mentorandfriend:


Can you please enlighten me on the bolded? Is Olumba Olumba Obu God?

daretodiffer:


Have you tried bombing him, shooting him and stabbing him?

Tell that liar that if indeed he is God, he should willing subject himself for my experiment.

mentorandfriend:


Can you please enlighten me on the bolded? Is Olumba Olumba Obu God?

kennyslim1:


Reply Mr DeCleff

DeCleff:


I havent but ask IBB and Nigerian troops who invaded Calabar during the civil war cos they can tell u more

DeCleff:


There are certain Old Testment prophecies which has just been fulfilled. Daniel 2:44 prophecied that God Almighty will come down on earth to establish His kingdom. In Daniel 7, He predicted that the Ancient of Days came down on earth while the earthly govts were still in place and many worshipped Him. If u read further, u will see where he talked about the Son of Man been led to the Ancient of Days to be glorified by Him. He was glorified by the Ancient of Days and made to rule all nations.

In John 17:4-5 Our Lord Jesus Christ prayed and asked His Father to glorify Him(Son) with the same glory which He(Son) had with the Father before the world was created.

Now, from His request it was clear that Our Lord Jesus Christ was already glorified in heaven. It means He will not be glorified in heaven this time but on earth because He has first glorified the Father on earth.

So when He said the Comforter was coming He was actually anouncing the coming of the Ancient of Days as predicted by Daniel 7. The Comforter/Holy Spirit came in human form to establish His kingdom where His will crown His Son to reign in fulfillment of Daniel's prophecies.

Now the Supreme Father Leader Olumba Olumba Obu who is the Ancient of Days came down 1917 and has establiished His kingdom which is called Brotherhood of the Cross And Star and has glorified His Son His Holiness Olumba Olumba Obu to reign and execute judgement on earth.

1 Corinhians 15:24-28

24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.

26 The last enemy that shall be
destroyed is death.

27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith, all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is
excepted, which did put all
things under him.

28 And when all things shall be
subdued unto him, then shall
the Son also himself be
subject unto him that put all
things under him, that God
may be all in all.

After the reign of His Holiness Olumba Olumba Obu He will hand over rulership back to Leader Olumba Olumba Obu just as the above scripture said.

Remain blessed

Lanceslot:
Even you? I'm highly disappointed.

SilvanusII:



WAIT!!!! Prophecies foretold his 'birth' yet, he came down from heaven alongside 8 siblings? How biko? Abi I'm d one reading it all wrong. Your leader was 'born', but his children dropped from heaven Even Greek, Jewish and Christian theology have it THE OTHER WAY ROUND.
I also do know that Revelations did not indicate ANY familial relationships btwn the Dragon and d child. So, if the SISTER is 'likened' to d dragon, the BROTHER is like what? Half-dragon? Full-dragon? Abi while they dropped from heaven, their constitution changed?



I hope that Uncle's wings are not for show o. He looks pretty grounded to me.

Bruno3000:
U got me laffin hard...

donigspain:
I kinda admire DeCleff's opinionated calm disposition in the face of aggression.

DeCleff:


I can't help but laugh at ur ignorance. So, becos u no longer see the Supreme Father again that automatically means He's dead?

Can the Ancient of Days die? He was already in existence before He was born. Verifiable miracles are there to prove what happened before He was born.


When Our Lord Jesus Christ came was He a tree or stone?

Did He use toilet?

Did He eat?

Did He cry?

DeCleff:


Children of Leader Olumba Olumba Obu are not ordinary human being they all came down from heaven.

All the prophecies that foretold the birth of Leader Olumba Olumba Obu made it clear that He didn't come alone. Especially the prophecies by Prophet Enun Nkpa.

U might wish to know that all the nine children were born without sexual intercourse.

The elder sister is likened to the dragon in Rev. 12:1-5 whose sole aim was destroy the male child. She was born first before His Holiness Olumba Olumba Obu and if read further in Rev. 12 u will see that the male children was separated from His mother and siblings but caught up to God.

