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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Subzero047: 9:07pm On Jun 06, 2020
TheSuperNerd:
Congratulations but it doesn't change anything. EA Sports also recorded his pace stat at RB Salzburg. His RB Salzburg base card for pace was 81. Now at Dortmund it is 82.

Osimhen's base card at Lille for pace is 85. That says it all. Osimhen is clearly faster.

EA Sports stats (World renowned) >>>>>>> Media talk.




The same EA Sports that had Marcus Rashford as stronger than Adama Traore undecided

People are talking stats you are talking video games

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Edopesin: 9:07pm On Jun 06, 2020
TheSuperNerd:


As in eh Andy. Suddenly amnesia has taken over some that they forget strikers who really killed it even before age 20.

Loooll... Mbappe KOLAWOLE Lottin.

Sergio fit be like a Calabar or Ibom man. grin He should be Sergio Akpan Aguero.

Wayne fit be Wayne "Isi ewu" Rooney. grin

Lol... You are doing well. grin




I agree o can you please give us Mbappe kolawale's and isi ewu goal ratio at 19 cheesy
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Edopesin: 9:10pm On Jun 06, 2020
Subzero047:


The same EA Sports that had Marcus Rashford as stronger than Adama Traore undecided

People are talking stats you are talking video games


they also claim Zaniolo is more physical than Traore grin grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 9:11pm On Jun 06, 2020
Edopesin:


Well Zlatan is his Idol

Ok

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mank1234(m): 9:15pm On Jun 06, 2020
https://www.goal.com/en/amp/news/nothing-we-did-was-a-mourinho-plan-how-porto-costinha-howard/1ntrkitj3irz31ae57slmgnlkr

"... Even when I was talking to an Italian club at the time, he called me in the hotel afterwards and he said; ‘Costa, stay with us, we are going to win the league and the Champions League. Then, you can go to England or Italy.’

"He always talked to you like that. And you believed him and it made you more confident. So, we went into matches with more belief than we would have normally had." - Costinha on Mourinho concerning Porto's 2004 UCL triumph.

Can Rhor inspire confidence when facing a top side?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 9:17pm On Jun 06, 2020
Lol... Expected you to jump in at some point. You didn't disappoint at all. Lol

Video games indeed. The rankings of the world's strongest and most physical footballers is based off EA Sports Painstaking stats research for physicality and more with many reputable sites having quoted them at many points in time. They are a strong reference points for players attributes in the world of football yet it is now just a video game just to push a "Haaland is faster" narrative. Lol.. please go sit back down. Got no time for blind sentimental arguments tonight. The kind that says Lingard is better than Iwobi. Or Ramon Azeez is a natural AM. Lol





Subzero047:


The same EA Sports that had Marcus Rashford as stronger than Adama Traore undecided

People are talking stats you are talking video games

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Subzero047: 9:22pm On Jun 06, 2020
TheSuperNerd:
Lol... Expected you to jump in at some point. You didn't disappoint at all. Lol

Video games indeed. The rankings of the world's strongest and most physical footballers is based off EA Sports Painstaking stats research for physicality and more with many reputable sites having quoted them at many points in time. They are a strong reference points for players attributes in the world of football yet it is now just a video game just to push a "Haaland is faster" narrative. Lol.. please go sit back down. Got no time for blind sentimental arguments tonight. The kind that says Lingard is better than Iwobi. Or Ramon Azeez is a natural AM. Lol






Lingard is faster than Antonio Valencia in FIFA
Maddison is faster than Zouma in FIFA

Mr 'ea Sports Painstaking stats research for physicality and more with many reputable sites' yen yen yen

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 9:22pm On Jun 06, 2020
Edopesin:


Abeg bring pele's stat at 19 cheesy

Cover your eyes, they could tear up from viewing these...

Snippet on Pele as a teen...

• He made his Santos debut aged 15

• Aged 16 he scored 41 goals in 38 games for Santos & 2 in 2 for Brazil.

• Aged 17 he scored 66 goals in 46 games for Santos & 9 in 7 for BRAZIL.

• Winning the World Cup, scoring 6 goals from the QF onwards.

All before he turned 18.

Check this thread for more: https://twitter.com/SelecaoTalk/status/1251876406679699457?s=19


In 1958 at 17, check out the % of his team's goals he scored. Now feast your eyes on the others below.... grin Ouch!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Edopesin: 9:22pm On Jun 06, 2020
UEFA.com puts Osimhen and Haaland at the same speed of 32km/hr

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Utonwanne(m): 9:22pm On Jun 06, 2020
TheSuperNerd:





Pele wasn't an out and out striker sef but he did more than this at age 19.

