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Re: Do Money Rituals Actually Work? by Ryabcool(m): 9:45am On Sep 17, 2017 |
Japhet04:A spirit. And we also saw it disappear. It was like when something gradually fades into nothing. I will repeat again; you can be whatever you want to be, but just rule out atheism. Take some time to find what has a strong sense of morality, works with your spirit and most of all, gives you inner peace. 1 Like |
Re: Do Money Rituals Actually Work? by 0m0nnakoda: 10:02am On Sep 17, 2017 |
Ryabcool:What does a spirit look like when one sees it .How does one recognize a spirit? |
Re: Do Money Rituals Actually Work? by Ryabcool(m): 10:06am On Sep 17, 2017 |
0m0nnakoda:lol I know where this is headed. have a great day fam. you are free to believe and disbelieve what ever you feel like |
Re: Do Money Rituals Actually Work? by Ryabcool(m): 10:09am On Sep 17, 2017 |
ogb756:if it is as real as you claim, you no suppose dey do advert for nairaland. you suppose dey dubai dey cruise from all the winnings wey u suppose don make. unless you are simply a charlatan scamming people of their money 3 Likes |
Re: Do Money Rituals Actually Work? by mozele(m): 10:11am On Sep 17, 2017 |
chemystery: scammed? Na. I'm talking of the victims and the fate of those that engaged in it. There are things ordinary words we use cant explain. Since you are still in doubt, why dont you undertake and investigative research on this issue. It'll pay off big time. Or you can pray to be just a victim then you'll understand better. |
Re: Do Money Rituals Actually Work? by 0m0nnakoda: 10:18am On Sep 17, 2017 |
Ryabcool:Before I believe I like to educate myself first. So I really would like to know what spirits look like or how to recognize one |
Re: Do Money Rituals Actually Work? by 0m0nnakoda: 10:28am On Sep 17, 2017 |
chemystery:Please let us stop this misinformation . Babalawos have nothing to do with any of this. A Babalawo is a priest of Ifa (Yoruba religion) just like there are priests of Christianity or Islam etc. If a person parades himself as having power to do money rituals, cast spells etc and the person is Yoruba or perfoms rituals using Yoruba language that does not make them a "Babalawo". We have seen Similar atrocities by so called Imams or Christian "men of God" Reverend King comes to mind. We have seen people being made to drink and eat all kinds of things in the name of "Christianity". One unfortunate consequence of colonization is the unbridled slander of our Indigenous religions by Christianity and Islam. If any person purports to do money ritual by definition either he is not a genuine babalawo or if he is he has gone rogue just as may occur with other religions. There are all kinds of "spiritualists and occultists" practising with Yoruba language that does not make them Babalawos just like similarly some use the bible/Christianity or the Quran/Islam for so called occultism 1 Like |
Re: Do Money Rituals Actually Work? by Aadetola1(m): 10:37am On Sep 17, 2017 |
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Re: Do Money Rituals Actually Work? by chemystery: 11:21am On Sep 17, 2017 |
0m0nnakoda:I strongly agree with you. Only intended using a single word anyone could easily relate with |
Re: Do Money Rituals Actually Work? by Vickiweezy(m): 11:21am On Sep 17, 2017 |
LeSaint: You're a bigger fool, mannerless illiterate. Read my comment well before quoting me. I said money rituals is for lazy fools, I never said I do or do not believe in such. I stated that only a lazy fool would engage in such activity irrespective of whether it works or not for that individual. And don't ever quote me again in your foolish miserable life, just because you have a phone with Internet access doesn't mean you can just login to NL and start spilling thrash to your elders. |
Re: Do Money Rituals Actually Work? by DONADAMS(m): 11:25am On Sep 17, 2017 |
einsteino:you just took out the exact same words from my mouth!!!ignorance is bliss 1 Like |
Re: Do Money Rituals Actually Work? by chemystery: 11:28am On Sep 17, 2017 |
mozele:Victims of scam! Mind you, I use to believe ritual killing and juju works in the past just like you. Through investigation and research, I was able to realise what i use to believe in is mere scam. So the bolded advice is for you 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Do Money Rituals Actually Work? by 0m0nnakoda: 11:29am On Sep 17, 2017 |
chemystery:Everyone can relate with? That is an unfortunate and lazy way of feeding prejudice of a group considered too small to protest, Muslims would not accept that. We need to be more mindful of the damage that careless and disrespectful use of words can cause. Those who live abroad see the same kind of thing applied to Nigerians ,black people etc. Only yesterday there was a thread about the former VC of OAU Ife a well known Babalawo on Nairaland which was very positive. Do not Christian or Muslim clerics engage in money rituals? So why did you not use the word Imam instead? 1 Like |
Re: Do Money Rituals Actually Work? by chemystery: 11:35am On Sep 17, 2017 |
0m0nnakoda:Those who believe in magic claim there are black magic as well as white magic. And babalawos are known to practice one or both. If ritual killings falls under black magic, why can't I associate them with babalawos or juju priest? |
Re: Do Money Rituals Actually Work? by 0m0nnakoda: 11:39am On Sep 17, 2017 |
chemystery:Actually you are wrong and ignorant. Babalawos do not practise any kind of magic. Is TB Joshua known to practise magic? Is Enoch Adeboye known to practise magic? Is their magic white or black? Where do you get this nonsense that Babalawos practise magic? Those are NOT babalawos that is misinformation. Maybe you are talking of Oniseguns who are very different from Babalawos. Very very different What is juju priest and why associate them with Babalawo ? What is the connection |
