bigbus:

Hi, sorry about your denial. Typically, people mention things they want to see in New York when it's their choice tourist destination. Then again, what travel dates were you proposing? For the winter is harsh there at the moment. About your UK visas, I have one curiosity. Did you apply for the UK visas jointly?
Meanwhile, perhaps you can take another family vacation to another country: I am sure you are considering this already. All the best.

Yes, we applied jointly. The VO would allow me to talk further .

Infiosa:
Hi all....our transcript., 10:45am, 02/02/18, Lagos (me, wiffy and and our 2 children 6(son) and 4 (daughter) I was denied in 2015 based on 214b and it was unbelievable.

Vo- Good morning waving at my children
Us- Good morning.
Vo- why and where are u going to the US
Me- We are going to New York City for family vacation
vo- why New York?
Me - I said that from the research I have been made to know that it's one of the finest tourist centers in the world.
Vo- ok, and what d u do?
Me- I am a senior IP Design Specialist with xyz Telecom and I wanted to explain further but she stopped me
Vo- ma, what do u do?
Wife - Homemaker
Vo- have u traveled out of the country before
me - Yes, I have traveled to India 2015, Belgium and Netherland in 2016 and My family and I also traveled to the UK
the same year, I was in Dubai in 2017 for self-sponsored training and I just returned from the UK and Ireland trip 2 weeks ago.
Vo - She asked again if we have traveled together as a family
Both of us- yes. December 2016
Vo- scrutinizing our visas with an instrument.
Vo- she started typing for 2 to 3 mins
Vo- The next thing from her was sorry you are qualified for the visa this time... you could.......

I didn't bother to listen to the rest of her speech...Just right there I concluded that American embassy does not have a
right visa application process. The so-called VO just grant and deny visa at their discretion

I used to say it...... Us embassy Vo issued visa on their own. Majority of those that were granted visa are not genuine visitor infact those people with fake documents were getting visa these days, genuine applicant were declined

NeyofeedNigEnt:


I used to say it...... Us embassy Vo issued visa on their own. Majority of those that were granted visa are not genuine visitor infact those people with fake documents were getting visa these days, genuine applicant were declined

Lol! And how do you know that?

Not all those visa applicants who claim they are genuine are really so.

Learn to take people's visa interview transcripts here with a grain of salt...meaning there's always two sides to every event.

Explain futher at the bolded

Beautyaddy:


Lol! And how do you know that?

Not all those visa applicants who claim they are genuine are really so.

Lean to take people's visa interview transcripts here with a grain of salt...meaning there's two sides to every event.

Infiosa:
Hi all....our transcript., 10:45am, 02/02/18, Lagos (me, wiffy and and our 2 children 6(son) and 4 (daughter) I was denied in 2015 based on 214b and it was unbelievable.

Vo- Good morning waving at my children
Us- Good morning.
Vo- why and where are u going to the US
Me- We are going to New York City for family vacation
vo- why New York?
Me - I said that from the research I have been made to know that it's one of the finest tourist centers in the world.
Vo- ok, and what d u do?
Me- I am a senior IP Design Specialist with xyz Telecom and I wanted to explain further but she stopped me
Vo- ma, what do u do?
Wife - Homemaker
Vo- have u traveled out of the country before
me - Yes, I have traveled to India 2015, Belgium and Netherland in 2016 and My family and I also traveled to the UK
the same year, I was in Dubai in 2017 for self-sponsored training and I just returned from the UK and Ireland trip 2 weeks ago.
Vo - She asked again if we have traveled together as a family
Both of us- yes. December 2016
Vo- scrutinizing our visas with an instrument.
Vo- she started typing for 2 to 3 mins
Vo- The next thing from her was sorry you are not qualified for the visa this time... you could.......

I didn't bother to listen to the rest of her speech...Just right there I concluded that American embassy does not have a
right visa application process. The so-called VO just grant and deny visa at their discretion

The message could be lost if you keep omitting "not" in it. You are quite pained i can see, sorry about the refusal.... Your last trip out of Nigeria to the UK and Ireland was for what purpose? Is there any marked difference in your last DS160 form and this one? Will you please furnish us with your previous interview transcript? Sometimes it works better when you deliberately refuse to apply for all members of your family so as to create more ties.

