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Re: Pastors And Controversies...kumuyi's Example by vislabraye(m): 10:30pm On Apr 02, 2017
Xavier9ja:
Am sorry to say this but kumuyi is the only preacher I admire, cherish and respect in the whole universe. I don't attend deeper life but this man teaches the real word of God, he preaches the bible from cover to cover, he is humble and he would have lived a flambouyant lifestyle if he wanted to but cos of his understanding of the word of God he is living a simple life which has made him excel spiritually. I am a sinner and I pray for Gods grace to turn away from my bad ways and I hope to have an encounter with papa kumuyi someday.

You don't need to be sorry dfor stating your opinion. But I hope you do as he preaches !

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Re: Pastors And Controversies...kumuyi's Example by otemdomino: 11:09pm On Apr 02, 2017
ipreach:

On a certain day some years ago, Pastor W.F. Kumuyi was aflight en route Nigeria after ministering at a crusade abroad.

On the plane he sat by a chap who initiated a discussion. In the course of the discussion, this guy made Deeper Life Bible Church, its members, mode of dressing and several other aspects of the church the topic of discussion. He took his time to disparage Kumuyi's church and members while Pastor Kumuyi just smiled away.

At some point in the discussion the guy asked that they exchange acquaintances. He introduced himself and asked Kumuyi to do same. To his utmost surprise, he was not just sitting side by side with the General Superintendent of the Deeper Christian Life Ministry but also had spent over an hour castigating him and his church, unknowingly.

After his exclamations, he asked Kumuyi why he never put up any defence or express disapproval of his critical attitude towards his church and members. And Kumuyi just smiled and replied there was no need...and the man was inspired to give his life to Christ.

I pray our pastors who are currently embroiled in recent attacks on their persons and personalities would learn from Papa Kumuyi.

Take note:

You don't fight your battles, God does.

You do not need to be asked to forgive, you forgive.

No man can pull you down, except you allow him.

The church cannot be destroyed by Satan and his army of demons and humans. Never!

It's only in lifting up Christ will all men be drawn to Him not in defending ourselves.

IF THERE'S ANYONE TO DEFEND, IT IS JESUS AND JESUS ALONE.

IF THERE'S ANY VIRTUE, IT'S HIS FORGIVING LOVE.

forged story which actually originated from kumuyi the scammer himself. That man can appeal yo your emotions by cheap cheap stories eeh.

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Re: Pastors And Controversies...kumuyi's Example by otemdomino: 11:11pm On Apr 02, 2017
michaelwilli:
if u knw deeper lifers, u must knw kumuyi.

Papa y u lyin?
Oh, so u also noticed the lies ba. They can't deceive us all cheesy
Re: Pastors And Controversies...kumuyi's Example by otemdomino: 11:21pm On Apr 02, 2017
cathodekazim:


