BascoVanVeli:


My people see me o! I was out with some friends and next thing my guy who is a man u fan starts shouting to the sky how Rashford is better than Iheanacho. He even said Rashford would have scored a hattrick against Tanzania. So i'm looking for Joe's plank and let me say this "Man U fans, respect yourselfs". Support ur team but leave our boy out of ur wahala.

Mickael2:


ehm, point of information. Alaba was always a midfielder before he switched back to left back, he played as a midfielder for his local club, I have lost the name now.

Lahm, well yes we can give him credit for that, but he is not the first person to do that is he? Mou changed Mikel to a DMF,Ferguson changed Smalling from a fullback to a CB, and so many others, its not a huge achievement

Mickael2:



you know some people are deluded so no need arguing that. Rashford can't hold a candle to Iheanacho's talents, if Nacho had been an English man, he would be the top striker at City now because that boy is better than Aguero, he is so dynamic that you can switch formations with him without even changing any player. And the worst part is that Nigerians themselves do not even want to believe the truth, they move along with the hype

Mickael2:


ehm, point of information. Alaba was always a midfielder before he switched back to left back, he played as a midfielder for his local club, I have lost the name now.

Lahm, well yes we can give him credit for that, but he is not the first person to do that is he? Mou changed Mikel to a DMF,Ferguson changed Smalling from a fullback to a CB, and so many others, its not a huge achievement

Mickael2:


ehm, point of information. Alaba was always a midfielder before he switched back to left back, he played as a midfielder for his local club, I have lost the name now.

Lahm, well yes we can give him credit for that, but he is not the first person to do that is he? Mou changed Mikel to a DMF,Ferguson changed Smalling from a fullback to a CB, and so many others, its not a huge achievement

BascoVanVeli:


My people see me o! I was out with some friends and next thing my guy who is a man u fan starts shouting to the sky how Rashford is better than Iheanacho. He even said Rashford would have scored a hattrick against Tanzania. So i'm looking for Joe's plank and let me say this "Man U fans, respect yourselfs". Support ur team but leave our boy out of ur wahala.

Mickael2:



you know some people are deluded so no need arguing that. Rashford can't hold a candle to Iheanacho's talents, if Nacho had been an English man, he would be the top striker at City now because that boy is better than Aguero, he is so dynamic that you can switch formations with him without even changing any player. And the worst part is that Nigerians themselves do not even want to believe the truth, they move along with the hype

safarigirl:
lol, if you visit Twitter, you go plank people tire


Rashford plays for England U21 and scored against Norway yesterday, only for them to start again. One said "Rashford scored against Norway while Iheanacho scored against hungry African players".....please, how Norway better pass Tanzania in football?

Okay, Iheanacho was asked in an interview that how does it feel to be the best U21 footballer in the world, he now replied " I don't know, you'll have to ask Rashford"

Man U fans were ejacu-lating ontop that one, my boy dey use sense for them....play off your impact, take attention away from yourself and do big things in a low key way. I don't know if they expected him to say "it feels great".. So that haters will tag my brother "Balotelli part 2"

Let the attention stay on Rashford, let it be a source of distraction to that one, shey Martial time don finish, now na Rashford...meanwhile Kelechi go still dey collect salary, dey play ball



Cc thegoodjoe, icon4s, joseph1013, lakesidepapa

safarigirl:
lol, if you visit Twitter, you go plank people tire


Rashford plays for England U21 and scored against Norway yesterday, only for them to start again. One said "Rashford scored against Norway while Iheanacho scored against hungry African players".....please, how Norway better pass Tanzania in football?