The Father sent Him out to stay with someone till He was old enough to take up responsibility.

So, Helen Obu is not what u think she is. Don't forget that satan is still the son of God but was cast down because he was desperate for power

Nickymezor:
Hw is Olumba God

freecocoa:
Why are you disappointed?(not that anyone cares though)

Don't other churches and religions have their nonsense on the homepage too? What is the difference abi shey because these set have the boldness to claim they fell from heaven? Abegi, all of them na the same thing.

gcode123:
[size=13pt]Christians are funny. Can you see not a single one of you have been able to SENSIBLY counter this mans beliefs, yet you claim he should accept your own way, yet you cant even make any sense of yours...... I searched all these pages to see if we would truly have one christian who can actually represent Christ with profound knowledge and i fined NONE! Shame!

[b] Goes to prove how blinding religion is cos NO one can adequately disprove the other [b/] , it all leads to a justified stalemate since everyone has faith

If i bring the krishna worshippers here also, the result is the same, not victor no vanquished, no one can prove his god is realer than the other except to himself.


Now you see why people are athiest[/size]

ZUBY77:
I already have Temple Run installed in my android phone.
Olumba will have to focus on those who use Nokia torch.

temiyato:

I was born into brotherhood of the cross and star.am over 35yrs nw.my parents are still core members BT I pray for them every time.I will ask u just one simple question.when did u start the church?did u ever by any chance meet olumba olumba himself?
I pray that God will open ur eyes .the bible says ,there is no other God aside Jehovah.olumba called himself God before he died.back then,Roland was called the king of kings and lord of lords.while the daughter was called the holy queen mother.
Olumba is dead,Roland is ur new God.
Open ur eyes my friend.I will pray for you just the same way I still pray for my parents.

DeCleff:


Children of Leader Olumba Olumba Obu are not ordinary human being they all came down from heaven.

All the prophecies that foretold the birth of Leader Olumba Olumba Obu made it clear that He didn't come alone. Especially the prophecies by Prophet Enun Nkpa.

U might wish to know that all the nine children were born without sexual intercourse.

The elder sister is likened to the dragon in Rev. 12:1-5 whose sole aim was destroy the male child. She was born first before His Holiness Olumba Olumba Obu and if read further in Rev. 12 u will see that the male children was separated from His mother and siblings but caught up to God.

The Father sent Him out to stay with someone till He was old enough to take up responsibility.

So, Helen Obu is not what u think she is. Don't forget that satan is still the son of God but was cast down because he was desperate for power

DeCleff:


There are certain Old Testment prophecies which has just been fulfilled. Daniel 2:44 prophecied that God Almighty will come down on earth to establish His kingdom. In Daniel 7, He predicted that the Ancient of Days came down on earth while the earthly govts were still in place and many worshipped Him. If u read further, u will see where he talked about the Son of Man been led to the Ancient of Days to be glorified by Him. He was glorified by the Ancient of Days and made to rule all nations.

In John 17:4-5 Our Lord Jesus Christ prayed and asked His Father to glorify Him(Son) with the same glory which He(Son) had with the Father before the world was created.

Now, from His request it was clear that Our Lord Jesus Christ was already glorified in heaven. It means He will not be glorified in heaven this time but on earth because He has first glorified the Father on earth.

So when He said the Comforter was coming He was actually anouncing the coming of the Ancient of Days as predicted by Daniel 7. The Comforter/Holy Spirit came in human form to establish His kingdom where His will crown His Son to reign in fulfillment of Daniel's prophecies.

Now the Supreme Father Leader Olumba Olumba Obu who is the Ancient of Days came down 1917 and has establiished His kingdom which is called Brotherhood of the Cross And Star and has glorified His Son His Holiness Olumba Olumba Obu to reign and execute judgement on earth.

1 Corinhians 15:24-28

24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.

26 The last enemy that shall be
destroyed is death.

27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith, all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is
excepted, which did put all
things under him.

28 And when all things shall be
subdued unto him, then shall
the Son also himself be
subject unto him that put all
things under him, that God
may be all in all.

