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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by CraigB: 4:32am On Dec 10, 2013
agaugust:

you are too blind to see that the story in your source is dated November 05, 2012.

‘Isreali contractors sold Nigeria $240m non-functional drones’

on November 05, 2012 / in News 9:50 am /

the israeli drones only had an electrical fault like any machine could have and they have been repaired and working as at now....dummy grin

"An Israeli-manufactured AeroStar UAV prepares for lift-off at the Air Force Institute of Technology, Kaduna.

They might be helping us but what I am SURE about is that I was watching on NTA News when the Air Chief commissioned the Centre for Innovative and Adaptive Technology at the Air Force Institute of Technology and as some point, an NCO came out pushing this UAV as into a takeoff run and it rolled on and took off. It was specifically described as an AEROSTAR UAV and that is Israeli-made. That is why those Israeli gentlemen are in the photo.

NTA NEWS this evening showed the NAF conducting demonstration flights of the Aerostar UAV at Kaduna today. "

beegeagel wordpress. July 05, 2013.

http://beegeagle./2013/07/03/an-israeli-made-aerostar-drone-of-the-nigerian-air-force-photo-credit-federal-ministry-of-information/


An Israeli-manufactured AeroStar UAV prepares for lift-off at the Air Force Institute of Technology, Kaduna.



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Please complete the set of pictures, so that everybody can see that old faces standing behind the drones.

Now, the old farts "bamboozled" the Naai-gerians. cry Get ready for sub-par after sales support.

Everyone plays Naai-geria for a fool. The idîots of the African continent.


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http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/poland-cancels-aerostar-uav-purchase-377210/

Poland cancels Aerostar UAV purchase

Poland's defence ministry has cancelled a contract to purchase Aerostar unmanned air systems from Israeli company Aeronautics, and will also ask for compensation.

Signed in 2010 and covering two systems, the $35 million purchase was made in order to deploy the UAS in Afghanistan, where Polish army units are part of the NATO-led International Security Assistance Force.

Warsaw's deal included the development of an automatic take-off and landing (ATOL) capability, with this to have enabled the unmanned aircraft to approach and land safely in windy conditions and other ground effects encountered in the operational area.

Aeronautics encountered problems with the ATOL capability, which led to it failing to meet the delivery schedule agreed in the contract. The company, which has yet to comment on the Polish decision, has also faced other problems during recent months, with sources saying that a disagreement between its shareholders has delayed some projects.

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by CraigB: 4:40am On Dec 10, 2013
Naai-geria were sold a dud. cry

And they are too stûpid to realise.

http://www.jpost.com/Defense/Report-Turkey-plans-to-return-poor-Israeli-UAVs

Report: Turkey plans to return 'poor' Israeli UAVs

Defense News' quotes Turkish procurement official as saying contract for 3 Aerostar UAVs is "at the stage of cancellation."
Turkey plans to return three Aerostar UAVs to Israel due to "poor performance," the global newsweekly Defense News reported this week.

“The contract is at a stage of cancellation,” the report quoted a procurement official as saying.

The UAV, produced by Israel's Aeronautics Defense Systems based in Yavne, has a range of 200 kilometers and is capable of carrying an 80 kilogram payload.

The report quoted Nizar Amir, the Israeli embassy spokesman in Ankara, as saying “We have not been informed by Turkish authorities” about the Turkish position.

Related:
‘PKK using Israeli drones to attack Turkish troops'
IAF shoots down UAV in northern Negev
Israel is a recognized world leader in the development of UAVs.

Jerusalem's once flourishing military and diplomatic relationship with Ankara crumbled after after Israeli marines stormed the Mavi Marmara ship in May 2010 to enforce a naval blockade of the Gaza Strip and killed nine Turks in clashes with activists on board.

The rift has continued despite US efforts to encourage a rapprochement between the two regional powers whose cooperation it needs to address changes sweeping the Middle East.

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The idîots of the continent: Naai-geria. cry
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 6:47am On Dec 10, 2013
agaugust:

you are always outdated in information, lost soul grin

china sold nigeria a satellite, it broke down many years ago and was immediately replaced with a brand new one for free.

you are lost in time and information, do you live in that south african village where they cook with firewood ?

