sonmvayina:

Can't you see pass the deception?
You have chosen the wrong God.
Jesus has no connection to the creator of the universe..there is no historical evidence for his existence..none at all..
I just don't know how to stress it again ..

Lukuluku69:


@Your first paragraph, the Jews Jesus met in Judea and any references to Jews consists of only TWO of the TWELVES Tribes that make up the Israelites.

The Tribe of Judah assimilated the smaller Benjamites while the other TEN were taken into Captivity by the Assyrians and deported from their Territories and are seemingly "Lost". We Muslims know ehte they are and who they are till now! If you want to know, I will show you from your Bible.

That Division came just after Solomon death when the other TEN Tribes broke away and form a separate Kingdom in Samaria. Despite being Kins, you will see that that eninity persisted till the time of Jesus because the Jews of Judea never reckoned with the Israelites of Samaria.

This is to correct your wrong notion ooo before you start bidding GOODBYE to the World. Lol

I am sure you won't get this kind of exposition from your Kingdom hall.

MaxInDHouse:


Mumu Muslim man.
How many tribes did Moses acknowledged as Israelites 12 or 13?

Lukuluku69:

Mugu Jehovah Madness man 12 Tribes.

TenQ:

Which day is Sabbath was the Question!
I've answered: Sabbath is not just one day. It means DAY of REST or in modern language PUBLIC HOLIDAY ! Are the four classes of Sabbath I mentioned a Fabrication? If not,

I ask, do you keep the WHOLE of the Sabbath law?
Jam 2:10:
"For whoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all."

So, again I ask:
Do you keep the WHOLE of the Sabbath law?

If you don't, I have a word for you

Mat 7:5:
"You hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of your own eye; and then shall you see clearly to cast out the mote out of your brother's eye."

Preach the Sabbath only AFTER you have kept the whole law of the Sabbath my dear!

TenQ:

Which day is Sabbath was the Question!
I've answered: Sabbath is not just one day. It means DAY of REST or in modern language PUBLIC HOLIDAY ! Are the four classes of Sabbath I mentioned a Fabrication? If not,

I ask, do you keep the WHOLE of the Sabbath law?
Jam 2:10:
"For whoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all."

So, again I ask:
Do you keep the WHOLE of the Sabbath law?

If you don't, I have a word for you

Mat 7:5:
"You hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of your own eye; and then shall you see clearly to cast out the mote out of your brother's eye."

Preach the Sabbath only AFTER you have kept the whole law of the Sabbath my dear!

PoliteActivist:
More deceptive, circular talk.
Simple:
From creation God ordained one day as day of rest. If that day is Saturday, why do we observe it on Sundays??

MaxInDHouse:


Bible nah our own book, i won't argue with you over that worthless Qu'ran book but Bible it belongs to JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES.

Ọmọ it's 13 not 12

Kobojunkie:
What God gave Moses was Constitutional Law for the Nation of Israel, a Nation which He constituted of the people of Israel in the Land of Canaan comprising of about 613 total statutes, commandments, ritual ceremonies(including holy days-holidays-to be observed) - not just the first 10 commandments which those of you who have never in fact taken time for yourselves to read through the Law are aware of.

God made it abundantly clear to all that that Constitution serves only those who are of the blood of Israel in the land of Canaan - foreigners who live amongst them in the land benefit in some ways .I.e. the dogs benefit from the crumbs that fall from the table - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20

MaxInDHouse:


Jesus sent his disciples out to PREACH and TEACH people in their neighbourhood how to distinguish between true and false religion, but you and i have no business so who exactly sent you to correct me on the choice of my God?

Lukuluku69:


Olodo want to run away after commiting an own Goal.

I am a Muslim, I will School you in Bible Studies and what it contains.

The Twelve Tribes of Israel came to be from the Twelve Children of Jacob who was surnames Israel.

The same way Daniel said Four Kingdoms but your Cult teaches FIVE KINGDOM when you smuggled Anglo-American Kingdom in. Lol

I will say again, I will school you and wean you of the babbles you have been feed with

Oya go and count the Number of Jacob children.

And why have your sidekicks been silent lately?

Kobojunkie:
Where is it written that God did that which you claim from creation?

MaxInDHouse:


Bible nah our own book, i won't argue with you over that worthless Qu'ran book but Bible it belongs to JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES.

Ọmọ it's 13 not 12

PoliteActivist:
1. Since we insist on keeping the "rest" commandment,

2. why do we do it on Sunday instead of the Saturday 4 which it was ordained? That was question

sonmvayina:

This is a public forum.
We are here to educate ourselves and learn..
It is up to you if you are headstrong...
Your choice....
But know that because of your idolatry and those who follow a false god.
The creator is punishing us with bad leaders who don't care for us..

MaxInDHouse:



I don't know what exactly this stupid Muslim man called lukuluku69 wants with me, i told him to stop quoting me he will not only to come mentioning me even though i've told him to stop it.

Now if you're interested in learning here are the THIRTEEN tribes Moses acknowledged as Israelites:

Reuʹben
Simʹe·on
Leʹvi
Judah
Isʹsa·char
Zebʹu·lun
Benjamin
Dan
Naphʹta·li
Gad
Ashʹer
Manasseh
Ephraim

The last two are the sons of Joseph that Jacob adopted as his own sons and told the Israelites to forever acknowledge as his own sons instead of Joseph's! Genesis 48:1-22

That's why Ephraim and Manasseh were taken as separate tribes and each given his portion of inheritance as part of the Sons of Israel.