After the reign of His Holiness Olumba Olumba Obu He will hand over rulership back to Leader Olumba Olumba Obu just as the above scripture said.

Remain blessed

yanabasee:


Oga, I grew up in calabar and I cal tell you the history of this your olumba and how he came up with the name OBU.... Obu means crayfish, the same reason Olumba himself doesn't eat crayfish.

At the Esuk popularly known as the beach in calabar language... Olumba was found _naked one early morning in his youthful age and he then started preaching and people were staring at him and wondering, while some where scared of him and so on... Nobody knew where he came from or how he was found on the beach... It was later, discovered that he's been missing for a decade..

Later, we heard how his mum narrated stories of how olumba in his childhood days cured diseases and heal sicknesses...by merely touching people...

All these weren't motivating.. The man's a complete juju man.... (Not judging, just a statement per se)

You that have prayed to God and he's opened your eyes for you to know who Olumba is... Why don't you his members come out publicly to tell the rest of the world who olumba is? Must everybdy wear white garment and come to ur temple before knowing the olumba?

And olumba isn't a supreme father.. God is...

There were this family who lived next flat to ours... They were members of the olumba church.. They used to say olumba was the second coming of christ.. How silly?

I don't just like olumba members... They're always scary... I've been to Ambo where your headquarters is located and I've seen many cripples and derange creatures loitering the street.. And they said supreme father's yet to deliver them..or cure them...but keeps building temples....

You're brainwashed and you should take your time and read the Bible very well..... You'll get your answers and olumba's a common man like you with evil powers....

Just when his father died...and the two surviving heirs to the throne knuckled their heads on who to become the next LEADER.. Then, I knew that.. The church's based on earthly things and christ preached against one's love for earthly things.....

And...one of the compounds we used to live.. There was this man who had nothing and the children used to hawk... Within two years..this man began to perform miracles and claim the compound and drove the landlord away... They olumbas are wicked... They can't help you without asking you to become their member.. To start wearing white garment and with no shoes on.

daretodiffer:

You need help

DeCleff:


Our Lord Jesus Christ was born of Mary but hear Him

John 6:38
For I came down from
heaven, not to do mine own
will, but the will of him that
sent me.

John 3:13
No one has ascended into heaven, but He who descended from heaven:


Hope the above verses answers ur questions?

DeCleff:


How did u know that Olumba Olumba Obu is not God? Was it revealed to u or are u saying it due to what people who knew nothingg abt Him are saying? Be honest in ur answers!

Leader Olumba Olumba Obu said and i quote 'I will not tell u who I Am but if u truly want to know who I Am, pray and ask God to reveal me to u because u cant know me or Brotherhood Of The Cross And Star with ur physical eyes. The more u look the less u see.


John 4:22
Ye worship ye know not" pray and ask God" ...how can God ask u to pray n ask God who he is? I pray God delivers u someday like he delivered our dear Lady Apostle Helen Ukpabio......
what: we know what we
worship: for salvation is of
the Jews.

2 Corinthians 5:16
Wherefore henceforth know
we no man after the flesh:
yea, though we have known
Christ after the flesh, yet now
henceforth know we him no
more.

I will advise u to pray and ask God to reveal Himself and expose Olumba Olumba Obu to u so u can tell the world the truth. God assured us of His willingness to answer us and show us what we don't know.

Jeremiah 33:3
it, to establish it; the
Call unto me, and I will answer thee, and shew thee great and
mighty things, which thou
knowest not.

Isaacmacdon:
... Its obvious u r one of those.. U r making a generalisation.. Which is totally out of it.. Well I resign you to your fate..

DeCleff:


Does it matter when i started? This was the same logic the Pharisees, Scribes and Elders used against Christ.

My dear u can be there for 100 years and even ate feast blessed by the Father yet u dont know Him.

I've met people who were born into BCS but i am the one teaching them what they don't know about the Father.

My wisdom and knowledge of the Father is revelation knowledge by the Holy Spirit and not by how long i have been there