And u are a slowpoke for thinking negatively

@abuzola, THIS IS ANOTHER ONE SO THAT YOU CAN REASON IT OUT WITH YOUR MIND AND YOUR BEST SCHOLARS AROUND YOU SO THAT YOU CAN KNOW THE TRUTH ,THIS IS IT, ANGEL GABRI-(EL ) WORD IN BRACKET MEAN GOD THAT WORD TOTALLY MEAN "GOD STRENGTH" BUT IN ARABIAN IT CALLED JIBR(IL) DID IT HAS ANOTHER MEANING IN ARABIAN?, THE WORD IN BRACKET SIMPLY MEAN ALMIGHTY GOD SO PLEASE WHERE IS ALLAH IN THAT WORD.OPEN YOUR MIND AND SEE LIGHT.

@allmuslims, ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS, 1) EES-MA-(EL) FOR HEBREW LANGUAGE,ISH-MA-(EL) FOR THE ENGLISH,AND IS-MA-(IL) THOSE IN BRACKET MEANS GOD, THEN TELL ME WHERE IS ALLAH IN THOSE WORDS IF YOUR MOHAMAD CLAIMED ALLAH TO BE SUPREME MASTER AND CREATOR.SECOND QUESTIONS IS THIS 2), (ILAH)U ABAINA means WHAT and THIS , IBNU L(ILAH) means WHAT. DO YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE GOD . THROUGH THAT QUESTION S YOU WILL KNOW WHO YOU ARE SERVING. looking for a contractions in book can't make you see the light until you reasons withing yourself about the questions setting above . ANSWER THAT IF YOUR ALLAH IS REAL

I think you are the failure, Allah does not ve a son, Do you know that Azeez, Gafar, malik, auwal , akhiru, etc are names of Allah. Educating you on isma'il is a gabbage because you do not know arabic. Go and learn it first

@abuzola, LOOK NONE ON HERE IS A KID ANSWER THAT QUESTION OKAY , MALIK OR GEFAR WHAT I KNOW IS THAT YOU CLAIM THAT ALLAH IS ALMIGHTY GOD BUT FROM THE NAME GIVEN THROUGH THE NAME OF GOD i can't find allah SO FOR YOUR CORRECTION MALIK AND OTHERS IS A NAME GIVEN TO YOUR ALLAH ACCORDING IT'S MAGNIFICENT CLAIMED BY WANNABE PROPHET LIKE THESE, El Elohe Israel (”God, the God of Israel”)

El Gibbor (”Hero God”), BUT YOU CAN STILL SEE WORD (EL) SHOWING THEY ARE STILL REFERRING TO GOD , SO ANSWER THAT QUESTION , WHERE IS ALLAH IN THOSE WORDS POSTED BEFORE SIMPLE NOT BY GIVING ME THE ALIAS OF ALLAH OKAY

@abuzola,NOTHING IS BAD IF YOU CAN ADMIT THAT ALLAH IS JUST god OKAY THEN IF YOU SAY THAT DOES HAVE A SON WHAT ABOUT DAUGHTERS, ALLAT, MANAT AND UZZA WHO ARE THOSE ,AH AH AH SEE THIS MAN YOU HAVE NOT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT JIBR-(IL) SO IL IN THAT STAND FOR WHAT.

Show me ur proof that Allah has children like the christian god and i will refute it using the Quran or shut up

I think we have always maintained on this forum that YHWH and allah are not the same, allah is an arabian idol as opposed to YHWH, the supreme beign.

@abuzola,NOTHING IS BAD IF YOU CAN ADMIT THAT ALLAH IS JUST god OKAY THEN IF YOU SAY THAT DOES HAVE A SON WHAT ABOUT DAUGHTERS, ALLAT, MANAT AND UZZA WHO ARE THOSE ,AH AH AH SEE THIS MAN YOU HAVE NOT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT JIBR-(IL) SO IL IN THAT STAND FOR WHAT, then what who are those name mentioned above mant,allat or uzza. and answer me about JIBR-(IL) NOW AM REVEALING THE TRUE NATURE OF ALLAH NOW

Why do you love circumabulating round a simple iota, i asked u to produce ur proof yet you resurgitate ur former statement. Poor people

