dalaman:

[s]
He clearly gave you their differences he even stated their different creation stories as an example yet you chose to ascribe it to name only. So Yaweh that created Adam in the garden of Eden is the same as Obatala that started creation in Ille Ife with Oduduwa? According to you the only difference btw Jesus God and Dai lama God is name. Worst of all is that you still use logic in the same sentence. Wow![/s]

Sharrap please
So also, and likewise because some people believe Zuckerberg is an atheist when media says he is not, it means their Zuckerberg is different...ba..

Carry your simpleness away, please.

dalaman:


Felixmumu.

DullardMama and DullardPapa

Pristine!

felixomor:

Sharrap please
So also, and likewise because some people believe Zuckerberg is an atheist when media says he is not, it means their Zuckerberg is different...ba..

Carry your simpleness away, please.

Name one person that claims Zuckerberg is an athiest.

Is God Obatala that created the first man in Ile ife the same God as Yahweh that created the first man in the garden of Eden?

felixomor:

DullardMama and DullardPapa

Pristine!

Felixmoron.

dalaman:


Name one person that claims Zuckerberg is an athiest.

Is God Obatala that created the first man in Ile ife the same God as Yahweh that created the first man in the garden of Eden?

I told you before, even God never called Himself Yahweh
You keep repeating foolishness...

Kwantinue

felixomor:


I told you before, even God never called Himself Yahweh
You keep repeating foolishness...

Kwantinue

You can't name one person that claims Zuckerberg is an atheist.

God called himself Allah. It's inside the Koran his revealed book.

dalaman:


Felixmoron.

Dullardmama,
Do u have anything more meaningful left?
So that I can adress more sensible comments?

If so, make it quick

felixomor:

Dullardmama,
Do u have anything more meaningful left?
So that I can adress more sensible comments?

If so, make it quick

Felixmoron. How can you ever address anything?

dalaman:


You can't name one person that claims Zuckerberg is an atheist.

God called himself Allah. It's inside the Koran his revealed book.

Ask Jack bizzle and even seun,
They believe Mark is pretending because of politics....
There are even others who said it here on that famous thread......

Your argument is dead once again ...

dalaman:


Felixmoron. How can you ever address anything?

Empty as usual,

Next, please

dalaman:


He clearly gave you their differences he even stated their different creation stories as an example yet you chose to ascribe it to name only. So Yaweh that created Adam in the garden of Eden is the same as Obatala that started creation in Ille Ife with Oduduwa? According to you the only difference btw Jesus God and Dai lama God is name. Worst of all is that you still use logic in the same sentence. Wow!

Theists say their god is outside logic and reason, I'm starting to think they're actually talking about themselves

felixomor:


Ask Jack bizzle and even seun,
They believe Mark is pretending because of politics....
There are even others who said it here on that famous thread......

Your argument is dead once again ...

You are lying on them as usual. Mr lie lie.

dalaman:


You are lying on them as usual. Mr lie lie.

Prove it. Ediort
I thought u said I knew no atheist,

Yeye dey smell

felixomor:


I am sure your English name you is different also from your native name you...
They both have conflict also....
Wow, your logic is really good

Do you believe Yahweh started his creation in Ile ife, do you believe in Obatala who created the world with clay, corn and chicken?

When i said conflict, i dont mean name only, i meant everything about the Gods, Allah for example doesn't like people worshiping other Gods beside him, he is always angry about it, the punishment for it is hell fire.

dalaman:


Don't bother. He already knows. Just displaying his felixmoron credentials.

Lol.

tintingz:
Do you believe Yahweh started his creation in Ile ife, do you believe in Obatala who created the world with clay, corn and chicken?

When i said conflict, i dont mean name only, i meant everything about the Gods, Allah for example doesn't like people worshiping other Gods beside him, he is always angry about it, the punishment for it is hell fire.

Sorry God never called Himself Yahweh.
You may do well to educate yourself about that.

God is not crazy about names.
He is more concerned about our relationship with Him

tintingz:
Do you believe Yahweh started his creation in Ile ife, do you believe in Obatala who created the world with clay, corn and chicken?