Okay, Iheanacho was asked in an interview that how does it feel to be the best U21 footballer in the world, he now replied " I don't know, you'll have to ask Rashford"

Man U fans were ejacu-lating ontop that one, my boy dey use sense for them....play off your impact, take attention away from yourself and do big things in a low key way. I don't know if they expected him to say "it feels great".. So that haters will tag my brother "Balotelli part 2"

Let the attention stay on Rashford, let it be a source of distraction to that one, shey Martial time don finish, now na Rashford...meanwhile Kelechi go still dey collect salary, dey play ball



Cc thegoodjoe, icon4s, joseph1013, lakesidepapa

goldfish80:


Dropping players is not the issue here bit the manner he does that.
You don't avoid talking to someone for a whole year because you want to drop him. [/b]Like in Eto's case he talked to him 3 times throughout the season. In one of those three times, he wanted to tell Eto how to move, he rightly told him to fvck off![b]
Manzukich was the top scorer and champions league winner before he joined, he abruptly stopped talking to him and went out of his way to ensure he does not end the season as the top scorer. You can't be a good manager of men and avoid talking to your wards for whatever reason.

I used to see you as an intelligent guy but am very surprised you're still running with this your line of argument all week. Very shocking.

TheGoodJoe:


[size=14pt]Manchester City’s Kelechi Iheanacho reveals he’s learning from Manchester United’s Marcus Rashford[/size]

‘You can learn from every player so I’ve learnt from Rashford as well this season and I wish him all the best in his career’.


http://metro.co.uk/2016/05/12/manchester-citys-kelechi-iheanacho-reveals-hes-learning-from-manchester-uniteds-marcus-rashford-5876693/

I agree with you 100%. Iheanacho is being smart and deflecting the pressure off him.

Let the Manchester United fans and the media celebrate their Rashford.

Iheanacho already knows what to do. Keep working hard to gain his manager's trust.

TheGoodJoe:


David Alaba (Austria)

Converted from a midfielder to a left-back by Louis Van Gaal, David Alaba has become one of the best players in the Bundesliga under Pep Guardiola's management and will be one of the stars of Euro 2016. For Austria he plays in midfield, or sometimes defence, sporadically out on the wing but mostly in the middle and rarely, but occasionally, even upfront. To say Alaba is versatile is an understatement but he's genuinely brilliant wherever he plays.

"He's just incredible. He's just... wow," says Guardiola.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/06/08/euro-2016-ranking-the-20-best-players/david-alaba-playing-for-austria/

This highlights why I think Pep Guardiola is not a bad man manager. His ideas improve players.

Coming into Bayern and opting for Alaba to influence the midfield and he improved. Same goes to Lahm.

joseph1013 post=
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I love Kelechi as much as anyone here, but it is preposterous to say that at the moment, he is better than Aguero. No way! He is definitely better than Rashford but Aguero, abeg let's wait small.

TheGoodJoe:


Thanks for the addition.

Your post made me read something. He was a midfielder, converted to a left back at Bayern Munich by Louis Van Gaal. (Interesting because Guardiola talked a lot with Van Gaal most when Van Gaal coached Barca)

So with respect to Alaba being able to play as a midfielder, Guardiola takes no credit.

Don't you think Guardiola deserves credit from changing him as a leftback at Bayern back into the midfield role?

Mickael2:



he deserves credit no doubt. But my point is that the natural talent had already been there, Guardiola was not the person who taught him the rubrics of being a midfielder hence he deserves just a little praise.

Anyways, delving into your argument, being a barcelona fan I must admit that Pep is a great coach but a very very poor manager. Bojan deteriorated under him, so did a lot of our other young players, if he does not like you, you are dead, that is not the sign of a good manager. Even after Mou insulted Eto he still played him, that means business first and that's the first thing you have to consider as a coach. I can go on and on higlighting his faults, Zlatan, Eto, Bojan etc etc. And the guy is a bloody racist too, read Messi's documentary, Pep became Barcelona's coach in 2008, that was the year of the olympics, Barca didn't want Messi to go so that he can learn the ways of the new coach but Pep came and told them that he can go, when asked Pep said he would NEVER prevent a player from going to the Olympics. Fast forward, Nacho was in thesame position recently, what did he do? The exact opposite, why? The color of his skin. Yaya was absolutely better than Busq in 2008/2009 but Pep chased him out because of him, Masch was also better than Busquets but he switched him into a CB just so that Busquets would play because Busquets is a spanish player and his dad is a close friend too. So he is a great coach(obviously aided by money and talent) but he is a bad manager

Mickael2:



he deserves credit no doubt. But my point is that the natural talent had already been there, Guardiola was not the person who taught him the rubrics of being a midfielder hence he deserves just a little praise.