@abuzola, MR IMAM , ANSWER THE QUESTION I ASKED ABOUT THE WORD "EL"AND "IL OKAY I THOUGHT YOU SAID YOU WERE ARABIC GRADUATE SO PLEASE EXPLAIN , I THINK WE DON'T NEED ANY PROOF ON THAT BUT AN EXAMPLE , BY YOU SAYING POOR . NORTHERNERS REMAINING THE MOST POOREST PEOPLE IN NIGERIAN WITH HIGHEST RATE INFECTED DISEASES WITH HIGHEST NUMBER IN HANDICAPS IN DIFFERENT STYLES I PITY YOU WHAY ALLAH IS BUSSY IN IT'S PARADISE WITH 7200VIRGINS AND ENOUGH SHAYOOOOOOOOOOOOO. IT DOES NOT HAVE TIME FOR IT'S SLAVES OKAY . COMPARE THE RATE POVERTY IN NORTHERN PART OF YOUR COUNTRY TO OTHER PART OF THE COUNTRY AND SEE WHAT AM SAYING . THINK.

Go to makaranta and stop disturbing me

[exits thread kissing it goodbye]

Go to hell

[size=13pt]Why, when you read the Bible, are you not left in awe? For example, look though this small collection of Bible verses:
<sup>* Deut 25:11-12
* Genesis 38:8-10
* Deut 21:18-21
* Ex 35:2
*Lev 20:13
*Isaiah 13:13-16
* Exodus 21:20-21
* 1 Tim 2:11-12
*Col 3:22-23
*Luke 14:26
* Deut 22:13-21
*Isaiah 40:8</sup>

These verses feel like utter nonsense, don't they? We can find thousands of verses like these in the Bible.

So we are forced to ask a question: Why doesn't a book written by God leave you with a sense of wonder and amazement? If you are reading a book written by the all-powerful, all-knowing, all-loving creator of the universe, wouldn't you expect to be stunned by the brilliance, the clarity and the wisdom of the author? Would you not expect each new page to intoxicate you with its incredible prose and its spectacular insight?

Instead, opening the Bible inevitably creates a feeling of dumbfoundment. Have you ever noticed that? Instead of brilliance, much of the Bible contains nonsense. But they are just the tip of the iceberg. You can open the Bible to almost any page and find nonsense instead of wisdom.
Why, in other words, is the Bible so useless? Why does the author of the Bible, who is supposed to be God, who is supposed to be all-knowing, know so little? Why is the knowledge of the author limited to the knowledge of the primitive men who wrote the book? If you think about what you are reading in the Bible in the context of an all-knowing God who supposedly wrote it, none of it makes any sense.

The reason is because God is imaginary. "God" had nothing to do with the Bible. The Bible was written by primitive men, many of who were obviously insane. [/size]

[size=16pt]To FOOLS and DOGS, the Holy Bible shall NEVER and will NEVER Make sense to Them FOREVER & EVERLASTING./[/size]

pls read the book of Revelation,if the Bible does not make sense to you.The time is near

[size=13pt]Dear Believer:

I do not accept the Bible as God’s word because it contains thousand of errancies and contradictions that can not be solved, only rationalized. I refuse to accept Jesus as my personal savior, for his behavior and teachings often expose one who should be escaped and not worshipped. I ask that you read this pamphlet in light of the bible’s teachings; Christians should be “open to reason” (James 3:17 ), that we should “reason together ” (Isaiah 1:18) and “he who hates correction will die” (Proverbs 15:10) to understand my perspective that the bible has MANY shortcomings.

1. According to your Bible I am to believe that human kind is sinful for Adam and Eve ate the fruit of knowledge. Why are we being punished for the original sin? After all, they ate the forbidden fruit, we didn’t. Reason would lead one to say it’s their problem, not ours. Even the bible contradicts itself by claiming in Deuteronomy 24:16, “children shall not be punished for the sins of their fathers.”

2. We are told that the Bible has no scientific errors and is utterly perfect/protected, yet it says the bat is a bird (Leviticus 11:13 & 19), hares chew the cud (Leviticus 11:5-6), and some fowl (Leviticus 11:20-21) and insects (Leviticus 11:22-23) have four legs.