However will ask, at what point exactly did this interview end, what was the last question? Your travel history and that of your family particularly, are they legit (don't let one agent go and be speaking "turenchi" for you and giving "yeye" assurances while introducing fakes into your passport as travel history)? You come across as one pouring out his real heart (that's your LinkedIn details you put out here I presume, whether built or real), but one has to watch it still! You somehow seem to be over-pushing this thing though, especially with the letter written, have a grip of you I will suggest.... Regards

Infiosa:
Yes, we applied jointly. The VO would not allow me to talk further .

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quote author=NeyofeedNigEnt post=64736596]

I used to say it...... Us embassy Vo issued visa on their own. Majority of those that were granted visa are not genuine visitor infact those people with fake documents were getting visa these days, genuine applicant were declined [/quote] Very correct ....

NeyofeedNigEnt:


I used to say it...... Us embassy Vo issued visa on their own. Majority of those that were granted visa are not genuine visitor infact those people with fake documents were getting visa these days, genuine applicant were declined

Shebi they are checking those documents? Calm down and concentrate on finding out how and why visa denials happen.... As simple a reason as filling form wrongly, one can get denied even though normally qualified. Dem no dey pump chest take approach these visa people, na settle down things.

I normally can't be more qualified than my MD, after two refusals, he had to humble himself to get a US visa despite being up there and widely traveled.

OmoBendel24:


The message could be lost if you keep omitting "not" in it. You are quite pained i can see, sorry about the refusal.... Your last trip out of Nigeria to the UK and Ireland was for what purpose? Is there any marked difference in your last DS160 form and this one? Will you please furnish us with your previous interview transcript? Sometimes it works better when you deliberately refuse to apply for all members of your family so as to create more ties.

However will ask, at what point exactly did this interview end, what was the last question? Your travel history and that of your family particularly, are they legit (don't let one agent go and be speaking "turenchi" for you and giving "yeye" assurances while introducing fakes into your passport as travel history)? You come across as one pouring out his real heart (that's your LinkedIn details you put out here I presume, whether built or real), but one has to watch it still! You somehow seem to be over-pushing this thing though, especially with the letter written, have a grip of you I will suggest.... Regards

Asking if my travel history are geniuine sound insultive as I have never gone through any agent in my life. I usually read through each country's visa requirement and apply accordingly. Yes, there was mark difference between the las DS160 form and this one but it doesnt's matter. That's my real linkedin profile and it's real not built and I am still stuck to my point that US's VOs grant and deny people at their discretion. It seems you really want to know about my first denial ? It was in 2015 when I was going to write my CCIE practical lab and I decided to write it in San Jose as one of the few centers in the world and it was four us who were preparing for the same exam in the same office. I started the preparating two year before every other person joined when they all saw my determination as the exam is said to be one the most difficult IT exam in the world . one of us chose Brusel in Belgium and the rest of us chose San Jose in US. I slept in the office for four years preparing for the exam. As it was time to write the exam, I applied for US visa first being the first person who was very ready to go and I was denied and ther rest of my colleagues who applied affterwards were granted. It now became worrysome in my office as the exam has been paid for (1600 usd) and one can only reschudeule with additional 500 usd to another location. Rescheduling was not the case but getting another exam seat was then big issue and Cisco was retiring that version (version 3) to version 4. Do u know what that mean ? Automatically I will have to go back and start preparing for the new version for at least another 2 or 3 years. At this point, those with visas to write their exams could not express their happiness and it was five months to the retirement of version 3. I eventually got a seat through an online study Indian colleague who felt I have helped and contributed immensely by solving difficult tasks in the group . I was meant to be first to write the practical lab but i was forced to be the last to write the exam in May 14th 2015 in Bangalore, India . I passed the exam on first attempt and I decided to take my family round the world for their support. Honestly I am not frowning at their denial but their generic reason for denial (214b). My first Irish visa application was denied but reasons highlighted , I appealed and my family and I were granted in less than 2 days . So bro, I read through each country's visa requirement thoroughly.

Yes, I partly agreed with you that the situation is a bit over-pushed by putting my linkedin profile out here which has been corected but I didn’t agree with the letter part. It is said the way it is and just as I have said in the letter to them. I will take my family to Disneyland Paris and focus on my CCDE preparation next year. When I am through with d CCDE , I will then apply for Canadian visiting visa for the family vacation where documents are properly investigated and verified. Thanks anyway for your words and concern.

Less I forget, prior to 2015, I have never applied for any visa appication because I didnt have any reason for traveling. I was then buiding a professional profile so as to earn more and be recognized for professonalism. I can categorically say I have always been handling my stuff.