Anyways, delving into your argument, being a barcelona fan I must admit that Pep is a great coach but a very very poor manager. Bojan deteriorated under him, so did a lot of our other young players, if he does not like you, you are dead, that is not the sign of a good manager. Even after Mou insulted Eto he still played him, that means business first and that's the first thing you have to consider as a coach. I can go on and on higlighting his faults, Zlatan, Eto, Bojan etc etc. And the guy is a bloody racist too, read Messi's documentary, Pep became Barcelona's coach in 2008, that was the year of the olympics, Barca didn't want Messi to go so that he can learn the ways of the new coach but Pep came and told them that he can go, when asked Pep said he would NEVER prevent a player from going to the Olympics. Fast forward, Nacho was in thesame position recently, what did he do? The exact opposite, why? The color of his skin. Yaya was absolutely better than Busq in 2008/2009 but Pep chased him out because of him, Masch was also better than Busquets but he switched him into a CB just so that Busquets would play because Busquets is a spanish player and his dad is a close friend too. So he is a great coach(obviously aided by money and talent) but he is a bad manager

Mickael2:



he deserves credit no doubt. But my point is that the natural talent had already been there, Guardiola was not the person who taught him the rubrics of being a midfielder hence he deserves just a little praise.

Anyways, delving into your argument, being a barcelona fan I must admit that Pep is a great coach but a very very poor manager. Bojan deteriorated under him, so did a lot of our other young players, if he does not like you, you are dead, that is not the sign of a good manager. Even after Mou insulted Eto he still played him, that means business first and that's the first thing you have to consider as a coach. I can go on and on higlighting his faults, Zlatan, Eto, Bojan etc etc. And the guy is a bloody racist too, read Messi's documentary, Pep became Barcelona's coach in 2008, that was the year of the olympics, Barca didn't want Messi to go so that he can learn the ways of the new coach but Pep came and told them that he can go, when asked Pep said he would NEVER prevent a player from going to the Olympics. Fast forward, Nacho was in thesame position recently, what did he do? The exact opposite, why? The color of his skin. Yaya was absolutely better than Busq in 2008/2009 but Pep chased him out because of him, Masch was also better than Busquets but he switched him into a CB just so that Busquets would play because Busquets is a spanish player and his dad is a close friend too. So he is a great coach(obviously aided by money and talent) but he is a bad manager

Mickael2:



he deserves credit no doubt. But my point is that the natural talent had already been there, Guardiola was not the person who taught him the rubrics of being a midfielder hence he deserves just a little praise.

Anyways, delving into your argument, being a barcelona fan I must admit that Pep is a great coach but a very very poor manager. Bojan deteriorated under him, so did a lot of our other young players, if he does not like you, you are dead, that is not the sign of a good manager. Even after Mou insulted Eto he still played him, that means business first and that's the first thing you have to consider as a coach. I can go on and on higlighting his faults, Zlatan, Eto, Bojan etc etc. And the guy is a bloody racist too, read Messi's documentary, Pep became Barcelona's coach in 2008, that was the year of the olympics, Barca didn't want Messi to go so that he can learn the ways of the new coach but Pep came and told them that he can go, when asked Pep said he would NEVER prevent a player from going to the Olympics. Fast forward, Nacho was in thesame position recently, what did he do? The exact opposite, why? The color of his skin. Yaya was absolutely better than Busq in 2008/2009 but Pep chased him out because of him, Masch was also better than Busquets but he switched him into a CB just so that Busquets would play because Busquets is a spanish player and his dad is a close friend too. So he is a great coach(obviously aided by money and talent) but he is a bad manager

Mickael2:



he deserves credit no doubt. But my point is that the natural talent had already been there, Guardiola was not the person who taught him the rubrics of being a midfielder hence he deserves just a little praise.

