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Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by CecyAdrian(f): 12:54pm On Jan 08, 2017
While reading through the scripture one day, I came across rules and regulations concerning tithe in Deuteronomy , I was shocked because I never knew that the issue of tithe was talked about anywhere else excerpt in Malachi 3:8. Now, when you take a look at Deuteronomy 14 when God was giving the children of Israelite rules and regulations, God explained the concept or reason for tithe to them and gave them rules to abide in regards to it, from verse 22 downwards explains it so well.

Then you also go to Deuteronomy 26:12 downwards, the same rule was also repeated, and an very sure that the reason why God said that we should bring our tithes and offering in Malachi 3: 10 was for the actualization of his rules and regulation in Deuteronomy, which is feeding the Levites, poor, widows and the needy in the society

So, now I ask, why do pastors prefer Malachi even to the extent of twisting it to favour their aims instead of giving their church members the full concept, rules and regulations regarding tithing which the Lord commanded in Deuteronomy.

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Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by stainlink(m): 12:58pm On Jan 08, 2017
There is the tendency that Malachi is more pastor centered than Deuteronomy

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Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by Atoos(m): 12:59pm On Jan 08, 2017
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Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by ilynem(m): 1:02pm On Jan 08, 2017
Contrary to popular belief, tithing is not an old testament thingy. Jesus spoke about it in Matthew 23:23.

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Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by bonechamberlain(m): 1:03pm On Jan 08, 2017
To suit their parochial and selfish interest

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Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by CecyAdrian(f): 1:06pm On Jan 08, 2017
ilynem:
Contrary to popular belief, tithing is not an old testament thingy. Jesus spoke about it in Matthew 23:23.

In that verse Jesus even condemned the manner in which tithe was favoured instead justice, mercy and faith, He even likened it to one cleaning the outside of th dish while the inside is dirty.

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Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by annunaki2(m): 1:06pm On Jan 08, 2017
The malachi passage can be easily manipulated cause tithes is not defined in it unlike deuteronomy that clearly defines tithes as contrary to what pastors will like you to believe it is.

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Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by ilynem(m): 1:21pm On Jan 08, 2017
CecyAdrian:


In that verse Jesus even condemned the manner in which tithe was favoured justice, mercy and faith even likening it to one cleaning the outside of th dish while the inside is dirty.
Exactly. Jesus condemned the manner it was paid but never said it was wrong to pay it. Two different things.

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Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by Cameleon72(f): 1:23pm On Jan 08, 2017
You can also become a pastor and answer your ques...

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Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by CecyAdrian(f): 2:14pm On Jan 08, 2017
ilynem:

Exactly. Jesus condemned the manner it was paid but never said it was wrong to pay it. Two different things.

Lol, Jesus condemned the manner in which it was paid, because much emphasis was laid on it just like the present church is doing now, instead of other things, like this pastors laying emphasis on justice, mercy and faith.

When you read through that chapter, his annoyance towards it shows he was not a fan of it.

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Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by CecyAdrian(f): 2:22pm On Jan 08, 2017
Cameleon72:
You can also become a pastor and answer your ques...

And from whence did thou crawler out?

So, only a pastor can answer the question. No wonder they keep deceiving your gullible type

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Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by ilynem(m): 2:30pm On Jan 08, 2017
CecyAdrian:


Lol, Jesus condemned the manner in which it was paid, because much emphasis was laid on it just like the present church is doing now, instead of other things, like this pastors laying emphasis on justice, mercy and faith.

When you read through that chapter, his annoyance towards it shows he was not a fan of it.
You don't get it. Jesus condemned the neglect of other charitable acts and not the payment of tithe. He was trying to say paying tithe alone is not enough. That doesn't mean you should condemn tithe paying. What you should condemn is the pastors neglect of other charitable acts.

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Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by Rexphobia(m): 9:28pm On Jan 08, 2017
I'm glad you seek the light, when you read the scriptures above did the Holy Spirit ministry anything to you? Or you just read it like a book?

