GavelSlam:


How were their businesses doing before they started eating from the vineyard?

BluntBoy:


You are not God so you cannot know how God intends to use his own. John the Baptist was very insultive. Even Jesus was never easy on the religious leaders.

These wealthy pastors are like the Pharisees who do not want to make heaven and yet will not allow good Christians make it. They do not need gentle words. They need the harsh words of John the Baptist.

delexy123:
Wait! do you just slyly compare Freeze to John the Baptist? Yes, John the Baptist use 'hard' words on pharisees but he was PRIMARY known for preaching repentance opening. Have you ever seen Freeze or whatever use his social handle to convert sinners to Christ? You just picked up one aspect of John's life and qualified Freeze with it so that you could drive a narrative. This comparison of yours is an intellectual dishonesty...

salford1:
so churches now collect business loan

this best describes the self indicting part of Apostle Madubuko's statements. Banks will be glad to give them the loans after studying the population of sheeples under the Pastor, how much they grab and deposit weekly.
Will Jesus take a Business Loan, is taking loans from a world system part of the Go into the world and make disciples?
Pastorpreneurs and their Church industries have good ideas on how to invest 'Levitical' tithes.
The volume of trade at the stock exchange daily ensures some of these Pastors/Bishops with huge shares smile daily. The brockers with affiliation to such Pastors are big boys and so dedicated to such Churches not because they love God but purely business.

slowice:
What's this craze about men of God n tithes... I mean pastors re the least of out problem.. We ve gotten so low as a people that some of us expect pastors n churches to build us roads , school, provide us with jobs, hospitals, pipe born water etc is that their job? How can you hate on somebody for being prosperous? Really? Re you the devil? This madness must end.

Unik3030:
in this case u are the moronic idiot, so if u have 5000members in a church n let's say there each collect a salary of 100k per month, that's 10k *(let's say 4000people pay tithe). fool, how much is that per month n they do that for 12months in a year,plus donation to church development,different fund raising program for church n many voluntary donations. so I think they can't buy jet with this? if all members of redeemed worldwide can pay a tithe of 5k per month, don't u know what that translates to in billions or u think private jet Na wash. I don't blame u, no matter what I say u won't understand I have been there b4 n i understand how we see pastors as saints. I pray God open your eyes to reality

bezimo:


You are the bastard idiot here.. on what basis are you assuming 80% of church members tithe which I know is very far from the truth., On what basis are you assuming their income, thus projecting the tithing revenue. .You are the one whose understand is bankrupt whose mind needs desperate reorientation to the truth. You have never been there so get lost with your garbage nonsense rant as if tithers asked for your dirty garbage opinion.

Topgainer:

And someone said this man is a Pastor in one of the branches of the Auchi Church.

bezimo:


You are the bastard idiot here.. on what basis are you assuming 80% of church members tithe which I know is very far from the truth., On what basis are you assuming their income, thus projecting the tithing revenue. .You are the one whose understand is bankrupt whose mind needs desperate reorientation to the truth. You have never been there so get lost with your garbage nonsense rant as if tithers asked for your dirty garbage opinion.

Unik3030:
go n study your Bible well so u can free yourself from spiritual slavery

cescky:
Truth right there

Case study go to winner's ota ..mainly average income peps the cream de la cream do g to ota to worship..

It's the blessings of God that maketh rich..

It's simply a LAW at work
Law of Faith
Law of cause and effect
Law of attraction

It's All the same

boringnigerian:


Is this to say the pastors have more faith than all their congregation?

cescky:


faith isnt about the mass or quantity, but the strength and quality even if its from one person its adequate to move the whole world...

the world is filled with water..but it doesnt mean its ice block...one ice block is block, though its the same material of water...

another person cant believe or have faith for you...thats where christianity has missed it

boringnigerian:


Lemme rephrase then - is it that the quality of the pastors faith is purer and higher than that of all the congregation?

delexy123:
Wait! do you just slyly compare Freeze to John the Baptist? Yes, John the Baptist use 'hard' words on pharisees but he was PRIMARY known for preaching repentance opening. Have you ever seen Freeze or whatever use his social handle to convert sinners to Christ? You just picked up one aspect of John's life and qualified Freeze with it so that you could drive a narrative. This comparison of yours is an intellectual dishonesty...

salford1:
so churches now collect business loan

oruma19:
why won't he compare freeze to john the baptist? Was john not a prophet too? Why sound like he compared from freeze to God? Nna leave that matter. Our pastors are pharisees and saducees. They are selfish pple who mostly don't believe in what they preach. U can't believe there is a heaven and still be amassing all the wealth of the world to urself. We are not fools, Jesus said, where ur treasure is, there will ur heartbbe also. Their treasure is on earth. Forget that matter.

newsynews:
There are so many false prophets out there. But one thing I know is that Daddy Freeze isn't called by God going by how he rains insults on those with opposing views.

If he were truly called by God, he would know that all he needs to do is just lay the seed and God will water it, not go fighting to force words into people. You can't fight for God.

lalasticlala

BluntBoy:


Can you read at all? Someone said Freeze couldn't be a man of God simply because of his insults and I reminded the person that God chooses whom He wants and uses him how He wants. I can give you more people in the Bible who were even harsher than John the Baptist and did not preach repentence. Elijah was one and the man who rebuked Eli was another.

delexy123:
Using Elijah as your line of defence just reinforced the point I made earlier. Elijah was first and foremost a PROPHET whose prophesies always come to past. Pls, show me any other men of God in the Bible whose only call is just to criticise like Freeze is constantly doing. Yes, God give his servants different gifts but I have never read in the Bible where he gave anyone the gift of criticism...you can show me whenever you find one. Criticising is very sweet and trust me, anyone can do it just fine but people WHO made positive impacts in others lives are not just talkatives, they ACT out what they say. I will start taking him serious when he decide to set up foundation to help the poor people he always call sheep rather than the usual talks and rhetorics which have become over flogged and tiring.

cescky:


you still dont understand it ..do some home work and good night

delexy123:
Wait! do you just slyly compare Freeze to John the Baptist? Yes, John the Baptist use 'hard' words on pharisees but he was PRIMARY known for preaching repentance opening. Have you ever seen Freeze or whatever use his social handle to convert sinners to Christ? You just picked up one aspect of John's life and qualified Freeze with it so that you could drive a narrative. This comparison of yours is an intellectual dishonesty...

delexy123:
Freeze is a prophet? tell me more. ...Oga, what freeze is popularly known for is CRITICISM and trust me, anyone can do just that. He thrives in cynicism because that is one of the easiest thing to do. I have not seen a thread where he set up a foundation to fund the poor people he always call sheep. The day he start showing example by acting rather than his usual cheap talk is the day I will begin to take him serious.