3. sayso [/b]you requested me to read the Book of Revelation of the Christians bible, Heaven is supposed to be a perfect place. It is of course, the place you strive for and name “salvation”. Yet, it experienced a war [b](Revelation 12:7). How can there be a war in a perfect place and if it happened before why couldn’t it happen again? Why would I want to go to a place in which war can occur? That’s exactly what I’m trying to escape, aren’t you?

4. We are told salvation is obtained by faith alone (John 3:18 & 36) and then the Bible claims that it is repentance that shall save us (2 Peter 3:9) yet Jesus told a man to follow the Commandments-Matthew 19:16-1 8 (saving by works)-if he wanted eternal life. So which way is it and how do you know your belief is the correct one?

5. According to the text there are 29 cities listed in Joshua 15:21-32. One need only count them to see that biblical math is not to be trusted. The total is 36.

6. Surely you don’t believe Ecclesiastes 1:9 (“What has been is what will be, and what has been done is what will be done; there is nothing new under the sun”)? How many cities had an atomic bomb dropped on them prior to 1945, and how many people walked on the moon before 1969?

7. If the Bible is our moral guide, then how can it make pornographic statements such as: “. . . . they may eat their own dung and drink their own piss with you” (2 Kings 18:27)? Also consult Numbers 31 where a whole tribe of people, including the elderly and children are slaughtered. The only survivors were the virginal women, who were later raped by the “just and perfect” Moses and his men. Is that what you want your children reading on Sunday?

8. If God created everything, (Colossians 1:16, Ephesians 3:9, Revelation 4:11 & John 1:3), then he did create the world’s evil (Isaiah 45:7, Lamentations 3:38). Thus, he is responsible!. Any being who could create situations such as rape, death, malnutrition, disease, molestation and murder is certainly not fit for worship.

9. For justice to exist, punishment must fit the crime. No matter how many bad deeds one commits in this world, there is a limit. Yet, hell’s punishment is infinitely greater. It’s eternal. Shouldn’t a sinner suffer until remorse is felt and the crime is atoned for? What “justice” is there in infinite damnation?

10. Maykelly you Claim to be a Christian Woman while busy Calling me a Fool always but you fail to know what Jesus said according to the bible, “whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire” (Matthew 5:22). Yet, he himself did so repeatedly, as Matthew 27:19, Luke 11:40 & 12:20 show. Shouldn’t he be in danger of hell too? Jesus also told us to “Love your enemies; bless them that curse you," but ignored his own advice by repeatedly denouncing his opposition. Matthew 12:34 (“0 generation of vipers”), and Matthew 23 :27 (“. . . . . hypocrites. . . . . ye are like unto whited sepulchres.“) are excellent examples of hypocrisy. If Jesus himself is a sinner by his own admission then surely he can not be the “perfect lamb of god”.

11. Except those of biased Christian writers, there is no one writing outside the Bible in all of ancient history that clearly refers to Jesus of Nazareth. The decision to dedicate my life to a deity requires at least one shred of conclusive evidence. Your lord knows non believers exist as a result of this, yet he makes no attempt to supply proof. How can the bible claim god wants all in heaven if he doesn’t make efforts to ensure that we all believe in him?

12. Paul says Christianity lives or dies on the Resurrection (1 Corinthians 15:14-17). Yet Jesus made many promises concerning his return during the lifetime of his then followers. (Matthew 16:28: “There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom”. Matthew 23:36, 24:34, Mark.9:1, 13:30, Luke 9:27, 21:32 & John 21:22) None of these prophecies have come true. Does this not make Jesus a false prophet? If so wouldn’t that make Christianity invalid?

13. I find the idea that a man had to die for my sins revolting. If God was truly omnipotent he could have simply forgiven us. What kind of deity, would execute one child in order to forgive it’s others? Modern society would call an individual like this sadistic, insane and cruel. Surely, you would not worship a child killer, why do you expect me to? Would you find a judge worthy of the title who would allow my child to be executed in lieu of my sins?

14. John 14:12 states a follower in Jesus can perform any of his works and do it even greater. If you continue to insist I believe in Jesus, it is only fair I may ask of you to show just how strong your faith is. After all, you would be my “mentor” in Christ. I’m not a believer as of yet, but surely you are. Would you mind perhaps resurrecting a dead relative or walking on water?

