agaugust: .................................E T H I O P I A............. versus ...........S O U T H - A F R I C A


even ordinary Ethiopian military will stand against South African military and will not be defeated, they will end the fight like iran-iraq war.
ethiopia has no ocean waters so the south african navy becomes useless in the battle because ethiopia is out of range of any south african navy warship if they manage to enter persian gulf, and they cannot shoot over the territory of etritrea, djibouti and somalia, all still too far away from ethiopian lands.



Ethiopian air force pilots are the best in africa and most experienced in modern jet vs jet air combat in this current generation, in year 2000 they used SU-27 jets against MIG 29 jets in real war against eritrea.

it is the most modern war ever in africa today with the best worlds weapons heavily used in that war from year 1998 to 2000

all the nice photo south african weapons and videos posted on this forum have not been used to K.ill any human being and most of the over-rated south african soldiers have not K.illed any enemy soldiers since they joined the army. Ethiopian armed forces will d.amage South african military until their boasting will stop for ever. the war will likely end in a draw, no winner.


the south african airforce 26 Grippens jets will face a powerful ethiopian air force of 8 SU-25 and 18 SU-27 jets with the more experienced ethiopian pilots.

ethiopian military is regularly tested in many wars and proved to be a bloody battlefield K.iiler force anytime anyday, the world respects them.

ethiopian army is the most experienced in africa at country vs country wars and no nation has ever defeated them from africa to arabia.

ethiopian army has 500 anti-aircraft missile launchers hand-held by infantry against enemy aircraft

ethiopia also have over 3,000 anti-tank missiles launched from their T-72 or T-62 tanks and some by infantry hand held against enemy armoured vehicles and tanks

both countries have about the same number of tanks. south africa has about 3 times more APC's. ethiopia has more helicopter gunships 18 against south african 11.

ethiopian army 1,200 heavy artillery guns
south african army 120 heavy artillery guns

ethiopian army 135,000 soldiers very experienced in recent modern combat against several other countries
south african army 30,000 soldiers with zero combat experience in recent times against any other country

all above data is from same source : free internet wikipedia of both nations army and air force

ethiopia is a more powerful military than south africa especially going by the history of both nations in real war.

south african military is just an over-rated force, egypt and algeria will defeat south africa. ethiopia and nigeria are equal in military power to south africa.

simple truth that can be confirmed on free internet information.

agaugust: .................................E T H I O P I A............. versus ...........S O U T H - A F R I C A


even ordinary Ethiopian military will stand against South African military and will not be defeated, they will end the fight like iran-iraq war.
ethiopia has no ocean waters so the south african navy becomes useless in the battle because ethiopia is out of range of any south african navy warship if they manage to enter persian gulf, and they cannot shoot over the territory of etritrea, djibouti and somalia, all still too far away from ethiopian lands.



Ethiopian air force pilots are the best in africa and most experienced in modern jet vs jet air combat in this current generation, in year 2000 they used SU-27 jets against MIG 29 jets in real war against eritrea.

it is the most modern war ever in africa today with the best worlds weapons heavily used in that war from year 1998 to 2000

all the nice photo south african weapons and videos posted on this forum have not been used to K.ill any human being and most of the over-rated south african soldiers have not K.illed any enemy soldiers since they joined the army. Ethiopian armed forces will d.amage South african military until their boasting will stop for ever. the war will likely end in a draw, no winner.


the south african airforce 26 Grippens jets will face a powerful ethiopian air force of 8 SU-25 and 18 SU-27 jets with the more experienced ethiopian pilots.

ethiopian military is regularly tested in many wars and proved to be a bloody battlefield K.iiler force anytime anyday, the world respects them.

ethiopian army is the most experienced in africa at country vs country wars and no nation has ever defeated them form africa to arabia.

ethiopian army has 500 anti-aircraft missile launchers hand-held by infantry against enemy aircraft

ethiopia also have over 3,000 anti-tank missiles launched from their T-72 or T-62 tanks and some by infantry hand held against enemy armoured vehicles and tanks

both countries have about the same number of tanks. south africa has about 3 times more APC's. ethiopia has more helicopter gunships 18 against south african 11.

ethiopian army 1,200 heavy artillery guns
south african army 120 heavy artillery guns

ethiopian army 135,000 soldiers very experienced in recent modern combat against several other countries
south african army 30,000 soldiers with zero combat experience in recent times against any other country

all data is from same source : free internet wikipedia of both nations army and air force

ethiopia is a more powerful military than south africa especially going by the history of both nations in real war. south african military is just an over-rated force, egypt and algeria will defeat south africa. ethiopia and nigeria are equal in military power to south africa. simple truth.

snydergp:

I'm saying that there's a $2bn under funding of the SANDF in order to be a more effective force, last year it was R34bn and the 2013 to March 2014 increased to R44bn with another R2bn
Set aside for emergency deployments for future AU missions. The R10bn increase is equal to a ±$1,02bn.