But talking of actual strikers... Ronaldo De Lima laughs in Portuguese. grin





Pele kwa? grin grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 9:24pm On Jun 06, 2020
Yes.. EA Sports >>>>>>sentiments and bollocks grin

Osimhen is faster than Haaland. No question about it. Davies didn't even break a sweat exposing Haaland's "speed". Hahahahahaha... Sorry. wink



Subzero047:


Lingard is faster than Antonio Valencia in FIFA
Maddison is faster than Zouma in FIFA

Mr EA Sports Painstaking stats research for physicality and more with many reputable sites yen yen yen

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 9:25pm On Jun 06, 2020
Yes. The greatest teen talent of all time and greatest footballer of all time. Any problem? grin

Utonwanne:


Pele kwa? grin grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Subzero047: 9:26pm On Jun 06, 2020
TheSuperNerd:
Yes.. EA Sports >>>>>>sentiments and bollocks grin

Osimhen is faster than Haaland. No question about it. Davies didn't even break a sweat exposing Haaland's "speed". Hahahahahaha... Sorry. wink




This is not a stat and won't fly, TheGoodJoe has shown you Haarland's top speed, bring up Osimhen's top speed from a reputable site not your Ps4 to be taken seriously

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 9:29pm On Jun 06, 2020
Edopesin:


Haaland has better goal ratio than them cheesy

go check

Better goal ratio playing in the Austrian league ba ?

Aguero scored 19 laliga goal at the age of 19 playing for an atm side not on the same level with Diego someone own

Haaland can’t do that sorry
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Edopesin: 9:29pm On Jun 06, 2020
TheSuperNerd:


Cover your eyes, they could tear up from viewing these...

Snippet on Pele as a teen...

• He made his Santos debut aged 15

• Aged 16 he scored 41 goals in 38 games for Santos & 2 in 2 for ��

• Aged 17 he scored 66 goals in 46 games for Santos & 9 in 7 for ��

• Winning the World Cup, scoring 6 goals from the QF onwards.

All before he turned 18.

Check this thread for more: https://twitter.com/SelecaoTalk/status/1251876406679699457?s=19


In 1958 at 17, check out the % of his team's goals he scored. Now feast your eyes on the others below.... grin Ouch!


At the end of the day Haaland still has better goal ratio

wink
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 9:30pm On Jun 06, 2020
Hahahahahaha... Is it my fault that Osimhen's top speed isn't known thanks to the media's one sided overhype over a white kid. I bet if Osimhen was white, we wouldn't be having this talk. Same Sky sports would have put out their idea of Osimhen's speed rating overtime but didn't bother. But thanks Goodness for EA Sports.

And sorry man... Nothing sound flies with you. EA Sports stats flies with people and bodies that matter in football so your quabblings don't matter at all. All you can do is talk. Lol. Doesn't change the simple fact that Osimhen is faster....85>>>>>82. Sorry kid.


Goodnight.




Subzero047:


This is not a stat and won't fly, TheGoodJoe has shown you Haarland's top speed, bring up Osimhen's top speed from a reputable site not your Ps4 to be taken seriously

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Subzero047: 9:32pm On Jun 06, 2020
andrewbaba44:


Better goal ratio playing in the Austrian league ba ?

Aguero scored 19 laliga goal at the age of 19 playing for an atm side not on the same level with Diego someone own

Haaland can’t do that sorry

Haaland has 10 goals in 8 champions league games, that is not the Austrian league tho

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 9:33pm On Jun 06, 2020
I can see that the stats science is too much for you to digest. So you have quickly done the maths ratios abi... hahahahahaha. You cannot see the % of team goals Pele recorded? The Haaland obsession has blocked your reasoning. It's been a pleasure. Goodnight. grin




P.S: Pele's team goals contribution trumps that of Messi and Ronaldo too per year. And you mention Haaland here... Please don't insult football. grin


Edopesin:


At the end of the day Haaland still has better goal ratio

wink

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Subzero047: 9:34pm On Jun 06, 2020
TheSuperNerd:
Hahahahahaha... Is it my fault that Osimhen's top speed isn't known thanks to the media's one sided overhype over a white kid. I bet if Osimhen was white, we wouldn't be having this talk. Same Sky sports would have out out their idea of speed rating. But thanks Goodness for EA Sports.

And sorry man... Nothing sound flies with you. EA Sports stats flies with people and bodies that matter in football so your quabblings don't matter at all. All you can do is talk. Lol. Doesn't change the simple fact that Osimhen is faster....85>>>>>82. Sorry kid.


