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Re: Presidency Reacts To Senate’s Rejection Of Buhari’s Plan To Borrow $30bn by Abeymills(m): 10:05pm On Nov 01, 2016
Buhari is a smart crook who thinks everybody is a fool like himself yeye govt

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Re: Presidency Reacts To Senate’s Rejection Of Buhari’s Plan To Borrow $30bn by ephi123(f): 10:09pm On Nov 01, 2016
Sibrah:
Was there no "next generation" when Jonathan was borrowing with high oil prices?



You have a point man . . . But then Buhari is still a far better option to the agbada-men in power today.

Sit down there still be blaming Jonathan.

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Re: Presidency Reacts To Senate’s Rejection Of Buhari’s Plan To Borrow $30bn by Sibrah: 10:10pm On Nov 01, 2016
greatjoey:


What could be wrong with the brains of our youth lately? Must everything be politicised? If Jonathan failed as we alleged, must we stay and watch Buhari do same? Fine, Jinathan's administration was engulfed with so much looting. This government made us believe so. The government also made us believed that a lot have been recovered from the looters of the past administration. Why borrow $29 bn when we have recovered so much from the alleged looters? Let's think and figure things out with our brains and not anus.
Did Jonathan borrow when the lengendary Abacha loot was being returned? If yes, why?

Talking about thinking and figuring out things with the anal brain, isn't it a standard practice for government to borrow to do projects in anticipation of future earnings that would offset the loans?
Re: Presidency Reacts To Senate’s Rejection Of Buhari’s Plan To Borrow $30bn by Dam5reey(m): 10:10pm On Nov 01, 2016
Nigeria and change na season film ...
2 years plus to watch the remaining.. episodes... grin

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Re: Presidency Reacts To Senate’s Rejection Of Buhari’s Plan To Borrow $30bn by Sibrah: 10:12pm On Nov 01, 2016
ephi123:


Sit down there still be blaming Jonathan.
I only flipped you own analogy against your hero. Don't be too pained bro . . .
Re: Presidency Reacts To Senate’s Rejection Of Buhari’s Plan To Borrow $30bn by obailala(m): 10:12pm On Nov 01, 2016
ehissi:
This is my analysis from a previous thread

The current Budget is #6.07trillion, you say you have a deficit of #2.2trillion - meaning, you have no idea how or you do not have the means to generate #2.2trillion.

Then you send a request to borrow $29.9billion - which is #9.06trillion at official rate Ooh, parallel market rate is over #14trillion - meanwhile there is no clear economic blueprint available to describe in detail how the cash will be utilised to get us out of this economic turbulance and you are expecting sane human beings to approve such foolishness......angry

If all you are looking for is #2.2trillion why borrow #9.06trillion?? After all, you told the world that you have recovered #3.64trillion from looters, what are you looking for loan for?

Meanwhile, his mumu minister of communications is asking for $550million to put a Satellite - abi na flash-drive - in Space for data storage. undecided

In my own opinion, Its this type of wastages, that they want to use to pay gbese for 2015 elections and recent elections in edo as well as upcoming elctions in ondo that they want to use a significant portion of that money for. And I am happy it wasn't approved.

[size=13pt]Except it is a lie, they should use the #3.64triilion recovered to fund budgetary deficit.......[/size]

I am not even talking about the monies that they claimed to have allegedly saved in billions from removing subsidy and from TSA and other things that Lai Mohammed, Amaechi and Vice President "Osunbade" have been presenting as facts to the media.

Does anyone even realise that the $29.9billion is even higher than our foreign reserves??

Nonsense and Ingredient..........angry


Plus!! The story on ground is that 2016 budget has hit 79% implementation. That #4.79trillion.

So what we need for 2016 is about #1.27trillion. Why borrow #9.06trillion??

The numbers don't add up. Buhari is hiding something. And why hasn't the auditor -general of the federation been appointed??

These people want to do abracadabra again Ooooo:!!
N3.64tr has been seized from people under investigation but that does not mean N3.64tr is disposable income available to the govt to spend especially when the cases are all still in court. And of course, before those protracted court cases come to an end (for the money to be available), the nation still needs to move forward. Meanwhile the official statement on the funds recovered was clear on this, actual cash recovered is less than N150bn total. We must learn to read beyond catchy headlines and read the true contents of reports, else we end up confusing ourselves. http://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2016/06/05/keeping-his-promise-buhari-announces-recovery-of-n3-4-trillion-in-one-year/

Plus!! The story on ground is that 2016 budget has hit 79% implementation. That #4.79trillion.
Once again, it's important that you read beyond the 'sweet' but misleading title of any report you come across. 79% was on a pro rata basis for the first 3 quarters of the year, so it's actually N3.6tr spent, not N4.79tr. Not that it matters though.

