4everGod:


If all are on youtube then tell me how many episodes are they in total.

I am getting used to the way you tag people as liars without even running any research of your own. Shows you desperately wish to win even before you have started.

I just tire for the guy.

felixomor:


Bro, i suggest u leave that fella.
He is a troll from the start.

If u see a sincere seeker, you will know.
Thanks brother.

Yea, I'm a Freethinker and I seek to know the truth. Telling him to ignore my questions only makes people - baby Christians and a lot of non Christians - think there are truly holes in the Bible. The product - religion - you try to sell isn't worthy of buying if you can't prove its inerrancy.
More so, you don't know who might give his/her life to Christ on the course of proving this. I appreciate the answers so far and I hope I meet someone on here who'd bring me to the light.
Thank you.

jimmyjenseng:


Yea, I'm a Freethinker and I seek to know the truth. Telling him to ignore my questions only makes people - baby Christians and a lot of non Christians - think there are truly holes in the Bible. The product - religion - you try to sell isn't worthy of buying if you can't prove its inerrancy.
More so, you don't know who might give his/her life to Christ on the course of proving this. I appreciate the answers so far and I hope I meet someone on here who'd bring me to the light.
Thank you.

Welcome

felixomor:


Its obvious also u dont even know the definition of "contradiction"
because u didnt bother to read the article

Also, the shameless soul, Ni.njaX, u r replying even quoted "Matthew 21:71" when Matthew 21 has only 46 verses

And u also blindly mentioned him without correction.
It only showz that ur google "bible' is only opened when u r on nairaland.
But u guys will come and pose like people who have been studying for eternity.

Humble urself and study, kids.
Desperation doesnt hide.

Lol. It was a fatal mistake. I meant to type 7, not 71. Would have edited if I had detected the error before now.

What a funny guy. You are making me go mad with laughter. I'm not just making empty claims, but I believe I probably read the bible more than you do.

randomperson:

I think the most blatant case of contradiction happens with numbers as with this case.... Did he sit on one donkey or two?? It's not possible that there was one donkey and at the same time two donkeys. Same thing with the case of the mad man or men of gedarenes. One gospels says one, the other says two.... If that's not contradiction, I don't know what is

As in eh, I was left in a state of shock when I completed the quiz. The bible is riddled with many contradictions and far from the perfect book christians regard it as, not even an inch close to perfection.

And I would have still defended these contradictions if I was still a christian. That's the thing with religion, you defend the "undefendable" to sustain it, cause you can neither update its out-dated ideas nor condemn its immoral acts.

NinjaX:


As in eh, I was left in a state of shock when I completed the quiz. The bible is riddled with many contradictions and far from the perfect book christians regard it as, not even an inch close to perfection.

And I would have still defended these contradictions if I was still a christian. That's the thing with religion, you defend the "undefendable" to sustain it, cause you can neither update its out-dated ideas nor condemn its immoral acts.

U couldnt even completely read this article.
Its bible u were able to read and understand?

Please if no meaningful contributions,
Cheers

felixomor:


U couldnt even completely read this article.
Its bible u were able to read and understand?

Please if no meaningful contributions,
Cheers

Don't have the luxury. It would be a waste of space in my mental flat.

I'm a christian you know?
Besides, many people have tried what you are doing previously, without any atom of success. You are just flogging a dead horse.

You couldn't even counter my post. Instead you pulled some distractive stunt as usual, and then went on to attack a minor error on the post so as to throw me off balance, since you couldn't make an intelligent counter.

NinjaX:


Don't have the luxury. It would be a waste of space in my mental flat.

I'm a christian you know?
Besides, many people have tried what you are doing previously, without any atom of success. You are just flogging a dead horse.

You couldn't even counter my post. Instead you pulled some distractive stunt as usual, and then went on to attack a minor error on the post so as to throw me off balance, since you couldn't make an intelligent counter.

U dont have space in ur brain abi.
No wonder your Matthew has 71 verses.

Goodbye

felixomor:


U dont have space in ur brain abi.
No wonder your Matthew has 71 verses.

Goodbye

You twist everything I say. Lol. How does what you said even make sense? How can one not have space in his brain?

I try as much as possible to avoid irrelevant information. Don't want a situation whereby needless information will be competing with important ones for space just like weed do with useful plants for space and nutrients. Unnecessay info could block important one you need to reproduce from memory.