"On March 24, 2009, the Nigerian Federal Ministry of Science and Technology, NigComSat Ltd. and CGWIC signed a further contract for the in-orbit delivery of the NigComSat-1R satellite. NigComSat-1R is also a DFH-4 satellite with improvements over the previous satellite, and was delivered in the fourth quarter of 2011 as a replacement for the failed NigComSat-1. It was successfully launched on December 19, 2011"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NigComSat-1

http://www.thenationonlineng.net/archive2/tblnews_Detail.php?id=72058

south africa has NO satellite today, nigeria is your master in that area, and the thing dey pain you for body grin


Nothing for Mahala my friend. Your satellite was replaced with a tag of $46 billion worth of insurance payments.

http://octoberfirst.com.au/?p=807

Foreigners knock you left right and centre.

South Africa has three satellites in orbit.

http://www.iweek.co.za/on-the-cover/sa-leads-satellite-game-in-africa

http://www.itweb.co.za/mobilesite/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=69230

http://www.sabc.co.za/news/a/6feb8c00415879a38b87bf93343a19ea/South-Africa-to-launch-third-satellite-into-space-next-month-20130510
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 7:22am On Dec 10, 2013
I hope agaugust does not know we have SUNSAT miniature which we launched in 1999.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SUNSAT
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AwodwaGyanOniwe: 7:28am On Dec 10, 2013
PEOPLE WE NEED A "NEW THREAD FOR THE BIGGEST GATHERING OF WORLD LEADERS IN THE 21 CENTURY". grin grin grin grin

THE BIGGEST GATHERING OF WORLD LEADERS FOR ONE MAN. Baba Mandela's Memorial is BIGGER THAN POPE JOHN PAUL'S II (71 heads of state attended).

[b] More than 100 heads of state and government -- current and past -- as well as scores of celebrities and heads of international organisations have confirmed their presence at a memorial ceremony for former South African president Nelson Mandela, who died last week aged 95.

"By noon today, 91 heads of state and 10 former heads of state confirmed they will attend the memorial at FNB Stadium" on Tuesday, Minister in the Presidency Collins Chabane told the SAPA news agency.

Only Britain's Prince Charles has so far announced his presence at the funeral itself, to be held Sunday in the southern village of Qunu where Mandela spent his childhood.

The following are among those who have confirmed their presence at Tuesday's event:

Leaders

US President Barack Obama and his wife Michelle. Three predecessors, Jimmy Carter, George W. Bush and Bill Clinton, along with Secretary of State and former first lady Hillary Clinton, will also be present.
French President Francois Hollande, accompanied by his predecessor Nicolas Sarkozy.
British Prime Minister David Cameron
Brazilian President Dilma Rousseff
President of the Palestinian Authority Mahmud Abbas
Cuban President Raul Castro
Nigerian President Goodluck Jonathan
Ivory Coast President Alassane Ouattara
Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper
Afghan President Hamid Karzai
Tunisian President Moncef Marzouki
Indian President Pranab Mukherjee
German President Joachim Gauck
Lebanese Prime Minister Najib Mikati
Chinese Vice President Liu Yuanchao
Bangladeshi President Abdul Hamid
Pakistani President Mamnoon Hussain
Sri Lankan President Mahinda Rajapaksa
Liberian President Ellen Johnson Sirleaf

Royals

British Prince Charles
The King of the Netherlands Willem-Alexander
Crown Prince of Denmark Frederik
Crown Prince Haakon of Norway
Saudi Prince and Second Deputy Prime Minister Muqrin bin Abdulaziz Al-Saud
Japanese Crown Prince Naruhito

International organisations

United Nations Secretary General Ban Ki-moon
Chair of the African Union Commission Nkosazana Dlamini Zuma
European Union President Herman van Rompuy
Former UN Secretary General Kofi Annan, former Finnish president Martti Ahtisaari, Algerian diplomat Lakhdar Brahimi and ex-Irish president Mary Robinson will represent the group called The Elders, founded by Mandela in 2007.

Celebrities

US talk show hostess Oprah Winfrey, singer and activist Bono, British singer Peter Gabriel and British magnate Richard Branson are among the stars attending the ceremony.