Finally, the planned borrowing isn't for 2016 budget, its for 2016 to 2018, the intention is to secure the loans early enough to prevent the same mess (delays) of 2016 reoccurring..

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Re: Presidency Reacts To Senate’s Rejection Of Buhari’s Plan To Borrow $30bn by Sibrah: 10:15pm On Nov 01, 2016
DabuIIIT:


which abacha loot,didnt ur hero buhari said "Abacha never stole a dime?"
hypocrite

no loan for the kill-and-divide systematic thief dullarpo..
Did Jonathan spend and re-loot this "imaginary" returned loot or not?
Re: Presidency Reacts To Senate’s Rejection Of Buhari’s Plan To Borrow $30bn by bikefab(m): 10:24pm On Nov 01, 2016
Buhari is looking for acheivements that will come easy. Just borrow $30bn, tarr roads, build bridges and railways, Take credit for all the infrastructures he'll build on loans which succesive govt of 3 generations might not be able to pay back. Then pack his loads and leave aso rock by 2019. People r wicked o.

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Re: Presidency Reacts To Senate’s Rejection Of Buhari’s Plan To Borrow $30bn by MrMoRitz: 10:24pm On Nov 01, 2016
Our politicians go sell this Nigeria one day or use the country take borrow money with us inside as collateral

《《 SINCE THE 180MILLION NIGERIANS NEVER WAN GREE WISE 》》

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Re: Presidency Reacts To Senate’s Rejection Of Buhari’s Plan To Borrow $30bn by tiwiex(m): 10:27pm On Nov 01, 2016
biaframustcome:
Buhari want to borrow money, the question is where is the economic plan, where is the blueprint?
We shouldn't be surprised. He thought this job na joke. Na serious job. He would have appointed qualified people who know the stuff but i stuck to medicres. If they can't prepare a robust proposal and plan to request for this money, how will they manage it? We are in deep poo. Please senate should not approve anything. He spent a whole year chasing shadows and wrecking the economy. Now he wants an awoof life line. So what exactly are the achievements? He keeps listening to praise singers who say he is the new Sherrif in town. See am now.

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Re: Presidency Reacts To Senate’s Rejection Of Buhari’s Plan To Borrow $30bn by tiwiex(m): 10:30pm On Nov 01, 2016
ballbearing:
Don't u think it's a subtle plan for APC's continuity beyond 2019 if the money is eventually given? They would tell you to vote APC to finish the 'on-going projects' grin grin
No mind them. 2019 is not far. No need to borrow jare.

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Re: Presidency Reacts To Senate’s Rejection Of Buhari’s Plan To Borrow $30bn by Sibrah: 10:31pm On Nov 01, 2016
GodIsFoolish:



mumu, where is SE mentioned there? you think anybody who criticizes the president is from SE?
There is a thread for that already.
Re: Presidency Reacts To Senate’s Rejection Of Buhari’s Plan To Borrow $30bn by Danpotter(m): 10:32pm On Nov 01, 2016
What about the N600b he borrowed from china, the recovered loots , can the ass account for any capital project, but he has done well in ruining the education sector, bastardizing the naira , pushed Nigerians to famine, massive loss of jobs. Now becomes he feels his an emperor he wants to take a loan running in trillions, when his old ass will be in the grave before its payable.

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Re: Presidency Reacts To Senate’s Rejection Of Buhari’s Plan To Borrow $30bn by Nobody: 10:32pm On Nov 01, 2016
Buhari is an idio.t.

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Re: Presidency Reacts To Senate’s Rejection Of Buhari’s Plan To Borrow $30bn by solaere(m): 10:32pm On Nov 01, 2016
RiP to Sanni Abacha nd our own dear Umaru Musa Yar'aduah
Re: Presidency Reacts To Senate’s Rejection Of Buhari’s Plan To Borrow $30bn by jide333(m): 10:38pm On Nov 01, 2016
Am i the only one thinking about why our so called FEDs wants to borrow $30b? what happened to the money they claimed they recovered from the looters? what happened to the ones Koro returned? Or is it fake news all this while? you mean we don't even have up to $100b in our Nigeria account? God help us, Amin!