When i said conflict, i dont mean name only, i meant everything about the Gods, Allah for example doesn't like people worshiping other Gods beside him, he is always angry about it, the punishment for it is hell fire.

Atheism does not deny the existence of the creator of the universe , it rejects its deification . Atheism does not seek to explain anything , it is NOT a scientific , logical , philosophical position so don't expect anything from it .

Theism is concerned with deification , atheism is concerned with the rejection of deification(atheos , godless , I see nothing as a god ) .

There are theists who reject the existence of the creator of the universe with the belief that deified entities aka gods are denizens of the universe . They believe that there is no conscious entity outside the universe .

In short , The First Cause argument in its true sense is not really a THEISM vs ATHEISM argument , it becomes one IF and only if The First Cause is deified or see as a God . The same with the arguments or reasons to believe that extraterrestrial life exists .

KingEbukasBlog:


Atheism does not deny the existence of the creator of the universe , it rejects its deification . Atheism does not seek to explain anything , it is NOT a scientific , logical , philosophical position so don't expect anything from it .

Atheism has different definitions in their ideology and philosophy, they lack belief in God(s) since there are no evidence for a supernatural deity.

They make use of logic, science, philosophy to support the in-existence of a supernatural deity.

I can call my phone a god, deifying it and the thing is my phone exist but what happen when a supernatural god cant be found?

Theism is concerned with deification , atheism is concerned with the rejection of deification(atheos , godless , I see nothing as a god ) .

So what exactly is your point here? we are talking about a personal God in every religion, are they the same or different?

There are theists who reject the existence of the creator of the universe with the belief that deified entities aka gods are denizens of the universe . They believe that there is no conscious entity outside the universe .

Some deist believes in a personal God that need worship, they believe their God(the first cause) created everything and left them.

In short , The First Cause argument in its true sense is not really a THEISM vs ATHEISM argument , it becomes one IF and only if The First Cause is deified or see as a God . The same with the arguments or reasons to believe that extraterrestrial life exists .

Lol, so what if i decide to argue about the first cause even when it is not deify or see as a God, is there a law that said we should not argue about the first cause?

tintingz:
Atheism has different definitions in their ideology and philosophy, they lack belief in God(s) since there are no evidence for a supernatural deity

Is there a general consensus regarding the non existence of a supernatural deity ? No From science ? No From Philosophy ? No From Logic ? No

Why then do you keep repeating this bullsheet ?

Rejecting the existence of a supernatural being is not necessarily what atheism is . Like I earlier said , there are theists who reject the existence of a conscious separate entity outside the universe .

One is an atheist when he does not see anything - abstract or concrete - as a deity . Simple

If there is a greater universe outside this one and there are beings in them whose existence cannot be explained by science , shouldn't we call them supernatural beings ?

KingEbukasBlog:


Is there a general consensus regarding the non existence of a supernatural deity ? No From science ? No From Philosophy ? No From Logic ? No

Lol, ideology differs, the more reason people argue about the existence/inexistence of a supernatural being.

Why then do you keep repeating this bullsheet ?

I don't think we have engaged in arguments before, so what bullshit am I repeating?

Rejecting the existence of a supernatural being is not necessarily what atheism is . Like I earlier said , there are theists who reject the existence of a conscious separate entity outside the universe .

So what if an atheist rejects the existence of a god, will you go and beat him? I'm not understanding, are you the one setting rules? The last time I checked atheism don't have rules.

Atheism lack belief in god(s), lack there means they dont need any god.

Most theist still believes there is a first cause.

One is an atheist when he does not see anything - abstract or concrete - as a deity . Simple

Are you the Mr dictionary?

If there is a greater universe outside this one and there are beings in them whose existence cannot be explained by science , shouldn't we call them supernatural beings ?

Why should we call them or assume them to be supernatural being?

felixomor:


Sorry God never called Himself Yahweh.
You may do well to educate yourself about that.

God is not crazy about names.
He is more concerned about our relationship with Him

You're shifting from the question I asked you, Is Olorun the Yoruba God the same as Yahweh the Hebrew God?

