Kobojunkie:

I disagree. Change should not be about war or massive disruption. Those should come as a result of a move to change things, it should be not the first thought. Most of the adults have knowledge of when things were better in that country and not they currently hold that country hostage as they are the parents. If the parents are unwilling to stand up for what is right, how can the children, whose idea of what is right, and what is wrong, is from what they have collected over the years from watching their parents be expected to do the RIGHT thing?

This war for Change is not to be on the shoulders of our youths, most of whom are fighting to know who they really are in this world.

POSAKOSA1:

what don't you understand ?

POSAKOSA1:

When discussing change the wrong approach is to parallel children vs. parent.

Kobojunkie:


I disagree. When discussing change, if EVERYONE is not involved at some level, how long do you think this change will last?

soxy:

this one, wey ona no want even agree say people go chage, na waaaa oooo. Una neve even tire to the criticize? lets give everything a chance, even wen we criticize they still fail so make we try encourage small, even if we go still change. thats the first step to change!~!!!!!

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When discussing change the wrong approach is to parallel children vs. parent.

POSAKOSA1:

well, that was the point im trying to make. it should be a dichotomy between child vs. parent as you stated previously.

POSAKOSA1:

@ Afrocynic:

A Nonprofit's end result is different from the end goal of a corporation.

Nonprofits are dependent and accountable to their funders
Corporations simply want to make a profit.


As long as that goverment/society is conducive to their particular business climate corruption does not have to be related unless the "powers in play" expect it.

Kobojunkie:

Ok. I must have read you wrong then.

AfroCynic:




Dude, I am not going to bother with you, This explanation does not gel with your earlier point. I did not want you to give me a class in 'business practices' I wanted you to flesh out your point about different stake holders and the stake they hold, vis-a-vis Nigeria and its politics, Why is that hard to do?

POSAKOSA1:

Maybe if you tell me what you don't understand, I can explain further.

AfroCynic:

Nah do not worry, it seem that you are hell bent on using business as an example and I am finding it rather tedious,

Moving on,

POSAKOSA1:

I meant SHOULD NOT BE a dichotomy.

Kobojunkie:

Let me try to explain my point again. Change should be just be a call for YOUTHS but a call for ALL Nigerians, Adults AND Youths alike, to come to the rescue of the Nation. It is not a dichotomy, hence not PARENTS VS CHILDREN. But a call for PARENTS AND CHILDREN to step up to the plate for the good of all.

AfroCynic:

Nah do not worry, it seem that you are hell bent on using business as an example and I am finding it rather tedious, Moving on,

Rosabelle:



Corporations here or there. Stakeholders here or there. IF . . . .and I say IF in capital letters. IF nigerians decide today that our government work for us and no longer for Americans, it will happen.
Maybe not overnight. ANd maybe not to 90%. But a good 50% will do.
Its OUR country and OUR government.
And we have it in our hands and with our mouths to make that change.
I de go!

Kobojunkie:

@Rosabelle, you actually believe your government works for America?? Roflmao!!!!
The joke of the century!!!!

Rosabelle:

Who owns Chevron??
Not only do they work for the Americans. They also work for the french and the dutch . . . who owns Mobil??or Shell Petroleum
You laugh?
Have you been to Warri? Are you aware that and good 98% of Nigerias revenue is from the Delta??
You laugh?
Are you aware the bridges in Lagos and the city of Abuja (to name a few) were built from the money made by the Americans and dutch?
You laugh?  ? ? ? ? ?

Mr Posakosa spoke of the shareholders who wont allow a change in a developing nation like ours and thats what I was answering to. The corporate organisations who'd want the nation to stay in its present state for their own schemes.
Thats what Im refering to. So dont laugh until youve been to Ijaw and Itsekiri land. Dont laugh if you dont know.
And YES. The big American corporations  have a great stake in making sure A LOT of developing nations like ours dont move forward!
Its not a laughing matter.

Rosabelle:

Ou forefathers sold our right to our oil and our land to the white man ages ago for mirrors and powder and fine wrappers. Today, people cannot fish in their waters or plant crops in their backyards liek they used to. Or plant herbs that heal their ailments.
Their land is GONE. Sold to white men, whom our government has refused to call to book.
So WHO tell me, Mr Kobojunkie is our government working for? WHO?
Its our country and an interested government would have long since revoked those rights of land, or demanded a clear-up of the spillage going on.
Dont laugh.
I know what Im talking about and Ive see people suffer in a country full of wealth!

Kobojunkie:

The way you conspiracy theorists draw your conclusions never seizes to amaze me. Did you also research what portions of the mentioned companies your own government controls? That loans were obtained to build brigdes from particular countries who were at least willing to give the loans means your country WORKS for those countries? That, according to you, 98% of the revenue generated in Nigeria is from the delta is reason why Nigeria works for America So when the deal to sell these companies to the chinese works out, then you will change your tune to "NIGERIA IS WORKING FOR CHINA"? *** SHUDDERS****
and ***SHUDDERS *** AGAIN.
You really are a joker and this is definitely the joke of the century!!! Roflmao!!!