y hasnt kumuyi bn allegated or accused of any wrongdoing

must it always b suleiman

afflictions dnt just rise
TV is a devil box. TV then later became a box of Yahweh in Kumuyi's churches cheesy
Members used their sweat and money to build university and high schools. Kumuyi the thief sidelined them and hiked school fee. Now the so called unbelievers are the ones in those schools.
Kumuyi the master miracle forger and storyteller. The potbellied thief.
No one is allowed in Deeperlife to wear earring and celebrate marriage, but Kumuyi allowed his own daughter in law to do so. Earring is a sin for others to wear,but not for Kumuyi's own family members cheesy
Re: Pastors And Controversies...kumuyi's Example by PsychopathicG: 11:48pm On Apr 02, 2017
His market is sure for him, Garri no need advert. How old is the boy wey baba wey dey represent 2000years of Christ+at least 21 kings in Ife+ 500 years in Mecca and so many more influential civilizations his people have been through. One small boy go come talk, you go come dey answer. The man has at least 5 doctrines/answers every week that would give some people's ancestors headache. His connect runs soo deep into the earth, wide around the world,high along the pyramid and old along the ages(his 4D is still with him). His people only watch him on TV,no one else. If he tightens his game and rebuke something for his network in the body of Christ and the 4 dimensions,the vibe in the hood would change, why they doing this to ma people. They messing up the atmosphere with Enoch's trial, now they are sampling opinion about Kumuyi. This topic reeks of Dan Fodio's Mummy, somebody would harvest now and start planning another news. Bad one, yeah? Cos Abu had 2 fake certs in a week. Who are you with, Seun, lalasticlala and co. You said your holding time is forever, to who? Who's your leader? Which ruling house they with, Pharaoh/David/Alwaleed/Ambani/Rockefeller/Indimi/? Your too butty, as influential and eye opening as Nairaland was, it looks like a botland or a blogger's haven, unlike the days of 43things, you don't inspire again, it's all about the mulla. The people are groaning, they are growing, send them relevant knowledge, not militants who don't fight for the source we see.
So much irrelevant stories in a world where Syria is an oven, and the ripples are coming. Shey kumuyi go protect person, when Allah comes with his full force, he'll merge and morph na, post wider contexts joor. Expand Nairaland na, Shey you don't see
Re: Pastors And Controversies...kumuyi's Example by PsychopathicG: 12:04am On Apr 03, 2017
dajooe:


You mean there are still people bold enough to say they're atheists? Ooh! May your eyes be flooded with light.

So that he can go blind abi. You want to strongarm him like y'all did Saul of tarsus abi? Play fair for once na, all your people are converted because of one bad thing, Which you prolly sow into the matrix once in a while? You have sent Zuchabech, our head has blown his mast, send sergei and Larry, we would scatter it too. This movement would free Africa (maybe into another chain) into freeedom's temporary chain, our own heaven is coming,go back to your source and see the secrets Jesus used on the world. Egypt is still strong, Allah is a everwilling illing opportunist
Re: Pastors And Controversies...kumuyi's Example by Haddock(m): 12:09am On Apr 03, 2017
michaelwilli:
if u knw deeper lifers, u must knw kumuyi.

Papa y u lyin?

undecided No mind the pastor-worshipper. Lying to "help" his pastor look good
Re: Pastors And Controversies...kumuyi's Example by PsychopathicG: 12:10am On Apr 03, 2017
dajooe:


You mean there are still people bold enough to say they're atheists? Ooh! May your eyes be flooded with light.

So that he can go blind abi. You want to strongarm him like y'all did Saul of tarsus abi? Play fair for once na, all your people are converted because of one bad thing, Which you prolly sow into the matrix once in a while? You have sent Zuchabech, our head has blown his mast, send sergei and Larry, we would scatter it too. This movement would free Africa (maybe into another chain) into freeedom's temporary chain, our own heaven is coming,go back to your source and see the secrets Jesus used on the world. Egypt is still strong, Allah is an everwilling slavemaster, we let him tie you up for a thousand. But your just a speck of dust inthe pyramidal stones. Keep talking, we gonna keep showinng your lazy eyes the truth. Your so full of the awe your knid spent nine months in.
Re: Pastors And Controversies...kumuyi's Example by omojeesu(m): 4:19am On Apr 03, 2017
Xavier9ja:
Am sorry to say this but kumuyi is the only preacher I admire, cherish and respect in the whole universe. I don't attend deeper life but this man teaches the real word of God, he preaches the bible from cover to cover, he is humble and he would have lived a flambouyant lifestyle if he wanted to but cos of his understanding of the word of God he is living a simple life which has made him excel spiritually. I am a sinner and I pray for Gods grace to turn away from my bad ways and I hope to have an encounter with papa kumuyi someday.

