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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by dankol: 9:12pm On Apr 30, 2016
Sheenor:

Were you ashamed of your new faith/belief? Or scared to open up?? Why don't you tell him then and use that opportunity to open his eyes lolz, anyways, continue....
Seriously bro.. you wont understand. You feel pity for those people when you meet them cos they will not believe you if you tell them otherwise. The pschology of Religion is damn to powerful on her slave subjects. Mind you some of us in the op's shoe have to play along because, we are in a religious society. My story is so similar to that of the op.. i must commend you for writing this out, i think.. i will do mine also but not on naitraland because many are still blinded. They dnt even want to see. And personally, i hate bothering myself because of some ingrate.. i let ur experience define your decision. Till date many of my spiritual protege still refer to me as pastor, some call me bishop.. any way i dnt care.. all i know is AM A FREE MAN... There is no slavery as worse than mental/psychological one... I really pity a whole lot of theists.

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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by urahara(m): 9:25pm On Apr 30, 2016
cry cryoga hard mirror i see u o. U no wan continue story again ba. No wahala. If i call on my jesus to send down fire on you eh u ll revert back to be being a pastor grin

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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by wirinet(m): 9:25pm On Apr 30, 2016
dankol:

Seriously bro.. you wont understand. You feel pity for those people when you meet them cos they will not believe you if you tell them otherwise. The pschology of Religion is damn to powerful on her slave subjects. Mind you some of us in the op's shoe have to play along because, we are in a religious society. My story is so similar to that of the op.. i must commend you for writing this out, i think.. i will do mine also but not on naitraland because many are still blinded. They dnt even want to see. And personally, i hate bothering myself because of some ingrate.. i let ur experience define your decision. Till date many of my spiritual protege still refer to me as pastor, some call me bishop.. any way i dnt care.. all i know is AM A FREE MAN... There is no slavery as worse than mental/psychological one... I really pity a whole lot of theists.
Dankol, i plead with you to also share your own story of how you become "UNPLUGGED" it will go a long way in helping others who are enslaved in the shackles of exploitative religions and their men of gods. Nairaland with its very huge audience would be the best place to post your experience.

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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Alphanancy: 9:26pm On Apr 30, 2016
You couldnt have said it better. Lets wait for the Op to conclude though.
dankol:

Seriously bro.. you wont understand. You feel pity for those people when you meet them cos they will not believe you if you tell them otherwise. The pschology of Religion is damn to powerful on her slave subjects. Mind you some of us in the op's shoe have to play along because, we are in a religious society. My story is so similar to that of the op.. i must commend you for writing this out, i think.. i will do mine also but not on naitraland because many are still blinded. They dnt even want to see. And personally, i hate bothering myself because of some ingrate.. i let ur experience define your decision. Till date many of my spiritual protege still refer to me as pastor, some call me bishop.. any way i dnt care.. all i know is AM A FREE MAN... There is no slavery as worse than mental/psychological one... I really pity a whole lot of theists.

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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by HardMirror(m): 9:32pm On Apr 30, 2016
To those who want me to skip the stories and my experiences and go straight to how I became an atheist, please be patient. The details I am giving are important has I have a lot to expose.
There are many reasons why Christianity has survived the test of time even tho it is built on lies and deep human psychology. Many suspect this but find it almost impossible to question God or his word. Some are still thinking I just became an atheist. I have been an atheist since 2011. Totally stopped praying and going to church since 2012.

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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by HardMirror(m): 9:34pm On Apr 30, 2016
Typing...

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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Davedavy: 9:35pm On Apr 30, 2016
Interesting story grin
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by LoJ: 9:46pm On Apr 30, 2016
SirWere:
Odin loves you bro
My bro SirWere,

We have been waiting for you on another topic you opened angry angry

Hope you are doing good smiley smiley

I troway salute.

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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by dankol: 9:51pm On Apr 30, 2016
wirinet:

Dankol, i plead with you to also share your own story of how you become "UNPLUGGED" it will go a long way in helping others who are enslaved in the shackles of exploitative religions and their men of gods. Nairaland with its very huge audience would be the best place to post your experience.