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Re: Presidency Reacts To Senate’s Rejection Of Buhari’s Plan To Borrow $30bn by 12inchDickson: 10:40pm On Nov 01, 2016
Very soon Nigeria won't be on the world map, Damn..

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Re: Presidency Reacts To Senate’s Rejection Of Buhari’s Plan To Borrow $30bn by drss2(m): 10:40pm On Nov 01, 2016
bikefab:
Buhari is looking for acheivements that will come easy. Just borrow $30bn, tarr roads, build bridges and railways, Take credit for all the infrastructures he'll build on loans which succesive govt of 3 generations might not be able to pay back. Then pack his loads and leave aso rock by 2019. People r wicked o.
grin grin grin

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Re: Presidency Reacts To Senate’s Rejection Of Buhari’s Plan To Borrow $30bn by slivertongue: 11:03pm On Nov 01, 2016
"the presidency said Tuesday, that it would
provide the Senate with the needed
information"

And this govt wants Nigerians to trust them. how come the loan has no plans? Nigeria is in the hands of jobbers. with all the noise about having the best hands, no concrete document was tendered to convince the senate.

they will return with a document like the 2016 budget.
Lord what did we do to deserve this punshment?

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Re: Presidency Reacts To Senate’s Rejection Of Buhari’s Plan To Borrow $30bn by ephi123(f): 11:14pm On Nov 01, 2016
Sibrah:
I only flipped you own analogy against your hero. Don't be too pained bro . . .

No one is my hero, least of all Jonathan. Focus on the topic which is about your lord and master borrowing ridiculous amounts of money.

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Re: Presidency Reacts To Senate’s Rejection Of Buhari’s Plan To Borrow $30bn by ephi123(f): 11:15pm On Nov 01, 2016
Danpotter:
What about the N600b he borrowed from china, the recovered loots , can the ass account for any capital project, but he has done well in ruining the education sector, bastardizing the naira , pushed Nigerians to famine, massive loss of jobs. Now becomes he feels his an emperor he wants to take a loan running in trillions, when his old ass will be in the grave before its payable.

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Re: Presidency Reacts To Senate’s Rejection Of Buhari’s Plan To Borrow $30bn by ephi123(f): 11:17pm On Nov 01, 2016
egbonnla:
We should genuinely be worried about the lackadaisical attitude of this administration. What manner of a government will present request to borrow $29.9billion to the senate without attaching blue prints on how the money will be spent?

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Re: Presidency Reacts To Senate’s Rejection Of Buhari’s Plan To Borrow $30bn by Sibrah: 11:18pm On Nov 01, 2016
ephi123:


No one is my hero, least of all Jonathan. Focus on the topic which is about your lord and master borrowing ridiculous amounts of money.
Ridiculous borrowing is when oil sells for $120+pb, benchmark is $78pb and there is borrowing. Get it?
Re: Presidency Reacts To Senate’s Rejection Of Buhari’s Plan To Borrow $30bn by ephi123(f): 11:22pm On Nov 01, 2016
Sibrah:
Ridiculous borrowing is when oil sells for $120+pb, benchmark is $78pb and there is borrowing. Get it?

Hehehe, you are still at this bus stop of wailing "when crude was $120 yen yen yen". Bros, the bus has passed, crude is now $48, deal with it! And if Buhari knows he is not capable let him step down. Leadership is not by force.

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Re: Presidency Reacts To Senate’s Rejection Of Buhari’s Plan To Borrow $30bn by ehissi(m): 11:31pm On Nov 01, 2016
obailala:

N3.64tr has been seized from people under investigation but that does not mean N3.64tr is disposable income available to the govt to spend especially when the cases are all still in court. And of course, before those protracted court cases come to an end (for the money to be available), the nation still needs to move forward. Meanwhile the official statement on the funds recovered was clear on this, actual cash recovered is less than N150bn total. We must learn to read beyond catchy headlines and read the true contents of reports, else we end up confusing ourselves. http://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2016/06/05/keeping-his-promise-buhari-announces-recovery-of-n3-4-trillion-in-one-year/

Once again, it's important that you read beyond the 'sweet' but misleading title of any report you come across. 79% was on a pro rata basis for the first 3 quarters of the year, so it's actually N3.6tr spent, not N4.79tr. Not that it matters though.

