felixomor:


Read carefully,
He is even guilty by that law.
It was never written that all the eleven disciples were told at once, in one place.

But he concluded that the eleven disciples were in one place at one time.
He is guilty too, my dear.

DoctorAlien:


Isn't it funny that when the events of the resurrection as reported by the evangelists are harmonized perfectly, the only thing you have to say is "where is that written?"?

You're full.

Full of ignorance. Please, have you any more sensible thing to say?

alchemist13:

John 20:18
Mary Magdalene went and announced to the disciples, “I have seen the Lord”—and that he had said these things to her.

Matthew 28:8
So they departed quickly from the tomb with fear and great joy, and ran to tell his disciples.

To be sure neither passages mention eleven disciples but that will be rather uncharacteristically pedantic. There is absolutely no reason to assume these passages do not refer to the eleven.

DoctorAlien:
AgentOfAllah,

Please google "four accounts, one reality" and stop asking those uninformed questions.

Mary went with the company of women, but as they neared the sepulchre, she saw the stone rolled away and she left the rest and ran to inform Peter and John who were probably in nearby Jerusalem.

alchemist13:

John 20:18
Mary Magdalene went and announced to the disciples, “I have seen the Lord”—and that he had said these things to her.

Matthew 28:8
So they departed quickly from the tomb with fear and great joy, and ran to tell his disciples.

To be sure neither passages mention eleven disciples but that will be rather uncharacteristically pedantic. There is absolutely no reason to assume these passages do not refer to the eleven.

DoctorAlien:


Again, mental blindness did not allow you to notice that Matthew didn't even mention the whole women that went: he mentioned just two. His account is not comprehensive.

The four accounts shed more light on the same event. Read that piece again, this time slowly.

DoctorAlien:
AgentOfAllah,

Please google "four accounts, one reality" and stop asking those uninformed questions.

Mary went with the company of women, but as they neared the sepulchre, she saw the stone rolled away and she left the rest and ran to inform Peter and John who were probably in nearby Jerusalem.

dalaman:


Luke mentions the 11. But according to the gospel his apologist formed, Peter and John were in Jerusalem while the others where in Bethany.

alchemist13:

Well, then we agree on one contradiction. Because according to Matthew, Mary (another Mary) met an angelic being who apparently convinced both women of Jesus' resurrection. That is the reason for the women departing the tomb.

Whereas in John, the same Mary flees the tomb as soon as she sees that the stone has been rolled away.

felixomor:
Source:
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https://answersingenesis.org/jesus-christ/resurrection/christs-resurrection-four-accounts-one-reality/[/url]

alchemist13:

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alchemist13:

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DoctorAlien:
jimmyjenseng,

This question exposes your lack of knowledge of the character of GOD. GOD say He has no pleasure in the death of a sinner. That is the reason why GOD sends messengers who warn the people to turn from their sinful ways.

jimmyjenseng:


Yea, maybe I lack the knowledge of God's character but His infallible Word shows the inconsistency in His person.

If you say God has no pleasure in the death of a sinner, why is he ever ready to destroy the sinner?
In Psalm 7:11-13:
...God is angry with the wicked every day. If he turns not his way, He will whet His sword; He hath bent His bow and made it ready. He hath also prepared for him the instruments of death; He ordaineth His arrow against the persecutor.

How do you explain this?

P.S I'm keen to learning.

4everGod:
DoctorAlien and felixomor you know last night on another thread i had a similar debate with PastorAIO and LiberaDeus and they were also hammering on Bible contradictions and even though i trashed both of them combined

Somehow at about 12.30am while they were still haggling i switched my dstv over to channel 186 which is the history Channel (which is one of my favourite channels on dstv) and right there was an amazing documentary titled THE BIBLE RULES!

It was all about 12 highly qualified and esteemed Historians and archaeologists who were brought together to explore the historical reality lying behind all of the Bible's commands, delving into a their unknown origins and backstories and what people term as contradictions found in it.

These were modern historians who could speak the ancient languages dating back to 500BC and they spoke and gave verbatim interpretation right there on the program as the tore the Bible to shreds and put it back together and all 12 unanimously declared that the Bible held no contradiction and worse still 2 of these Historians were Muslim.

Arguing with these atheists who know little or nothing about Bible history, culture, traditions or indeed anything at all is tantamount to giving yourselves a migraine.

I urge them to go and first of all do deep research like these practical historians and archaeologists did yesterday in that 2hr documentary. Unless they wish to say they somehow know more than 12 actual world respected historians and archaeologists do from their face value knowledge of the scriptures.

That documentary was a ground breaking documentary which DSTV had been announcing since the 5th of December so everyone would be on it and i was opportune d to be on when they aired it and i was deeply blessed seeing men prove the scriptures are what they are. Divine, inspired and absolutely correct!

DoctorAlien:


Very simple.

That GOD has no pleasure in the death of a sinner does not mean that He is happy with sinner's way of life. If the sinner would not repent, GOD will destroy him.

alchemist13:
@4everGod

All that one na story.
Do you have anything to contribute to this topic?

You are actually the one spilling "stories" everywhere. Yesterday 12 historians and archeologists dropped solid truth.

Enjoy your delusion

randomperson:

In the context of the bible, Galilee actually means Jerusalem. But only the holy spirit can reveal this to you... hehehehehe...

jimmyjenseng:


Thank you.
Back to the thread's topic on inconsistency, Matthew's account informs the reader that Jesus was clothed in a scarlet robe - Matt 27:28 - which is a sign of infamy whilst Mark's and John's account tell us that Jesus was clothed in purple robe which is significant to royalty.

The differences in robe colour and the their significance contradicts themselves.

DoctorAlien:
4ever God,

Except the ones that have no modicum of intelligence, the "atheists" here know that the Bible contains no contradiction, if that word is defined correctly, as the erudite felix omor defined it on the first page of this thread.

Thumbs up bro!

DoctorAlien:
AgentOfAllah,

Matthew summarized the events from the resurrection morning to the ascension(40 days later) in just one chapter.

That chapter spans all the appearances of Jesus to all the different people, and their different meetings with themselves. Matthew obviously didn't go into details. The news of Jesus' resurrection must have caused serious frenzied movements and cross-movements in Jerusalem and its environs that Sunday. Matthew summarized the events like that because the schedule of movements on that resurrection morning isn't really all that important to the Christian's Salvation.

Ranchhoddas:
This is actually very silly. You are yet to see AgentOfAllah's queries to a logical conclusion and you are declaring victory. Quite pathetic.

DoctorAlien:
AgentOfAllah,

If you refuse to accept that Matthew didn't mention all the women that went to the sepulchre, I think it's pointless quoting me.

John wrote that if all that Jesus did were to be recorded, the Bible would be too big. The gospel writes did their best to summarize a host of events their own way. Comparing the 4 accounts gives a more complete picture of Jesus' life.

Thank you.