Seun:

Evolution is a fact. The speculations I'm talking about are the minute details of evolution that are not fully clear based on the current evidence. Such speculations may not be so reliable, but at least they are based on some evidence. The biblical myth has no evidence at all. Some old Jew probably made up the stories to entertain his grandchildren and it was passed on until people forgot that it was made up.

evolution is not a fact either. sorry.

Seun:

Evolution is a fact. The speculations I'm talking about are the minute details of evolution that are not fully clear based on the current evidence. Such speculations may not be so reliable, but at least they are based on some evidence. The biblical myth has no evidence at all. Some old Jew probably made up the stories to entertain his grandchildren and it was passed on until people forgot that it was made up.

If the minute details which make up the whole isn't reliable, then, how can the whole be reliable and termed a fact?

Gombs:


But... Your claims about about us being monkeys and hominids slaying their predecessors/successors was a story for the people who knew biology?

who said anything about slaying......
Oooh my God

Seun:

Evolution is a fact. The speculations I'm talking about are the minute details of evolution that are not fully clear based on the current evidence. Such speculations may not be so reliable, but at least they are based on some evidence. The biblical myth has no evidence at all. Some old Jew probably made up the stories to entertain his grandchildren and it was passed on until people forgot that it was made up.

Do you want Bible fact? How is it that every element found in the earth can also be found in the human body? Disprove that

LaClicKLaBenDin:



If the minute details which make up the whole isn't reliable, then, how can the whole be reliable and termed a fact?

Ask him abeg

Wow so nobody's views were changed
Maybe it's because of this

jonbellion:
Wow so nobody's views were changed
Maybe it's because of this

Wrong! Thats not how we think about it. We simply do not see it because it never happened!

4everGod:


Wrong! Thats not how we think about it. We simply do not see it because it never happened!

jonbellion:
Wow so nobody's views were changed
Maybe it's because of this

Not even close bro...

And that's why I asked for the little details which will enable us understand what evolution really is, but no one seems to have that...

Seun:
Can we skip the nonsense and just admit that the dust to man story was made up by people who didn't know ChemistrY?

Abeg, do something about Nairaland. It seems hackers are trying to hack our accounts. Sometimes if u click on a link it will redirect u to another site entirely.

jonbellion:
they believe that woman was formed from a rib and they come to laugh at evolutionists

Yes, believe it, because our God said so, and He doesn't lie!

LaClicKLaBenDin:


Yes, believe it, because our God said so, and He doesn't lie!

lol he lied he was coming back didn't he

jonbellion:
lol he lied he was coming back didn't he

Does he exist? Do you believe he existed?

LaClicKLaBenDin:


We didn't just evolve from monkeys. We are monkeys. Look at your face, then look at a monkey's face. Look at your hands, then look at a monkey's hands. We still have forest dwelling, tree climbing, furry monkeys because they didn't compete directly with us as hominids did.


The bolded is Seun's comment, isn't it? And now my question is, at what point did we become different from monkeys as we know it today? How did we become this intelligent, and different from them? I want to know details.

Please anyone who is not ready to address the question, shouldn't quote me..

he got it wrong...an error bro

4everGod:
Every single chemical or organic composition found in the earth can be found either in large or trace ...

It is not meaningful to say that the human body is made from the dust of the earth if the elemental composition of the human being is so different from what it was supposedly made from. Why would God use the soil to create man which means he would need to first reconstitute the soil at an elemental level, mostly removing some elements like silicon and aluminum and adding massive quantities of others like carbon before recombining the elements into the proteins, lipids, and bones that our bodies are actually made up of? It makes no sense at all. The trouble with being an apologist is having to defend the indefensible.

jonbellion:
lol he lied he was coming back didn't he

Of course, He's coming back, and that's why you need to have a rethink and give your life to Christ.

4everGod:


Does he exist? Do you believe he existed?

nope
Not in that sense

MrMontella:

he got it wrong...an error bro

Nice one, MrMontella...

Seun:

Dude you are embarrassing yourself. It is not meaningful to say that the human body is made from the dust of the earth if the elemental composition of the human being is so different from what it was supposedly made from. Why would God use the soil to create man which means he would need to first reconstitute the dust at an elemental level, mostly removing some elements like silicon and aluminum and adding massive quantities of others like carbon before recombining the elements into the proteins, lipids, and bones that our bodies are actually made up of? It makes no sense at all. The trouble with being an apologist is having to defend the undefendable.

Seun!!!

Seun:

Dude you are embarrassing yourself. It is not meaningful to say that the human body is made from the dust of the earth if the elemental composition of the human being is so different from what it was supposedly made from. Why would God use the soil to create man which means he would need to first reconstitute the dust at an elemental level, mostly removing some elements like silicon and aluminum and adding massive quantities of others like carbon before recombining the elements into the proteins, lipids, and bones that our bodies are actually made up of? It makes no sense at all. The trouble with being an apologist is having to defend the undefendable.

