PoliteActivist:
I am mystified as to how you don't know the Paul's writings were mainly to churches he established amongst gentiles. See below

Sadly, that ain't it at all. Paul's letters where primarily sent to the displaced jews of his time. He referred to them as those bought by the blood(from the Old Law), ransomed, redeemed or even the elect. Yes, the elect were all jews.

Kobojunkie:
Who is saved through grace?

You are only saved from Death - perishing in grave - by the eternal life(grace) which Jesus Christ gifts everyone who chooses to become of the Kingdom of God but grace does not save one afterwards from eternal damnation since even all those who will end up in eternal damnation- those who entered into the Kingdom of God through the Broad Gate which leads to destruction (Hell fire) - all of them born-again were also saved by grace - John 3 vs 1 - 8 & John 3 vs 16 - 21 & Matthew 7 vs 13 - 14 & Luke 13 vs 22 - 20. Everyone of those who will end up in eternal damnation also possess eternal life(grace) to spend in damnation.

The salvation Jesus Christ gives to us is two fold and according to Him, only those who stand faithful- living in continuous submission and obedience of the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ - until the end, will be saved by Jesus Christ- Matthew 24 vs 12 - 13 & Mark 13 vs 13

See below

PoliteActivist:
See below

What am I supposed to be looking at?

Never use Google or other sources to figure out that which is the teaching and/or commandment of Jesus Christ,

Kobojunkie:
What am I supposed to be looking at?

Never use Google or other sources to figure out that which is the teaching and/or commandment of Jesus Christ,

This is Bible quoted verbatim, not google

PoliteActivist:
This is Bible quoted verbatim, not google

▪︎What die Paul tell you in that passage that you are "saved" from?

▪︎You quoted from Mark 16 vs 16 and I also quoted from Mark 13 vs 13. Are we meant to cherry-pick or accept all that Jesus Christ taught as Truth?

▪︎ Earlier you had made it clear that if one broke even one of the commandments, one was judged guilty of breaking the entire Law. Are you now saying you will only take that commanded by Jesus Christ in Mark 16 vs 16 but not that commanded by the same Jesus Christ in Mark 13 vs 13. ?

Kobojunkie:
Sadly, that ain't it at all. Paul's letters where primarily sent to the displaced jews of his time. He referred to them as those bought by the blood(from the Old Law), ransomed, redeemed or even the elect. Yes, the elect were all jews.

You are the only Christian I know who doesn't know that Paul is apostle to the Gentiles.
Read below again

PoliteActivist:
You are the only Christian I know who doesn't know that Paul is apostle to the Gentiles.
Read below again

According to Jesus Christ, every single one of His followers, He sent out to the world - majorly Gentiles - to preach the Gospel of the Kingdom of God to. So telling me Paul is the apostle to the Gentiles means absolutely nothing since all are given the same command by Jesus Christ to go out into the Gentile world to teach the Gospel of the Kingdom of God to all.

Kobojunkie:
According to Jesus Christ, every single one of His followers, He sent out to the world - majorly Gentiles - to preach the Gospel of Kingdom of God to. So telling me Paul is apostle to the Gentiles means absolutely nothing since all are given the same command by Jesus Christ.

So why are you saying his letters are to jews when CLEARLY they are to gentiles?

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Ok bro, so God, dealt with the israelites by allowing the Romans thoroughly destroy his temple which housed his ARK & Holy of Holies as if the destruction was not enough, the man also desecrated the place & built a statue of himself & asking gods people to worship him In fact as if that was not enough, he also let the Muslims attack and capture his holy city because of israelites stubbornness? And then further help the Muslims build a mosque on top of his temple so that it will pain the israelites well well who will have no place of worship while the Muslims worship their idol. Is this how a God should think
You guys make God abstract thays why you believe stories like this

PoliteActivist:
So why are you saying his letters are to jews when CLEARLY they are to gentiles?

In pretty much all of the first chapters of each letter, Paul opens up by introducing his main audience as the Jews - those bought by the blood of Jesus Christ.

The confusion you have here comes from the fact that somehow you swallowed the lie that Paul was the only apostle sent to the Gentiles, a lie which clearly contradicts Jesus Christ's very own instructions to all of His disciples commanding that they go out into the world - the majorly gentile world - to teach the same Gospel which He taught to them to all those they meet, beginning in Jerusalem, where Paul himself began. Every follower is instructed by Jesus Christ to lead people - regardless of nationality - to Jesus Christ through the teaching of the very same Gospel of the Kingdom of God that Jesus Christ taught only to His own. So how can any one person lay claim to being the only disciple sent to the Gentiles?

43Ronin:

Ok bro, so God, dealt with the israelites by allowing the Romans thoroughly destroy his temple which housed his ARK & Holy of Holies as if the destruction was not enough, the man also desecrated the place & built a statue of himself & asking gods people to worship him In fact as if that was not enough, he also let the Muslims attack and capture his holy city because of israelites stubbornness? And then further help the Muslims build a mosque on top of his temple so that it will pain the israelites well well who will have no place of worship while the Muslims worship their idol. Is this how a God should think
You guys make God abstract thays why you believe stories like this

My guy the temple means nothing to God when the purpose for which it was built will never be met! John 2:19

God doesn't dwell in temples {Act 17:24; 1Kings 8:27} God's dwelling place is the Heaven! 1Kings 8:43

The presence of an angel in the most holy inside that temple only means God's approval of the pure worship Israelites are practicing in that temple {Exodus 19:5} but after they had turned against all the agreement in the covenant binding Him to remain loyal to that nation God disown them and their fruitless temple {Matthew 21:43; 23:37-38} that's why the angel stationed in the most holy left! Matthew 27:51

He is the God of justice not a partial God, He is only loyal to those that proved loyal, He is the God of all loyal descendants of Adam not the God of a faithless nation!