The absent

The Dalai Lama, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu (THANX GOD HES NOT HERE), father of the Cuban revolution Fidel Castro.
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 7:59am On Dec 10, 2013
agaugust:

15 million south africans have ZERO electricity and have never seen a light bulb since the day they were born grin

http://www.iol.co.za/news/south-africa/2-5-million-households-without-electricity-1.436335

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That link of yours unfortunately is not accessible. I tried to ask google about purported 15 millions South Africans with no electricity, but google does not know anything about it. I tried to figure out in what part of South Africa do they live since the whole of SA is electrified from A-Z. We are producing more electricity than Australia so your suggestion will equally translate that more than 25 million Australians are without electricity.

I thought by claming that you are an MBA graduate you will reason with objectivity, but now it proved to us that you might have perhaps never even attained a high school qualifications. 45000MW alone will tell you that SA is producing a mass power to surely over 49 million people. Just google how many electricity do all the households of SA consume, surely you will find that SA is sitting at no:17 across the world.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AwodwaGyanOniwe: 8:16am On Dec 10, 2013
@Fighter pilot
Agaust is a JOKE LIKE MOST OF HIS KIN. JEALOUS AND BAD HEARTED PEOPLE BY NATURE. Today these bad hearts won't sleep well. Baba Mandela's memorial will be attended by over 100 heads of states. grin grin grin grin grin grin
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 8:26am On Dec 10, 2013
agaugust:

you are too blind to see that the story in your source is dated November 05, 2012.

‘Isreali contractors sold Nigeria $240m non-functional drones’

on November 05, 2012 / in News 9:50 am /

the israeli drones only had an electrical fault like any machine could have and they have been repaired and working as at now....dummy grin

"An Israeli-manufactured AeroStar UAV prepares for lift-off at the Air Force Institute of Technology, Kaduna.

They might be helping us but what I am SURE about is that I was watching on NTA News when the Air Chief commissioned the Centre for Innovative and Adaptive Technology at the Air Force Institute of Technology and as some point, an NCO came out pushing this UAV as into a takeoff run and it rolled on and took off. It was specifically described as an AEROSTAR UAV and that is Israeli-made. That is why those Israeli gentlemen are in the photo.

NTA NEWS this evening showed the NAF conducting demonstration flights of the Aerostar UAV at Kaduna today. "

beegeagel wordpress. July 05, 2013.

http://beegeagle./2013/07/03/an-israeli-made-aerostar-drone-of-the-nigerian-air-force-photo-credit-federal-ministry-of-information/


An Israeli-manufactured AeroStar UAV prepares for lift-off at the Air Force Institute of Technology, Kaduna.



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Chief, just accept that you have been dubbed of your hard cash. Just imagine buying a new set of shoes and only to find that your shoes have a factory fault. You find out that your newly bought shoes have no stiches at all and thereafter the dealer asks you to sew them yourself. That is very hearthobbing indeed.

Your country is being taken for granted by foreigners under the noses of your leaders. You see where the problem come from, trusting westerners over your neighbours. You should have put your order with Denel and with $260 million we could have given you something better, a killer drones which you can arm with missiles and offer technical maintenance for free.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AwodwaGyanOniwe: 8:28am On Dec 10, 2013
[b]2,5millio of SA households still without electricity

ELECTRICITY
Published 14 Nov 2013

Article by: Leandi Kolver



The percentage of South African households with access to electricity had increased by 8.2% between 2002 and 2012, from 77.1% to 88%; however, a large amount of households were still without electricity or could not afford to use adequate electricity to satisfy their needs, Statistics South Africa (Stats SA) said on Thursday.

According to its General Household Survey (GHS), in 2012, 1.45-million of South African households did not have access to electricity, while another 3.6%, or 578 005, households accessed electricity informally or illegally.

Out of the 3.6% without formal access to electricity, 73.1% were connected to an informal source that the household paid for, while 11.7% made use of illegal connections.

“Although significant progress has been made by the national electrification programme to provide electricity to all households, future progress will be hampered by the cost-ineffectiveness of providing mains electricity to remote rural households and the difficulty of providing electricity to predominantly informal dwellings in largely unplanned and unstructured informal areas,” Stats SA said, adding that alternative sources of energy, therefore, had to be considered.

“Emphasis should be placed on off-grid renewable-energy solutions to improve energy access for remote and difficult-to-service poor households,” the organisation noted.