You're very near to the Kingdom of God!
You can give your life to Jesus even now.
He loves you. I do too.
Re: Pastors And Controversies...kumuyi's Example by omojeesu(m): 4:22am On Apr 03, 2017
otemdomino:

TV is a devil box. TV then later became a box of Yahweh in Kumuyi's churches cheesy
Members used their sweat and money to build university and high schools. Kumuyi the thief sidelined them and hiked school fee. Now the so called unbelievers are the ones in those schools.
Kumuyi the master miracle forger and storyteller. The potbellied thief.
No one is allowed in Deeperlife to wear earring and celebrate marriage, but Kumuyi allowed his own daughter in law to do so. Earring is a sin for others to wear,but not for Kumuyi's own family members cheesy

Instead look to Jesus...
Re: Pastors And Controversies...kumuyi's Example by emmybuzy: 5:13am On Apr 03, 2017
This is a nice write up but totally different from those people you are referring to.Considering it from Christian perspective FORGIVENESS is key but I will like to point out some points in support of the pastors generally in Nigeria. We are really comfortable if pastors are insulted or false informations are written about them.

Some will say, let him come and defend himself and if he remain silence, the same set of people will say he is not innocent and that is why he is not saying anything.

It is good to allow God to fight for us but this need to be stopped. Let every bloggers have their facts before going ahead to publish false information just to get more reader and in turn destroying others. If other pastors like Oyedepo and Adeboye are not saying anything does not mean others will be silence.

Can I ask if anyone has written an article to support Bishop Oyedepo and Pastor Adeboye when Kemi called the two of them gay.

Christians suffer all but if it is other way round. You will have seen all manner of bad comments.

Please, don't let us be one sided and let be positive in our reasoning on sensitive issues that can affect millions of people.

This is my take on this issue. If truly she is saying the truth, let the court decide on that with her proofs and let us stop this fake accusation on men of God just because they must forgive and be like Christ.

I will ask this sincere question please, assuming the pastor has be silence about this issue all this while, what will you have think about him?

Will you have written an article to support him?

Don't you think he need to defend himself?

Will you not be among those people that will be cursing him for being a bad example to the body of Christ?

How do you want him to prove his innocence?

He should wait for God to fight for him right while causing issue among his congregation and body of Christ

He should allow this to affect the church of God

Everyone has his or her point on any issue but let think of both side.

Insults are high welcome allow but this is just my own opinion on this matter. Thank you and God bless.










ipreach:

On a certain day some years ago, Pastor W.F. Kumuyi was aflight en route Nigeria after ministering at a crusade abroad.

On the plane he sat by a chap who initiated a discussion. In the course of the discussion, this guy made Deeper Life Bible Church, its members, mode of dressing and several other aspects of the church the topic of discussion. He took his time to disparage Kumuyi's church and members while Pastor Kumuyi just smiled away.

At some point in the discussion the guy asked that they exchange acquaintances. He introduced himself and asked Kumuyi to do same. To his utmost surprise, he was not just sitting side by side with the General Superintendent of the Deeper Christian Life Ministry but also had spent over an hour castigating him and his church, unknowingly.

After his exclamations, he asked Kumuyi why he never put up any defence or express disapproval of his critical attitude towards his church and members. And Kumuyi just smiled and replied there was no need...and the man was inspired to give his life to Christ.

I pray our pastors who are currently embroiled in recent attacks on their persons and personalities would learn from Papa Kumuyi.

Take note:

You don't fight your battles, God does.

You do not need to be asked to forgive, you forgive.

No man can pull you down, except you allow him.

The church cannot be destroyed by Satan and his army of demons and humans. Never!

It's only in lifting up Christ will all men be drawn to Him not in defending ourselves.

IF THERE'S ANYONE TO DEFEND, IT IS JESUS AND JESUS ALONE.

IF THERE'S ANY VIRTUE, IT'S HIS FORGIVING LOVE.

Re: Pastors And Controversies...kumuyi's Example by Nobody: 6:58am On Apr 03, 2017
BlackAfrican:
Instead of peace, religion in Nigeria has brought nothing but confusion and chaos

thats the issue, we tend to Practice Religion than Christianity
Re: Pastors And Controversies...kumuyi's Example by Nobody: 7:01am On Apr 03, 2017
otemdomino:

TV is a devil box. TV then later became a box of Yahweh in Kumuyi's churches cheesy
Members used their sweat and money to build university and high schools. Kumuyi the thief sidelined them and hiked school fee. Now the so called unbelievers are the ones in those schools.
Kumuyi the master miracle forger and storyteller. The potbellied thief.
No one is allowed in Deeperlife to wear earring and celebrate marriage, but Kumuyi allowed his own daughter in law to do so. Earring is a sin for others to wear,but not for Kumuyi's own family members cheesy