Re: Do Money Rituals Actually Work? by chemystery: 11:50am On Sep 17, 2017 |
0m0nnakoda:OK, their area of specialization in scam is actually your problem not mine. So can I rest now? |
Re: Do Money Rituals Actually Work? by 0m0nnakoda: 11:56am On Sep 17, 2017 |
chemystery:You are unintelligent and you have no one to tell you |
Re: Do Money Rituals Actually Work? by tintingz(m): 11:56am On Sep 17, 2017 |
einsteino:Again, have you been to where people claim to be ritualists do their operations? Why do they kidnapped people and later we see thier body dumped and some body parts and organs removed? Ritual murder act exist(although for it purpose, research and evidence for this is few) but I don't believe in the magical stuff behind that it fetch wealth or give some magical powers but your argument here is attacking the fact that organ harvest, black market happens and you're trying to prove that Africans don't indulge in this illegal organ trade. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_for_body_parts ^^^ The report here shows the evidence of medicine murder is weak but acknowledged the practice in Africa. Our friend here claims they put kidneys in a bag and label it 25k.. that isnt the same as the illegal organ harvesters who have facilities for harvesting and preserving organs, mind you as far as i know, illegal organ harvesters are govt backed (in the case of china) and most of these operations are carried out in hospitals or offgrid facilities owned by syndicates, they are surgical operations performed by doctors not barbarians hiding in a forest with nothing other than knives. what we have in nigeria is simply ritualist or cannabilist not organ harvesters. Cases of body parts missing is older than Nigeria and the field of transplanting itself, so who were the organs harvested for in those times?I will agree with this part. I am not even interested in the debate of wether money rituals works or not, all i am challenging is the merit of his hypothesis. most of the accounts we have read of these cases indicates their victims were killed using coventional means and their organs ripped not harvested, in some cases people were caught with organs that even a secondary school student should know is already dead. or do you want to also say Nigerians who were caught with human head harvested them for transplant purposes?Agreed i dont want to go back and forth over this, you can research the internet to discern the difference. if you arent satisfied, it is best you continue with the opinion you are covinced with.OK, the only problem with your argument is, you attack the believe that Africans also indulge in organ harvest, which is fallacious. |
Re: Do Money Rituals Actually Work? by chemystery: 12:08pm On Sep 17, 2017 |
0m0nnakoda:Lol! Argumentum ad hominem |
Re: Do Money Rituals Actually Work? by mfm04622: 12:09pm On Sep 17, 2017 |
Desyner:Jamaicans don't count as they originated from Africa. Nor do Brazilians and other Latin America countries with slavery history |
Re: Do Money Rituals Actually Work? by 0m0nnakoda: 12:12pm On Sep 17, 2017 |
chemystery:Funny dude if you want to continue the discussion I am here answer the point I raised in my penultimate post.You saw you were running out ot arguments and chose deliberately to to be obtuse so here it is again answer the questions or go and play Babalawos do not practise any kind of magic. Is TB Joshua known to practise magic? Is Enoch Adeboye known to practise magic? Is their magic white or black? Where do you get this nonsense that Babalawos practise magic? Those are NOT babalawos that is misinformation. Maybe you are talking of Oniseguns who are very different from Babalawos. Very very different What is juju priest and why associate them with Babalawo ? What is the connection ? |
Re: Do Money Rituals Actually Work? by uvalued(m): 1:26pm On Sep 17, 2017 |
chemystery: Wow, your – doubt fear doubt fear doubt fear. CURIOSITY HAS OPENED A LOT OF HIDDEN KNOWLEDGE I thought that atheistic scientist/adventurers are so curious to know and prove that all things are just natural and no spiritual? But from your post I think you are genuinely afraid of taking up this challenge. ATHIEST DONT BELIEVE IN SPIRITUAL If you remember, I stated that I condemn ritual killing but you and your ilk have said that there is nothing SPIRITUAL/SUPERNATURAL that result into money about ritual killing. So the onus is on you that MADE the claim that there is NOTHING spiritual. I NEVER made the claim you did or didn’t you? CASE STUDY - OGUN STATE To further help in you fulfilling your quest, I zeroed in on south west and precisely Ogun state. Why, On nairaland, you would remember that people have been caught with human parts around that area this is why I suggest where you can start your quest. MANGO PARK AND CHRISTOPHE COLUMBUS EXPEDITION On giving you a babalawo, I smiled with amusement at your request. From my history class, when mango park wanted to find the source or the flow of river niger, can you show where he was given name of the chief he would meet on the way? Or Christopher Columbus on his expedition to the Americas, was he given the name of the Indian chief to meet? No. If I can remember, they gathered their supplies, collected men and arms for this quest and mango park died because of malaria. So if you are on a quest to find or prove something, it is expected that you prepare yourself for the worst and as I said it will be your life time achievement