15. Okay, obviously you didn’t do number 14 and backed out with the “this is metaphorical” excuse. Surely you can try Mark 16:17-1 8 which says believers can drink “any deadly thing” and “it shall not hurt” them. But I don’t think you would be naive enough to drink any arsenic offered. Perhaps I’m wrong and you would be willing to test the Book’s veracity-”lay it on the line” so to speak?

16. All right, so now you have backed out of two of my questions. I’m starting to think you don’t really care about my salvation as much as you claim. Well, unlike your Jehovah, I shall be kind and offer a third chance at redemption. Consider Jesus’ teaching in Luke 6:30 “Give to every man that asketh of thee; and of him that taketh away thy goods ask them not again.” Perhaps, if you emptied your wallet and “give of thee” I may seriously ponder accepting Jesus as my savior. [/size]

[size=13pt]Wanderer like you, you don’t have a destination, No VISION and No PURPOSE in Life.

Have you ever seen a wanderer preaching the Gospel to anointed of MOST HIGH GOD?

You're a confused person and a wanderer,

WORD OF GOD, Tested and Trusted! [/size]

[size=13pt]Maykelly honestly speaking i have nothing, i mean a PIN that confussed my mind in this world , Im a Traveller and i think i have never suffer to visit any country i like to visit . and hope you do know there is diferent between " Traveller and Wanderer?" then you should know. . . .

We are told to accept that Jesus existed based upon the ^{Gospels of the Bible}, yet the Gospels are so poorly written that a logical person is at best left to ponder if Jesus even existed. The Gospels are consistently contradictive, filled with mathematic errors and don’t compliment each other on very important details.


Maykelly i sugest its time you begin sharing maturedly with me. . . or very soon you shall know NAIRALANDERS have learn't something about you.
[/size]

[size=13pt]No destination, No VISION and No PURPOSE in Life.[/size]

[size=13pt]Topic

I mean Why would Jesus not do that? God, supposedly, has already written a book called the Bible. And God, supposedly, has already done all sorts of things according to that book. God, supposedly, parted the Red Sea, carved the Ten Commandments into stone, went to the trouble to incarnate himself, etc. So why not have Jesus write a book, and leave behind real, tangible evidence for all of us to see?

For any normal, rational person, the reason is obvious -- God is imaginary. We would not believe that anyone today is God without concrete proof. Jesus doesn't get a pass because he lived 2,000 years ago. Jesus, if he existed at all, was a human being just like you and me. All of the stories in the Bible are just that -- stories. [/size]

Ogaga4Luv:

[size=13pt]Dear Believer:

I do not accept the Bible as God’s word because it contains thousand of errancies and contradictions that can not be solved, only rationalized. I refuse to accept Jesus as my personal savior, for his behavior and teachings often expose one who should be escaped and not worshipped. I ask that you read this pamphlet in light of the bible’s teachings; Christians should be “open to reason” (James 3:17 ), that we should “reason together ” (Isaiah 1:18) and “he who hates correction will die” (Proverbs 15:10) to understand my perspective that the bible has MANY shortcomings.

1. According to your Bible I am to believe that human kind is sinful for Adam and Eve ate the fruit of knowledge. Why are we being punished for the original sin? After all, they ate the forbidden fruit, we didn’t. Reason would lead one to say it’s their problem, not ours. Even the bible contradicts itself by claiming in Deuteronomy 24:16, “children shall not be punished for the sins of their fathers.”

2. We are told that the Bible has no scientific errors and is utterly perfect/protected, yet it says the bat is a bird (Leviticus 11:13 & 19), hares chew the cud (Leviticus 11:5-6), and some fowl (Leviticus 11:20-21) and insects (Leviticus 11:22-23) have four legs.

3. sayso [/b]you requested me to read the Book of Revelation of the Christians bible, Heaven is supposed to be a perfect place. It is of course, the place you strive for and name “salvation”. Yet, it experienced a war [b](Revelation 12:7). How can there be a war in a perfect place and if it happened before why couldn’t it happen again? Why would I want to go to a place in which war can occur? That’s exactly what I’m trying to escape, aren’t you?