Goodnite.

NinjaX:


You twist everything I say. Lol. How does what you said even make sense? How can one not have space in his brain?

I try as much as possible to avoid irrelevant information. Don't want a situation whereby needless information will be competing with important ones for space just like weed do with useful plants for space and nutrients. Unnecessay info could block importance one you need to reproduce from memory.

Goodnite.

U cant sit down to read.
Reading requires patience.
U dont have it.

Life goes on

felixomor:


U cant sit down to read.
Reading requires patience.
U dont have it.

Life goes on

Assumption 2

I read, only if the stuff in question can hold my insterest. Yeah, I'm impatient with badly thought out piece of write-up

I thought you said goodbye... Abi sleep never still catch you?

NinjaX:


Assumption 2
I read, only if the stuff in question can hold my insterest.

I thought you said goodbye... Abi sleep never still catch you?

Goodbye meant u should leave the thread, if u couldnt read it.
Shalom

felixomor:


Goodbye meant u should leave the thread, if u couldnt read it.
Shalom

Well, I'd rather stay. I like it in here. Why are you driving away a potential convert? Na so bible talk?

NinjaX:


Well, I'd rather stay. I like it in here. Why are you driving away a potential convert? Na so bible talk?

Oh, so ur mental flat can now degrade to constituting nuisance? Ehn?

felixomor:

Oh, so ur mental flat can now degrade to constituting nuisance? Ehn?

You sure it's the holy spirit in you that is ministering? Holyspirit don't talk this way.

NinjaX:


You sure it's the holy spirit in you that is ministering? Holyspirit don't talk this way.

Yes.
Goodbye, u r not needed.

felixomor:

The Bible does not contradict itself.
Over the centuries past, Numerous Agnostic and even some atheist professors who have thoroughly studied the entire bible have on many occasions, come to that conclusion, even despite admitting they dont believe it. Although many came to later believe after a complete study of it.

I would like to first define what a contradiction is according to the Oxford English dictionary;

A combination of statements, ideas, or features which are opposed to one another:


A good example will be thus:
"John went to school "

To contradict or oppose this statement,
I will have to say;
"John never went to school"

In the light of the aforementioned definition;
"John went to market"
would not even by any means, be a contradiction to
"John went to school"

Why? You may ask.
The answer is simple;

John may have gone to both school and the market, but at different times.


Both statements can be correct, and so will not be qualified to be regarded as opposed to each other. Hence not contradicting nor inconsistent with each other.

Another example would be:
1. "John met a girl called Mary at school"
2. "John met many girls at school"

These two statements coming from 2 different authors can be correct.

How?
The answer is simple;

John could have met Mary at 8am and subsequently met Patricia, Rose, Bolanle and Rukky at 9am, 10am, 11am and12noon respectively.

So it would obviously have been foolish to call both statements contradictions of each other, or to say both statements are not consistent with each other.

It would have been a different scenario if the original statement was;

"John met only Mary at school"

In this case,
"John met many girls at school"
would be a contradiction.

The word "only" would clearly be the changing factor.

And Still on this example, It will even be more foolish to ask,
"how many girls were at John's school?"

Why is it foolish to ask so?
The answer is easy too.

The subject of the statements was not the total population of girls at John's school.
The subject was rather based on the fact that John met girl/girls at school.

A last example would be;

"John said we could come"
and
"They said we could come"

These 2 statements coming from 2 different authors are not by any means contradictions, neither are they inconsistent, as there are numerous possible ways both could happen and still be true as follows;

1. John could be the spokesman of "they"

OR

2. John and "they" could have said so at different times.

OR

3. John and "they" could have also said so at the same
time in unison

4. And so on and so forth

The only way I could have contradicted

"John said we could come"
Is to have said
"John never said we could come"..


Thats that for buttressing the explanation of what contradictions are.

Coming Back to the bible and the issue of young internet users who claim to be atheists today, its quite unfortunate that many seem to throw around the word "contradiction" all in an attempt to discredit the bible for their personal fleshly gain.
They usually use the internet for this by posting falsely titled articles that make them appear like well researched bible skeptic sholars.

The Parts of the bible where they usually do this, are where different authors give accounts of the same biography or events.
For example, the gospels, 1st and 2nd Kings, Chronicles, Samuel etc.