Finally, the planned borrowing isn't for 2016 budget, its for 2016 to 2018, the intention is to secure the loans early enough to prevent the same mess (delays) of 2016 reoccurring..

Chairman!! You can lie for africa sha!!!

The people that want to borrow, say they are doing it for to fund infrastructure deficit.

You come dey add 2018 budget, whey no even dey set.

Meaning, 2018 budget draft has already been set??

Abi is this Lai Mohammed!!??

Government said they have recovered #3.64trillion in cash/assets, you dey talk your own village parade.

By your own assertion the government lied and no recovery was made, because if the investigations turn no solid leads or they lose the court cases; then they will most likely return such seized cash/assets

I tire for you Oooh. In any case, in the absence of an auditor general, all Buhari's moves to seek loan cannot sail through.

Due process requires his/her approval, common sense demands that a loan with no clear cut details on implementation nor repayment plan should be bounced.

Thank God for a living National assembly....

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Re: Presidency Reacts To Senate’s Rejection Of Buhari’s Plan To Borrow $30bn by davibid: 11:32pm On Nov 01, 2016
undecided

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Re: Presidency Reacts To Senate’s Rejection Of Buhari’s Plan To Borrow $30bn by Yahami(m): 11:44pm On Nov 01, 2016
lielbree:
Thank God for the Senate!

God punish the mallam daura cartel

Sorry to say you say thank God for our Senate you said, let us wait and see if they can really reject buhari's request... Who get liver for that Senate they just rejected if for lack of detail and by the time you heard the said propose borrowing has been approved don't be surprised!!! I think you and I should be able to predict our country by now
Re: Presidency Reacts To Senate’s Rejection Of Buhari’s Plan To Borrow $30bn by obailala(m): 11:45pm On Nov 01, 2016
ehissi:


Chairman!! You can lie for africa sha!!!

The people that want to borrow, say they are doing it for to fund infrastructure deficit.

You come dey add 2018 budget, whey no even dey set.

Meaning, 2018 budget draft has already been set??

Abi is this Lai Mohammed!!??

Government said they have recovered #3.64trillion in cash/assets, you dey talk your own village parade.

By your own assertion the government lied and no recovery was made, because if the investigations turn no solid leads or they lose the court cases; then they will most likely return such seized cash/assets

I tire for you Oooh. In any case, in the absence of an auditor general, all Buhari's moves to seek loan cannot sail through.

Due process requires his/her approval, common sense demands that a loan with no clear cut details on implementation nor repayment plan should be bounced.

Thank God for a living National assembly....
I sent you a link to read but you obviously ignored it. Also, for you not to be aware that the planned borrowing is for 2016-2018, this is another evidence that you have refused to read. Apparently you are either incapable of reading or comprehending, or you just prefer being ignorant for the fun of it. Whatever the case, there is no point conversing further with someone who has chosen to be ignorant.
Re: Presidency Reacts To Senate’s Rejection Of Buhari’s Plan To Borrow $30bn by Nobody: 12:09am On Nov 02, 2016
Sibrah:
To do what jonathan did with the debt he left us . . .



Please tell me, Was there no Abacha loot when Jonathan was busy borrowing? Keep the hate going pls . . .




I thought some persons claimed the SE was excluded from the projects the loan was being prepared for. If the details of the loan isn't known, how did the SE conclude that the projects doesn't include them?
Maybe the govt should prepare a Bill of Quantity (BoQ) detailing things like cements, nail, gravel and labour for the wailing senate.
Please read the post. Even the Adviser to the president admitted the error of the presidency. Why are you crying more than the bereaved?

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Re: Presidency Reacts To Senate’s Rejection Of Buhari’s Plan To Borrow $30bn by Semper247(m): 12:10am On Nov 02, 2016
Why will they approve it when they are no longer carried along on how to share it...

How long did it take them to approve gej's 1b dollars?

Bunch of thieves
Re: Presidency Reacts To Senate’s Rejection Of Buhari’s Plan To Borrow $30bn by Sibrah: 12:11am On Nov 02, 2016
egbonnla:
Please read the post. Even the Adviser to the president admitted the error of the presidency. Why are you crying more than the bereaved?
Wailer . . .

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