What you need are details of how dust transitioned to man and God isnt interested in giving you that because if he does then man would begin creating man.

What you should focus on is how to get the much needed minute details you say evolution does not have and which is riddled all over it. If you can get this then creation would become a farce.

Do you think God is foolish? You expect him to break it down to you so you can become God to yourself in all fullness?

Think again

Seun:

Dude you are embarrassing yourself. It is not meaningful to say that the human body is made from the dust of the earth if the elemental composition of the human being is so different from what it was supposedly made from. Why would God use the soil to create man which means he would need to first reconstitute the dust at an elemental level, mostly removing some elements like silicon and aluminum and adding massive quantities of others like carbon before recombining the elements into the proteins, lipids, and bones that our bodies are actually made up of? It makes no sense at all. The trouble with being an apologist is having to defend the undefendable.

The problem with being an unbeliever is not knowing the power that created the universe.

Do you mean to tell me that the One who created the universal could have any difficulty doing what you just stated above?

Seun:

Dude you are embarrassing yourself. It is not meaningful to say that the human body is made from the dust of the earth if the elemental composition of the human being is so different from what it was supposedly made from. Why would God use the soil to create man which means he would need to first reconstitute the dust at an elemental level, mostly removing some elements like silicon and aluminum and adding massive quantities of others like carbon before recombining the elements into the proteins, lipids, and bones that our bodies are actually made up of? It makes no sense at all. The trouble with being an apologist is having to defend the undefendable.

And you expect everything to make sense yet evolution which makes absolutely no sense makes sense to you even with all your self confessed missing minute details.

jonbellion:
nope
Not in that sense

So in what sense then?

jonbellion:
lol he lied he was coming back didn't he

Your comment deserves this



Think before you talk

4everGod:


And you expect everything to make sense yet evolution which makes absolutely no sense makes sense to you even with all your self confessed missing minute details.

evolution makes sense
Look at marsupials for petes sake
If evolution was a lie then God must be decieving us in looking at the way animals are distributed making it look asif marsupials separately evolved in an isolated environment from placentals

jonbellion:
evolution makes sense
Look at marsupials for petes sake
If evolution was a lie then God must be decieving us in looking at the way animals are distributed making it look asif marsupials separately evolved in an isolated environment from placentals

Still regurgitating i see

4everGod:


I wish you knew. Let me give you one example
Whales keep swimming up onto the beach where they die. Do you think the whales are trying to expedite a multi-million generation plan to grow legs? That concept is stupid, but let's get back to the fish story

its actually the other way round...
Mammalian ancestor to whale...

The gills of the fish are made for extracting oxygen from water, not from air. He chokes and gasps before flipping back into the safety of the water. Why would he do such a stupid thing? This wiggling and choking continues for millions of generation until the fish chokes less and less. His gills evolve into lungs so he can breathe air on dry land, but now he is at risk of drowning in the water

.

oh crap..even lungfishes can survive on land for ''long'' sire..

One day he simply stays out on the land and never goes back into the water. Now he is a lizard.

reductio ad absurdum

Giant dinosaurs literally exploded onto the scene during the Triassic period. The fossil record (petrified bones found in the ground as at the Dinosaur National Park in Jensen, Utah, USA) shows no intermediate or transitional species. Where are the millions of years of fossils showing the transitional forms for dinosaurs? They do not not exist, because the dinosaurs did not evolve..

this is a lie...we have transitional dinosaur fossils like archaeopteryx

LaClicKLaBenDin:


The problem with being an unbeliever is not knowing the power that created the universe.

Do you mean to tell me that the One who created the universal could have any difficulty doing what you just stated above?

Again , logical thinking disappears .

jonbellion:
who said anything about slaying......
Oooh my God

I'd have called you stupid, but that'd be great underestimation

https://www.nairaland.com/3495673/experience-atheist-three-weeks/11#51568799


Suddenly, he's your God?

MrMontella:

its actually the other way round...
Mammalian ancestor to whale...

.

oh crap..even lungfishes can survive on land for ''long'' sire..


reductio ad absurdum

this is a lie...we have transitional dinosaur fossils like archaeopteryx

actually the archropteryx was at the end of the Jurassic period

jonbellion:
I said closest relatives I didn't say evolve Oooh My God

one facepalm is not enough bro

jonbellion:
evolution makes sense
Look at marsupials for petes sake
If evolution was a lie then God must be decieving us in looking at the way animals are distributed making it look asif marsupials separately evolved in an isolated environment from placentals

Evolution also was supposed to make sense with the Coelacanth but the fish even when touted as 350m years old never evolved.