Further, the GHS found that, while rural households remained more likely than urban households to be without electricity, at 19.7% compared with 12.4%, up to 40.4% of households in informal urban areas also did not have access to mains electricity.

In rural areas, 33.5% of households in formal rural areas and 17.3% of households in tribal areas did not have access to mains electricity.

The highest percentage of households connected to the main grid were reported in the Northern Cape and the Free State, with 91.9% and 91.5% of households connected respectively.

Stats SA further said 98.2% of households with access to electricity used it for lighting, while 84.5% did so for cooking.

“This is significant as lighting is estimated to account for only about 5% to 10% of the energy consumed by poor households, while cooking and space heating is estimated to account for 90% or more of the total energy demand,” Stats SA said.

Further, the report found that, nationally, about 50% of households spent less than 5% of their income on electricity, while about 24% spent between 5% and 10%, 16.8% spent between 10% and 20%, and 8.8% of households spent 20% or more.

The percentage of households that spent more than 20% on electricity varied by province, but the lowest was observed in the Eastern Cape, at 5.9%, while the highest percentage was in Gauteng, where 11.4% of households spent more than 20% of their income on electricity.

Meanwhile, when asked how they would hypothetically deal with sudden increases in the price of electricity, one-third, or 36.4%, of households indicated that they would continue using the same amount of electricity, even though they would have to pay more.

Further, with regard to energy-saving measures, only 7% of households nationally were willing to install a solar water heater, 27.1% were willing to switch off their geysers when they were not in use and 33.4% said they would consider not using an electric iron.

However, 85.3% of households were willing to switch off their lights when leaving the house, 74.3% were willing to use stove plates sparingly and 74.2% would consider using energy-saving light bulbs.
Edited by: Tracy Hancock
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by chris365(m): 8:39am On Dec 10, 2013
Fighter Pilot:

Nothing for Mahala my friend. Your satellite was replaced with a tag of $46 billion worth of insurance payments.

http://octoberfirst.com.au/?p=807

Foreigners knock you left right and centre.

South Africa has three satellites in orbit.

http://www.iweek.co.za/on-the-cover/sa-leads-satellite-game-in-africa

http://www.itweb.co.za/mobilesite/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=69230

http://www.sabc.co.za/news/a/6feb8c00415879a38b87bf93343a19ea/South-Africa-to-launch-third-satellite-into-space-next-month-20130510

yea. three space junks you call satelites. and an ice cube with a limited capability to monitor space weather. good for you.
but Nigeria has a bigger ambition.

Efforts to Revive South African SumbandilaSat Abandoned

SumbandilaSat, a South African Earth
observation microsatellite, ceased to function due
to damage it sustained during a solar storm in
June 2010. During the storm, the power supply
to the satellite’s onboard computer failed, and
consequently, the satellite stopped transmitting
images to the ground. The satellite’s developer,
SunSpace, has abandoned efforts to revive the
100 million USD satellite, and has announced it
is moving on to other projects.
Ron Oliver, the head of Business Development at
Sunspace, told defenceWeb that although they
haven’t lost contact with the 81-kg satellite, as
it is now unable to perform observations it is
“not fulfilling its main purpose,” and said that
there was “virtually zero” chance of restoring the
satellite to working condition. Hans Van De
Groenendaal, feature editor at EngineerIT, pointed
to outdated technology and a 3-year wait on the
shelf prior to launch as likely contributors to the
failure.
Although the satellite is no longer operating, De
Groenendaal described the SumbandilaSat
mission as a success, taking over 1200 images
during its brief 2-year lifetime, including pictures
of flooding in Namibia, post-tsunami Japan, and
fire scars in South Africa’s Kruger National Park.
Oliver claims that the satellite had returned
nearly six times the initial investment, in addition
to the numerous social benefits it had provided
in terms of development of South Africa’s
burgeoning space program. The onboard radio
transponder and digitalker are still operational,
and can continue to be used be amateur radio
enthusiasts worldwide.
SumbandilaSat was South Africa’s second
satellite, intended to demonstrate technologies
such as image processing methods and mission
control systems to be used on further South
African satellites. Although it was originally
planned to be launched from a Russian naval
submarine in 2007, it was finally launched in
September 2009, riding along with METEOR M1
and a number of other small satellites atop a
Soyuz 2-1b. Shortly after its launch, two of
SumbandilaSat’s momentum wheels were
damaged by radiation, resulting in a loss of
attitude control. It was again damaged during
the June 2010 solar storm, and stopped
transmitting images to the ground.
http://www.spacesafetymagazine.com/2012/01/31/south-african-sumbandilasat-ceases-function/