Well, bro.. am humbled but one basic fact is Religionists are not ready to absorb the truth especially.. the God of men.. let me tell you why.. Religion is like a business cult that has grown so powerful in partnership with politics such that, both watchout for themselves. Thus, if any one try to "pour sand into their garri".. They will fight you to a standstill involving their slaves to unleach on you... It s like a business you have built for donkey years and suddenly one government official said. your business is illegal.. and wants you to shut down immediately.. sure you will agree with me that your instinct will push you to silence him either dead or alife.Same it is...
My journey to atheism was born out of my thirst to know God better.. With all sense of humility, holiness was my robe, churchiness was my culture. I was a music minister and rose through the rank and file of the hierarchy.. See.. Religion does not make one a better person though it can ifluence you to be one... but i think we within ourselves decide whether we want to be good or bad. On the contracry, it makes one an hypocrite.. and thats what religionists are. no offence but its the truth..
Op.. I still go to church but at my own discreetion just to fulfill all righteousness of the society and moreso, there is no concrete platform for people of like mind to meet. Infact we are scared of revealing ourselves because of the trauma that will follow. Ours will be worse than the gay persons. I started my atheism journey late 2014.
@ wirinet.. i will think about it.. watch out but not so soon.. Something explosive i about to happen in my church (its a very dirty stuff).. i need to closely moniitor it).. Thats my new found hobby anyway..

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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by HardMirror(m): 9:59pm On Apr 30, 2016
WITCHCRAFT
REAL
Believe it or not witchcraft is real. Yes as real as magic. What is magic? Magic is basically ability to use supernatural powers to do impossible things to entertain people. At least that is what we want to believe. But the fact is magic is really clever tricks done to make you believe you are witnessing an extra-ordinary feat. Magic is real when the magician is good at his tricks.
Same with witchcraft, it is real because some people can make it real to you.

2010
I organized an outreach to Idanre, Ondo State.
During the main night of crusade, I preached, many gave their lives to christ, many were prayed for for healing and most importantly, MANY were delivered from witchcraft.
Note this was ASF, so you can verify if you don't believe. It was what we called a state outreach. So students from all tertiary institutions that were members of ASF were involved. AAUA, FUTA, Adeyemi collage of education, FECA, School of Nursing, School of Health tech. Etc.
I could not sleep that night I kept speaking in tongues till the next morning because I was afraid for the safety of my people on this outreach in this village.
The next morning a woman brought a girl not more than 10years old at most and told us she was her grand daughter.
She told use this grand daughter of hers was a witch and a very strong one.
That yesterday when we left the crusade ground her grand daughter kept shouting fire in her sleep.
I did not allow many people to know. Only 4 of us, and the woman and girl making 6 in total were there.
I looked at the girl and asked her if she was a witch. The girl was confused and lost.
Then she said yes she was a witch.
I asked how she came to know she was a witch and she said, everyone had always told her she was a witch as long as she could remember.
Her parent, her grandma. They always said she was a witch. The reason why her dad was not doing so well, so they sent her to the village to stay with grandma.
I asked her a lot of questions to be sure she was a witch. Then I began to suspect the grandmum to be a witch too. So I asked both of them to kneel while we circle them and pray deliverance for them.
Note: there were clear indications the grandma and girl were not witches but confused beings who are just seeped in tradition and superstition. BUT I was too blinded by religion to be rational. I instead was suspicious of both of them trying to test God.
https://www.nairaland.com/3078223/pastor-atheist-why-never-christian/4#45202272

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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by nelsonoba: 10:01pm On Apr 30, 2016
LoJ:

Hello Sir,

You have repeatedly expressed your opinion and your warnings on this thread, and it has been noted. Thank you for you kind intentions. Now that you have already done that and so many times, could you do us a favor and allow the thread to continue without all these digressions?

I think the main purpose of the thread is not warning atheists or non christians. If you want to do that, open your thread and interested people will follow you there. Please, allow the guy to share his testimony. After all no be by force. It is a life story, he is entitled to share it, and we are interested in reading what he's got to say.

Thank you for your understanding. Greetings.