Goodnight.





Oh Racism, I see you are in tune with current affairs grin

Ehizibue didn't seem to be affected by the racism tho

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 9:34pm On Jun 06, 2020
Subzero047:


Haaland has 10 goals in 8 champions league games, that is not the Austrian league tho

Trust me if haaland can become the player Aguero is today na over achievement

Haaland is not better than those players at 19,take it or leave it

Messi didn’t score 5 champions league goal at that age or even cr7 , you can keep on judging with his champions league goal ,but he is not better than those players at 19
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Utonwanne(m): 9:37pm On Jun 06, 2020
TheSuperNerd:
Yes. The greatest teen talent of all time and greatest footballer of all time. Any problem? grin


Pele is oldie, donkey years ago. Some people believes that his figures is somewhat exaggerated.


We have mbappe and Aguero to compare him.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Edopesin: 9:37pm On Jun 06, 2020
andrewbaba44:


Better goal ratio playing in the Austrian league ba ?

Aguero scored 19 laliga goal at the age of 19 playing for an atm side not on the same level with Diego someone own

Haaland can’t do that sorry

Aguero had goal ratio of 0.5 while haaland has a goal ratio of 1.1

people also claimed he won't deliver in bundesliga but then again we know the story
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 9:38pm On Jun 06, 2020
Subzero047:


Oh Racism, I see you are in tune with current affairs grin


Yea, even "De Gea" has taken up arms against it.. Now bye bye. grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Subzero047: 9:39pm On Jun 06, 2020
Edopesin:


Aguero had goal ratio of 0.5 while haaland has a goal ratio of 1.1

people also claimed he won't deliver in bundesliga but then again we know the story

Hahaha 'Austrian league is too easy' grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 9:40pm On Jun 06, 2020
I am not "some people" thankfully and I have quite a sound knowledge of football in that era. So yeah, His stats matter even today.


Utonwanne:


Pele is oldie, donkey years ago. Some people believes that his figures is somewhat exaggerated.


We have mbappe and Aguero to compare him.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 9:40pm On Jun 06, 2020
Edopesin:


Aguero had goal ratio of 0.5 while haaland has a goal ratio of 1.1

people also claimed he won't deliver in bundesliga but then again we know the story

No compare Aguero playing for atm then with haaland okay

Laliga hard then

Nobody said haaland won’t deliver in the German league ,no Dey lie ok

Talents full Dortmund
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Edopesin: 9:41pm On Jun 06, 2020
TheSuperNerd:
I can see that the stats science is too much for you to digest. So you have quickly done the maths ratios abi... hahahahahaha. You cannot see the % of team goals Pele recorded? The Haaland obsession has blocked your reasoning. It's been a pleasure. Goodnight. grin




P.S: Pele's team goals contribution trumps that of Messi and Ronaldo too per year. And you mention Haaland here... Please don't insult football. grin




haaland's goal ratio also surpasses that of Messi and Ronaldo at 19 cheesy

this is fact

You had to go and look for an Ancient offside crooner to prove your point with a modern striker but still shot yourself in the foot lmfao

Sleep tight don't let the bed bugs bite

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Subzero047: 9:41pm On Jun 06, 2020
TheSuperNerd:


Yea, even "De Gea" has taken up arms against it.. Now bye bye. grin

Ehizibue whose top speed was recorded is he white? Hakimi? Matondo?

Boy you ran out of excuses too quick

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Subzero047: 9:43pm On Jun 06, 2020
andrewbaba44:


No compare Aguero playing for atm then with haaland okay

Laliga hard then

Nobody said haaland won’t deliver in the German league ,no Dey lie ok

Talents full Dortmund

Hahahahahahahahahaha

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:43pm On Jun 06, 2020
safarigirl:
England did not qualify for the U-17 World Cup in 2013, so, it is not likely we will find players from that crop doing much today. You can barely even find the team list online.


However, they were present at the tournament two years later, Trent-Alexander Arnold, Chris Willock and Tom Davies, seen to be the only players from the England 2015 U-17 team that have actual football careers, the others are playing for mediocre teams; I checked, to be sure.

Of those three, we all know, only TAA is EXCEPTIONAL. The likes of Tomori and these new age English players we have been bamboozled with so far, [b]were never considered good enough for these U-17 team'[/b]s.

First of all you lack understanding.

If you had some level of knowledge by participative association of football in England then you would understand, but you do not. And you therefore operate on assumption birthed from limited perception which is mostly emotive.