Kobojunkie:
In pretty much all of the first chapters of each letter, Paul opens up by introducing his main audience as the Jews - those bought by the blood of Jesus Christ.

The confusion you have here comes from the fact that somehow you swallowed the lie that Paul was the only apostle sent to the Gentiles, a lie which clearly contradicts Jesus Christ's very own instructions to all of His disciples commanding that they go out into the world - the majorly gentile world - to teach the same Gospel which He taught to them to all those they meet, beginning in Jerusalem, where Paul himself began. Every follower is instructed by Jesus Christ to lead people - regardless of nationality - to Jesus Christ through the teaching of the very same Gospel of the Kingdom of God that Jesus Christ taught only to His own. So how can any one person lay claim to being the only disciple sent to the Gentiles?

My friend please stop pushing this ludicrous viewpoint. Paul not only wrote to churches, he also wrote to individuals like Timothy and Philmont, clearly gentiles

PoliteActivist:
My friend please stop pushing this ludicrous viewpoint. Paul not only wrote to churches, he also wrote to individuals like Timothy and Philmont, clearly gentiles

Again, In pretty much all of the first chapters of each letter, Paul opens up by introducing his main audience as the Jews - those bought by the blood of Jesus Christ.

The confusion you have here comes from the fact that somehow you swallowed the lie that Paul was the only apostle sent to the Gentiles, a lie which clearly contradicts Jesus Christ's very own instructions to all of His disciples commanding that they go out into the world - the majorly gentile world - to teach the same Gospel which He taught to them to all those they meet, beginning in Jerusalem, where Paul himself began. Every follower is instructed by Jesus Christ to lead people - regardless of nationality - to Jesus Christ through the teaching of the very same Gospel of the Kingdom of God that Jesus Christ taught only to His own. So how can any one person lay claim to being the only disciple sent to the Gentiles?

By the way, Timothy was a Jew - He had a Jewish mother, right? The other, I can't really recall right now but I can look up later to be certain.

Anyways, as I already made clear. The one who is Law in the Kingdom of God is Jesus Christ and as Jesus Christ made clear,only those who stand faithful- in continuous submission and obedience to His teachings and commandments- until the end, will be saved by Him, Jesus Christ - Matthew 24 vs 12 - 13 & Mark 13 vs 13 . And no, you can't cherry-pick since God's Law, even in the Kingdom of God, is all-or-nothing. The same Jesus Christ who said so will you ignore a part of the Law yet pretending you can lay claim to all that is the Law?

TenQ:

I also agree with you on this!
It is first a Holy Day before its a Holiday!

It is first a Holy Day and supposed to always be an Holy Day. A Day of Goodness and joy and play and laughter and remembrance of the goodness received from God therefore thanks giving will follow. A day of family and love and all things good.

Which is why Christ asked "which is better? To do good or to do evil.

Your "holiday" is a deceit of using The Truth to deceive and kill as lortreed does, in making people forget that

1. We have this beautiful day of joy and laughter and rest because God gave it to us.

2. Every Holy Day reminds us that God is our Ruler and therefore in Charge of our lives.

3 Every Holy Day reminds us that The Lord is Good and that He has been good to us. He is not as the wicked employers and rulers as is now proven as more and more people are now made to work from Sunday to Sunday,.

4. Every Holy Day reminds us to Fear The Lord!

So the word "holiday" is a cunning perversion from the evil, given by people like lortreed meant to lead people away from God into the Danger of the Anger God.

Dtruthspeaker:


It is first a Holy Day and supposed to always be an Holy Day. A Day of Goodness and joy and play and laughter and remembrance of the goodness received from God therefore thanks giving will follow. A day of family and love and all things good.

Which is why Christ asked "which is better? To do good or to do evil.

Your "holiday" is a deceit of using The Truth to deceive and kill as lortreed does, in making people forget that

1. We have this beautiful day of joy and laughter and rest because God gave it to us.

2. Every Holy Day reminds us that God is our Ruler and therefore in Charge of our lives.

3 Every Holy Day reminds us that The Lord is Good and that He has been good to us. He is not as the wicked employers and rulers as is now proven as more and more people are now made to work from Sunday to Sunday,.

4. Every Holy Day reminds us to Fear The Lord!

So the word "holiday" is a cunning perversion from the evil, given by people like lortreed meant to lead people away from God into the Danger of the Anger God.

It would be wrong for anyone to term Sabbath as ONLY a holiday. It is FIRST a HOLY DAY before becoming a HOLIDAY! The word holiday is only useful as a modern equivalent where the citizens have a day of rest and celebrations. However for the Jews, the Sabbath is primarily a HOLY/SACRED Day to the Lord even though it can be by extension a HOLIDAY!

TenQ:
... The word holiday is only useful as a modern equivalent where the citizens have a day of rest and celebrations....

And this is the cunning destruction which I have just informed you about wherein as you see people do not know that

1. the "holiday" they are enjoying came from God.

2. They have been so deceived to not remember that God Rules us and is silently Watching us, which has gotten to point that they have become even more foolish up to the point of thinking that He does not exist, as you now see that it is the stupidity flowing all over the world.

3 They have been so deceived to the point that they do not know to Fear God!

All because of the deception of the cunning wickedly twisted to "holiday" instead "Holy Day". And you are still promoting this evil and wicked deception.