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AwodwaGyanOniwe: 8:42am On Dec 10, 2013
cry cry cry cry kiss kiss kiss kiss kiss

[b] Over One Hundred Heads of State Expected to Attend Mandela’s Funeral
By PAW | 2013-12-09 20:36
Featured Stories · South African News
One of the most powerful women in entertainment and business, Oprah Winfrey will attend the Nelson Mandela funeral. – image - people.com


The funeral of former President Nelson Mandela looks set to be the biggest event held in South Africa. More than one hundred heads of state are expected to attend. This is a noticeably higher number than those who attended the funeral of Pope John Paul II in 2005. It has been reported that the royal family in Buckingham Palace will be represented by the heir to the throne, Prince Charles. International celebrities like Oprah Winfrey and Bono have also confirmed their attendance with the South African authorities.

Zimbabwean President Robert Mugabe will be accompanied by his wife Grace. Other African heads of state who intend to represent the millions in their own countries who were touched by the legend of Mandela include the President of Ghana, John Dramani Mahama and Liberian President Ellen Johnson Sirleaf. The Namibian, Mozambican, Congolese and Angolan presidents are also expected to attend Nelson Mandela’s funeral.

However, it appears as if the presidency might have some logistical concerns. According to media reports, Collins Chabane, Minister in the Presidency, said that it may not be advisable for all the heads of state to attend the funeral at the Mandela homestead in Qunu. He offered that no dignitaries “will be prevented from attending” but perhaps it would better if they only attended the official memorial service at the FNB Stadium due to “the size and the scale of the operation and the size of the delegation and the limited infrastructure in the area” of Qunu.

It is not yet clear if the likes of President Barack Obama, former President Bill Clinton and former President George Bush will pay Chabane’s advice any attention. The Prime Minister of Jamaica Portia Simpson Miller, Palestinian State President Mahmoud Abbas and Chinese Vice President are among those who will be attending Madiba’s funeral.

Royal houses from around the world have also sent delegates to pay their respects on behalf of their nations. The Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia His Royal Highness Prince Muqrin bin Abdulaziz Al-Saud and the Norweigan Crown Prince His Royal Highness Prince Muqrin bin Abdulaziz Al-Saud will be in South Africa for the funeral.

For now, all roads lead to FNB Stadium and thousands of people have braved the wet Johannesburg weather to make sure that they make it inside the stadium before the memorial service of the much-loved and appreciated Nelson Mandela begins.[/b]
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by chris365(m): 9:39am On Dec 10, 2013
CraigB: '

You may wish to digress again, because you are talking rubbish as usual.

Naai-geria's news houses are clearly second-rate.
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Mandela's final moments spent with Winnie and Graça
09 DEC 2013 11:24 DAVID SMITH

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Graça Machel and Winnie Madikizela-Mandela were at the bedside of former president Nelson Mandela when he died, says family friend Bantu Holomisa.


Nelson Mandela's final moments were spent off a life support machine with his wife, Graça Machel, and his former wife Winnie Madikizela-Mandela at his bedside, witnesses have said.

The former president died at his home in Houghton, Johannesburg, at 8.50pm on Thursday, sending millions into mourning in South Africa and around the world.

Bantu Holomisa, a politician and close family friend, recalled how less than three hours earlier he found Mandela asleep and struggling to breathe but "still fighting".

Holomisa (58) said he received a call on Thursday afternoon telling him to come urgently. "They said on the phone that Madiba [Mandela's clan name] doesn't look good," he told the Guardian. "I immediately drove straight to his home and went to his bedroom."

The time was 6.35pm and Mandela's condition was clearly at a new low. "I could confirm this wasn't the Madiba we've seen since he went into hospital. He was sleeping with no life support machine. You could hear from his breathing that he was struggling.