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Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by Nobody: 4:49pm On Jan 17, 2017
ilynem:
Contrary to popular belief, tithing is not an old testament thingy. Jesus spoke about it in Matthew 23:23.

They were still under the law at that time
Christians are not under the law
Tithing was not money but agricultural products
Jesus didnt pay tithe neither did His disciples because they had no agricultural products
The tithe was for the levites .. priests .. widows etc
Now we Christians are the royal priesthood
Who are we paying tithes to ??

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Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by CecyAdrian(f): 8:42pm On Jan 17, 2017
ilynem:

You don't get it. Jesus condemned the neglect of other charitable acts and not the payment of tithe. He was trying to say paying tithe alone is not enough. That doesn't mean you should condemn tithe paying. What you should condemn is the pastors neglect of other charitable acts.

Am not condemning tithe paying, rather, I'm saying it's purpose is not in anyway being achieved, rather it's being twisted to suit the selfish desires of some people.

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Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by ilynem(m): 3:31am On Jan 18, 2017
CecyAdrian:


Am not condemning tithe paying, rather, I'm saying it's purpose is not in anyway being achieved, rather it's being twisted to suit the selfish desires of some people.
God gave a rule, obey it. If our pastors use it to satisfy selfish needs, God is the judge. You pay tax whether the government Channels your tax to the right thing or embezzles it. It doesn't stop you from paying tax because it's a law. Same goes with tithe paying.

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Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by petra1(m): 4:43am On Jan 18, 2017
CecyAdrian:
While reading through the scripture one day, I came across rules and regulations concerning tithe in Deuteronomy , I was shocked because I never knew that the issue of tithe was talked about anywhere else excerpt in Malachi 3:8. Now, when you take a look at Deuteronomy 14 when God was giving the children of Israelite rules and regulations, God explained the concept or reason for tithe to them and gave them rules to abide in regards to it, from verse 22 downwards explains it so well.

Then you also go to Deuteronomy 26:12 downwards, the same rule was also repeated, and an very sure that the reason why God said that we should bring our tithes and offering in Malachi 3: 10 was for the actualization of his rules and regulation in Deuteronomy, which is feeding the Levites, poor, widows and the needy in the society

So, now I ask, why do pastors prefer Malachi even to the extent of twisting it to favour their aims instead of giving their church members the full concept, rules and regulations regarding tithing which the Lord commanded in Deuteronomy.

No you're wrong . There were 2 major tithes in Israel . Actually 3 . But majorly 2 . The first one is the yearly tithes Which goes to the priesthood esclusively every year. While the other is every 3 years . And also the tithes that is eaten in a feast is different from the tithes given to God .

Deuteronomy 14:22
22 Thou shalt truly tithe all the increase of thy seed, that the field bringeth forth year by year.

Numbers 18:21
21 And, behold, I have given the children of Levi all the tenth in Israel for an inheritance, for their service which they serve, even the service of the tabernacle of the congregation.

Leviticus 27:30
30 And all the tithe of the land, whether of the seed of the land, or of the fruit of the tree, is the Lord's: it is holy unto the Lord.

The second one is every 3 years which is shared .

Deuteronomy 14:28
28 At the end of three years thou shalt bring forth all the tithe of thine increase the same year, and shalt lay it up within thy gates:


The third one is for family to cover for the feast expenses or so . I will double check on this . The tithes that is eaten in a feast is different from the tithes given to God

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Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by CecyAdrian(f): 6:00am On Jan 18, 2017
petra1:


No you're wrong . There were 2 major tithes in Israel . Actually 3 . But majorly 2 . The first one is the yearly tithes Which goes to the priesthood esclusively every year. While the other is every 3 years . And also the tithes that is eaten in a feast is different from the tithes given to God .

Deuteronomy 14:22
22 Thou shalt truly tithe all the increase of thy seed, that the field bringeth forth year by year.

