the commercial arm of Zimbabwe’s army; Industrial Development Corporation; the Infrastructure Development Bank of Zimbabwe; ZB Financial Holdings; and the Agriculture Development Bank of Zimbabwe. [6]

In early March 2009, Obama extended sanctions for another year, announcing that,

“The crisis constituted by the actions and policies of certain members of the government of Zimbabwe and other persons to undermine Zimbabwe’s democratic processes or institutions has not been resolved. These actions and policies pose a continuing unusual and extraordinary threat to the foreign policy of the United States.” [7]
It would be more accurate to say that US sanctions pose a continuing unusual and extraordinary threat to the economy of Zimbabwe.

TUDOR we live in the technological age my brother one cannot claim ignorance anymore in this day and age all it needs is for one to use their common sense and see what the truth is!

Try and divide your mugabe propaganda into several posts. A very long post gets attacked by the spam bot and i'll get banned automatically by replying to it.

stop deleting this my post pliz.

Mugabe is right these people are IDIOTS indeed!

The only prescriptions they have for Africa and africans are those that keep us dependent on them.

Nothing they do is ever done for our benefit even though they pretend to be paragons of VIRTUE!

Their way of life is based on EXPLOITATION of weaker nations for their benefits.

The only way they can maintain their way of life is by keeping us subjugated through puppets or never ending proxy wars. (Ask yourself Tudor where these uneducated poor illiterate rebels get their state of the art weapons from?)

If we are weak and confused as a people who will stop them despoiling what is rightfully ours for free??

This is a snap shot of ZDERA just for you TUDOR as described by a Canadian STEPHEN GOWANS. Google www.gowans. for more non MUGABE propaganda.

ZDERA is not a regime of targeted sanctions against individuals, as many believe. Sanctions against individuals do exist, but ZDERA is something altogether different. ZDERA has two aspects. First, it authorizes the US president to “support an independent and free press and electronic media in Zimbabwe” and “provide for democracy and governance programs in Zimbabwe.” This is code for doing openly what the CIA used to do covertly: destabilize foreign governments. Second, it instructs the United States executive director to each international financial institution (the World Bank and IMF, for example) to oppose and vote against:

(1) any extension by the respective institution of any loan, credit, or guarantee to the government of Zimbabwe; or

(2) any cancellation or reduction of indebtedness owed by the government of Zimbabwe to the United States or any international financial institution.

Since ZDERA was passed in 2001, Washington has blocked all lines of credit, development assistance and balance of payment support from international lending institutions to Zimbabwe.

When the act was passed, then US president George W. Bush declared his hope that “the provisions of this important legislation will support the people of Zimbabwe in their struggle to effect peaceful democratic change, achieve economic growth, and restore the rule of law.” [2]

Since effecting peaceful democratic change meant ousting the Zanu-PF government and restoring the rule of law meant forbidding the uncompensated expropriation of white farm land, what Bush was really saying was that he hoped the legislation would help overthrow the government and put an end to fast-track land reform.

ZDERA was co-drafted by one of the opposition MDC’s white parliamentarians, and introduced as a bill in the US Congress in March of 2001 by the Republican senator, William Frist. The legislation was co-sponsored by the Republican rightwing senator, Jesse Helms, and the Democratic senators Hilary Clinton (now Secretary of State), Joseph Biden (now Vice-President) and Russell Feingold.

The MDC were very much complicit in all this but now they r crying foul coz their masters refuse to lift the sanctions lol!!

The MDC had always been reluctant to admit that sanctions had crippled Zimbabwe’s economy, and more reluctant still to call for their removal. This is to be expected. In opposition, the MDC’s goal was to blame the government for the country’s economic difficulties. If it could do so convincingly, and at the same time persuade voters it could do a better job, it chances of prevailing at the polls would increase accordingly. Likewise, if it refused to add to the pressure on Western governments to lift sanctions, and even encouraged Western governments to maintain or escalate them, the government would remain burdened with the political liability of an ailing economy. But times have changed. The MDC has formed a coalition government with Zanu-PF, and the MDC controls the finance ministry. Sanctions are no longer in the party’s interest, and the MDC has, as a consequence, changed its tune. Not only does it now acknowledge ZDERA, the finance minister, Tendai Biti, complains about it bitterly.

“The World Bank has right now billions and billions of dollars that we have access to but we can’t access those dollars unless we have dealt with and normalized our relations with the IMF. We cannot normalize our relations with the IMF because of the voting power, it’s a blocking voting power of America and people who represent America on that board cannot vote differently because of ZDERA.” [4]

As bad as ZDERA is, it’s not the only sanctions regime the United States has used to sabotage Zimbabwe’s economy. Addressing the Senate Foreign Relations African Affairs Subcommittee, Jendaya Frazer, who was George W. Bush’s top diplomat in Africa, noted that the United States had imposed financial and travel restrictions on 135 individuals and 30 businesses. US citizens and corporations who violate the sanctions face penalties ranging from $250,000 to $500,000. “We are looking to expand the category of Zimbabweans who are covered. We are also looking at sanctions on government entities as well, not just individuals.” She added that the US Treasury Department was looking into ways to target sectors of Zimbabwe’s critical mining industry. [5]