4. We are told salvation is obtained by faith alone (John 3:18 & 36) and then the Bible claims that it is repentance that shall save us (2 Peter 3:9) yet Jesus told a man to follow the Commandments-Matthew 19:16-1 8 (saving by works)-if he wanted eternal life. So which way is it and how do you know your belief is the correct one?

5. According to the text there are 29 cities listed in Joshua 15:21-32. One need only count them to see that biblical math is not to be trusted. The total is 36.

6. Surely you don’t believe Ecclesiastes 1:9 (“What has been is what will be, and what has been done is what will be done; there is nothing new under the sun”)? How many cities had an atomic bomb dropped on them prior to 1945, and how many people walked on the moon before 1969?

7. If the Bible is our moral guide, then how can it make pornographic statements such as: “. . . . they may eat their own dung and drink their own piss with you” (2 Kings 18:27)? Also consult Numbers 31 where a whole tribe of people, including the elderly and children are slaughtered. The only survivors were the virginal women, who were later raped by the “just and perfect” Moses and his men. Is that what you want your children reading on Sunday?

8. If God created everything, (Colossians 1:16, Ephesians 3:9, Revelation 4:11 & John 1:3), then he did create the world’s evil (Isaiah 45:7, Lamentations 3:38). Thus, he is responsible!. Any being who could create situations such as rape, death, malnutrition, disease, molestation and murder is certainly not fit for worship.

9. For justice to exist, punishment must fit the crime. No matter how many bad deeds one commits in this world, there is a limit. Yet, hell’s punishment is infinitely greater. It’s eternal. Shouldn’t a sinner suffer until remorse is felt and the crime is atoned for? What “justice” is there in infinite damnation?

10. Maykelly you Claim to be a Christian Woman while busy Calling me a Fool always but you fail to know what Jesus said according to the bible, “whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire” (Matthew 5:22). Yet, he himself did so repeatedly, as Matthew 27:19, Luke 11:40 & 12:20 show. Shouldn’t he be in danger of hell too? Jesus also told us to “Love your enemies; bless them that curse you," but ignored his own advice by repeatedly denouncing his opposition. Matthew 12:34 (“0 generation of vipers”), and Matthew 23 :27 (“. . . . . hypocrites. . . . . ye are like unto whited sepulchres.“) are excellent examples of hypocrisy. If Jesus himself is a sinner by his own admission then surely he can not be the “perfect lamb of god”.

11. Except those of biased Christian writers, there is no one writing outside the Bible in all of ancient history that clearly refers to Jesus of Nazareth. The decision to dedicate my life to a deity requires at least one shred of conclusive evidence. Your lord knows non believers exist as a result of this, yet he makes no attempt to supply proof. How can the bible claim god wants all in heaven if he doesn’t make efforts to ensure that we all believe in him?

12. Paul says Christianity lives or dies on the Resurrection (1 Corinthians 15:14-17). Yet Jesus made many promises concerning his return during the lifetime of his then followers. (Matthew 16:28: “There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom”. Matthew 23:36, 24:34, Mark.9:1, 13:30, Luke 9:27, 21:32 & John 21:22) None of these prophecies have come true. Does this not make Jesus a false prophet? If so wouldn’t that make Christianity invalid?

13. I find the idea that a man had to die for my sins revolting. If God was truly omnipotent he could have simply forgiven us. What kind of deity, would execute one child in order to forgive it’s others? Modern society would call an individual like this sadistic, insane and cruel. Surely, you would not worship a child killer, why do you expect me to? Would you find a judge worthy of the title who would allow my child to be executed in lieu of my sins?

14. John 14:12 states a follower in Jesus can perform any of his works and do it even greater. If you continue to insist I believe in Jesus, it is only fair I may ask of you to show just how strong your faith is. After all, you would be my “mentor” in Christ. I’m not a believer as of yet, but surely you are. Would you mind perhaps resurrecting a dead relative or walking on water?

15. Okay, obviously you didn’t do number 14 and backed out with the “this is metaphorical” excuse. Surely you can try Mark 16:17-1 8 which says believers can drink “any deadly thing” and “it shall not hurt” them. But I don’t think you would be naive enough to drink any arsenic offered. Perhaps I’m wrong and you would be willing to test the Book’s veracity-”lay it on the line” so to speak?