The problem is that social spending takes preference over the military and the opposition parties in SA especially the DA don't want a bigger SANDF force but a smaller one who should decrease its UN/AU peacekeeping mandates and focus on other more pressing expenditures.

Msauza:

What is it that you are drinking and we don't. Please just say the name I wanna try it too. We all know that Nigeria has a rich economy but the government is poor. THE GOVERMENT OF NIGERIA IS POOR and in fact private citizens have way far more deeper pockets than the government. It is not a secret that the government of Nigeria does not have that financial muscle. If it cannot build just a simple tarred road how will it do all that. We are not fools and we haven't attended schools under trees like most of you did. Don't think that we fancy your dirty overpopulated Nigeria, we know well that Nigeria is poor even though it performs well economically. The money in Nigeria is only meant to line pockets of some few citizens and at the end of the day government gets nothing. Many citizens and business people evade tax like nobody's business, stealing the most needed revenue to feed the poor.

Msauza:

You wish with what money are you going to buy all that. We all know that the government of NGR is poor beyond recognition. The government that cannot even build better roads and infrastructure, where will they get money? It is no secret that private citizens of Nigeria pocket way far bigger chunks of Naira than the government. The government remains poor, while many business people evade tax and there is no system in place to track those who offended and prosecute them.

agaugust: thanks capnd143

Capnd143: Guys Nigeria and india sign an air defense co-operation agreement yesterday, and the india defense minister said that Nigeria should name any area which it wanted assistance/colobration in and india will gladly coperatd . . . 4rm info gathered it seems the are interested in development of SAM's and this one below precisely . , no military journal has been able to give the exact number of blowpipe SAM's we have, some say 40 some say 48, most of them are using 1980-2001 figures, thats y we are being degraded! Even this SAM below is yet to be counted! . Yet the journals claim wrong values.

sheyie2007: a thousand of nigerian soldiers with that so called wooden butt ak47 will bring SA to a stand still ..

agaugust:


msauza your comment above shows how F00LISH the average south african man's brain can be.

america CANNOT suffer one single casualty from south africa, we just sit down in washington and launch 100 nuclear long range ballistic missile to 100 cities in south africa and roast it like chicken barbecue, then there will be no more country named south africa on the map of the world, we wipe it out completely in 5 minutes of nuclear warhead ICBM missile detonation.

see two nuclear weapons photos below and kiss your wife goodbye for the last time, america has dug a big grave to bury south africa.

the mentally d.iminished south africans are now saying they will defeat not only nigeria, but also that south african military will defeat american military. i am just getting to know that we have mentally d.eformed south africans on this forum. what a shame to their nation !

andrewza:

SAPS could handel them.

Henry120:

You're an idio*t syndergp

Since I've gotten that off my mind, you get 5mins of sanity everyday from 24hrs, you obviously made this post during your 5mins Sanity window period.
Now, I get what you've been rambling about.

"We also allocated over 6 billion usd for national security purposes, comprised of 2billion usd for the police, and for the Armed Forces(2.6 billion usd), 1.2 billion usd for the Office of the NSA( SSS and NIA)".

Nigeria's defence budget 2013.

Nigeria's security budget was a little higher than this at 6.4 billion usd, for the year 2012 with the armed forces and intelligence( office of the NSA) taking 4.3 billion USD

sheyie2007:
The fat asses that can't even aim

andrewza:


And you faild to understand what I said. I said the valour is better than the nearest amrican equvelnt to witch you repond with proto typs that are unarmend and LCS a cotal ship with only a few point deffense wepaons and guns set up for NGS. It ois not set up for warfare vs a war ship.