Anyways, delving into your argument, being a barcelona fan I must admit that Pep is a great coach but a very very poor manager. Bojan deteriorated under him, so did a lot of our other young players, if he does not like you, you are dead, that is not the sign of a good manager. Even after Mou insulted Eto he still played him, that means business first and that's the first thing you have to consider as a coach. I can go on and on higlighting his faults, Zlatan, Eto, Bojan etc etc. And the guy is a bloody racist too, read Messi's documentary, Pep became Barcelona's coach in 2008, that was the year of the olympics, Barca didn't want Messi to go so that he can learn the ways of the new coach but Pep came and told them that he can go, when asked Pep said he would NEVER prevent a player from going to the Olympics. Fast forward, Nacho was in thesame position recently, what did he do? The exact opposite, why? The color of his skin. Yaya was absolutely better than Busq in 2008/2009 but Pep chased him out because of him, Masch was also better than Busquets but he switched him into a CB just so that Busquets would play because Busquets is a spanish player and his dad is a close friend too. So he is a great coach(obviously aided by money and talent) but he is a bad manager

Mickael2:


that means that Alaba was always a midfielder so Guardiola did nothing special. And lets be honest, if you watched that Euro, you will know that Alaba is easily better at RB

jobsat34:


Whoever is managing this kelechi is doing a great job..
He is keeping attention away from himself, knowing the english monster cum media could bring him down with there super propagander program..
I m expecting to see, anytime soon, the assumed market value of €100m quoted for rashford. Yeye pple

Mickael2:



he deserves credit no doubt. But my point is that the natural talent had already been there, Guardiola was not the person who taught him the rubrics of being a midfielder hence he deserves just a little praise.

Anyways, delving into your argument, being a barcelona fan I must admit that Pep is a great coach but a very very poor manager. Bojan deteriorated under him, so did a lot of our other young players, if he does not like you, you are dead, that is not the sign of a good manager. Even after Mou insulted Eto he still played him, that means business first and that's the first thing you have to consider as a coach. I can go on and on higlighting his faults, Zlatan, Eto, Bojan etc etc. And the guy is a bloody racist too, read Messi's documentary, Pep became Barcelona's coach in 2008, that was the year of the olympics, Barca didn't want Messi to go so that he can learn the ways of the new coach but Pep came and told them that he can go, when asked Pep said he would NEVER prevent a player from going to the Olympics. Fast forward, Nacho was in thesame position recently, what did he do? The exact opposite, why? The color of his skin. Yaya was absolutely better than Busq in 2008/2009 but Pep chased him out because of him, Masch was also better than Busquets but he switched him into a CB just so that Busquets would play because Busquets is a spanish player and his dad is a close friend too. So he is a great coach(obviously aided by money and talent) but he is a bad manager

Lordabas:

Leon is good but i'm not yet sold on troost ekong, look at the calibre and number of goals the olympic team conceded.

TheGoodJoe:



When Barca coach Tito Vilanova was asked why he’d shelled out 15m Euros on Arsenal’s defensive midfielder Alex Song, his response was simply that Busquets cannot play every game. Song is possibly the world’s most expensive understudy.

http://sabotagetimes.com/football/barcelonas-sergio-busquets-is-the-best-non-attacking-footballer-in-the-world

This Catalans want to suffocate me with laugh.

Xavi himself claims Busquets is ‘the best one-touch player in the world’.

World Cup-winning Argentine manager Cesar Luis Menotti claims the young Catalan is ‘one of the greatest talents that has been given to Spanish football’.

Even the now almost mythical, spiritual god of the Barca style, Johann Cruyff, said when Busquets was a mere 19 years of age that ‘Positionally, he seems like a veteran with or without the ball. With the ball he makes what is difficult look easy…with the ball he gives us a lesson…he is a gift for any coach’.

