Vicoch:
What about this: Devil tried to bring a calamity upon him, and God asked him to fast so as to avert it...?

SenatePresdo:



As for God healing amputees, maybe this would help

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQnI4eoSvwo

Seun:
The calamity was caused by carelessness. The devil was not the one who failed to teach the boy to avoid roads. He was not the one who failed to install a jam lock on the gate so people won't forget to secure it. He was not the one who went to sleep knowing that there was no other person watching the toddler. And he was not the one who forgot to secure the gate.

One problem with religious thinking is that it causes us interpret our experiences incorrectly and thus to fail to figure out the real reasons for our problems so we can prevent them from happening again. Train your son. Install a jam lock. Never leave him unsupervised. Those are the real lessons of the story. But the OP probably thinks the lesson is to pray and fast more.

Seun:
The calamity was caused by carelessness. The devil was not the one who failed to teach the boy to avoid roads. He was not the one who failed to install a jam lock on the gate so people won't forget to secure it. He was not the one who went to sleep knowing that there was no other person watching the toddler. And he was not the one who forgot to secure the gate.

One problem with religious thinking is that it causes us interpret our experiences incorrectly and thus to fail to figure out the real reasons for our problems so we can prevent them from happening again. Train your son. Install a jam lock. Never leave him unsupervised. Those are the real lessons of the story. But the OP probably thinks the lesson is to pray and fast more.

HardMirror:

Hahahahahahaahahaahahahahahaha!!!!!
You did not even watch the video you posted here. Abeg go and watch it.
The video was even made by an atheist.
He spent the first 3 min building on a joke and when he got to 3minute 42 second of the video he revealed it was just an April fool prank. He spent the remaining 17 minutes of the video challenging christians to think.

I just wasted my mb watching a 20minutes of a video that was nothing but april fool.

stainlex:


You get patience o! I stopped at "miraculously healed by antibiotics"

Seun:
The calamity was caused by carelessness. The devil was not the one who failed to teach the boy to avoid roads. He was not the one who failed to install a jam lock on the gate so people won't forget to secure it. He was not the one who went to sleep knowing that there was no other person watching the toddler. And he was not the one who forgot to secure the gate.

One problem with religious thinking is that it causes us interpret our experiences incorrectly and thus to fail to figure out the real reasons for our problems so we can prevent them from happening again. Train your son. Install a jam lock. Never leave him unsupervised. Those are the real lessons of the story. But the OP probably thinks the lesson is to pray and fast more.

Seun:
The calamity was caused by carelessness. The devil was not the one who failed to teach the boy to avoid roads. He was not the one who failed to install a jam lock on the gate so people won't forget to secure it. He was not the one who went to sleep knowing that there was no other person watching the toddler. And he was not the one who forgot to secure the gate.

One problem with religious thinking is that it causes us interpret our experiences incorrectly and thus to fail to figure out the real reasons for our problems so we can prevent them from happening again. Train your son. Install a jam lock. Never leave him unsupervised. Those are the real lessons of the story. But the OP probably thinks the lesson is to pray and fast more.

HardMirror:

I enjoyed the video anyway. The guy just helped prove the ridiculousness of belief in such miracles.

HardMirror:

So what is the point in praying? If all has been predestined? What is the point in coming to give thanks that God saved his child?
Since you agree that multitude of people perish despite praying so why should the op come here asking us to explain his so called miracle.

Read what you just posted. It means there is no point asking God for anything.

SenatePresdo:


Yes, everything has been predestined.

But sometimes, evil people would try to manipulate your predestined life and try to bring some misfortunes that isn't in line with your destiny into your life.

But when we pray, such bad projection against your life/destiny by the evil people will be averted.

HardMirror:

Hahahahahahaahahaahahahahahaha!!!!!
You did not even watch the video you posted here. Abeg go and watch it.
The video was even made by an atheist.
He spent the first 3 min building on a joke and when he got to 3minute 42 second of the video he revealed it was just an April fool prank. He spent the remaining 17 minutes of the video challenging christians to think.

I just wasted my mb watching a 20minutes of a video that was nothing but april fool.

HardMirror:

You should be in the comedy business.
If God predestines anything, then evil people trying to change that destiny is all part of the predestination. You don't need prayers because the outcome has already been determined.
You are contradicting yourself.