16. All right, so now you have backed out of two of my questions. I’m starting to think you don’t really care about my salvation as much as you claim. Well, unlike your Jehovah, I shall be kind and offer a third chance at redemption. Consider Jesus’ teaching in Luke 6:30 “Give to every man that asketh of thee; and of him that taketh away thy goods ask them not again.” Perhaps, if you emptied your wallet and “give of thee” I may seriously ponder accepting Jesus as my savior. [/size]

Bros, you are on point.

@Mazaje

I too gbadun your posts

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Re: Honestly, Does D Bible Make Sense 2 U?
« #64 on: November 04, 2009, 03:31 PM »
I’m Tired of this entire gimmick
3 11 2009

Putting pen to paper for this …Oh My God. I’m tired of thinking thoughts that can’t be expressed or can be expressed but I’ve not yet expressed. I ‘m tired of thinking someone would take offense and label me a devil’s advocate. I’m tired of fearing man when there is a God. I’m tired of hearing that God exists in 3 pieces of physical states-one unseen and unfelt, one seen and felt; and the last unseen but felt. I’m tired of thinking my Maths is bad, or is 1+1+1=1? I’m tired. Somebody help! I’m tired of celebrating festivities deeply rooted in paganism and idolatry. I’m tired of asking questions and being told to just believe. I’m tired!

I’m tired of going to a place of worship where all I see is naked thighs and breasts. I’m tired of sexy girls visiting us in the hostels on the excuse of visitations. I’m tired of three fellowships claiming to have the same message slugging it out at the Angola car park on who has the loudest sound systems. I’m tired of paying tithe out of the #1,200 I collect from home. I’m tired of winning souls for Christ through fornication and immoral relationships.

I’m tired of the gospel comic series about the pastor who heals all things even when all those healed are unknown and those known still walk the streets blind, deaf, dumb and crippled. I’m tired of Oyakhilome smiling to the banks while I go unclothed and hungry. Of Oyedepo flying in jets while I stand in Molues. Of Adeboye making millions out of our individual tithes. I’m tired of people flocking to see the fraud called Adeboye/Oyakhilome/Oyedepo/Joshua/Adefarasin/Ajimolowo, oh sorry, Ashimolowo and the rest. I’m tired of people breaking up the chair Adeboye sat on and claiming blessing from it. I’m tired! I’m tired of human worship.

I’m tired of Bonnke sticking to Nigeria while he can’t step on his native German soil where he is wanted for Fraud. I’m tired of Benny Hinn asking for my donations when he is already proved to be a fraud. I’m tired of Ali G being pulled off YouTube because he exposed Benny Hinn. I’m tired of people flocking to these churches even when all these are in the media. Ah, shhhhh….I’m tired of crowd pulling juju o.

I’m tired of Church ushers looking like ball ushers and cheerleaders. I’m tired of praying to and worshipping Jesus when God is still alive. I’m tired of worshipping the cross, a symbol of devilish cults and an emblem of death and sorrow. I’m tired of people threatening me with Holy Ghost fire when it’s the fire that they even call while praying.

I may seem confused, investigating religions and so undecided, but not Christianity again. I’m tired!

“Decir, no vendemos”

<<<<From the link posted above>>>

Very funny but i feel this.Its just the rare truth.

[size=13pt]9ja4eva I feel you. . . [/size]

9ja4eva:


Bros, you are on point.

3. sayso you requested me to read the Book of Revelation of the Christians bible, Heaven is supposed to be a perfect place. It is of course, the place you strive for and name “salvation”. Yet, it experienced a war (Revelation 12:7). How can there be a war in a perfect place and if it happened before why couldn’t it happen again? Why would I want to go to a place in which war can occur? That’s exactly what I’m trying to escape, aren’t you?

A war in Heaven where neither side could be injured or killed, that's foolish. God could just defeat Satan, whats the need for a war lol, This sounds more like a cartoon story where the bad guys never die.


lol, the bible also tells Fairy Tale stories, "war in heaven", lol


How can Christians be sure that heaven will be perfect when it is written that there was already a war there?

d bible is real and it really makes sense. who is the idiot that posted this thread?

