saengine:

And the reason Boko Haram even still exits in Nigeria is because your military is powerless to stop them.
Any defence force which is as good as you claim Nigeria's is would have crushed them a long time ago. That is
why you don't get "Boko Haram" type attacks in America, Britain, Germany, Japan etc etc. If such groups do rise up,
they are immediately crushed.

If the Nigerian army know that they have a bomb factory in northern Nigeria why not just have the air force bomb it?
Why not use all that fancy equipment you have and end Boko Haram once and for all?
You dont have to answer me because I know what you're going to say..."it's more complicated than that, they getting external help, blah blah blah"

saengine:

And the reason Boko Haram even still exits in Nigeria is because your military is powerless to stop them.
Any defence force which is as good as you claim Nigeria's is would have crushed them a long time ago. That is
why you don't get "Boko Haram" type attacks in America, Britain, Germany, Japan etc etc. If such groups do rise up,
they are immediately crushed.

If the Nigerian army know that they have a bomb factory in northern Nigeria why not just have the air force bomb it?
Why not use all that fancy equipment you have and end Boko Haram once and for all?
You dont have to answer me because I know what you're going to say..."it's more complicated than that, they getting external help, blah blah blah"

saengine:

And the reason Boko Haram even still exits in Nigeria is because your military is powerless to stop them.
Any defence force which is as good as you claim Nigeria's is would have crushed them a long time ago. That is
why you don't get "Boko Haram" type attacks in America, Britain, Germany, Japan etc etc. If such groups do rise up,
they are immediately crushed.

If the Nigerian army know that they have a bomb factory in northern Nigeria why not just have the air force bomb it?
Why not use all that fancy equipment you have and end Boko Haram once and for all?
You dont have to answer me because I know what you're going to say..."it's more complicated than that, they getting external help, blah blah blah"

Eze Promoe:
Yea, you may see it as such because Nigeria is poor in record-keeping, you can never tell what Nigeria has except in the battle field.
Remember during the civil war, that weapons were built and made by Biafrans.
Boko Haram makes their bomb themselves, they have a number of bomb factory in Northern Nigeria.
South Africa would have being in the dust if it has experienced what Nigeria has experienced.
That's how you get to know who are the real GIANTS

Henry120: Agaugust, thank you for mentioning IRA. The britis government fought them for 27years with no success. Insurgency, especially islmic insurgency/ fanaticism is no easy task battling.

Russia
Turkey
India
Indonesia
Pakistan
Philippines

All of them battling islamic insurgency for more than 10 years now. With the top five with far better militaries than nigeria.

zaandrew:


Wow you are really ignorant. We fought a sviet backed Cuba in Angola. The USSR used the angolan war has a testing ground for all there high tech wepaons. Yet you think your bifar, mend and BH where better.

I can make bomb I know people who could make bombs that would put any thing BH has to shame.

You act like BH's IEDs are that big of a deal. Even the airforce of bifar was a joke compaird to the angolan air force(never mind cuba) during our war there.

agaugust:



South African had support from America, France Britain and Israel against Angola,Cuba USSR. It was a balanced war. South Africa could not have survived Russian weapons alone without European help. South Africa had French Mirage F1 modern jet fighters the very best from France

Eze Promoe:
Why did you use America as an example?
Why not South Africa as usual?
One thing you must know is that BH is not made up of only Nigerians. Chadians, Malians, Nigeriens, Egyptians, Algerians, Libyans, and people from so many other countries are amongst them. Boko Haram also has link with the international al-queda.
So it is not as easy as you say it, but still our military take them every single day in their numbers.
Another problem is that the members of the sects are cowards and can't come out to face the military, they rather hide themselves amongst the civilians, and when the military strikes it will be heard that civilians were killed.
I'm sure South Africa would have send an SOS to the international community if they were to face all these, but we Nigerians choose not to lick the boots of the Westerners.
We face our problem ourselves and we shall surely overcome. Go and think of how you'll bury your soldiers you lost to CAR area boys.
LOL!

saengine:


I can very gladly use South Africa as an example. Even though many many people hate the current South African
government, they won't form violent militant groups like Boko Haram. For the simple fact that they know they wont get away with it. Our defence force getting attacked on home soil by militants simply will never happen, and if it does it will be sorted out.

You answered exactly how I knew you would. I don't care if Boko Haram is made up of soldiers from the moon, that's just an excuse. Why would the great Nigerian army let people from all those countries cause so much chaos in your country? You claim to have the equipment, you claim to have the skills, declare martial law and weed them out street by street. The reason they exist is because they know they can get away with it, simple as that. If an American Boko Haram was hiding amongst civilians, do you think the US army would use that as an excuse? No.

Point is, all countries which do not have such internal problem from rebels or bandits all have strong defence forces or a good security structure. There is a zero tolerance attitude.

saengine:


I can very gladly use South Africa as an example. Even though many many people hate the current South African
government, they won't form violent militant groups like Boko Haram. For the simple fact that they know they wont get away with it. Our defence force getting attacked on home soil by militants simply will never happen, and if it does it will be sorted out.

You answered exactly how I knew you would. I don't care if Boko Haram is made up of soldiers from the moon, that's just an excuse. Why would the great Nigerian army let people from all those countries cause so much chaos in your country? You claim to have the equipment, you claim to have the skills, declare martial law and weed them out street by street. The reason they exist is because they know they can get away with it, simple as that. If an American Boko Haram was hiding amongst civilians, do you think the US army would use that as an excuse? No.