"Winnie and Graça were at the bedside of Madiba. You could see the tension. I bowed to acknowledge them then gave myself a moment of silence with Madiba. [I] said thank you to the doctors and then left at 6.50pm for another engagement."

Conditioned mind
At that point Holomisa did not realise he would never see his mentor again. "I was still in a state of denial. He's still fighting, but it was not to be. I was not that shocked when he died because I had just seen him. My mind was conditioned from the time I received the call."

The national outpouring of song and dance in honour of Mandela's life moved Holomisa, who remained close to him despite being expelled from the ANC and setting up the rival United Democratic Movement.

"It [Mandela's passing] reminds me of the day Mandela was released or, after his election, the day we inaugurated him as president. The mood is one of celebration and he would appreciate it as typical of him," said Holomisa.

Dali Tambo, son of Mandela's friend and ally Oliver Tambo, was woken by his son with the news at around midnight on Thursday. He then went to Mandela's home to find Machel, Madikizela-Mandela and other family members, relatives of the late Walter Sisulu, as well as President Jacob Zuma and several government ministers.

"There was a prayer and a hymn," he said. "The leadership consulted with the family about arrangements. The body was brought down and taken to a morgue. It was very sad, very sombre. It's always a hard experience for the family when the deceased leaves. I remember with my father, we had an argument about wanting him to stay longer. It's like a full stop."

Members of the public were gathering outside the high walls of the home in a tree-lined suburb, lighting candles and singing liberation-era songs. Tambo added: "You could hear the crowd. It was beautiful and spontaneous. They were [the] first who'd heard the news and had rushed there. They were emotional. My last words to a group of ANC people who asked me to toyi-toyi with them were, 'I'm going to bed'."

Casket
Sunday Times reported that Mandela's daughter Makaziwe and grandson Mandla were also at his deathbed. Grandson Mandla Mandela had been urgently summoned from Mvezo in Eastern Cape province early on Thursday morning. Nelson Mandela's daughters from his marriage to Madikizela-Mandela, Zindzi and Zenani, were both in London for the royal premiere of Mandela: Long Walk to Freedom and left the screening for the first flight home.

The military arrived with a casket to collect Mandela's body at about midnight so it could be taken to a military hospital in the capital, Pretoria, where it will lie in state this week. As the casket left draped in the South African national flag, Mandla Mandela sang his grandfather's praises with the words, "Aah Dalibunga" and was joined by family members and political leaders, the paper reported.

According to the City Press, it was Tuesday night when Zuma learned of Mandela's deteriorating condition and that his death was imminent. "On Wednesday, word came from his house in Houghton that his already critical condition had worsened," the paper said. "He was fading fast. Mandela had not spoken a single word for months.

"On Thursday night, he was entering the final moments of his life. His former wife, Winnie Madikizela-Mandela, was there and preparing to stay overnight. Those in the house speak of an overwhelming sadness that engulfed it. Family members were allowed into his room in pairs or in threes and allowed private moments with him."

The paper cited different sources making different claims about the cause of death including fluid on the lungs, a serious infection that was antibiotic resistant, and blood pressure that dropped too low. On Sunday the presidential spokesperson Mac Maharaj did not respond to requests for comment. – © Guardian News and Media 2013

irrelevant long stories as usual. dumb maggot.

your hero was nothing but a western puppet who served western agendas and winnie rightly agrees.

Winnie Mandela have this to say on her late Ex-Husband!!
"He agreed to a bad deal for the blacks. Economically, we
are still on the outside. The economy is very much
'white' , It has a few token blacks, but so many who gave
their life in the struggle have died unrewarded."
Whilst Mandela was serving his long terms in jail, Winnie
was busy getting arrested, tortured, by the Apartheid
Government due to her non-stop agitation!!!
She also mentioned that she couldn't forgive him for
accepting a Nobel Peace Prize from the people who put
him in jail in the first place!!!
https://m./149735971850787?view=permalink&id=257405364417180&refid=18&_ft_