[size=13pt]echo- bee stop calling the poster IDIOT. this is a very serious issue here and i think wise respond is needed here instead no-sense . Its a question people ask and if you if you have not yet read the christian bible then, no need to get involved. no normal human being would say the bible make sense. . . . Infact , you better be careful with your post and dont even care to post anything if its not helpful . go gradually and stop posting only flaming words here , honestly i didn't notice you're lacking the modern way of conversation on forums . u better change your ways unless you're ready to make some sense.

Back to the topic, The bible is full of so many Contradictions and lies so why on earth do you believe in such a misleading book?.
Ask yourself this simple question: Why, when you read the Bible, are you not left in awe? Why doesn't a book written by an omniscient being leave you with a sense of wonder and amazement? If you are reading a book written by the all-powerful, all-knowing, all-loving creator of the universe, wouldn't you expect to be stunned by the brilliance, the clarity and the wisdom of the author? Would you not expect each new page to intoxicate you with its incredible prose and its spectacular insight? Wouldn't you expect the author to tell us things that scientists have not been able to discover yet?

Yet, when we open the Bible and actually read it, we find it is nothing like that at all. Instead of leaving us in awe, it leaves us dumbfounded by all of the nonsense and backwardness that it contains. If you read what the Bible actually says, you find that the Bible is ridiculous. The examples shown above barely scratch the surface of the Bible's numerous problems. If we are honest with ourselves, it is obvious that an "all-knowing" God had absolutely nothing to do with this book.

The reason why the Bible contains so much nonsense is because God is imaginary. The Bible is a book written thousands of years ago by primitive men. A book that advocates senseless murder, slavery and the oppression of women has no place in our society today. [/size]

The Bible can never make sense to Ogaga and all his ardent followers with the rate at which they are going. Why?

1Co 2:13 And we are setting these truths forth in words not taught by human wisdom but taught by the [Holy] Spirit, combining and interpreting spiritual truths with spiritual language [to those who possess the Holy Spirit].


1Co 2:14 But the natural, nonspiritual man does not accept or welcome or admit into his heart the gifts and teachings and revelations of the Spirit of God,[size=13pt] for they are folly (meaningless nonsense) to him[/size]; and he is incapable of knowing them [of progressively recognizing, understanding, and becoming better acquainted with them] because they are spiritually discerned and estimated and appreciated.


1Co 2:15 But the spiritual man tries all things [he examines, investigates, inquires into, questions, and discerns all things], yet is himself to be put on trial and judged by no one [he can read the meaning of everything, but no one can properly discern or appraise or get an insight into him].

Think of it this way: Jesus has the keys to death and hell, and he also has the key to eternal life. the choice is simple, and there is no need for arguments.

Rev 1:18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

1Jn 5:11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.
1Jn 5:12 He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.

The same person who opens the door to hell, opens the door to heaven. That is the most fair judgment that ANYONE can get.

It's not by force to believe the Bible. Our destiny is in our own hands, and we get what we deserve.

[size=13pt]mavenbox You're still wasting verses from the same Bible thats full of so many Contradictions and lies and you want me to read and after doing so i'we tell you the book make sense. . .common dont sound to funny why dont you want to agree the christian bible is dangerous to read and covering up , well i know all these is not your fault, maybe it's how you were brought up and this you can hardly go against seeing you are not too clearly about it.

Just try to ask yourself this simple question: Why, when you read the Bible, are you not left in awe? Why doesn't a book written by an omniscient being leave you with a sense of wonder and amazement? If you are reading a book written by the all-powerful, all-knowing, all-loving creator of the universe, wouldn't you expect to be stunned by the brilliance, the clarity and the wisdom of the author? Would you not expect each new page to intoxicate you with its incredible prose and its spectacular insight? Wouldn't you expect the author to tell us things that scientists have not been able to discover yet? .

Yet, when we open the Bible and actually read it, we find it is nothing like that at all. Instead of leaving us in awe, it leaves us dumbfounded by all of the nonsense and backwardness that it contains. If you read what the Bible actually says, you find that the Bible is ridiculous. The examples shown above barely scratch the surface of the Bible's numerous problems. If we are honest with ourselves, it is obvious that an "all-knowing" God had absolutely nothing to do with this book.