Oga, the last time i checked, this was a public forum and i'm not preventing the NEW ATHEIST from writing his story. I also do not expect you to obstruct my answers when i make a comment and the NEW ATHEIST or any of his group members question my comment. I do not recall trying to address you directly in any of my questions/answers with the NEW ATHEIST

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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by kepstone: 10:03pm On Apr 30, 2016
Whoever wrote this please permit me to say u have totally written rubbish under d influence of satanic manipulation on ur mind. How dear you come out to say such about GOD and d grace he bestowed on you to serve his body. Watch brother, you are slipping gradually to a world of regret. I may not want to expose myself , to me what u have seen is nothing in your Christian walk. Do you know how much divinity was deployed to save humanity. See the devil does not care about you all he cares if for you to land in his coven eternally. Today I went to evangelize, and I was speaking to someone not to miss heaven cos hell will not be inevitable and its eternal. I pray that GOD restores you, I love him so much that nothing in this life will change my stands on him both want I know and what I don't know. If he chooses not to answer my prayers he his still my GOD, i f I never !ake money I won't deny him. I love him GOD.

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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by urahara(m): 10:08pm On Apr 30, 2016
nelsonoba:


Oga, the last time i checked, this was a public forum and i'm not preventing the NEW ATHEIST from writing his story. I also do not expect you to obstruct my answers when i make a comment and the NEW ATHEIST or any of his group members question my comment. I do not recall trying to address you directly in any of my questions/answers with the NEW ATHEIST

Typing in caps new atheist just to try and bring the op down is startin to make u look silly. U re just so pained that the op doesnt take your god construct 2 be real.

#the islamic hell awaits u . u go hear wye

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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by OgundeleT(m): 10:13pm On Apr 30, 2016
johnydon22:
Hhmmmmm looks like i nearly missed this to be ground breaking story... well i am here now **Grabs seat near OgundeleT** "guy give me pop corn and stout abeg cool

Little suggestion Pastor HardMirror, you need not reply the mentions from heart broken vulnerable Christian brothers that has been raining down pleadingly on this thread..

simply ignore and focus on your story which is why we are here..

Contunu **sips a cup of atlantic ocean**
hmmm. god dey vex for this ur stout
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by HardMirror(m): 10:16pm On Apr 30, 2016
kepstone:
Whoever wrote this please permit me to say u have totally written rubbish under d influence of satanic manipulation on ur mind. How dear you come out to say such about GOD and d grace he bestowed on you to serve his body. Watch brother, you are slipping gradually to a world of regret. I may not want to expose myself , to me what u have seen is nothing in your Christian walk. Do you know how much divinity was deployed to save humanity. See the devil does not care about you all he cares if for you to land in his coven eternally. Today I went to evangelize, and I was speaking to someone not to miss heaven cos hell will not be inevitable and its eternal. I pray that GOD restores you, I love him so much that nothing in this life will change my stands on him both want I know and what I don't know. If he chooses not to answer my prayers he his still my GOD, i f I never !ake money I won't deny him. I love him GOD.
Abeg, park well. This is one of the strengths of religion, Speaking with authority and absolute certainty. It works. But you have no idea who you are talking to.
Even hardened criminals get swayed by this tactics.
I once visited Olokuta Prison in Akure and I realized that men are week. I have never seen men so humbled. They praised God better than any church I have ever visited.
Humans are searching for answers to life and when they come across a person with so much confidence and speaks with authority claiming answers from God who created heaven and earth. Who is all powerful and has a wrath greater than anything anyone can imagine, it is only natural to tremble and succumb.

So park well with your useless pity and threats

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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by wirinet(m): 10:18pm On Apr 30, 2016
dankol:


Well, bro.. am humbled but one basic fact is Religionists are not ready to absorb the truth especially.. the God of men.. let me tell you why.. Religion is like a business cult that has grown so powerful in partnership with politics such that, both watchout for themselves. Thus, if any one try to "pour sand into their garri".. They will fight you to a standstill involving their slaves to unleach on you... It s like a business you have built for donkey years and suddenly one government official said. your business is illegal.. and wants you to shut down immediately.. sure you will agree with me that your instinct will push you to silence him either dead or alife.Same it is...
My journey to atheism was born out of my thirst to know God better.. With all sense of humility, holiness was my robe, churchiness was my culture. I was a music minister and rose through the rank and file of the hierarchy.. See.. Religion does not make one a better person though it can ifluence you to be one... but i think we within ourselves decide whether we want to be good or bad. On the contracry, it makes one an hypocrite.. and thats what religionists are. no offence but its the truth..
Op.. I still go to church but at my own discreetion just to fulfill all righteousness of the society and moreso, there is no concrete platform for people of like mind to meet. Infact we are scared of revealing ourselves because of the trauma that will follow. Ours will be worse than the gay persons. I started my atheism journey late 2014.
@ wirinet.. i will think about it.. watch out but not so soon.. Something explosive i about to happen in my church (its a very dirty stuff).. i need to closely moniitor it).. Thats my new found hobby anyway..

Thanks for thinking about it, i really hope you share your experience. I agree with you that religious organizations are like cults, they are more of political cults than a business cults. I am also aware that religious cults had been sustained for thousands of years through physical and spiritual treats, intimidation and even outright violence. But now things have changed, the religious cults are not the only source of information. There was a time all books were destroyed save religious texts, and the only book a person will ever read in their life was the bible. With the information age we can get information from numerous sources and most important of all, we can exchange information anonymously at will. So the possibility of religious organizations and their slave soldiers harming you is slim.

As you have rightly noted, religion and politics have collaborated throughout history to achieve one objective - control and exploitation of people's resources and minds. This is even more evident in societies with high levels of illiteracy. The more literate a society, the more difficult it would be for priests and politicians to exploit the masses.

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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Shollyps(m): 10:24pm On Apr 30, 2016
futarian...prayed at akindeko car park so many times as well.... but wasn't so deep into religion as you were ...
to know the place you mentioned makes the story to be more interesting.... contunu!!!...*grab chair....popcorn n orijin....*sit beside Johny......story dey sweet
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by HardMirror(m): 10:27pm On Apr 30, 2016
Shollyps:
futarian...prayed at akindeko car park so many times as well.... but wasn't so deep into religion as you were ...
to know the place you mentioned makes the story to be more interesting.... contunu!!!...*grab chair....popcorn n orijin....*sit beside Johny......story dey sweet
Great futarian. Glad to have you. Are you an alumni or still a student?

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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by OgundeleT(m): 10:27pm On Apr 30, 2016
nelsonoba:


Do I sound stressed to you? I'm certainly not! I don't belong to the class of some religious people who hate others and try to fight for their god. My God is not under any threat from you or anybody, He is God all by Himself, He doesn't need your approval of Him or your recognition of His sovereignty for Him to be God. What I feel is not stress, but great horror at the sight of what awaits you in eternity for the boldness to openly challenge the Almighty with the same brain and logical reasoning that He created and gave to you. One thing I know the devil for is the fact that he will use you and DUMP YOU! You are feeling cool with yourself because of the excess knowledge you think you have? Don't worry, God has seen and dealt with your type before, and your case is not new to Him. You will not be the first to deny Christ, and you will not be the last either, but like I said, by the time the devil is done using you and he feels he has no further need for your services, HE WILL DUMP YOU LIKE poo IS DUMPED IN A TOILET! By the time you find yourself after death in anguish and torment in hell and you see the same devil you are working for now being the one adding to your torment, you will swear and curse the day you denied Christ.

Like I said, I feel horror at what I know awaits you, not stress.
u wrote this long thrashes because somebody didn't believe your god and u said u are not stressed?

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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Shollyps(m): 10:35pm On Apr 30, 2016
HardMirror:

Great futarian. Glad to have you. Are you an alumni or still a student?
great!!!...a student...300level..I have close friends at ASF......
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by urahara(m): 10:36pm On Apr 30, 2016
cry

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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by HardMirror(m): 10:38pm On Apr 30, 2016
Shollyps:
great!!!...a student...300level..I have close friends at ASF......
That's great. A very good fellowship. Don't know how "hot" the fellowship is now. We infused penticostal doctrines into the fellowship.
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by HardMirror(m): 10:39pm On Apr 30, 2016
urahara:
cry
Lol Na wa o. May not post again this night. Will continue tomorrow
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Shollyps(m): 10:43pm On Apr 30, 2016
HardMirror:

That's great. A very good fellowship. Don't know how "hot" the fellowship is now. We infused penticostal doctrines into the fellowship.
lol....that's the pattern most of fellowship in futa follows.....Pentecostal like...

even ECWA student ministry that I attended n others is like that...speak in tongue ... n all that.......

federal university of theology... we dey cope sha...lol

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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by ValentineMary(m): 10:47pm On Apr 30, 2016
Nice one bro. Good to see open minded people. I was also once like u until I became an atheist.