I will, for the sake of this article, pick one from the popular ones they throw around.

Luke 24:4-5
And it came to pass, as they were much perplexed thereabout, behold, two men stood by them in shining garments:
5. And as they were afraid, and bowed down their faces to the earth, they said unto them, Why seek ye the living among the dead?

AND

Mark 16:5-6
 And entering into the sepulchre, they saw a young man sitting on the right side, clothed in a long white garment; and they were affrighted.
6.And he saith unto them, Be not affrighted: Ye seek Jesus of Nazareth, which was crucified: he is risen; he is not here: behold the place where they laid him.

Firstly, Take note, Luke says what happened
"as they were perplexed"

Mark says what happened
"as they entered"

As we can see, Two different points in time
Just take note.

Secondly, also take note
The subject topic of both scriptures is NOT the total population count of men or angel messengers that were inside the tomb.
As a matter of fact, if you observe, carefully, none of those two parts of scriptures mentions the total number of angels that were at the tomb.

The subject of both scriptures was what transpired at different points in time while the women entered and also while they were within the tomb.
Just take note.


But guess what

These two portions of the bible are boldly and wrongly pointed as contradictions to each other on an anti-christian bible quiz  website that was featured on one article written by Seun recently
You can check it here:

http://exchristian.net/3

To tell you the extent of their insincerity and utter dishonesty,
They did it by asking the question

" How many men were in Jesus' tomb when the women arrived?"

A careful look at this question would show you that the subject of this question is based on the total population count seen by the women on arrival.
Hence the phrase "How many men"

Moreso, the quiz question also specified subject time; "on arrival"

However and contrarily, none of those bible verses highlighted above had the subject of total population counts.

And also, Mark was the only one who decribed in detail what happened as "they entered" which is synonymous with "on arrival"


They intentionally used a question with a different subject and subject time to arrive at the conclusion that both portions of the bible contradicted each other.

When in actual truth, their question (based on "arrival" was generated from a momentary description from Mark.

They devilishly picked another momentary description for another point in time, from Luke and arrived at the false claim of "contradiction".

Just As illustrated in our earlier example,

"John met a girl at school"
Vs.
"John met many girls at school"

Also, For clarity sake, no portion of the bible talks about the total number of angels that were at the tomb.

Unfortunately, This is not the only portion of the bible they have dishonestly represented as contradiction before.
They have done so on many other verses, as I said before.

For example, the bible never mentioned the number of wise men who came to present gifts to baby Jesus.
But what we find commonly today even among Christians is "three wise men".
This is Wrong!

Another example; the bible never mentions the age of the earth despite the fact that many people go around saying the bible says the earth is 6000 years old

Thank God for bible explanation websites today that can easily be found using search engines like google.
As a result, These verses can now easily be researched.
A good one is www.biblestudytools.com
Such websites are free for everyone to use.

And most importantly, thank God for the Holy Spirit Who reveals these things to us.

Whenever a sincere truth-seeking person is in doubts, he should pray for understanding and the Holy Ghost would open his eyes to understand God's word.

You could also search bible verse explanations on google and youtube.
There are many other free resources online.
Bible explanation is not meant for only theologians and seminarians.

It is sad that many of these young folks who have not read the bible completely before, fall for this "bible contradiction" gimmick and begin to call themselves atheists.
When u Ask them "why?" they would scream "bible contradiction".

The "bible contradiction" gimmick is a plot by the devil directed towards young people of today, to discourage them from approaching what he fears the most, which is the Sword of the Word of God.


He makes them to Forget what the term "contradiction" means in the first place. Giving them a false sense of protection for their sins.
As a result, they never get to ask God for forgiveness.

The devil also makes them forget the fact that being skeptic doesnt necessarily make you an atheist.


My prayer is that, may the Lord Open their eyes to the truth and deliver them from this grand deception.

Amen.




cc kingebukasblog, felixomor, anas09, shadeyinka, Gombs, Goodmuyis, promise10, pigdin2, lacklicklabendin, naijadeyhia, 4everGod, damogul

Excellent article.

blueAgent:





Excellent article.

Thanks.

i beta start now oh before e rich 100 page

jonbellion:
Why did you now mention yourself
Is Christmas beer doing you

lol..... Neptune weed is cold, sends debilitating shudders through your body, and rewires your brain to such an extent that you start viewing yourself as an object.

joyContraMundum:
Well, then, here's my own take......

