edi287:

What is wrong in Pep telling eto how to improve his movement as a striker?? I agree with you to a certain extent that Pep isn't the best man manager around, but that'll come as he gets older. He's still a young coach.
Eto was just being daft imo.

BascoVanVeli:


Don't mind Troost, left o, right o, enter midfield knock, the guy was everywhere. To me the most underated player in the whole olympics.

Mickael2:


I meant as at 2008/09, Busquets wasn't a great player, he improved massively in 2010/11 so Pep was wrong to kick Yaya out when he did

Mickael2:


so in your opinion, Alaba the midfielder is better than Alaba the fullback?

Mickael2:


exactly. He used to force him to play as a CF which isn't his natural position so he failed there obviously, thats a huge fail on Guardiola's part. Bojan could have done what Fabregas was purchased to do, even better in fact but Pep kicked him out because he just does not like him. That's 40million wasted

Mickael2:


simple, they aren't africans or they wants us to believe they aren't. He really tried to bench Boateng, he started playing 3 defenders so he wil be exposed more but he is an absolute beast.

BascoVanVeli:


That is hogwash. Yaya is better than Busquets as a football player. Mancini lately said Yaya is on the same level as Messi and Ronaldo, he is a 4 time Africa player of the year winner, at his best the man can command the midfield and score the game winner. I am shocked that as a Man city fan u would even entertain such toughts, the man made u guys relevent forget Joe Hart and even Aguero, without Yaya u guys have nothing.

BascoVanVeli:


That is hogwash. Yaya is better than Busquets as a football player. Mancini lately said Yaya is on the same level as Messi and Ronaldo, he is a 4 time Africa player of the year winner, at his best the man can command the midfield and score the game winner. I am shocked that as a Man city fan u would even entertain such toughts, the man made u guys relevent forget Joe Hart and even Aguero, without Yaya u guys have nothing.

TheGoodJoe:


Let me say it again.

If you look at Running with the ball, free kicks, shooting from range, Yaya Toure is miles ahead of Busquets and Mikel. That is why I pointed Mikel who received the Slowbi criticism.

When you come to the Tiki Taka, one touch football and positioning strength, Mikel and Busquets are light years ahead of Yaya Toure.

In 2009-2010.
Opta statistics show that only Chelsea's Mikel John Obi has a better pass percentage rate. Of Scholes's 1,497 passes this season, 89.58% have reached their target

Scholes is one of the players used to teach Tiki Taka principles.

When we talk Johann Cruyff, Del Bosque, Guardiola, Tito, Enrique, Valdes, Xavi and Iniesta, we are talking of the people who idolize one touch football.

Running with ball, shooting from far is not the aim of the philosophy and Busquets is ahead of Yaya Toure in this one touch football.

So is Fernandinho, Fernando and Gundogan. That is why Yaya is losing his place at Manchester City.

In another system, Yaya is miles ahead of these players.

TheGoodJoe:


We won four games in four without Yaya Toure. I think we are far from nothing without Yaya.

BascoVanVeli:


Did u have any titles without Yaya Did u guys matter without Yaya? Yaya is Man city's biggest legend, even if i was from China i would know that talkless of being an African. He made Man City a place that top players want to come. Without Yaya man city is not a team that Pep would coach.

BascoVanVeli:


Did u have any titles without Yaya Did u guys matter without Yaya? Yaya is Man city's biggest legend, even if i was from China i would know that talkless of being an African. He made Man City a place that top players want to come. Without Yaya man city is not a team that Pep would coach.

BascoVanVeli:


U like to bring up passing stats but u forget about the system the players are in. How do u know that Yaya can't stand in one spot and make passes?

BascoVanVeli:


Did u have any titles without Yaya Did u guys matter without Yaya? Yaya is Man city's biggest legend, even if i was from China i would know that talkless of being an African. He made Man City a place that top players want to come. Without Yaya man city is not a team that Pep would coach.

safarigirl:
so, what will you say of Aguero? Wetin dey do una and that arrogant Yaya? You no follow read the headache wey he give City? If not for City, who would notice Toure on Barca's bench?

Toure is old, if you can't see that, then na you get issue. He needs to retire, since last season he has been as active as Kanu was at the 2010 WC, if he doesn't have the sense to retire, he should be chased out. Y'all be acting like they don't pay Toure.

Hart was sent off as well, why are the English people not carrying grudge?This is club football and you nee the best, how can United have Pogba in midfield and you guys expect City to keep Toure that even Mikel can boss, in their own midfield

TheGoodJoe:


If you talk City Legends, what about Zabaleta? Who injured repeatedly. Ran up and down the flank constantly.

