agaugust:


Prove it with clear Source
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patches689:


Or maybe UNITA had better MANPADS because the Americans gave them Stingers

Maybe, Stingers allowed them to shoot down more Mig's because the Stinger was better than what we had at the time?

Stop looking for cheap insults you clown

patches689:


centurion uses petrol engine

They were equipped with petrol engines, which necessitated the use of an extra externally mounted 100-imperial-gallon (450 L) fuel tank, which was attached to the vehicle's rear.[19][27]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centurion_tank

All olifants Mk1 use diesel engines
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centurion_tank#South_Africa_2

All SANDF Olifants were upgraded to Mk1 standard in 1985
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equipment_of_the_South_African_Army

If you bothered to spend 5 min on google you would not have wasted everyones time, and furthermore, you would not have yet again illustrated what an argumentative child you are.

Your petulance is tiresome.

agaugust:


Prove it with clear Source
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jln115:

We are building our own unlike nigeria which buys all their equipment!

agaugust:


Truth hurts you butt hurt .

Your 'Maybe' is your private imagination.

Over 80% of Bush War soldiers on SADF's side were Angolan men of UNITA and FLNA rebels, so they get 80% of the glory, Cuban MiG-23 was always attacking them not you !
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Henry120:


Which modern fighter doesn't have Fly by wire? They all do.

The Eurofighter is an interceptor/ dog fighter, built with a Cold war mindset and designed primarily for Air-Air combat.

EADS is only recently rolling out Ground attack variants. Instead, you should have mentioned the french Rafale which was designed for Air-ground combat operations as it's primary role.

I don't know why you SAns keep mentioning the Gripen, all right, let's go with the supposed 170 km/h min speed, it is still too fast for CAS, how many jihadists can you hope to killl flying at that speed?

The JF-17 and all other fighters can carry out COIN. NAF use both the F-7, L-39z and alpha jets for COIN operations. If eventually Nigeria gets the JF-17's, they would be used for COIN duties. However, they would beg for the effectiveness the Super tucano and A-10's can provide.


My point is, kobani is proof, CAS = CAS based assets. You think any other airforce's around the world would have the luxury of more than 270 airstrikes on a single town?

agaugust:


Nigeria is the first country in Africa to build a modern stealth warship.

Germany built ALL South African frigates and submarines
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MikeCZAR:
Just ask what you'd wanna know.

jln115:

China built your ships for you in Nigeria

EVarn:
*dismissed*,they only transfered measly technology to us,the NN did the rest.unlike the toothless SAN.

agaugust:


UNITA shot down more MiG-23 at close range than SADF....Means UNITA faced more deadly air attacks than SADF.

80% of Angolan war was fought by UNITA in that bush war era, historical records show that !
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agaugust:



Nigeria named what we are buying....JF-17 Thunder.

You name what OPV South Africa is buying...answer now !
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jln115:

www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=33409:china-launches-first-nigerian-offshore-patrol-vessel&catid=51:Sea&Itemid=106

www.janes.com/article/45252/china-completes-sea-trials-for-nigerian-opv
Its a Chinese ship, but what does it matter if it is a Chinese built ship or not, you have it dont you?

ActivateKruger:


We're building them to suit our needs... that's the SANDF way

ActivateKruger:


Prove that 80% of the Bush War was fought by UNITA

patches689:


Nope, we have shown that all Olifant Mk1's use diesel not standard petrol engines.

Retaarrd!

patches689:


New IPV's is the first stage of Project Biro

The re-furbed Warrio class only have 5 years left on their hulls and the Mine-Hunters are also nearing the end of hull life, their replacement takes priority before we aquire new capabilities

Its a clear sign that project Biro is moving ahead as planned, and with bigger orders than anticipated.

sirjerry:
UNITA led the war, you followed.

EVarn:
you're a level headed dude,i like that.but let me correct a misconception:
the first OPV was built in china by both nigerian and chinese naval engineers in order to enhance the transfer of skill and technology to the NN.according to the article 70% of the second OPV will be built in nigeria after a successful transfer of skills.

patches689:


Feel free to show us where it says Nigeria is buying the JF-17

Answer now!

agaugust:


@Andrewza your navy man has been posting Project Biro here over 2 years ago, yet NO single contract, NO ship named, NO single OPV, NO single IPV.....NO money.....SANDF is broke
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agaugust:


Butt Hurt With Burning Envy

Now show me something like this with the name of the OPV South Africa is buying

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jln115:


Ok no problem but its still a Chinese ship with Nigerian components with 70% of the assembly being in Nigeria, just like our Hawks are still british even though all of them were built/assembled in SA with some SA components with the exception of 1.

For example all of toyotas exported to the southern hemisphere are built in SA, does that then make toyota South African?

MikeCZAR:


1. When?

2. Where?

3. Name thee unitv

4. How you reached that percentage?

jln115:




For example all of toyotas exported to the southern hemisphere are built in SA, does that then make toyota South African?

agaugust:


Butt Hurt With Burning Envy

Now show me something like this with the name of the OPV South Africa is buying

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EVarn:
i have recently thought of becoming the nigerian president.who will vote for me?.when i become president,the military would be my first and biggest priority.now who will vote for me on this thread?

Henry120:


Exactly. This was how Patches689, MikeZA (now Mikeczar), we're claiming BAE systems as a south-african company.

Today, they've been caught lying, again.


*on all toyota's used in Southern hemisphere claim, I disagree.

jln115:

Hahahahahahahahah forget health-care, Education, Agriculture, infrastructure etc etc. but hey iam not Nigerian so my opinion doesnt count as i cant vote.