Regards,

bigbus:

Hi, sorry about your denial. Typically, people mention things they want to see in New York when it's their choice tourist destination. Then again, what travel dates were you proposing? For the winter is harsh there at the moment. About your UK visas, I have one curiosity. Did you apply for the UK visas jointly?
Meanwhile, perhaps you can take another family vacation to another country: I am sure you are considering this already. All the best.

Thanks bro, it doesn't have be US.

OmoBendel24:


Shebi they are checking those documents? Calm down and concentrate on finding out how and why visa denials happen.... As simple a reason as filling form wrongly, one can get denied even though normally qualified. Dem no dey pump chest take approach these visa people, na settle down things.

I normally can't be more qualified than my MD, after two refusals, he had to humble himself to get a US visa despite being up there and widely traveled.

if your boss who is more qualified was refused two times then something is wrong with their process. I think we should call a spade a spade.

@ infiosa you are very correct alot is wrong with their system indeed I was refused this month too after two refusals with good job, travel history and all their so called ties. So you just wondered what is the problem again. I read your script and that suppose to earn you the visa without any hassle but those vo prefers to give the visa to applicants with cooked up stories, documents and intentions. They only use thumb of rule in taking decisions on applications without any reasonable verification on individuals.

Infiosa:
if your boss who is more qualified was refused two times then something is wrong with their process. I think we should call a spade a spade.

Thanks for calling a spade a spade brother. There are more beautiful places to visit in the world with unique and sane visa processing. I will still send them mail professionally and keep escalating their processing. I dont give a Bleep if I am banned for escalating them to the right authorities. Not going to America does not mean I will not do well in life, moreover any future US visa application will be handled through employment - I have built and I will keep buiding such professional profile. Thanks bro.

kay50:
@ infiosa you are very correct alot is wrong with their system indeed I was refused this month too after two refusals with good job, travel history and all their so called ties. So you just wondered what is the problem again. I read your script and that suppose to earn you the visa without any hassle but those vo prefers to give the visa to applicants with cooked up stories, documents and intentions. They only use thumb of rule in taking decisions on applications without any reasonable verification on individuals.

Infiosa.
Choice destination for Vacation for kids of their age is Florida (even for Americans living in America) as they have fun theme parks for kids.
Did you do your research?
Anyways, Dubai now has theme parks for kids... consider going there instead.

you are right infiosa. The VOs are all cloaked under the veneer of formalities and rules when it comes to granting visas to applicants because the real truth is that their decision to grant people visas is arbitrary. Pull yourself together and make it up to your fam. Go someplace else.

Thanks bro...Florida was part of what I filled in the DS160 Form but the VO would allow me to talk further. What was filled in the form was that the first one week will be spent in New york highlighting places to visit such Central Park, Times Square, Rockerfeller Center and few others. We will then go to Florida and spend 3 to 4 days to visit Disneyworld and return to New york and then reurn to naija. Baba, those guys do not have a process, that's my conclusion. Thanks anyway, I have decided to take my family to Disneyland Paris.

sugah:
Infiosa.
Choice destination for Vacation for kids of their age is Florida (even for Americans living in America) as they have fun theme parks for kids.
Did you do your research?
Anyways, Dubai now has theme parks for kids... consider going there instead.

Thanks bro for seeing it from my own angle. I have decided to take them to Disneyland Paris in France. I am sure it will be more fun as they will be to see other European countries.

iRyan:
you are right infiosa. The VOs are all cloaked under the veneer of formalities and rules when it comes to granting visas to applicants because the real truth is that their decision to grant people visas is arbitrary. Pull yourself together and make it up to your fam. Go someplace else.

sugah:
Infiosa.
Choice destination for Vacation for kids of their age is Florida (even for Americans living in America) as they have fun theme parks for kids.
Did you do your research?
Anyways, Dubai now has theme parks for kids... consider going there instead.

what if his family are hippies and would rather vacation someplace unconventional? would that be a good reason to deny genuine applicants. of courses not. Its his money he can decide to do it wherever he wants.

Hello Gurus,

There is a place on the DS-160 form asking to quote HOW MUCH

The immigration law gives them that discretion. Their country, their rules.

Infiosa:
Hi all....our transcript., 10:45am, 02/02/18, Lagos (me, wiffy and and our 2 children 6(son) and 4 (daughter) I was denied in 2015 based on 214b and it was unbelievable.