On July 25, 2008 Bush announced that sanctions on Zimbabwe would be stepped up. He outlawed US financial transactions with a number of key Zimbabwe companies and froze their US assets. The enterprises included: the Zimbabwe Mining Development Corporation (which controls all mineral exports); the Zimbabwe Iron and Steel Company; Minerals Marketing Corporation of Zimbabwe; Osleg, or Operation Sovereign Legitimacy, the commercial arm of Zimbabwe’s army; Industrial Development Corporation; the Infrastructure Development Bank of Zimbabwe; ZB Financial Holdings; and the Agriculture Development Bank of Zimbabwe. [6]

In early March 2009, Obama extended sanctions for another year, announcing that,

“The crisis constituted by the actions and policies of certain members of the government of Zimbabwe and other persons to undermine Zimbabwe’s democratic processes or institutions has not been resolved. These actions and policies pose a continuing unusual and extraordinary threat to the foreign policy of the United States.” [7]
It would be more accurate to say that US sanctions pose a continuing unusual and extraordinary threat to the economy of Zimbabwe.

TUDOR we live in the technological age my brother one cannot claim ignorance anymore in this day and age all it needs is for one to use their common sense and see what the truth is!

Sometimes it makes perfect sense for us to begin to ask the WHY and not WHAT.

Zimbabweans are hungry - fact

Zimbabwe's economy is in shambles - fact

However, the most important part of the equation is WHY is Zimbabwe suffering right now.

The WHY is far more important than the WHAT we see because any other African nation can suffer the same fate unless of course there are no natural resources those who are usually guilty of such in those countries.

Can we ask the WHY for just a split second?

Lwandle:

TUDOR if you want peace one has to be always prepared for war!

We have seen what your paymasters have done throughout history and indeed one only has to look at IRAQ and AFGANISTAN today to see what they are capable off!

Is this an excuse for mugabe to starve his nation and blow money on expensive birthday parties?? How pathetic!

Those weapons from China arrived safe and sound thank you and will be used accordingly against any aggressors against our nation.

Thank god the weapons arrived, now mugabe can go about killing and oppressing his people, like the old foolish tyrant he is.

If you think we believe you're a Zimbabwean then you're a joker!
You're definately Afam or beaf masquerading as a Zimbabwean. Ha ha ha
is this the pathetic point it has come to?? Soon later you'll be impersonating Mugabe on Nairaland. Ha! ha!

Tudór:

If you think we believe you're a Zimbabwean then you're a joker!
You're definately Afam or beaf masquerading as a Zimbabwean. Ha ha ha
is this the pathetic point it has come to?? Soon later you'll be impersonating Mugabe on Nairaland. Ha! ha!

This is how wrong you have always been on issues you dabble into. Is there any reason under the sun for me to use more than one username on any forum for that matter when I have always defended my position and responded to posts in kind whether good or bad?

I only hope you learn to stop being wrong because almost every single thread you contribute to it is the same thing - lies, insults, wrong conclusions and comments based on complete ignorance.

Tudór:

On the contrary, i'm well acquainted with the realities on ground. Zimbabweans are starving, their health care is dead, no education, the police and zanu-pf members constantly harass and kill them, human rights abuses by the govt, mugabe imprisons opposition members, imports billions in weapons yet claim there's no money, Mugabe throws flamboyant birthday bashes while hunger and cholera ravage the population.

Will you shut up for the sake of honesty, and stop saying things you know nothing about.

"I am well acquainted with realities on the ground", always using words that are well above him. As if he has at one time or the other spent 5 years in Zimbabwe to understand them enough.

If anyone cares let him read the story below:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/6728015.stm

get the book Power and Plunder written by Martin Meredith.

A thoughtful mind would understand Zimbabwe and Mugabe better rather than just listening to CNN and  saying

"I am well acquainted with realities on the ground"

Later he would tell us he was there when Hitler commited Sucide.

The only problem I have always had with Mugabe is that he has stayed in power too long, and when that happens no matter who you are you loose focus.

For all those claiming Mugabe propaganda, first off stop watching so much Faux (Fox) news. Some people here have been licking the white man's anus so long that they can't think properly.

Mugabe propaganda my arse. As if the Mugabe can spread propaganda or have as much influence as the White West leaders. Fools watch the comedy show Faux news and start parading up and down trumpeting "Propaganda" as if it is the big word they learned for the day. Instead of worrying about "Mugabe propaganda" wipe the brown (ish) of your nose and start worrying about the Western propaganda that is so immaculate at dividing and conquering and spreading confusion.

Fools Die!!!

yeah the white man's propaganda is what caused the cholera outbreak in zimbabwe

Well, I guess it is much easier to believe the propaganda than for some of us to use our brains to think especially when the propaganda is coming from the white man as many of us suffer from gross inferiority complex even though we would not want to admit that much.

bawomolo:

yeah the white man's propaganda is what caused the cholera outbreak in zimbabwe

ha ha ha
I'ts the western propaganda that's starving zimbabweans too!
What jokers!

bawomolo:

yeah the white man's propaganda is what caused the cholera outbreak in zimbabwe

I guess if Faux News doesn't tell you, you won't believe it.

savanaha:

I guess if Faux News doesn't tell you, you won't believe it.

fox local news (not the cable rubbish) is pretty reliable. Most people don't depend on cable news in era of internet media.

