givbitcoin:


Maybe history will repeat itself soon. To the Southerners that love causing problems, tell me, are you going to fight by throwing pure water at us? Or will you haul stones? I laugh at you

Proudlyngwa:


Minority yes, similar culture no.
Where are you from

GoroTango:
Not according to IPOB

givbitcoin:


[s]Before the advent of colonialism, we had defeated all what is today known as Northern Nigeria. We conquered, to a large extent, the ancient Yoruba kingdom. We put Ibos to rout during their Biafra craze.

In all these, we said no victor, no vanquished. That is magnanimity. Tell me, where else in this whole world has a nation conquered another in a fair battle and still choose to dine on the same table with them.

And here, the Yoruba have contaminated some ethnic groups with their disloyalty and backstabbing and everybody is talking nonsense[/s].

Ogbuefi2020:

Big lie, Igbos are culturally related to Ibibio than any other south south group, secondly, Aba is more coastal than Auchi, and not all south south are minorities as there is substantial igbo population in Rivers and Delta. There is nothing binding the south south. Its just a way to separate the minorities to avoid suspicion of domination which was done by the Igbos themselves

Proudlyngwa:
Both have failed, I agree, but which has failed more.

Proudlyngwa:

Lol similar culture and topography between akwaibom, cross river and Edo.
I laugh in swahili

Geographically you are from the south west.
Bringing politics into geographic landmarks was a tactical masters token to weaken the south eastern region.

Mujtahida:

We have to be proactive. Even in this space we can generate awareness for other Nigerians to see us how we want to be seen. We have for too long been appendages to the North in an unequal arrangement. I do not seek to propagate hate or division or contempt against anybody or section. I respect the Hausa man and the Fulani. But I realise that to tag us as North Central is to foist a fraud on us for purposes of political gains which do not in the truest sense bring about national development.

We should also use this thread to educate those in the South West, South East and deep South on the ethnic configurations and complexities of the middle belt and even the North so that their understanding can be broadened. Too many of them are shockingly and abysmally bereft of this critical knowledge and their viewing us through the prism of the North only further entrenches the power of the North.

In truth, a sober reflection on the middle belt will show that we are the hands and legs of the North. As unfortunate as it is, it was our fathers that formed the bulk of the rank and file that fought the civil war and ever since the war we have been hypnotised by some strange political spell to do the will of the North. We say No to that from henceforth. Our loyalty is to Nigeria because I believe(and I hope I am not wrong) that most of us from the Middlebelt love Nigeria and though we decry the present system we would gladly embrace a Nigeria that embraces all.

Let us create consciousness. Eventually behaviour will align with consciousness. I greet you all.

Kyase:
The state

Curlieweed:


Fair enough. Thanks for clarifying. I didn't want to prematurely accuse you of intellectual hypocrisy.


However, I doubt if most of us looking to secede from the current federation do so because we are worried about a dominant North. We simply want to build a genuine nation with people that share the same values, vision and history.

There are good people all over the planet (and bad individuals as well) but nations exist out of consent or desire to live together and the will to perpetuate the value of a common heritage in an undivided form. It has nothing to do with whether the other people (outside your nation) are good or bad ( even if you can use such simplistic descriptions on whole ethnicities).

Proudlyngwa:



Is it a geographic region or cultural region.

And where and where makes up the region.

IamaNigerianGuy:
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Are you trolling or you are serious ? Edo state I agree represents a compromise but there are many commonalities that make it logical to be in the South South.
1. We have oil wells and the largest inland gas reserve.
2. We share border and culture with Delta.
3. We share a common political history with Delta.
4.We have swampy terrain and even mangrove forests at Ologbo and Gelegele
4. There are a multiplicity of tribes and religions in Edo who all did not object to being grouped in the Niger Delta.

What is your point ?