CAMEROONPRIDE: @Syndergp , please could u give me again the link of military websites? Esp the one with full infos on countries' armies.
Syndergp or andrewza

agaugust:

you were too lazy to open the weblink and read the details of missiles carried by the USS INDEPENDENCE. up to 45 missiles on that warship, not open to be seen outside, internal weapons bay of a real modern stealth warship. its too advanced for you to understand, its far more sophisticated than the south african valour ship you know, the hull design is the first of its kind in the whole world, too much for you.

i also noticed that you have an old fashioned rigid and stone fixed and military idea of looking for weapons on platforms from the outside, sorry sir, you are out-dated already, most new war platforms now have weapons in internal bay or removable and re-fixable depending on need. you have a big problem of not understanding very modern and complex military equipment.

the world of science has created new types of weapons beyond your out-dated old imagination my dear brother.

USS INDEPENDENCE is a multi-role warship that can be configured quickly every hour for different roles with special mission modules carried in the internal bay. the weapons will be changed in a short time for different types of sea combat engagements. it functions as littoral combat ship, corvette, frigate, anti-mine or anti-submarine. that is a multi-role warship that you dont understand because south africa does not have that type and your european NATO countries all have not reached that advanced level of america yet.

i have helped your laziness a bit with this quote from wikipedia and the source weblink below you can confirm.

The concept behind the littoral combat ship, as described by former Secretary of the Navy Gordon R. England, is to "create a small, fast, maneuverable and relatively inexpensive member of the DD(X) family of ships." The ship is easy to reconfigure for different roles, including anti-submarine warfare, mine countermeasures, anti-surface warfare, intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance, homeland defense, maritime intercept, special operations, and logistics. Due to its modular design, the LCS will be able to replace slower, more specialized ships such as minesweepers and larger assault ships.

source weblink http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Littoral_combat_ship

you are still my friend, i am not trying to insult you sir, no. i will not do that. dont be lazy to read weblinks details to avoid you posting wrong comments.

dont be lazy read before you post and stop annoying me...and accept defeat when you are wrong !!

america is is the most advanced weapons producer in the world and we do many wonderful things with our weapons, we create them and we re-configure them anyhow we wish at any time any day depending on what we want to do with that weapon for that moment of the day, dont get stuck with a south african mindset of what can be done to a weapon, america is too far sophisticated for you to understand.

agaugust:

army website : www.armyrecognition.com

just type the website name and add slash the name of the country you want their army information, e.g.

www.armyrecognition.com/cameroon

also, you can google wikipedia of any countries armed forces.

e.g google search cameroonian air foce wikipedia, egyptian navy wikipedia, ugandan army wikipedia.

snydergp:

They are better armed then ur average AK-47 checkpoint thugs u call soldiers.

All those parasites can't even protect your ur small 800km coastline.

CAMEROONPRIDE: @Syndergp , please could u give me again the link of military websites? Esp the one with full infos on countries' armies.
Syndergp or andrewza

bro, most defense jounal dnt have up to date military info about african countries e.g No defense journal has recorded recent acquisition by nigerian army and Nigerian navy! Most of them still have 1990-2005 records. Whereas the number of weapons in stock nw is almost doubling e.g few week ago we just got delivery of this:
@henry
@sheyie2007
@agaugust | we just got delivery of this as of recent!

3 Ocea and 2 SHALDAG 24.6m patrol boats with radar system fully installed!

andrewza: Or go to janes deffense

agaugust: andrewza you are free to stick to what ever you wish to believe. its not my job to add to your knowledge, you dont pay me one dollar for my time, do you ?


you say american weapons are a joke? i wont let you waste my time.

agaugust:

explain to him how to use janes's defence, people complain it has too little information on all the weapons of every country in the world, jane's is not like the detail you find on wikipedia

CAMEROONPRIDE: @Syndergp , please could u give me again the link of military websites? Esp the one with full infos on countries' armies.
Syndergp or andrewza

Capnd143: bro! I have said that there is a reason the army uses Ak-47 which is best known to the chief of army staff lieutenant general ihegirika, we have piles of higher performance weapons bt the army refuse to use it! The SSS OF nigeria use the IMI TAVOR TAR 21 same type used by SWATs and the Isreali defense force! You can google that up! The sss Thunder troopers use NATO furged FN F2000 assault rifles! Same goes with other security forces including navy.airforce etc that uses more advanced assault rifles! bro, most defense jounal dnt have up to date military info about african countries e.g No defense journal has recorded recent acquisition by nigerian army and Nigerian navy! Most of them still have 1990-2005 records. Whereas the number of weapons in stock nw is almost doubling e.g few week ago we just got delivery of this:
@henry
@sheyie2007
@agaugust | we just got delivery of this as of recent!

3 Ocea and 2 SHALDAG 24.6m patrol boats with radar system fully installed!