SenatePresdo:

LOL.

Agreed I didn't watch the video, that was why I said maybe it would help, since you are hell bent on seeing God heal amputees.

So now that you are implying that God cannot heal amputees, what is your final conclusion on it?

HardMirror:

You should be in the comedy business.
If God predestines anything, then evil people trying to change that destiny is all part of the predestination. You don't need prayers because the outcome has already been determined.
You are contradicting yourself.

SenatePresdo:


I'm not contradicting myself.

That PRAYER you prayed that averted the evil projection, is also part of the Predestination.

HardMirror:

Thanks for the link. It inspired me to watch more amputee healing testimonies on youtube. All of them were scams.
You need to watch that video too. Very educating.

I am 100% sure God does not answer prayers.

SenatePresdo:


Haha!

And you claim to have been a pastor?
So as pastor, God never answered any of your prayers? And you really claimed to be a pastor? I guess you were fake.

God answers my own prayers, if he doesn't answer yours...

SenatePresdo:


Haha!

And you claim to have been a pastor?
So as pastor, God never answered any of your prayers? And you really claimed to be a pastor? I guess you were fake.

God answers my own prayers, if he doesn't answer yours...

SenatePresdo:


Haha!

And you claim to have been a pastor?
So as pastor, God never answered any of your prayers? And you really claimed to be a pastor? I guess you were fake.

God answers my own prayers, if he doesn't answer yours...

HardMirror:

I repeat, GOD HAS NEVER ANSWERED ANY PRAYERS. we only give god glory for things that happens coincidentally or by the efforts of people. If I pray to my bathroom slippers I will get testimonies too, because once a while my expectations will come true. Same with prayers to god.

4everGod1:


Epic

4everGod1:



How many times have you prayed to your bathroom slippers and got it answered? Give us one scenario. If you havent then what about your spoon or your plate or your toilet bowl or your television or your windows or your table.......or I forgot that you do not believe God answers any prayer which means you do not even believe in prayers so why the "if" you "pray" to your slippers talk?

Focus on what you believe in because obviously prayer isnt one of them. You are in a sorry state bro.

HardMirror:
No no no no I am not in a sorry state, you only wish I was in a sorry state. Too bad you can't determine my life.

Vicoch:





you really are in a sorry state......

Your arguments are baseless, but i believe you will one day drop atheism......
#peace
vicoch .

Seun:
God watched as this magic man magically killed your mum, and allowed it. God watched as he magically killed your sister and brother, and didn't stop it. God watched as he magically killed your dad, and said, no problem. God allowed the devil's magic to kill four people in your family despite the protection of the blood of Jesus, and the fervent prayers of his children in the name of Jesus at which every knee shall bow. The blood of the Lamb and the name of Jesus did not protect them despite what we've seen in Mike Bamiloye's videos. God had a better plan.

Instead of protecting his four children, God would let them die and grant the first born of the remaining orphans a hallucination/nightmare in which he would murder the magic man in spite of the biblical injunction "thou shalt not kill". Then God would carry out the murder for him.

Seun:
God watched as this magic man magically killed your mum, and allowed it. God watched as he magically killed your sister and brother, and didn't stop it. God watched as he magically killed your dad, and said, no problem. God allowed the devil's magic to kill four people in your family despite the protection of the blood of Jesus, and the fervent prayers of his children in the name of Jesus at which every knee shall bow. The blood of the Lamb and the name of Jesus did not protect them despite what we've seen in Mike Bamiloye's videos. God had a better plan.

Instead of protecting his four children, God would let them die and grant the first born of the remaining orphans a hallucination/nightmare in which he would murder the magic man in spite of the biblical injunction "thou shalt not kill". Then God would carry out the murder for him.

Sibrah:
What exactly is your point?

felixomor:


You have seen ur goof.


Saying that a person who is widely regarded as one of the fathers of quantum mechanics is "extremely wrong" about the subject itself when you yourself have not made any discovery on your own on the subject is a classical goof.

Swallow your pride and move on.

Seun:
His interpretation of what happened to him makes God look like an extremely incompetent protector. His story lacked relevant facts such as the medical conditions or accidents that were actually responsible for the death of his family members, so I can't provide a better explanation.