The reason why the Bible contains so much nonsense is because God is imaginary. The Bible is a book written thousands of years ago by primitive men. A book that advocates senseless murder, slavery and the oppression of women has no place in our society today.
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Of all the ninnyhammer you just said, the only thing I agree with is

why dont you want to agree the christian bible is dangerous to read and covering up

OF COURSE THE CHRISTIAN BIBLE IS DANGEROUS, AND THOSE WHO CAN'T STAND THE HEAT NEED TO STAY OUT OF THE KITCHEN! OF COURSE I AGREE! I KNOW HOW DANGEROUS THE BIBLE IS, AND I PUT IT TO GOOD USE EVERY SINGLE DAY.

Lmao. Your statements are self-indicting.

I never asked you to read the Bible, I only hope you find the truth before doom befalls you.

This roomm too dey waste person time esp if u start arguing with someone like jcross wey no know anything except to dodge questions while his evglish keeps getting worse.I enter that site again and omo men, i find somthin once more.

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Christianity baffles me; it puts me on the edge. How do I make sense of nonsense? I won’t make judgements; I’ll leave you to judge.
In the words of Professor James Harvey Robinson in 'The Mind in the making': "We like to continue to believe what we have been accustomed to accept true, and resentment aroused when doubt is cast upon any of our assumptions leads us to seek every manner of excuse for clinging to it. The result is that most of our so-called reasoning consists in finding arguments for going on believing as we already do.”
As a lead to the post “9 questions”, http://newageofreason./2009/11/06/9-questions/these analogies have been sent in by a contributor.
Mr Ole was an hardened criminal, he maimed and killed at will. He raped and stole with impunity. Unfortunately, he was never captured all through his reign as he was a moving charms factory. He couldn't also be touched ‘cuz of the weapon he clutched. He died peacefully in his bedroom in his country home mansion one night and was buried with pomp and pageantry. The Police thus got to know about his demise. They moved armoured vehicles and tanks into the country side and started shooting and shelling. They captured Mr OmoOle the only son of Mr Ole and took him to the Divisional Police HQ. After a trial at the local high court, he was sentenced to death by hanging. Even his explanations that he always tried to report but whenever he opens his mouth, nothing comes out fell on the deaf ears of the great judge of the land. Right at the Village square, he was hung with a noose and beneath him was a blazing fire that sparsely touches his naked GUILTY skin. Of course guilty, why did he choose to be the child of a robber? Why did his mother not run away from Mr Ole's house? In a landmark judgement that will shape later judicial rulings, OmoOle was rightly executed to cleanse the land and appease its citizens. IN YOUR OWN CONSCIENCE TOO, HOW DOES THAT SOUND? I LEAVE YOU TO JUDGE.Why should a soul bear the guilt of another?
Though Mr Ole was a criminal in Jaguda state, he was a generous and humble philanthropist in Jeje state,his state of origin.At a time,his earnings were dwindling and the Jejeans were suffering from drought.To bulk up his welfare packages to Jejeans, he killed Olediran, his only daughter and used her charred remains to make a more powerful charm that gave him the power to diappear and appear at will.With this, he was able to get more criminal money and thus made more Jejeans smile.He satisfied his wrath,his inner displaeasure of not making people as happy as he would have loved.JUDGE THAT! That’s about God sacrificing His only begotten son so that man may be saved.
That God died for us on the cross is like the view of Jeremy Bentham, Utilitarianism i.e make more people happy at the expense of less people.On the surface,it looks nice and sweetly humane but let me break it down.Two people have to go for a a life saving operation overseas.It costs 5 million naira. Captain Olowo has the money to give out but not anything more than that.A debacle sets in; one of the two is his mother.Ordinarily, he should give it to his mother but if his mother dies, he will be the only one to mourn since he is an only child and is single.The other patient, a man has a lot of dependants spanning generations and he is also a local headmaster of the Community Primary School.He has brought a lot of reforms into the primary education of the community.Basically, he is indispensable.The principle of Utilitarianism dictates that the money goes to the headmaster.How reasonable is that? Jesus didn’t have to go through all that pain for what he didn’t do and God will never do such for it is
the height of injustice.
Note that two different gods or Jesuses are being analysed. The former was god on the cross for us and the latter the son on the cross for us.
Christians will scream about the fact that not everyone can understand the doctrinal mysteries. Ambiguities are not meant to exist in a religion meant for everyone.The fact that I can't comprehend it makes me unanswerable for not believing it.