Vo- Good morning waving at my children
Us- Good morning.
Vo- why and where are u going to the US
Me- We are going to New York City for family vacation
vo- why New York?
Me - I said that from the research I have been made to know that it's one of the finest tourist centers in the world.
Vo- ok, and what d u do?
Me- I am a senior IP Design Specialist with xyz Telecom and I wanted to explain further but she stopped me
Vo- ma, what do u do?
Wife - Homemaker
Vo- have u traveled out of the country before
me - Yes, I have traveled to India 2015, Belgium and Netherland in 2016 and My family and I also traveled to the UK
the same year, I was in Dubai in 2017 for self-sponsored training and I just returned from the UK and Ireland trip 2 weeks ago.
Vo - She asked again if we have traveled together as a family
Both of us- yes. December 2016
Vo- scrutinizing our visas with an instrument.
Vo- she started typing for 2 to 3 mins
Vo- The next thing from her was sorry you are qualified for the visa this time... you could.......

I didn't bother to listen to the rest of her speech...Just right there I concluded that American embassy does not have a
right visa application process. The so-called VO just grant and deny visa at their discretion

A VISA IS A PRIVILEGE, NOT A RIGHT.

kay50:
@ infiosa you are very correct alot is wrong with their system indeed I was refused this month too after two refusals with good job, travel history and all their so called ties. So you just wondered what is the problem again. I read your script and that suppose to earn you the visa without any hassle but those vo prefers to give the visa to applicants with cooked up stories, documents and intentions. They only use thumb of rule in taking decisions on applications without any reasonable verification on individuals.

Better. A VISA IS A PRIVILEGE, NOT A RIGHT. If they don't give you, go to where you are given.

Infiosa:
Thanks bro for seeing it from my own angle. I have decided to take them to Disneyland Paris in France. I am sure it will be more fun as they will be to see other European countries.

iRyan:
what if his family are hippies and would rather vacation someplace unconventional? would that be a good reason to deny genuine applicants. of courses not. Its his money he can decide to do it wherever he wants.

I don't claim to know why he was denied, I just followed a thought process. Just as it's his money to spend, it's the VO's discretion to approve visas.
That's why the gurus always say no one can evaluate chances.

A VISA IS A PRIVILEGE, NOT A RIGHT.

Infiosa:
if your boss who is more qualified was refused two times then something is wrong with their process. I think we should call a spade a spade.

Infiosa:
if your boss who is more qualified was refused two times then something is wrong with their process. I think we should call a spade a spade.

what worked here was the school pass? U get me ryt. Every applicant are being given a school check before the said fake interview�. What the junior staff achieved under school level made him qualify. An unknown private sector ain't considered as a job tie. The only job tie is working with the state/federal government or well established private firm like banks shell etc. People feel the huge salaries is also a tie NO salaries only show that u can afford the trip as per people Wey dey carry 2 or more travel. So if u have a weak school background forget your current job �. go get a professional certificate under your field like Ican or forda more on getting master for a solid school pass. NO TO FAKE TRAVEL HISTORY. Age range: they don't expect 18 - 24 to be married yet so once ur are married on your form them go refuse u to wait until u build your claim family ties � 27 upward u should be married and if u are not they focus on your school pass and current job. Being self employed is a good one but this people go still check the school u went and what u studied.

A VISA IS A PRIVILEGE, NOT A RIGHT.

Infiosa:
Asking if my travel history are geniuine sound insultive as I have never gone through any agent in my life. I usually read through each country's visa requirement and apply accordingly. Yes, there was mark difference between the las DS160 form and this one but it doesnt's matter. That's my real linkedin profile and it's real not built and I am still stuck to my point that US's VOs grant and deny people at their discretion. It seems you really want to know about my first denial ? It was in 2015 when I was going to write my CCIE practical lab and I decided to write it in San Jose as one of the few centers in the world and it was four us who were preparing for the same exam in the same office. I started the preparating two year before every other person joined when they all saw my determination as the exam is said to be one the most difficult IT exam in the world . one of us chose Brusel in Belgium and the rest of us chose San Jose in US. I slept in the office for four years preparing for the exam. As it was time to write the exam, I applied for US visa first being the first person who was very ready to go and I was denied and ther rest of my colleagues who applied affterwards were granted. It now became worrysome in my office as the exam has been paid for (1600 usd) and one can only reschudeule with additional 500 usd to another location. Rescheduling was not the case but getting another exam seat was then big issue and Cisco was retiring that version (version 3) to version 4. Do u know what that mean ? Automatically I will have to go back and start preparing for the new version for at least another 2 or 3 years. At this point, those with visas to write their exams could not express their happiness and it was five months to the retirement of version 3. I eventually got a seat through an online study Indian colleague who felt I have helped and contributed immensely by solving difficult tasks in the group . I was meant to be first to write the practical lab but i was forced to be the last to write the exam in May 14th 2015 in Bangalore, India . I passed the exam on first attempt and I decided to take my family round the world for their support. Honestly I am not frowning at their denial but their generic reason for denial (214b). My first Irish visa application was denied but reasons highlighted , I appealed and my family and I were granted in less than 2 days . So bro, I read through each country's visa requirement thoroughly.