If you're so dimwitted, or blind, or your sight has gotten a bit bad, or maybe it's even a brain issue - the ball of noodles imprisoned in that water-logged skull of yours that you call a brain can no longer interpret visual signals correctly, that you now claim that YOU CAN'T SEE any Contradictions in the Bible, with so much confidence that some frightening dunces are even calling you "Mr President', then you needn't worry.

I won't argue with you. I'll only recommend a lobotomy.

U dont have to demonstrate illiteracy with so much vigour.
I hope u know?
If u cant quietly read the article and submit meaningful contribution, u have no business in such a discussion.

Shalom

felixomor:


U dont have to demonstrate illiteracy with so much vigour.
I hope u know?
If u cant quietly read the article and submit meaningful contribution, u have no business in such a discussion.

Shalom

What's up, Felix? You thought I was gone?

That's right. You got me banned. You needn't worry though. I've "calmed down".

Phaeze:
What's up, Felix? You thought I was gone?

That's right. You got me banned. You needn't worry though. I've "calmed down".

Ok.

felixomor:

The Bible does not contradict itself.
Over the centuries past, Numerous Agnostic and even some atheist professors who have thoroughly studied the entire bible have on many occasions, come to that conclusion, even despite admitting they dont believe it. Although many came to later believe after a complete study of it.

I would like to first define what a contradiction is according to the Oxford English dictionary;

A combination of statements, ideas, or features which are opposed to one another:


A good example will be thus:
"John went to school "

To contradict or oppose this statement,
I will have to say;
"John never went to school"

In the light of the aforementioned definition;
"John went to market"
would not even by any means, be a contradiction to
"John went to school"

Why? You may ask.
The answer is simple;

John may have gone to both school and the market, but at different times.


Both statements can be correct, and so will not be qualified to be regarded as opposed to each other. Hence not contradicting nor inconsistent with each other.

Another example would be:
1. "John met a girl called Mary at school"
2. "John met many girls at school"

These two statements coming from 2 different authors can be correct.

How?
The answer is simple;

John could have met Mary at 8am and subsequently met Patricia, Rose, Bolanle and Rukky at 9am, 10am, 11am and12noon respectively.

So it would obviously have been foolish to call both statements contradictions of each other, or to say both statements are not consistent with each other.

It would have been a different scenario if the original statement was;

"John met only Mary at school"

In this case,
"John met many girls at school"
would be a contradiction.

The word "only" would clearly be the changing factor.

And Still on this example, It will even be more foolish to ask,
"how many girls were at John's school?"

Why is it foolish to ask so?
The answer is easy too.

The subject of the statements was not the total population of girls at John's school.
The subject was rather based on the fact that John met girl/girls at school.

A last example would be;

"John said we could come"
and
"They said we could come"

These 2 statements coming from 2 different authors are not by any means contradictions, neither are they inconsistent, as there are numerous possible ways both could happen and still be true as follows;

1. John could be the spokesman of "they"

OR

2. John and "they" could have said so at different times.

OR

3. John and "they" could have also said so at the same
time in unison

4. And so on and so forth

The only way I could have contradicted

"John said we could come"
Is to have said
"John never said we could come"..


Thats that for buttressing the explanation of what contradictions are.

Coming Back to the bible and the issue of young internet users who claim to be atheists today, its quite unfortunate that many seem to throw around the word "contradiction" all in an attempt to discredit the bible for their personal fleshly gain.
They usually use the internet for this by posting falsely titled articles that make them appear like well researched bible skeptic sholars.

The Parts of the bible where they usually do this, are where different authors give accounts of the same biography or events.
For example, the gospels, 1st and 2nd Kings, Chronicles, Samuel etc.

I will, for the sake of this article, pick one from the popular ones they throw around.

Luke 24:4-5
And it came to pass, as they were much perplexed thereabout, behold, two men stood by them in shining garments:
5. And as they were afraid, and bowed down their faces to the earth, they said unto them, Why seek ye the living among the dead?

AND

Mark 16:5-6
 And entering into the sepulchre, they saw a young man sitting on the right side, clothed in a long white garment; and they were affrighted.
6.And he saith unto them, Be not affrighted: Ye seek Jesus of Nazareth, which was crucified: he is risen; he is not here: behold the place where they laid him.