I will address Icon4s as well on this subject , I did ask what is his unit of measurement for success, because the term is ambiguous even the how we use the word progression.

There are two very large disparities within football in making comparison to Nigeria and England. Undoubtedly the aspiration for the overwhelming majority of players in Nigeria is too play in the much more financially lucrative football leagues of Europe.

In Nigeria the route to gain access to the top European football league is almost exclusively through the vehicle of youth national football , U17 and U20 , great emphasis is placed on this route. Furthermore, there is natural consistent progression from the U17, & U20 national youth teams to the senior national team SE underpinned with football progression in Europe's top football leagues. Going to Europe as an over 23 year old Nigerian is not impossible but very difficult.

In England progression to the top teams in the EPL and or the still very financially lucrative Championship is absolutely not underpinned with success at U17 national team selection, its completely , irrelevant. Indeed England is quite unique in that for a very long time there was no consistent progression from national youth teams U17, U21, etc to the senior national team. It was perceived as an unnecessary intrusion by many top clubs.

As a consequence football particularly EPL clubs considered U17 football a distraction particularly for player who were already excelling and even playing first team football. Indeed the players were not particularly interested and that interest becomes outright refusal if they are already playing first team football and or very close to it. Playing U17 will be considered a demotion, in Nigeria you have the complete opposite. There are well documented grumblings by the English FA against clubs refusing to release players. The clubs cannot be blamed when you have 16/17 year old playing first team football on £20k a week, with the season in full swing they will not want too lose their momentum and place in the team by playing a U17 youth football tournament, it simply adds no value to their career.

However, for young players who are in league 1 and or in EPL clubs but far away from the first team then playing for England may just give their careers a much needed boost.

TheGoodjoe and Icon4s asked for a comparison of the 2013 England U17.

Before I proceed, you will find quite a few players of 15 in the U17 indeed you will find also quite a few players who are 16/17 playing in the U20 teams for England. Again for some players will consider U17 football beneath them rightly or wrongly that is their choice. As a consequence these youth team squads are quite large because of the number of players withdrawing mainly at U17 level.

Bringing things up to speed "kick racism" out has affected selection and the previous racial discriminatory bias in favour of blue eyed players of past years has declined considerably. Fast forward , England won the U20 and U17 world cups with a predominantly black team for the first time. What it did was give players added value and more bargaining power as well as prestige, add to that Mbappe and the incredible values put on young players, English clubs now see it as added marketable value which was not the case before.

Now lets look at the England U17 squad in 2013 and 2015 that seems to be your focus (not sure why) , I will name 10 players from each of those squads.

2013 England U17

Angus Gunn - GK - Southhampton
Freddie Woodman - Newcastle United on loan at Swansea 1st choice GK
Joe Gomez - Liverpool FC
Ola Aina - Torino
Rueben Loftus-Cheek - Chelsea
Lewis Cooke - Bournemouth
Harry Winks - Tottenham
Dele Alli - Tottenham
Izzy Brown - Chelsea on loan Luton Town
Kasey Palmer - Chelsea on loan Bristol City
Alex Iwobi - Everton


2015 England U17

Alfie Whiteman - GK (reserve) - Tottenham
Alfie Whiteman -GK (reserve) - Manchester United
Reece Oxford - Augsburg
Hayden Coulson - Middlesborough
Jay Dasilva - Bristol City
Trent Alexander - Liverpool
Kyle Edwards - WBA
Yan Dhanda - Swansea
Todd Cantwell - Norwich
Andre Green - Aston Villa on loan Charlton Athletic
Nathan Holland - West Ham on loan Oxford
Jonathan Lekoy - WBA on loan at Charlton
Chris Willock - Huddersfield
Marcus Edward - Vitoria de Guimaraes
Lukas Nmecha - Manchester City on loan Middlesborough (changed allegiance now plays for Germany U21)


Finally , you should look at the exceptional transfer bids being made for the unexceptional Tod Cantwell according to you.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Edopesin: 9:44pm On Jun 06, 2020
Subzero047:

Hahaha 'Austrian league is too easy' grin
e too easy na why our fellow Nigerians dey chop bench left and right there grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 9:44pm On Jun 06, 2020
Subzero047:


Oh Racism, I see you are in tune with current affairs grin

Ehizibue didn't seem to be affected by the racism tho

Speaking of Ehizibue, he is for now, recorded to be faster in the bundesliga than Davies who showed how much a "slowbie" Haaland is in the Dortmund vs Bayern game. Awwwwww grin grin Ndo ooo... Now scram. I'm done. Loooolll

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