If you look at it from Xavi's point if view from one touch football, Yaya Toure is not better than Busquets.

daveP:
Yeah, kinda but Troost covered the yansh of that Daniel keeper on several occasions. his other partners were poor when it came to setting offside traps thus he was always on his trap spot when his Co defenders were giving opponents sharp pace to expose defence. the Honduras game looked like he was singlely the only defender on the pitch.

You mention Mikel, and Troost comes second for best individual performance at Rio no doubt.

chrisooblog:
like you i agree that pep's people skills can be off but a lot of the stuff you listed against him are half truths or urban myths.

you say he chased yaya away even though he is better than busquets. hmmm interesting logic cos one player went on to win multiple league and UCL titles plus world cup while the other went on to become a local champion in manchester city. guardiola is biased yet after he left barca coaches including former real madrid and spanish national team coach del bosque was using this same busquets who was blocking the destiny of macherano and toure to win titles.

yes he's racist that's why keita, abidal, etoo couldn't flourish under him.

iheanacho not going to olympics is a non issue to me. unless you are saying wenger and winfred ndidi's coach in gent are also racists for stopping iwobi, ndidi from going to the olympics besides you cannot compare messi of then to kelechi of now. messi of 2008 though young was already a key player in barcelona who had clout to ask to be allowed to go to the olympics. iheanacho on the other is a talented young man still trying to establish himself in the manchester city first team. he's not yet an invaluable member of the manchester city squad who can wake up and tell his employers i want to go to olympics and they will agree just like that.

TheGoodJoe:


So much.

Guardiola, think Philosophy and you get who he is.

I will like to tackle Yaya Toure. I do not get the misconception of a genuine view as racist.

Guardiola does not believe much in power. The only time I saw him consider power was in the second leg against Chelsea in the 2009 Champions League. He played Seydou Keita and Yaya Toure in that game.

If you think in respect to passing. Sergio Busquets is better than Yaya Toure there. Fernandinho is better than Yaya in passing. Fernando is better passing.

Yaya plays with speed, power, shoots fantastically, crosses, plays long balls better than this.

That is not what is key to Guardiola. He wants simple passing. Yaya Toure lacks there, so I do not see him as a racist there. Why was he not racial to Boateng, Eric Abidal and Alaba?

TheGoodJoe:


Was Bojan ever up there? As a kid, he was exciting. At the U17, brilliant. When he broke into the first team, he was not lighting fireworks in Barcelona. Gio Dos Santos and Gai Assulin showed far more promise than Bojan.

When Guardiola came in, Messi, Pedro and Eto'o ran the show. Bojan was never going to blow there. Dos Santos left. Gai Assulin broke his leg and his career washed. (heart breaking).

Then Ibrahimovic came and then Villa. It was bigger than Barca fielding him than poor man management.

TheGoodJoe:


How can you say did nothing special? When Van Gaal and Heynckes felt Alaba was better as a left back. He played there all through their eras. Then Guardiola disagrees and makes him play influencing the midfield. Then he became one of the best players in the world. If that is not special, what is?

TheGoodJoe:



When Barca coach Tito Vilanova was asked why he’d shelled out 15m Euros on Arsenal’s defensive midfielder Alex Song, his response was simply that Busquets cannot play every game. Song is possibly the world’s most expensive understudy.

http://sabotagetimes.com/football/barcelonas-sergio-busquets-is-the-best-non-attacking-footballer-in-the-world

This Catalans want to suffocate me with laugh.

Xavi himself claims Busquets is ‘the best one-touch player in the world’.

World Cup-winning Argentine manager Cesar Luis Menotti claims the young Catalan is ‘one of the greatest talents that has been given to Spanish football’.

Even the now almost mythical, spiritual god of the Barca style, Johann Cruyff, said when Busquets was a mere 19 years of age that ‘Positionally, he seems like a veteran with or without the ball. With the ball he makes what is difficult look easy…with the ball he gives us a lesson…he is a gift for any coach’.

If you look at it from Xavi's point if view from one touch football, Yaya Toure is not better than Busquets.