Yes, I partly agreed with you that the situation is a bit over-pushed by putting my linkedin profile out here which has been corected but I didn’t agree with the letter part. It is said the way it is and just as I have said in the letter to them. I will take my family to Disneyland Paris and focus on my CCDE preparation next year. When I am through with d CCDE , I will then apply for Canadian visiting visa for the family vacation where documents are properly investigated and verified. Thanks anyway for your words and concern.

Less I forget, prior to 2015, I have never applied for any visa appication because I didnt have any reason for traveling. I was then buiding a professional profile so as to earn more and be recognized for professonalism. I can categorically say I have always been handling my stuff.

Regards,

A true tourist won't be worked up by a visa refusal. He will take his money elsewhere. #JustSaying

Hello Gurus,

Please I need your advice......

*There is a space on the DS-160 form asking me to quote HOW MUCH one earns monthly in local currency (if employed)?

My own case is this, I work with skye bank and I do other side business as well with my registered company. Should I quote monthly income from Skye bank with the amount I am earning from my other business? OR I should just quote my Skye Bank Monthly income?

Please Advise as my interview is Next Week Friday and I need to complete the form and submit before Friday.

Thanks and I do hope to read from you in due course.

1. In the form, put your skye bank income.
2. At the interview, mention you earn x with skye bank in addition to y that you earn in your side business.

ayinkala:
Hello Gurus,

Please I need your advice......

*There is a space on the DS-160 form asking me to quote HOW MUCH one earns monthly in local currency (if employed)?

My own case is this, I work with skye bank and I do other side business as well with my registered company. Should I quote monthly income from Skye bank with the amount I am earning from my other business? OR I should just quote my Skye Bank Monthly income?

Please Advise as my interview is Next Week Friday and I need to complete the form and submit before Friday.

Thanks and I do hope to read from you in due course.

Infiosa:
Baba, those guys do not have a process, that's my conclusion. Thanks anyway, I have decided to take my family to Disneyland Paris.

If there was a 'set' process, believe me Nigerians would have beaten it.
People have manufactured spouses, children, School qualifications, jobs, travel history, conferences just because they believe it is what the VO would consider a tie and Grant their visa. Yet you find genuine first time applicants without any of the aforementioned getting Visas. I believe these VOs are trained psychologists and the interview is just an evaluation

sugah:

If there was a 'set' process, believe me Nigerians would have beaten it.
People have manufactured spouses, children, School qualifications, jobs, travel history, conferences just because they believe it is what the VO would consider a tie and Grant their visa. Yet you find genuine first time applicants without any of the aforementioned getting Visas. I believe these VOs are trained psychologists and the interview is just an evaluation

Being a trained psychologists does not mean they are not prone to human error or that they could not make wrong judgement sometimes but like kaptainafrica said visa is a privilege and not a right and then again those denied also have right to there opinion cause they paid for the visa denied

sugah:

If there was a 'set' process, believe me Nigerians would have beaten it.
People have manufactured spouses, children, School qualifications, jobs, travel history, conferences just because they believe it is what the VO would consider a tie and Grant their visa. Yet you find genuine first time applicants without any of the aforementioned getting Visas. I believe these VOs are trained psychologists and the interview is just an evaluation

they ain't psychologist. Everybody under go school background pass. If u have a sound edu that's 1. Having a secured job is 2 not a job u can leave. U no fit dey work for known establish company with good job position run. (dey verify applicants with strong job tie Doctors bankers State/federal workers etc NO TO FRAUD). Most people are being denied because of their weak school background.Nysc corper without job has been given Visa Why? School pass. What she studied strong and her university na A list. So applicant shouldn't count current job as a tie if your Job Security is not strong. I read about 12 student applyin and only half qualified why? School Courses differed. So School background and current job's (Security) na im people dey fail forget travel history or how many pikin u born or leaving behind

siina:
Being a trained psychologists does not mean they are not prone to human error or that they could not make wrong judgement sometimes but like kaptainafrica said visa is a privilege and not a right and then again those denied also have right to there opinion cause they paid for the visa denied

I'm not sure what our argument is