Firstly, Take note, Luke says what happened
"as they were perplexed"

Mark says what happened
"as they entered"

As we can see, Two different points in time
Just take note.

Secondly, also take note
The subject topic of both scriptures is NOT the total population count of men or angel messengers that were inside the tomb.
As a matter of fact, if you observe, carefully, none of those two parts of scriptures mentions the total number of angels that were at the tomb.

The subject of both scriptures was what transpired at different points in time while the women entered and also while they were within the tomb.
Just take note.


But guess what

These two portions of the bible are boldly and wrongly pointed as contradictions to each other on an anti-christian bible quiz  website that was featured on one article written by Seun recently
You can check it here:

http://exchristian.net/3

To tell you the extent of their insincerity and utter dishonesty,
They did it by asking the question

" How many men were in Jesus' tomb when the women arrived?"

A careful look at this question would show you that the subject of this question is based on the total population count seen by the women on arrival.
Hence the phrase "How many men"

Moreso, the quiz question also specified subject time; "on arrival"

However and contrarily, none of those bible verses highlighted above had the subject of total population counts.

And also, Mark was the only one who decribed in detail what happened as "they entered" which is synonymous with "on arrival"


They intentionally used a question with a different subject and subject time to arrive at the conclusion that both portions of the bible contradicted each other.

When in actual truth, their question (based on "arrival" was generated from a momentary description from Mark.

They devilishly picked another momentary description for another point in time, from Luke and arrived at the false claim of "contradiction".

Just As illustrated in our earlier example,

"John met a girl at school"
Vs.
"John met many girls at school"

Also, For clarity sake, no portion of the bible talks about the total number of angels that were at the tomb.

Unfortunately, This is not the only portion of the bible they have dishonestly represented as contradiction before.
They have done so on many other verses, as I said before.

For example, the bible never mentioned the number of wise men who came to present gifts to baby Jesus.
But what we find commonly today even among Christians is "three wise men".
This is Wrong!

Another example; the bible never mentions the age of the earth despite the fact that many people go around saying the bible says the earth is 6000 years old

Thank God for bible explanation websites today that can easily be found using search engines like google.
As a result, These verses can now easily be researched.
A good one is www.biblestudytools.com
Such websites are free for everyone to use.

And most importantly, thank God for the Holy Spirit Who reveals these things to us.

Whenever a sincere truth-seeking person is in doubts, he should pray for understanding and the Holy Ghost would open his eyes to understand God's word.

You could also search bible verse explanations on google and youtube.
There are many other free resources online.
Bible explanation is not meant for only theologians and seminarians.

It is sad that many of these young folks who have not read the bible completely before, fall for this "bible contradiction" gimmick and begin to call themselves atheists.
When u Ask them "why?" they would scream "bible contradiction".

The "bible contradiction" gimmick is a plot by the devil directed towards young people of today, to discourage them from approaching what he fears the most, which is the Sword of the Word of God.


He makes them to Forget what the term "contradiction" means in the first place. Giving them a false sense of protection for their sins.
As a result, they never get to ask God for forgiveness.

The devil also makes them forget the fact that being skeptic doesnt necessarily make you an atheist.


My prayer is that, may the Lord Open their eyes to the truth and deliver them from this grand deception.

Amen.




cc kingebukasblog, felixomor, anas09, shadeyinka, Gombs, Goodmuyis, promise10, pigdin2, lacklicklabendin, naijadeyhia, 4everGod, damogul

What a nice post!

IKC10:
What a nice post!

Thanks Bro.

Er excuse me felixomor, but your refutation to this resurrection contradiction issue has given me a lot of problems. To see whether or not you are correct, I suggest that we walk through it, step by step (I would appreciate it if you answered my questions directly, rather than directing me to another website). So, according to you, the empty tomb discovery in the book of Luke, takes place chronologically before that of the book of John. I believe that for the sake of argument, this has been established between you and your critics. I believe that your next claim is that, in Luke's account, apart from Mary Magdalene and the other Mary, there were other women who followed them to the tomb and found the man. Then, in the book of John, where the second visit takes place, it is Mary Magdalene that is weeping for Jesus's body. Am I following? Please answer yes or no. If you answer no, then correct me so that we can continue to the next step.