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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by urahara(m): 10:47pm On Apr 30, 2016
kepstone:
Whoever wrote this please permit me to say u have totally written rubbish under d influence of satanic manipulation on ur mind. How dear you come out to say such about GOD and d grace he bestowed on you to serve his body. Watch brother, you are slipping gradually to a world of regret. I may not want to expose myself , to me what u have seen is nothing in your Christian walk. Do you know how much divinity was deployed to save humanity. See the devil does not care about you all he cares if for you to land in his coven eternally. Today I went to evangelize, and I was speaking to someone not to miss heaven cos hell will not be inevitable and its eternal. I pray that GOD restores you, I love him so much that nothing in this life will change my stands on him both want I know and what I don't know. If he chooses not to answer my prayers he his still my GOD, i f I never !ake money I won't deny him. I love him GOD.

undecided

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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Nobody: 10:49pm On Apr 30, 2016
HardMirror:
Remember this is a true life story, everything I say here is the absolute truth, only thing I have not revealed is my name, because I am still a legend in Anglican student fellowship till date, not just in futa but the whole state as I once held a state executive position.

I got to the room where she was (the president's room) there were 3 people praying for this sister. She was wringling on the floor like worm with salt poured on it. The prayer warriors were sweating and visibly tired. I got there sat down and bent over to hold her hands. Immediately I held her hand, she started screaming, but was still crying. She was behaving like someone with the spirit of pyton in her.
I started speaking in tongues. For about 30mins she was still wringling.
I shock her up, asked everybody to stop praying.
I commanded her to stop and open her eyes.
She obeyed. I asked her to seat on the other chair in the room. I could see surprise in her eyes. I repeated my instruction and she obey.
I told her whoever the spirit sets free is free indeed and God has told me she was free. That no matter what she tot, she is already free. I asked everyone to start praising God.

Now this case was peculiar. Why? I learnt something key that day. Once a human sees you as superhuman, they believe anything you tell them and people can be overwhelmed by the presences or words of people they think are directly linked with God.
If I kept praying she would have kept twisting on the floor. But I commanded the nonesense to stop and it stopped. This is not very far from how hypnotism works.
Your subject has to be highly impressionable.
This is most likely what TB joshua knows. Once you see him as an ordinary human, his words won't have any effect on you. But the moment you buy into the whole facade and open your mind to be impressionable, you will end up responding to everything such a man says and end up misbehaving

This is the funniest thing I have seen on here in a long time, a fantastic read and a true story to boot!

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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by urahara(m): 10:49pm On Apr 30, 2016
HardMirror:

Lol
Na wa o. May not post again this night. Will continue tomorrow

Kk grin
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by HardMirror(m): 10:49pm On Apr 30, 2016
Shollyps:
lol....that's the pattern most of fellowship in futa follows.....Pentecostal like...

even ECWA student ministry that I attended n others is like that...speak in tongue ... n all that.......

federal university of theology... we dey cope sha...lol

lol. JCCF is also to blame and pastors they invite. And then you have people like Rev Ogundare raising "gods generals" in his house at Apatapiti.
What are you studying?

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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Thebrightest(m): 10:54pm On Apr 30, 2016
OP please come and finish the story
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Nobody: 10:56pm On Apr 30, 2016
LoJ:
My bro SirWere,
We have been waiting for you on another topic you opened angry angry
Hope you are doing good smiley smiley
I troway salute.
Big Boss, I hail thee. cheesy
And I will get on the aforementioned topic...... tomorrow smileysmiley

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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Thebrightest(m): 10:57pm On Apr 30, 2016
HARD MIRROR WHERE ARE YOU? undecided

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