darkenkach:


Was I talking about Jesus?

darkenkach:


Was I talking about Jesus?

davidif:


You guys are hilarious. You think you can tell God to kill someone for you as if he didn't send his son to the world to be brutally murdered for them also.

You remind me of a woman i overheard who was praying for God to punish her husband. I was laughing as if God doesn't have his own mind but just exists to give you what you wish for at anytime. Don't you know that God actually has his own plans and his own desires and that if yours don't match his he will not give it to you? God is not a genie who exists to just fulfill your desires amigo. That's why you pray that you are in his will and your will becomes his. That's part of being renewed in your mind.

Intrepid01:



My friend you are very right.....atleast to the level of your knowledge...I know you have spoken based on the depth of information you have garthered over the years and your understanding about God....

But for a moment pause and listen.....to correct you nothing in my post referred to praying against individuals..those who pray the prayers of death, pray against Spirits, principalities and powers of darkness....

Human beings are never the problem but dark powers and principalities that hide behind humans to afflict humans....they are the ones that prayers of death are directed at.......they are the spirits and powers that were cast out of heaven as narrated in the book of genesis...those ones you can not pray for, but pray against.


Your fellow human that is jealous of you, takes up petty fights against you are not enemies , they are the ones you pray to God to change them to a better person.

Junia:


Brother .. the devil and his agents are the real enemies. These demons possess people and they use them to torment your life. The people are just ignorant. Just pray that those people encounter Christ so that the demons can be casted out of them. And pray against the works of these people. Thus whatever the demons use them to do will not affect your life. No Christian is expected to kill. No .. it doesnt demonstrate love

davidif:


You guys are hilarious. You think you can tell God to kill someone for you as if he didn't send his son to the world to be brutally murdered for them also.

You remind me of a woman i overheard who was praying for God to punish her husband. I was laughing as if God doesn't have his own mind but just exists to give you what you wish for at anytime. Don't you know that God actually has his own plans and his own desires and that if yours don't match his he will not give it to you? God is not a genie who exists to just fulfill your desires amigo. That's why you pray that you are in his will and your will becomes his. That's part of being renewed in your mind.

ReneeNuttall:


take ur sermon to the church were its needed.

bebe2:


Same thing he meant when he said u should pray for ur enemies.

Same thing he meant when he said he will prepare a table before you in their presence. So when u kill all of them, how is God going to fulfill that promise if no enemy is remaining

I beg naija pple make una suffrey, it's coming embarrassing no be only una dey for their planet oo

Realhommie:
Btw, I didn't mention kill ooooo.. Lol


And you didn't answer my question .. "Open your mouth wide, and will fill it" .. What did God mean in that passage? It's in Ps 81 vs 10, you insinuated I quoted outta context.

Realhommie:
How does my POV correlate with the woman's prayer point? Did you try to find out from the lady even why she made that prayer and maybe try correcting her? That's btw.

Now lemme paint a picture for you, first of can God kill because of his elect? I'll leave you to answer that.

So there was a man who belonged to a secret society, he joined for wealth and protection, he had given his mother, wife and 2 kids at different intervals over the years as sacrifices for renewal of his protection (power) and replenishment of his wealth.. Now it was time to make another sacrifice, he had just a brother (younger) and obviously it had to be him.. This brother of the occult man nothing seemed to be working for him so one day he located a church and the pastor gave him a revelation saying his destiny was being used by his elder brother that's the cause of his predicament. He was delivered and things began to move fine with him.. He tried to get his brother to change from his evil ways all to no avail, he kept praying for him still to have a change of heart and repent unknowing to him the brother had given a date in their kingdom for the sacrifice of his only bro to be made. But because the younger was now in Christ and had become a new creature hence no weapon formed against him shall prosper the sacrifice backfired and the elder one paid dearly with his life..

Now who arose and fought for the younger one, he had no idea what transpired?? If not God i want to know who please... And if God would you say he killed the elder one or not?

Realhommie:
Bros but i didn't mention kill in my post you quoted.. Infact we're saying same thing i believe, else what does it mean to subdue the will of the enemies using prayer as a weapon?

dragon2:


Thank you my brother.Those who pray against their enemies have little faith in God. What will be the manner of shame if you pray against someone and find that person in heaven because someone else prayed for his redemption as Christ suggests?.What will we say to Christ who redeemed us.?

Realhommie:
Of course I have my own Bible and i understand that passage very well..

The question here is "what action would you take against an unrepentant enemy"?

Also remember that prayer is a weapon

and according to 2 cor 10:4 "The weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty through God in the pulling down of every stronghold"

So in every spiritual warfare prayer is the weapon we use to subdue the will of the enemies, if there were no enemies, the ones of high calling, agents of satan then the bible would never have made mention of it..

Besides, that verse he just used for illustration and not because he lacked understanding of the passage.

ReneeNuttall:
the Bible says,suffer not a witch to live,so YES I pray they DIE

East2West:


Good to here that but you could have quoted in full not extracting just part to defend your course.



Let's not try to qualify enemy. The scriptures is clear about who enemy is. Nothing like "unrepentant enemy".

If he can repent then he's no more an "enemy". He is an enemy because he isn't repenting.

So the same scriptures apply to all. Love your Enemy (the one you see as enemy).




I really done understand this. You will have to give me scriptures and verse that refer to prayer as a weapon.



2cor 10:4 was never about prayer nor about fighting you seen enemy.

All that are mentioned in that context referred to knowledge against.

- strongholds
- imagination
- high thing against the KNOWLEDGE
- thought

Not humans, not your colleague who doesn't like your face, not that man trying to jazz you

It's a stand against the gospel, the knowledge of God, the power of resurrection.



You may have to do further study about who the enemy is as given in the scriptures, the one you are to stand against. Then you will realise the context of the enemy in Matt.

This will really help. Take time to go through it.

https://www.nairaland.com/3599465/enemy-praying-against-people




Well his or your illustrations must not contradict the stand of the scriptures, quoting out of context is a great killer of meanings and interpretation of words. It will be better to just stay with and quote all that was written than giving illustration that changes the true meaning of the context.

bebe2:


Pls wats the name of the movie?

bebe2:

No, I quoted u but was asking a general rhetorical question.
No wahala jare, kill them with kindness,

ReneeNuttall:

so if u don't insult me ur message won't be delivered right? I only gave my own point and u are telling me yo grow up,may God help u

Ifebazz:

I told you to grow up because I just realized how much patience Jesus had seeing so many people wallow in abject blindness.You guys only quote scriptures to suit your arguments but not reality of the essence of Christianity. I hear Matthew 5:38-48 only when the pastors are trying to squeeze out the money from the people's pocket, but once it gets to actual prayers, all you hear is "kill them", "enemies die".
Has any of those bigots called pastors ever meditated on the aforementioned text, do they duel on it as they would "die by fire"? Of course not. All they are after is your fears and worries which according to Renè Raymonds (James Hardley Chase) said, "fear is the key that unlocks the pocket of the rich" and by extension, the poor.
Development wouldn't come to Africa until we start seeing beyond our noses. Beyond 'they are hating me' (like anyone even notices you at all. Learn to live and let's live.

darkenkach:


Was I talking about Jesus?

ReneeNuttall:

pls take ur sermon to the church, I don't need it.

Ifebazz:

You so need it like a second foot if you still have such notion about your faith you claim to profess.

darkenkach:
Yes ooo infact, my prayer have sent one of my enemy to comma in London for the past two weeks.