Human rights watch and Amnesty International have extensive reports on the calamity that is called Zimbabwe.

Cuba and Iran have gone through sanctions for DECADES and their situation is much more better than zimbabwe.

@Topic

This thread should have read: Mugabe calls himself an idiot. And he is. Anyone's got a problem with that?

Mugabe is right these people are IDIOTS indeed!

The only prescriptions they have for Africa and africans are those that keep us dependent on them.

Nothing they do is ever done for our benefit even though they pretend to be paragons of VIRTUE!

Their way of life is based on EXPLOITATION of weaker nations for their benefits.

The only way they can maintain their way of life is by keeping us subjugated through puppets or never ending proxy wars. (Ask yourself Tudor where these uneducated poor illiterate rebels get their state of the art weapons from?)

If we are weak and confused as a people who will stop them despoiling what is rightfully ours for free??

This is a snap shot of ZDERA just for you TUDOR as described by a Canadian STEPHEN GOWANS. Google www.gowans. for more non MUGABE propaganda.

ZDERA is not a regime of targeted sanctions against individuals, as many believe. Sanctions against individuals do exist, but ZDERA is something altogether different. ZDERA has two aspects. First, it authorizes the US president to “support an independent and free press and electronic media in Zimbabwe” and “provide for democracy and governance programs in Zimbabwe.” This is code for doing openly what the CIA used to do covertly: destabilize foreign governments. Second, it instructs the United States executive director to each international financial institution (the World Bank and IMF, for example) to oppose and vote against:

(1) any extension by the respective institution of any loan, credit, or guarantee to the government of Zimbabwe; or

(2) any cancellation or reduction of indebtedness owed by the government of Zimbabwe to the United States or any international financial institution.

Since ZDERA was passed in 2001, Washington has blocked all lines of credit, development assistance and balance of payment support from international lending institutions to Zimbabwe.

When the act was passed, then US president George W. Bush declared his hope that “the provisions of this important legislation will support the people of Zimbabwe in their struggle to effect peaceful democratic change, achieve economic growth, and restore the rule of law.” [2]

Since effecting peaceful democratic change meant ousting the Zanu-PF government and restoring the rule of law meant forbidding the uncompensated expropriation of white farm land, what Bush was really saying was that he hoped the legislation would help overthrow the government and put an end to fast-track land reform.

ZDERA was co-drafted by one of the opposition MDC’s white parliamentarians, and introduced as a bill in the US Congress in March of 2001 by the Republican senator, William Frist. The legislation was co-sponsored by the Republican rightwing senator, Jesse Helms, and the Democratic senators Hilary Clinton (now Secretary of State), Joseph Biden (now Vice-President) and Russell Feingold.

Mugabe is right these people are IDIOTS indeed!

The only prescriptions they have for Africa and africans are those that keep us dependent on them.

Nothing they do is ever done for our benefit even though they pretend to be paragons of VIRTUE!

Their way of life is based on EXPLOITATION of weaker nations for their benefits.

The only way they can maintain their way of life is by keeping us subjugated through puppets or never ending proxy wars. (Ask yourself Tudor where these uneducated poor illiterate rebels get their state of the art weapons from?)

If we are weak and confused as a people who will stop them despoiling what is rightfully ours for free??

This is a snap shot of ZDERA just for you TUDOR as described by a Canadian STEPHEN GOWANS.

As Mugabe said of Obasanjo I cannot condemn my own brother!

Our resources will be under our total control whatever your beloved western media says or claims!

Afam:

Sometimes it makes perfect sense for us to begin to ask the WHY and not WHAT.

Zimbabweans are hungry - fact

Zimbabwe's economy is in shambles - fact

However, the most important part of the equation is WHY is Zimbabwe suffering right now.

The WHY is far more important than the WHAT we see because any other African nation can suffer the same fate unless of course there are no natural resources those who are usually guilty of such in those countries.

Can we ask the WHY for just a split second?

Why, when other African Countries were getting their loans written of, was Mugabe forced to repay Zimbabwe's loan within a month and this demand was made at the height of the famine, etcetera? Does this show the action of a caring West?

Busy_body:



Why, when other African Countries were getting their loans written of, was Mugabe forced to repay Zimbabwe's loan within a month and this demand was made at the height of the famine, etcetera? Does this show the action of a caring West?

why borrow an amount you can't pay?

Busy_body:



Why, when other African Countries were getting their loans written of, was Mugabe forced to repay Zimbabwe's loan within a month and this demand was made at the height of the famine, etcetera? Does this show the action of a caring West?

You're owing somebody while you're busy importing billions of dollars in weapons, celebrating expensive birthday parties, badmouthing your creditors it makes perfect business sense for the creditor to get his money.
Emm why did mugabe borrow in the first place. . .i thought the old fool hated the west.