This Family Member in question is a grown man, an adult that can do whatever he likes, i dont think the dad should be held responsible.
& pertaining marriage celebration, broz you got it wrong... Ive been to most of their weddings & its been celebrated moderately.
Re: Pastors And Controversies...kumuyi's Example by karnap(m): 10:51pm On Apr 03, 2017
PROPHETmichael:


If you are travelling to New York tomorrow and Stephanie Otobo happened to know your departure's time, booked her flight to correspond with yours and on getting to New York, both of you have your passport stamped showing the same date, flight no....my question to you is, does it mean you and Stephanie went to New York together?
NA ME U DEY ASK?
OK WHAT OF THE HOTEL SHE MENTION IN IKEJA, WHERE SHE WAS GIVEN COCROACH TO EAT ,
Re: Pastors And Controversies...kumuyi's Example by Sinkills: 8:26am On Apr 04, 2017
Afam4eva:
I grew up mostly as a Deeper Life member and i left because of their doctrines. However, i think Kumuyi is someone that other so called men of Gd should look up to when coducting themselves. I'm not saying tat Kumuyi is a saint but as far as being humble and meek goes, he thumps all the Pastors that i've ever come across.
Every genuinely born again and right-living child of God is a saint. Please what are the 'doctrines' of Deeper Life that made you leave such a wonderful Church where the truth of the Scriptures is emphasized under an exemplary rare gem of a pastor? This is not to imply that there are no other good Churches. But I am interested to know sir.
Re: Pastors And Controversies...kumuyi's Example by Sinkills: 8:34am On Apr 04, 2017
Xavier9ja:
Am sorry to say this but kumuyi is the only preacher I admire, cherish and respect in the whole universe. I don't attend deeper life but this man teaches the real word of God, he preaches the bible from cover to cover, he is humble and he would have lived a flambouyant lifestyle if he wanted to but cos of his understanding of the word of God he is living a simple life which has made him excel spiritually. I am a sinner and I pray for Gods grace to turn away from my bad ways and I hope to have an encounter with papa kumuyi someday.
To God be the glory. May the mercy and grace of God reach you and other sincere sinners to repent, accept Christ and be saved before it is too late I J N, Amen.

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Re: Pastors And Controversies...kumuyi's Example by Sinkills: 8:38am On Apr 04, 2017
obyrich:
He has the anointing of holiness while the others had that of prosperity and swag. If you attack the image of a holy man, you won't inflict any damage whereas an attack on the image of a prosperity preacher will affect his business and drive his customers away. So they need to defend their business jealously.
Hmmmmm!
Re: Pastors And Controversies...kumuyi's Example by Sinkills: 8:45am On Apr 04, 2017
ademega:
How can we verify this story?
No way.

All your write up is the reason why fulani and others are killing Christians like Christmas chicken without resistance.

Those who brought Christianity to us are not taking any attack lightly.
So, what are we self
Pastor Kumuyi told the story himself in one of his messages and I heard him myself. I don't see any correlation between the write-up and the persecution of Christians as you implied. The op wrote to encourage other ministers of the gospel to emulate the exemplary lifestyle of pastor Kumuyi. Do you have any problem with that?
Re: Pastors And Controversies...kumuyi's Example by Sinkills: 8:53am On Apr 04, 2017
majekdom2:
Why would you expect kumuyi to heat up an arguement. Will wining or loosing make any difference or change the deeper life church. Different context as with a criminal case as kemi's. Do you even understand the meaning of controversy? The person in this case only aired his thoughts and opinions... thats freedom of speech.
Publishing scandal and fake news to defame people is a crime. Totally different. May God grant Nigerians wisdom and intelligence.
There is no doubt that it is a crime to publish scandals and fake news to defame people. But do you think that people have not published scandals and fake news about pastor Kumuyi in his 53 years of being a Christian and fearless preacher?
Re: Pastors And Controversies...kumuyi's Example by Sinkills: 8:58am On Apr 04, 2017
BlackAfrican:
Instead of peace, religion in Nigeria has brought nothing but confusion and chaos
True sir. That is the difference between religion and Christ in one's heart. Religion brings confusion and chaos while Christ within brings salvation from sin and its consequences, peace, love, health, happiness, prosperity, fulfilment and heaven.
Re: Pastors And Controversies...kumuyi's Example by PROPHETmichael: 2:22pm On Apr 04, 2017
karnap:

NA ME U DEY ASK?
OK WHAT OF THE HOTEL SHE MENTION IN IKEJA, WHERE SHE WAS GIVEN COCROACH TO EAT ,

Abeg no vex oo but park well.
Re: Pastors And Controversies...kumuyi's Example by karnap(m): 6:57am On Apr 05, 2017
PROPHETmichael:


Abeg no vex oo but park well.
I NO PARK NEAR YOU JAREEE,IF U WANT PASS,COME AND BE GOING.
Re: Pastors And Controversies...kumuyi's Example by Sinkills: 11:36am On Apr 05, 2017
sammyomal:


This Family Member in question is a grown man, an adult that can do whatever he likes, i dont think the dad should be held responsible.
& pertaining marriage celebration, broz you got it wrong... Ive been to most of their weddings & its been celebrated moderately.
Thank you very much sir. Don't mind mind that atteist. He is not happy to read that pastor Kumuyi does not have a scandal and is desperate to manufacture some against him. You forgot to let him know that pastor Kumuyi like other genuine men of God, preaches against the materialism, immorality, porn and violence in the TV. That does not mean the same TV as a mass medium cannot be employed to reach millions with the gospel. Once again thanks bro.

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Re: Pastors And Controversies...kumuyi's Example by Sinkills: 12:01pm On Apr 05, 2017
otemdomino:

TV is a devil box. TV then later became a box of Yahweh in Kumuyi's churches cheesy
Members used their sweat and money to build university and high schools. Kumuyi the thief sidelined them and hiked school fee. Now the so called unbelievers are the ones in those schools.
Kumuyi the master miracle forger and storyteller. The potbellied thief.
No one is allowed in Deeperlife to wear earring and celebrate marriage, but Kumuyi allowed his own daughter in law to do so. Earring is a sin for others to wear,but not for Kumuyi's own family members cheesy
TV is an evil box if what a Christian watches is immorality, pornography, corruption, voodoo, vanity, violence and materialism. Such is inimical to the purity of heart that is a basic requirement for heaven. But the same TV is a good box if it is channeled towards reaching multitudes with the saving gospel so that they would not be damned in eternity. The Deeper Life Schhols are not free. There are children of Deeper Life members and children of other Christians as well unbelievers there so long as you can afford it. Or are you insinuating that it should be for only Deeper Life members so that you can accuse pastor Kumuyi of discrimination? Even if it is just for Deeper Life members, the spaces are limited, so every member's child cannot be there. As for Deeper Life weddings, I think you are talking out of ignorance. You need to attend one as well the reception that follows. If your mother, wife, daugher or friend is interested in putting on earings to Deeper Life, she is most welcome sir. You are obviously not happy that people have not associated any scandal with pastor W F Kumuyi and you are desperate to manufacture some. Thanks as I await another onslaught against this revered servant of God, a gift to our generation. On the alternative, you can repent of your sins and surrender your life to Christ now. He is merciful. He will forgive and receive you.
Re: Pastors And Controversies...kumuyi's Example by An2elect2(f): 6:27pm On Apr 08, 2017
TI1919:
He collect tithe and offering and people here are calling him a righteous man and many other unnecessary names. My view is very simple: Any man that collects tithe in this new covenant time is an anti Christ because Jesus never collect tithe, his apostles never did.
Amen to this! Notice everyone ascribes his "righteousness" to his "humility" and "preaching of holiness" and not Christ! That's how you know false spirits.

"Only the proud boast in their humility"

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