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Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by felixomor: 3:00pm On Aug 08, 2017 |
dalaman:Sharrap please So also, and likewise because some people believe Zuckerberg is an atheist when media says he is not, it means their Zuckerberg is different...ba.. Carry your simpleness away, please. 1 Like |
Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by felixomor: 3:02pm On Aug 08, 2017 |
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Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by dalaman: 3:08pm On Aug 08, 2017 |
felixomor: Name one person that claims Zuckerberg is an athiest. Is God Obatala that created the first man in Ile ife the same God as Yahweh that created the first man in the garden of Eden? |
Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by dalaman: 3:09pm On Aug 08, 2017 |
felixomor: Felixmoron. |
Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by felixomor: 3:12pm On Aug 08, 2017 |
dalaman: I told you before, even God never called Himself Yahweh You keep repeating foolishness... Kwantinue 1 Like |
Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by dalaman: 3:14pm On Aug 08, 2017 |
felixomor: You can't name one person that claims Zuckerberg is an atheist. God called himself Allah. It's inside the Koran his revealed book. |
Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by felixomor: 3:14pm On Aug 08, 2017 |
dalaman:Dullardmama, Do u have anything more meaningful left? So that I can adress more sensible comments? If so, make it quick 1 Like |
Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by dalaman: 3:16pm On Aug 08, 2017 |
felixomor: Felixmoron. How can you ever address anything? |
Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by felixomor: 3:17pm On Aug 08, 2017 |
dalaman: Ask Jack bizzle and even seun, They believe Mark is pretending because of politics.... There are even others who said it here on that famous thread...... Your argument is dead once again ... 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by felixomor: 3:18pm On Aug 08, 2017 |
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Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by hopefulLandlord: 3:20pm On Aug 08, 2017 |
dalaman: Theists say their god is outside logic and reason, I'm starting to think they're actually talking about themselves 2 Likes |
Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by dalaman: 3:20pm On Aug 08, 2017 |
felixomor: You are lying on them as usual. Mr lie lie. |
Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by felixomor: 3:22pm On Aug 08, 2017 |
dalaman: Prove it. Ediort I thought u said I knew no atheist, Yeye dey smell 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by tintingz(m): 4:01pm On Aug 08, 2017 |
felixomor:Do you believe Yahweh started his creation in Ile ife, do you believe in Obatala who created the world with clay, corn and chicken? When i said conflict, i dont mean name only, i meant everything about the Gods, Allah for example doesn't like people worshiping other Gods beside him, he is always angry about it, the punishment for it is hell fire. |
Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by tintingz(m): 4:15pm On Aug 08, 2017 |
dalaman:Lol. |
Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by felixomor: 4:28pm On Aug 08, 2017 |
tintingz: Sorry God never called Himself Yahweh. You may do well to educate yourself about that. God is not crazy about names. He is more concerned about our relationship with Him 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by KingEbukasBlog(m): 4:40pm On Aug 08, 2017 |
tintingz: Atheism does not deny the existence of the creator of the universe , it rejects its deification . Atheism does not seek to explain anything , it is NOT a scientific , logical , philosophical position so don't expect anything from it . Theism is concerned with deification , atheism is concerned with the rejection of deification(atheos , godless , I see nothing as a god ) . There are theists who reject the existence of the creator of the universe with the belief that deified entities aka gods are denizens of the universe . They believe that there is no conscious entity outside the universe . In short , The First Cause argument in its true sense is not really a THEISM vs ATHEISM argument , it becomes one IF and only if The First Cause is deified or see as a God . The same with the arguments or reasons to believe that extraterrestrial life exists . 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by tintingz(m): 5:40pm On Aug 08, 2017 |
KingEbukasBlog:Atheism has different definitions in their ideology and philosophy, they lack belief in God(s) since there are no evidence for a supernatural deity. They make use of logic, science, philosophy to support the in-existence of a supernatural deity. I can call my phone a god, deifying it and the thing is my phone exist but what happen when a supernatural god cant be found? Theism is concerned with deification , atheism is concerned with the rejection of deification(atheos , godless , I see nothing as a god ) .So what exactly is your point here? we are talking about a personal God in every religion, are they the same or different? There are theists who reject the existence of the creator of the universe with the belief that deified entities aka gods are denizens of the universe . They believe that there is no conscious entity outside the universe .Some deist believes in a personal God that need worship, they believe their God(the first cause) created everything and left them. In short , The First Cause argument in its true sense is not really a THEISM vs ATHEISM argument , it becomes one IF and only if The First Cause is deified or see as a God . The same with the arguments or reasons to believe that extraterrestrial life exists .Lol, so what if i decide to argue about the first cause even when it is not deify or see as a God, is there a law that said we should not argue about the first cause? |
Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by KingEbukasBlog(m): 6:21pm On Aug 08, 2017 |
tintingz: Is there a general consensus regarding the non existence of a supernatural deity ? No From science ? No From Philosophy ? No From Logic ? No Why then do you keep repeating this bullsheet ? Rejecting the existence of a supernatural being is not necessarily what atheism is . Like I earlier said , there are theists who reject the existence of a conscious separate entity outside the universe . One is an atheist when he does not see anything - abstract or concrete - as a deity . Simple If there is a greater universe outside this one and there are beings in them whose existence cannot be explained by science , shouldn't we call them supernatural beings ? 1 Like 1 Share
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Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by tintingz(m): 6:51pm On Aug 08, 2017 |
KingEbukasBlog:Lol, ideology differs, the more reason people argue about the existence/inexistence of a supernatural being. Why then do you keep repeating this bullsheet ?I don't think we have engaged in arguments before, so what bullshit am I repeating? Rejecting the existence of a supernatural being is not necessarily what atheism is . Like I earlier said , there are theists who reject the existence of a conscious separate entity outside the universe .So what if an atheist rejects the existence of a god, will you go and beat him? I'm not understanding, are you the one setting rules? The last time I checked atheism don't have rules. Atheism lack belief in god(s), lack there means they dont need any god. Most theist still believes there is a first cause. One is an atheist when he does not see anything - abstract or concrete - as a deity . SimpleAre you the Mr dictionary? If there is a greater universe outside this one and there are beings in them whose existence cannot be explained by science , shouldn't we call them supernatural beings ?Why should we call them or assume them to be supernatural being? |
Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by tintingz(m): 6:56pm On Aug 08, 2017 |
felixomor:You're shifting from the question I asked you, Is Olorun the Yoruba God the same as Yahweh the Hebrew God? Why are you not concern about the characters of these Gods? And for you info, you can't use the word Yahweh or Obatala when praying Islamic prayer solat(namaz). |
Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by Nobody: 7:18pm On Aug 08, 2017 |
I like, no...LOVE how half of this thread is just felixomor being flogged. I think this argument has been covered several times anyway, I also think your argument kingebuka was answered in another thread you made. I think one thing that might help you op is to realise that atheism is not a religion, the base commonality that atheists have is simply a lack of belief in god or gods, anyone is free to believe anything else they wish and still be atheist. |
Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by felixomor: 7:35pm On Aug 08, 2017 |
tintingz:You are the one shifting upandan Who are you calling Yahweh? |
Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by felixomor: 7:37pm On Aug 08, 2017 |
LightandDarkness: Always talking nonsense How does this your trash help atheism to explain the beginning of the universe? Mxsheww |
Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by tintingz(m): 7:42pm On Aug 08, 2017 |
felixomor:Jesus daddy. |
Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by butterflylion: 7:46pm On Aug 08, 2017 |
tintingz: Are you confused? The father of Jesus as you knew him was Joseph. Was Jesus called Jesus before he was born? |
Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by Nobody: 7:50pm On Aug 08, 2017 |
felixomor: Because there is a large diversity of opinions among atheists, atheism cannot and does not offer a single explanation for the origin of the universe, that is up to the individual atheist. Atheist A can believe the big bang theory is valid, Atheist B might believe the world was created from the sperm of an alien race in a separate universe. I would think the flogging you received on this thread was enough for you but don't worry, I am not in the mood for long arguments tonight |
Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by butterflylion: 7:52pm On Aug 08, 2017 |
LightandDarkness: Speak for yourself then. How would you say the universe came to be? Let's hear your own version of creation from your personal atheistic view. |
Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by tintingz(m): 7:54pm On Aug 08, 2017 |
butterflylion:According to Christians, the daddy of Jesus Christ is in heaven, the Jewish God. Before Jesus was born, an angle appeared to Mary to name the child Jesus. |
Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by Nobody: 7:55pm On Aug 08, 2017 |
butterflylion: As I said before, I am not interested. I have argued my position with many people on this thread before and I do not wish to sit and type page long repeats of arguments, defences etc I have stated before. If not that I had to laugh at the annihilation of Dr Omor I would have ignored this thread |
Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by butterflylion: 7:57pm On Aug 08, 2017 |
tintingz: You are still messing yourself up. According to Christians the father of J E S U S is Joseph. Before he was born was he known as Jesus? How can You lay claim to knowing his divine paternity when you never knew him before he was born and neither did you know his name before he was born and given an earthly name. Was he ever spiritually conceived to enable him have a spiritual father? |
Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by butterflylion: 7:59pm On Aug 08, 2017 |
LightandDarkness: So sorry but I have seen no annihilation being done here. All I see are just illogical comments being dropped by atheists. Since I am not privy to your previous arguments why not indulge me and share with me your view of how the universe began. |
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