IamaNigerianGuy:
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Are you trolling or you are serious ? Edo state I agree represents a compromise but there are many commonalities that make it logical to be in the South South.
1. We have oil wells and the largest inland gas reserve.
2. We share border and culture with Delta.
3. We share a common political history with Delta.
4.We have swampy terrain and even mangrove forests at Ologbo and Gelegele
4. There are a multiplicity of tribes and religions in Edo who all did not object to being grouped in the Niger Delta.

What is your point ?

AbuMaryam1:


Sir you are a confutionist. The agitators calls you northerner when the deal didn't suite them, and vice Verser. Kindly discuss the issue with David mark before coming to public domain. I'm sure you will realized where to put your blames.

tuniski:

From kwara to taraba and all the other minority tribes of kaduna,bauchi and Gombe. It is the entirety of ethnic minority tribes in the middle of the geography nigeria!

Ogbuefi2020:

Are you not tired of your attention whoring??

Ogbuefi2020:

Everything you are enumerating is meaningless, Edo was put into "South South" simply to separate you from yoruba and igbo, there is nothing common between the different states that make south south, whatever commonalities you share with delta more of such is even shared between delta and anambra, or between Imo and Rivers or Abia and RIvers and Akwa Ibom

Ogbuefi2020:

Everything you are enumerating is meaningless, Edo was put into "South South" simply to separate you from yoruba and igbo, there is nothing common between the different states that make south south, whatever commonalities you share with delta more of such is even shared between delta and anambra, or between Imo and Rivers or Abia and RIvers and Akwa Ibom

IamaNigerianGuy:


You are very funny. We have been seperate from the yoruba and Ibo since the mid west referendum. Are you conversant with any bit of Nigerian history ?

Ogbuefi2020:

before the creation of geopolitical zones, Midwest has already been dissolved into states (Edo and Delta). When the geopolitical grouping came up, it make more geographical sense to put Edo with southwest and cross river and Akwa Ibom in South east but there will be complain about domination by majority ethnic group, that was the only basis with which Edo can be in same zone with cross River, no similarity whatsoever. Moreover, you were only separated from yorubas during the Midwest Era, not Igbos, remember Dennis Osadebe, an igboman was the first to rule Midwest

IamaNigerianGuy:


You are very funny.
We have been separate from the yoruba since the Mid West referendum. We have never been part of Ibo. The Obi of Onitsha and Agbor were (are?) vassal to the Oba of Benin.

Are you conversant with any bit of Nigerian history ?

IamaNigerianGuy:


If Mid West was dissolved into Edo and Delta, when the time came for reformation it makes sense to you that Edo should go with Anambra right ?
Perhaps by that same reasoning, Delta should have gone with the middle belt.
How absurd. I thought you had a better argument.

Proudlyngwa:


Very correct, until we have true devolution of power at state levels, with local government chairmen and councilors knowing their responsibilities and limitations, there won't be any development.
What do you intend achieving with middle belt

Ogbuefi2020:

are you blind, i said it made sense for edo to be in southwest

Proudlyngwa:


So you are just a group of minority speaking people, not necessarily related by language or geography.
As I can't see the relationship between kwara and taraba

Kyase:
but do you know we are the must quiet region in the country.

tuniski:

The Denominator is minority tribes in the middle of the entity nigeria! Can u get it? We are always under same domination by the majority hausa/fulani north. Why is the South south so equally diverse with minority tribes recognized separately from yourbas of south west and igbos of south east?

IamaNigerianGuy:


No I am not. But your argument so far have been s.tu.pid and ignorant and if you knew a little bit of history you would know that the issue of where we belong has been settled by the historic MidWest referendum of 1963.
You an IBO man wants to tell me where I belong.
Osanobua laho!

I will not respond to your trolling again.

tuniski:

The Denominator is minority tribes in the middle of the entity nigeria! Can u get it? We are always under same domination by the majority hausa/fulani north. Why is the South south so equally diverse with minority tribes recognized separately from yourbas of south west and igbos of south east?