Why are you not concern about the characters of these Gods?

And for you info, you can't use the word Yahweh or Obatala when praying Islamic prayer solat(namaz).

I like, no...LOVE how half of this thread is just felixomor being flogged. I think this argument has been covered several times anyway, I also think your argument kingebuka was answered in another thread you made. I think one thing that might help you op is to realise that atheism is not a religion, the base commonality that atheists have is simply a lack of belief in god or gods, anyone is free to believe anything else they wish and still be atheist.

tintingz:
You're shifting from the question I asked you, Is Olorun the Yoruba God the same as Yahweh the Hebrew God?

Why are you not concern about the characters of these Gods?

And for you info, you can't use the word Yahweh or Obatala when praying Islamic prayer solat(namaz).

You are the one shifting upandan
Who are you calling Yahweh?

LightandDarkness:
I like, no...LOVE [s]how half of this thread is just felixomor being flogged. I think this argument has been covered several times anyway, I also think your argument kingebuka was answered in another thread you made. I think one thing that might help you op is to realise that atheism is not a religion, the base commonality that atheists have is simply a lack of belief in god or gods, anyone is free to believe anything else they wish and still be atheist[/s].

Always talking nonsense
How does this your trash help atheism to explain the beginning of the universe?
Mxsheww

felixomor:

You are the one shifting upandan
Who are you calling Yahweh?

Jesus daddy.

tintingz:
Jesus daddy.

Are you confused? The father of Jesus as you knew him was Joseph. Was Jesus called Jesus before he was born?

felixomor:


Always talking nonsense
How does this your trash help atheism to explain the beginning of the universe?
Mxsheww

Because there is a large diversity of opinions among atheists, atheism cannot and does not offer a single explanation for the origin of the universe, that is up to the individual atheist. Atheist A can believe the big bang theory is valid, Atheist B might believe the world was created from the sperm of an alien race in a separate universe. I would think the flogging you received on this thread was enough for you but don't worry, I am not in the mood for long arguments tonight

LightandDarkness:


Because there is a large diversity of opinions among atheists, atheism cannot and does not offer a single explanation for the origin of the universe, that is up to the individual atheist. Atheist A can believe the big bang theory is valid, Atheist B might believe the world was created from the sperm of an alien race in a separate universe. I would think the flogging you received on this thread was enough for you but don't worry, I am not in the mood for long arguments tonight

Speak for yourself then. How would you say the universe came to be? Let's hear your own version of creation from your personal atheistic view.

butterflylion:



Are you confused? The father of Jesus as you knew him was Joseph. Was Jesus called Jesus before he was born?

According to Christians, the daddy of Jesus Christ is in heaven, the Jewish God.

Before Jesus was born, an angle appeared to Mary to name the child Jesus.

butterflylion:


Speak for yourself then. How would you say the universe came to be? Let's hear your own version of creation from your personal atheistic view.

As I said before, I am not interested. I have argued my position with many people on this thread before and I do not wish to sit and type page long repeats of arguments, defences etc I have stated before. If not that I had to laugh at the annihilation of Dr Omor I would have ignored this thread

tintingz:
According to Christians, the daddy of Jesus Christ is in heaven, the Jewish God.

Before Jesus was born, an angle appeared to Mary to name the child Jesus.

You are still messing yourself up. According to Christians the father of J E S U S is Joseph. Before he was born was he known as Jesus? How can You lay claim to knowing his divine paternity when you never knew him before he was born and neither did you know his name before he was born and given an earthly name.

Was he ever spiritually conceived to enable him have a spiritual father?

LightandDarkness:


As I said before, I am not interested. I have argued my position with many people on this thread before and I do not wish to sit and type page long repeats of arguments, defences etc I have stated before. If not that I had to laugh at the annihilation of Dr Omor I would have ignored this thread

So sorry but I have seen no annihilation being done here. All I see are just illogical comments being dropped by atheists.

Since I am not privy to your previous arguments why not indulge me and share with me your view of how the universe began.