So when the Bible said ten were separated in the North as Samaritans Ephraim and Manasseh were counted among the ten while THREE remained in the south:
Judah
Benjamin
Levi
The Levites weren't given any inheritance {Deuteronomy 14:27} this tribe remain in the temple as priests and scribes, that's why only two were mentioned but the Levites who officiates in the temple are another tribe of the sons of Israel! Numbers 1:50-53 compare to Nehemiah 13:10

Please stop mentioning me if you feel like arguing do it with others i'm not interested in chatting with you!

Lukuluku69:


Jacob, through his two wives and his two concubines had 12 biological sons; Reuben, Simeon, Levi, Judah, Dan, Naphtali,Gad, Asher, Issachar, Zebulun, Joseph and Benjamin.

Sebi you can count abi you need one of your sidekicks to count for you?

MaxInDHouse:



I don't know what exactly this stupid Muslim man called lukuluku69 wants with me, i told him to stop quoting me he will not only to come mentioning me even though i've told him to stop it.

Now if you're interested in learning here are the THIRTEEN tribes Moses acknowledged as Israelites:

[1]Reuʹben
[2]Simʹe·on
[3]Leʹvi
[4]Judah
[5]Isʹsa·char
[6]Zebʹu·lun
[7]Benjamin
[8]Dan
[9]Naphʹta·li
[10]Gad
[11]Ashʹer
[12]Manasseh
[13]Ephraim

The last two are the sons of Joseph that Jacob adopted as his own sons and told the Israelites to forever acknowledge as his own sons instead of Joseph's! Genesis 48:1-22

That's why Ephraim and Manasseh were taken as separate tribes and each given his portion of inheritance as part of the Sons of Israel.

So when the Bible said ten were separated in the North as Samaritans Ephraim and Manasseh were counted among the ten while THREE remained in the south:
Judah
Benjamin
Levi
The Levites weren't given any inheritance {Deuteronomy 14:27} this tribe remain in the temple as priests and scribes, that's why only two were mentioned but the Levites who officiates in the temple are another tribe of the sons of Israel! Numbers 1:50-53 compare to Nehemiah 13:10

Please stop mentioning me if you feel like arguing do it with others i'm not interested in chatting with you!

Kobojunkie:
1. But the "rest" commandment which you pretend to keep is that given by God only to those who are of the blood of Jacob and living in the nation of Israel, so what you do ---- whether you do it on a Saturday or Sunday
- is completely removed from that commanded by God for the fact that you are not of the blood of Israel nor do you live in the land of Canaan among the Israelites.

2. The simple answer is that, depending on the whims and will of men who you have placed as gods over you, you follow the days your religious leaders have ordained for you rather than obey the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ.

Lukuluku69:


Mugu Jehovah Madness man, you can Joseph as ONE and not his two Kids.

Joesph was Jacob's son and Joseph's TWO sons were Joseph's son

I will mention and call out LIES and wrong Notions. Simple. If you like wave bye bye to the world na your palava be that

I can see that my exposition which put a lie to what you post here is making you feel uncomfortable. That means you are responding to treatment and that is cool with me

PoliteActivist:


See, a very simple question, and you are trying to confuse it with deceptive talk in order to win an argument.
Simple:
If, from creation, Saturday was ordained Sabbath, why do we observe if on Sundays??

PoliteActivist:
See below.

MaxInDHouse:

sonmvayina:


Saturday is a day of rest that God ordained for the Jews.

Sunday is a day of worship for Christians..

MaxInDHouse:


You are a complete dunce!

In the days of my ancestors they worship all kinds of gods and bow to images of all sort yet life was sweeter than this.

So if want to know why those in government are becoming more and more wicked only Jesus can help you out but since you don't want to acknowledge him then i can't help your ministry!

MaxInDHouse:


Moses is the mediator God used to establish the sons of Israel as one nation.

Ọmọ he acknowledged 13 tribes not 12 that's what i said perhaps you don't know why none of the commentators argued it because you're a Muslim this is far beyond your grasp!

PoliteActivist:
1) God made a specific day holy. He did not say it was holy only for Israel

2) Now you are approaching the truth. Go back a little further in history and find out why it had to be Sunday (including for converted Jews) instead of the Saturday that was ordained holy.

Lukuluku69:


Are. You done counting?

Jacob, through his two wives and his two concubines had 12 biological sons; Reuben, Simeon, Levi, Judah, Dan, Naphtali,Gad, Asher, Issachar, Zebulun, Joseph and Benjamin.

The above is where you get the Twelve Tribes of Israel.

Ten were Lost when they went idolatrous and taken into captivity and deported by the Assyrians.

The Tribe of Judah being the most powerful assimilated the smaller Benjamites forming what is now known as The Jews ( an Alias from the name Judah: Yahuda)

If you will not be shouting like a YabaLeft patient, I can wean you but like all inmates, they never believed anything is wrong with them.

PoliteActivist:


Question is, why?
And why did/do converted jews keep Sunday instead of Saturday?

See quote below, did God make it holy only for Jews?

Kobojunkie:
He made a day holy because He rested on that from His creation Work. It is not written that He specified any of what that means to men at the time. The Law He gave to Adam did not specify the observance of a Holy day so how can you state that it was ordained by God from creation? To whom and for what purpose?

Kobojunkie:
1. Please, let's not now attempt to rewrite scripture.

There is no record of Adam, or Noah, Abraham or even Jacob, observing a Sabbath.

2. There is no need for that since that which is not according to God's very own commandment - in His Law - is of the delusions of men. So observing a day of Sabbath when God has commanded no such from you then pretending you do it in honor of God is what Jesus Christ taught amounts to worshipping God in vain.

sonmvayina:

So since they worshipped local idols
You decided to worship a foreign one..
Very funny

sonmvayina:


Jews keep Saturday..not Sunday.

Christians keep Sunday as day of worship but also keep Saturday as day of rest.