to knowledge if you died in your quest. Are you not ready to be an atheistic missionary to prove your disbelief? CONTACT ATHIEST ASSOCIATION IN NIGEIA Furthermore, if I recall some time ago on nairaland,Humanistic association registered with Corporate Affairs Commission (http://blog.atheist.org.ng/2017/) . Now that you have an association, you can see them up to setup and support your quest to prove that there is nothing spiritual about ritual killing. And am sure they would gladly support you or raise support for you. USE OF TECHNOLOGY In the modern era, technology has made it more easy to share info real time all the time using phones… you can make use of google map, have a page on nairaland to be feeding all your quest so far to the unknown… you can use thuraya as well… get security as well… etc and surely you will be given a life time award even if you die to the cause of knowledge… What say you chemystry? |
Re: Do Money Rituals Actually Work? by uvalued(m): 1:32pm On Sep 17, 2017 |
tintingz: Wow, I wish I was in that era when the colonial masters faced the Africans of old. But sorry I cant feed you. However, I condemn ritual killing but you authoritatively declared there is nothing spiritual about it. So maybe open a thread about how juju failed when the colonial masters came and conquered and maybe someone might feed you update about such… I don’t have any info on that. |
Re: Do Money Rituals Actually Work? by chemystery: 2:08pm On Sep 17, 2017 |
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Re: Do Money Rituals Actually Work? by obekediamondfuto(m): 2:14pm On Sep 17, 2017 |
Vickiweezy: du@fuc hard work doesn't pay anymore, r u just starting life? gone are the eras of physical Giants, the era of mental Giants are also slowly giving way for the era of spiritual Giants... smart work is the new hard work. . goan ask those into hard work full time.... ask them if it pays, if the slap no reset ur brain then come for spiritual counselling |
Re: Do Money Rituals Actually Work? by chemystery: 2:38pm On Sep 17, 2017 |
uvalued:When you challenge someone, you make all the provision to ensure the person doesn't cheat. It is evident you are not ready. When you are ready, contact a juju priest and let's set off. I don't have time for too much talks. Your mongo park instance cracked me up. What a poor use of analogy. Who challenged mongo park? Meanwhile, rationalist international has proven through its president Edamaruku that juju doesn't exists (there is a live video on YouTube for this - search for tantra challenge) Secondly, for over 50years, no one has claimed the prize for proof of paranormal. I have done juju before to recover my stolen laptop. I ended up buying a new one If this is not enough proof that juju doesn't exists, then you have to bring your own juju man. I cant be wasting my time on challenge you are not interested in when I'm sure I'm only going to waste my time. |
Re: Do Money Rituals Actually Work? by Vickiweezy(m): 4:15pm On Sep 17, 2017 |
obekediamondfuto: ObekediamondFUTO, you disappoint me and to even think you're a student of FUTO. If u in d streetz you should know dat hard work pays. To be big and catch ur dreams, u gotta hustle, u have to grind, you have to work hard. You don't need to sacrifice human life, that's BS. Hustle don't need such BS. |
Re: Do Money Rituals Actually Work? by obekediamondfuto(m): 5:10pm On Sep 17, 2017 |
Vickiweezy: nope pally, all done with school like centuries ago..... I use the moniker for what it is; a moniker. secondly, what pays is smart work, u have to modify the "hard" to smart! Hussle becomes easier with knowledge not with power, when u say hard, people tend to read Physically Muscular peeps and their body guard, Mason , militia expertise....... does it pay as much as u make it look? no it doesn't smart work requires knowledge mixed with skill to provide efficiency..... marrying accuracy and with speed, minimizing losses both net and gross. hope u understand? ps I dont believe I typed anything That implies that I encourage rituals..... I don't .... I only commented to correct u and stop ur comment from affecting others. cheers |
Re: Do Money Rituals Actually Work? by profmallor: 5:34pm On Sep 17, 2017 |
see now you dont even know your own history. Its white people that did all those story you listed, your ancestors were fighting wars, enslaving other tribes and villages, sacrificing whole humans and new borne babies to acquire power. Yes, spiritual and demonic power for dominating other humans. The sort of power that makes blood money look like childs play. Knowledge is good yes, but even that is relative. What is knowledge today is disputed tomorrow as technology and science as the white man defines it evolves. Africa has its own techonlogy if you must know, and one of such is this topic being discussed. Know your history so your understanding of your future can be clearer. And I still insist, a black man as an atheist is a very sad story. Deicide: |
Re: Do Money Rituals Actually Work? by Deicide: 6:19pm On Sep 17, 2017 |
profmallor:I mixed both @Reded you are very stupid!! the power they acquired that enabled them not to be enslaved by the whites? and pls which technilogy does african has? |
Re: Do Money Rituals Actually Work? by Niflheim(m): 6:44pm On Sep 17, 2017 |
@op, If it was real, then it would have had a serious effect on the inflation rate. Also, the Law of Conservation of Energy has never, can never and will never be violated, so where did all that money come from? Money rituals is real and yet Nigerians are smoking lizard shit to get high? They can't afford Colombian Coco? |
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