Numbers 18:21
21 And, behold, I have given the children of Levi all the tenth in Israel for an inheritance, for their service which they serve, even the service of the tabernacle of the congregation.

Leviticus 27:30
30 And all the tithe of the land, whether of the seed of the land, or of the fruit of the tree, is the Lord's: it is holy unto the Lord.

The second one is every 3 years which is shared .

Deuteronomy 14:28
28 At the end of three years thou shalt bring forth all the tithe of thine increase the same year, and shalt lay it up within thy gates:


The third one is for family to cover for the feast expenses or so . I will double check on this . The tithes that is eaten in a feast is different from the tithes given to God

I see another format brewing cheesy but God is not the author of confusion. If you read through all these verses and chapters, you will realize that God was repeating the same thing, tithe is tithe, there is no specific tithe.

The only slight difference is that which is see in Deut 14:28 but it says instead of eating your tithe this time you should every 3 years set out the tithe for that 'Particular' year for the levites.

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Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by petra1(m): 6:05am On Jan 18, 2017
CecyAdrian:


I see another format brewing cheesy but God is not the author of confusion. If you read through all these verses and chapters, you will realize that God was repeating the same thing, tithe is tithe, there is no specific tithe.

All" the tithes to the priest and thou shall eat the tithe " do they sound the same ? YEARLY and every THREE years " do they sound same ?

1. The Levitical, or sacred tithe (Num. 18: 21, 24).

2. The tithe of the feasts (Deut. 14:22-27).

3. The tithe for the poor (Deut. 14:28, 29).

Who did Abraham eat his tithe with

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Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by CecyAdrian(f): 6:31am On Jan 18, 2017
petra1:


All" the tithes to the priest and thou shall eat the tithe " do they sound the same ? YEARLY and every THREE years " do they sound same ?

1. The Levitical, or sacred tithe (Num. 18: 21, 24).

2. The tithe of the feasts (Deut. 14:22-27).

3. The tithe for the poor (Deut. 14:28, 29).

Who did Abraham eat his tithe with

Oga, stop turning the whole thing around, God is not the author of confusion, read those verses and understand them, all the tithes mentioned in all the scriptures are all pointing to the same thing. It was fully explained in Deut, other places tithe was mentioned in the bible is just a brief touch on. The full reason, rules and regulation concerning tithe is in Deut 14, please don't try to twist it. Just because it was mentioned in those chapters doesn't mean it means differently. Tithe is tithe and rules and reasons guiding it is explained in Deut 14.


Now, after every 3 years, instead of eating your tithe that year, you should set it aside for the levites (Men of God) poor people, widows that they may eat and be satisfied and God will bless you. That is the only place, the rule concerning tithe changed. Every other places says the same thing with different language

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Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by CecyAdrian(f): 6:43am On Jan 18, 2017
ilynem:

God gave a rule, obey it. If our pastors use it to satisfy selfish needs, God is the judge. You pay tax whether the government Channels your tax to the right thing or embezzles it. It doesn't stop you from paying tax because it's a law. Same goes with tithe paying.

Please, what was the rule, remind me...Continue reasoning that way angry, I won't even try to counter what you just said now, just continue

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Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by jnrbayano(m): 7:51am On Jan 18, 2017
ilynem:

God gave a rule, obey it. If our pastors use it to satisfy selfish needs, God is the judge. You pay tax whether the government Channels your tax to the right thing or embezzles it. It doesn't stop you from paying tax because it's a law. Same goes with tithe paying.

Sorry to ask.

What if I tell you I'm a pastor, what can stop you from giving me your January tithe?

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Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by ilynem(m): 8:23am On Jan 18, 2017
CecyAdrian:


Please, what was the rule, remind me...Continue reasoning that way angry, I won't even try to counter what you just said now, just continue
If you don't want to pay tithe, there is absolutely no compulsion. Those who pay know what they gain and they aren't complaining.