As it stands, Guardiola might not renew his contract that ends this year. It is hard but that era is passing. Nasri also gave a lot. I remember his beautiful outside foot shot in the Capital one cup finals.

These guys reigned but they will not last forever. Do you think it was easy for Enrique to let Xavi go?

TheGoodJoe:


Yaya Toure can play it but other players are better in it. If you look at Scholes, Mikel, Xabi Alonso, Busquets etc. They rely on simple passes to unlock tight midfield. Not power or speed.

You see them pass and move. Pass and move. Yaya can do this but not like them.

Guardiola's system is about simple passes. Yaya Toure is not known for simple passes. Also Guardiola wants players who press the opponents for the ball and Yaya does not do it the way he wants.

BascoVanVeli:


U sef, i was speaking on what he has done for city(past). Nigerians don't ever understand prejudice and bias treatment based on race. How can Man City forget Yaya Toure's birthday? It is just crazy that a man that has done so much for u does not deserve even a card on his birthday. Would chelsea forget Harzard's birthday? So because he is an African he should just take it on the chin and move on, never! What Yaya did will end up helping even Iheanacho, he stood up for what is right. I am sick and tired of our players being less appreciated just because they are African, this man scored 20 goals in one season if he was from France he would be world best. Yaya is still better than Pogba btw. I am not a child i know Yaya doesn't fit into Pep's plans as of now, but he is still a boss player. Inter Millan wanted his this summer but i am sure his salary was the sticking point.

TheGoodJoe:


Alaba became one of the best players in the world working under Guardiola who made him influence the midfield.

BascoVanVeli:


U know someone else who used to rely on power and speed? Wayne Rooney but now he is doing it the "Xavi" way. What does that tell u? A player is a player and players can adapt. Look at Rakitic, he plays with "power and speed" but still he is doing a great job at barca. The fact is he could not break into an all spanish midfield in Spain, that does not make him less of a player.

zicky:
so as of 2013 when Bayern won the champions league Alaba was not one of the best players, when he was already Bayern freekicks n Pk taker. Have already told you keep Alaba out of your Guardiola talk cause Alaba was already made and a big player before Guardiola

zicky:
so as of 2013 when Bayern won the champions league Alaba was not one of the best players, when he was already Bayern freekicks n Pk taker. Have already told you keep Alaba out of your Guardiola talk cause Alaba was already made and a big player before Guardiola

BascoVanVeli:


Don't change the topic, who is begging that u keep him. All i am saying is give respect. U made Yaya sound average and that is one of the best to ever come out of Africa. U are not Pep so why would i be asking u to keep Yaya. U have never seen Yaya in a holding role so don't imagine that he cannot one touch pass.

TheGoodJoe:


People like you just say things you do not know.

Let me tell you where I first saw Yaya in a holding role. Nigeria vs Cote I'voire that we lost 1-0 to a Drogba goal. The goal cane from a long ball from Yaya Toure. Mikel was young then. Not long after 2005 WYC.

I have watched Yaya play the holding role severally, including when Fernandinho was injured. He played there in some games for Barca.

So how can you say I have never seen Yaya play the holing role.

Concerning your change the topic talk. I have maintained the same point from the first time you raised Yaya vs Busquets talk.

I said, in the TIKI TAKA style Busquets is better. Where did you get that I made Yaya look average?

If I say Pirlo is a better deep-lying playmaker than Xavi, am I making Xavi look average?

TheGoodJoe:


If you look at Alaba's individual honors, you will understand the leap in quality under Guardiola. He gained notice for his versatility in play.

Individual Honors Of Alaba From Wiki:

Individual Edit
Austrian Footballer of the Year: 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015
Austrian Sports Personality of the Year: 2013, 2014
UEFA Team of the Year: 2013, 2014, 2015
UEFA Champions League Team of the Group Stage: 2015
ESM Team of the Year: 2014
France Football World XI: 2015
Bundesliga Team of the Season: 2015–16

Alaba was one of the best left backs but Under Guardiola, he became one of the best players in the world.

safarigirl:
even he sef don tire to dey play, now he's just there for the money.

I personally don't like Yaya Toure and his entitled self, always acting like he was robbed by the world, so if they're dealing with him, i couldn't care less. The man is arrogant and unlikeable, people would support him if he didn't have a history of bytching when things don't go his way. From birthdays to CAF awards, Yaya is a big wailer.

Maybe i would support another African player, but not someone with a history of throwing tantrums

BascoVanVeli:


I repeat u have never seen him in a holding role because if u have all this wouldn't be necessary. Just last year Yaya had 86% passing accuracy and that was as a box to box player. Now imagine him being told to stand one place and pass the ball. Go check his stats at barca as a cb.One of his biggest strengths is passing.