Point is, all countries which do not have such internal problem from rebels or bandits all have strong defence forces or a good security structure. There is a zero tolerance attitude.

patriot4: It is not about the security forces, it is about the menthality of the civilians.
This is the reason why israel got rid of the palestinians who were a large population in Israel.
The palestinians had the menthality of schielding terrorists.
So you see even the israeli security aparatus couldn't deal with them, so it had to frustrate their living Hood and send them out of israel. Your own army couldn't deal with ANC militantism, they gave up and now you have ANC ruling you.

zaandrew:

Non of the former liberstion movemebts where ever a internal threat. They operated from external bases and luanched raides in to SA.

The mass break downs of law and order where never ANC or PAC operstions. Though both supported them and provocted actsion. Most acctual ANC,PACextra(excluding swapo) in SA held lands where small and of no threat.

zaandrew:

all forghin support bar some corvert and intel sharing was stoped in the late 1970s or when the war became really tough.

zaandrew: http://itweb.co.za/mobilesite/defenceweb/home/item_id-30317/

I thought the nigerian navy was so good. But why have you over taken somalia.

patriot4:
You must be kidding yourself, the black South africans were schielding ANC militants and also helping them hide their weapons in South african soil. And yes of course ANC had bases outside South africa, so does boko haram. boko haram is hidden and shielded by the northern muslims (a big chunk of them =70 million peaople) and they have big bases outside Nigeria, places like Niger, Chad and Mali. The difference is that Nigerian army will never give up the fight, and that it will be won.

zaandrew:

Name one major battel in side SA between SA goverment forces and any of the liberstion movements.

saengine:
I can very gladly use South Africa as an example. Even though many many people hate the current South African
government, they won't form violent militant groups like Boko Haram. For the simple fact that they know they wont get away with it. Our defence force getting attacked on home soil by militants simply will never happen, and if it does it will be sorted out.

all countries which do not have such internal problem from rebels or bandits all have strong defence forces or a good security structure. There is a zero tolerance attitude.

agaugust:



Quote Source to prove that claim above.

Also, you still had best weapon from France the Mirage F1 Jet Fighter-Bombers

Cuba that you fought has no combat experience or any war in their history. Most of the Cuban army that fought south African army were young boys conscripts of communism pushed to war without much training and zero experience. South African military had been fighting war since 1930 and had military forces built up by Europeans for over 100 years.

Yet you did NOT win the war. We have posted on that bush war on earlier pages and I don't want to waste my time on it again.

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zaandrew:


You sure you in the defense industry.

Look at when SA got hit with sacstions.

The mirrage was outdated by the 1980s. Hence the cheeta upgrade.

Cuba had fought a revoulnarry war, and held off a US backed bay of pigs. Show a source for your clam of cuba only sending conscripts.

Nor did we loose. The bush war ended with both cuba and SA leaveing angola and angola and swapo cancelling support for the ANC.

patriot4:
The militants/terrorists did strike in SA right ?

patriot4:
The militants/terrorists did strike in SA right ?

zaandrew: P


Sawpo launched a few raides in to south west africa(now nambia) non ever achied any form of victory.

In SA ANC,PAC and others had a few bombings. Non ever threanted the goverment. Then there where periods of internal township uprising but thos where mostly a poliece matter. The SADF only provinding support.

Township uprising still occure today. And they have never had enough power to over throw the goverment.

agaugust:



Post source to prove your claim that Nigerian ocean has more piracy than Somalia with statistics.

The web link in your post mentioned only one single piracy incident in Nigerian waters, but Somalia waters piracy happens many times more than Nigeria.


I thought you claim South African Police was good, why do you still have the highest Murder rate in Africa and the highest R.ape rates in the world ?

If you live in a glass house, don't throw stones .

patriot4: I think you misunderstand me completely.
I do not know what you are arguing about.
I am only showing you that there are more difficult insurgencies than that those two ones you keep bragging about.
I gave you an example of an insurgency you lost.
The ANC, did target white civilians, raped and killed them. That is terrorism. And your armed forces gave the fight up, and now they are ruling you.
The type of terrorism you faced is much less than that Nigeria is facing right now.
So please try to be balanced.
By the way, I want to clarify that apartheid was wrong, but the methods used by some ANC people was just as wrong.

zaandrew:

SADF never gave up the fighting. There was a natsional poll where goverment asked the people if they wanted to end aparthied. I don't think many people know about that.

zaandrew:


You sure you in the defense industry.

Look at when SA got hit with sacstions.

The mirrage was outdated by the 1980s. Hence the cheeta upgrade.

Cuba had fought a revoulnarry war, and held off a US backed bay of pigs. Show a source for your clam of cuba only sending conscripts.

Nor did we loose. The bush war ended with both cuba and SA leaveing angola and angola and swapo cancelling support for the ANC.

zaandrew:

SADF never gave up the fighting. There was a natsional poll where goverment asked the people if they wanted to end aparthied. I don't think many people know about that.

agaugust:


Did you read my post above in this same page about B.oko H.aram ? About similar terrorists in Britain for 30 years the British army could NOT wipe out ? About Russia same situation and also attacks on American soil too. Did you read my post ?

I don't want to call you a F00L but please don't write again without thinking and comparing facts.

An intelligent man knows South Africa is about 90% christan while Nigeria is 40% Muslim so how do you compare ? All south Africa neighborhood countries are 90% Muslim like Zimbabwe, Namibia, Botswana, etc. Nigerian northern neighborhood countries are 100% Muslim.

Can you think now ? Or you still wanna borrow brain ?


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