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Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by petra1(m): 9:05am On Jan 18, 2017
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Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by petra1(m): 9:12am On Jan 18, 2017
CecyAdrian:

Oga, stop turning the whole thing around, God is not the author of confusion, read those verses and understand them, all the tithes mentioned in all the scriptures are all pointing to the same thing. It was fully explained in Deut, other places tithe was mentioned in the bible is just a brief touch on.


Even Jewish Rabbis will tell you there were different tithes . This article

Biblical scholars have seen the differences in these sources concerning the recipients of the tithe as due to the social background of two separate sources, each having its own applications. Throughout the Rabbinic literature, however, the sources are harmonized and the following system emerges.

Terumah
The tithes have to be given from corn, wine, and oil by biblical law and from fruit and vegetables by Rabbinic law. The farmer first separates from the yield a portion (a sixtieth, fiftieth, or fortieth at the farmer’s discretion), known as terumah (‘heave offering’ or ‘gift’). This is given to a Kohen (priest) and is treated as sacred food in that it must not be eaten when the priest is in a state of ritual contamination or when the terumah itself has suffered contamination. Nor may it be eaten by a non-Kohen. tithing

Three Kinds of Maaser
A tenth of the remainder of the yield, known as maaser rishon, ‘the first tithe,’ is then separated and given to a Levite. The Levite, in turn, separates a tenth of his tithe and this, known as terumat maaser, is given to a Kohen to be treated with the same degree of sanctity as the original terumah, The portion given to the Levite has no sanctity and may be eaten by an ordinary Israelite.

The farmer separates a tenth of the reminder of his yield, known as maser sheni, ‘the second tithe.’ This has to be taken to Jerusalem and consumed there in a spirit of sanctity. If it is too difficult to take the second tithe to Jerusalem, it can be redeemed by substituting for it a sum of money which is then taken to Jerusalem and food and drink purchased with it to be consumed there.

Find the link below :http://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/tithing/

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Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by CecyAdrian(f): 9:36am On Jan 18, 2017
petra1:


Even Jewish Rabbis will tell you there were different tithes . This article



Find the link below :http://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/tithing/


I believe what I read in the bible and not what some Rabbi who obviously was trying to defend his source of income.

It's there in the bible white and black, God is not the author of confusion.

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Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by Nobody: 10:15am On Jan 18, 2017
petra1:


Even Jewish Rabbis will tell you there were different tithes . This article



Find the link below :http://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/tithing/


I read all these and i see ... law law law
Are Christians under the law or under grace ??
Tithe doesnt include money .. like Jesus will pay and teach His disciples to do likewise

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Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by petra1(m): 10:43am On Jan 18, 2017
Junia:


I read all these and i see ... law law law
Are Christians under the law or under grace ??
Tithe doesnt include money .. like Jesus will pay and teach His disciples to do likewise


Christians are not under the law but under grace

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Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by Nobody: 10:45am On Jan 18, 2017
petra1:


Christians are not under the law but under grace
Good .. Meaning no paying of tithe

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Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by BushWickBill: 11:16am On Jan 18, 2017
stainlink:
There is the tendency that Malachi is more pastor centered than Deuteronomy
You lie sir.

Where did you get this piece of horse dung from?
Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by petra1(m): 1:33pm On Jan 18, 2017
Junia:


Good ..
Meaning no paying of tithe

Why not ? It's an eternal principle . Just like offering , prayers ,almsgiving etc.

Can you answer this question? Do you steal because you're not under the law? . Do you kill and covet ?

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Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by annunaki2(m): 1:55pm On Jan 18, 2017
petra1:


Why not ? It's an eternal principle . Just like offering , prayers ,almsgiving etc.

Can you answer this question? Do you steal because you're not under the law? . Do you kill and covet ?

Where in the bible is tithes called an eternal principle and why is biblical tithing different from the fraudulent type preached in churches today?

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