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by chris365(m): 9:54am On Dec 10, 2013
AwodwaGyanOniwe: @Chris365
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YOUR HATE FOR SOUTH AFRICA IS WELL KNOWN BY NOW WE KNOW YOUR HEART MUST BE " BLEEDING THAT OVER 100 WORLD LEADERS ARE HERE". Bleed to death you keep coming with STUPID STORIES.
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[b]Over One Hundred Heads of State Expected to Attend Mandela’s Funeral
By PAW | 2013-12-09 20:36
Featured Stories · South African News
One of the most powerful women in entertainment and business, Oprah Winfrey will attend the Nelson Mandela funeral. – image - people.com


The funeral of former President Nelson Mandela looks set to be the biggest event held in South Africa. More than one hundred heads of state are expected to attend. This is a noticeably higher number than those who attended the funeral of Pope John Paul II in 2005. It has been reported that the royal family in Buckingham Palace will be represented by the heir to the throne, Prince Charles. International celebrities like Oprah Winfrey and Bono have also confirmed their attendance with the South African authorities.

Zimbabwean President Robert Mugabe will be accompanied by his wife Grace. Other African heads of state who intend to represent the millions in their own countries who were touched by the legend of Mandela include the President of Ghana, John Dramani Mahama and Liberian President Ellen Johnson Sirleaf. The Namibian, Mozambican, Congolese and Angolan presidents are also expected to attend Nelson Mandela’s funeral.

However, it appears as if the presidency might have some logistical concerns. According to media reports, Collins Chabane, Minister in the Presidency, said that it may not be advisable for all the heads of state to attend the funeral at the Mandela homestead in Qunu. He offered that no dignitaries “will be prevented from attending” but perhaps it would better if they only attended the official memorial service at the FNB Stadium due to “the size and the scale of the operation and the size of the delegation and the limited infrastructure in the area” of Qunu.

It is not yet clear if the likes of President Barack Obama, former President Bill Clinton and former President George Bush will pay Chabane’s advice any attention. The Prime Minister of Jamaica Portia Simpson Miller, Palestinian State President Mahmoud Abbas and Chinese Vice President are among those who will be attending Madiba’s funeral.

Royal houses from around the world have also sent delegates to pay their respects on behalf of their nations. The Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia His Royal Highness Prince Muqrin bin Abdulaziz Al-Saud and the Norweigan Crown Prince His Royal Highness Prince Muqrin bin Abdulaziz Al-Saud will be in South Africa for the funeral.

For now, all roads lead to FNB Stadium and thousands of people have braved the wet Johannesburg weather to make sure that they make it inside the stadium before the memorial service of the much-loved and appreciated Nelson Mandela begins.[/b]

hate? I'm just stating the facts you this ghanian baboon.

lemme make it simple for you... In this modern day media, "the western media sells it and the world buys it." agenda served. finito
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AwodwaGyanOniwe: 9:56am On Dec 10, 2013
^^^^^^Chris365
Hope u can see where u stand. JEALOUS HATER
grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 10:08am On Dec 10, 2013
Two French soldiers killed in CAR:

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-25313817

Johannesburg is raining like hell and we are beefing up security down here.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AwodwaGyanOniwe: 10:11am On Dec 10, 2013
@Fighter Pilot
IM SORRY I HAD TO POST THAT SO THAT THEY GAUGE THEIR "HATE FOR SOUTH AFRICA AND HER PEOPLE". grin grin grin grin grin
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by kwametut: 10:58am On Dec 10, 2013
THE WORLD IS SAYING FAREWELL TO MANDELA. LETS PAINT A PICTURE FOR "MANDELA HATERS VS THE WORLD". grin grin grin grin grin So that they can see where they stand. THEY ARE JUST A "DROP IN A OCEAN" DESPITE THEIR BIG MOUTHS AND JEALOUSY/HATE.

WORLD POPULATION=6,7 Billion 2013

Asia "MOST REGARD MANDELA AS A HERO".
Total 4.13 billion
2.1 billion 50.85% Mongoloids MANY REGARD MANDELA=HERO
1 billion 24.21% Caucasoids MANY REGARD MANDELA=HERO
800 million 19.37% Australoid-Caucasoid MANY REGARD MANDELA=HERO
intermediates (parts of South Asia) MANY REGARD MANDELA=HERO
100 million 2.42% Mongoloid-Caucasoid MANY REGARD MANDELA=HERO
intermediates (Central Asia)
75 million 1.82% Asiatic Triracials (parts of South MANY REGARD MANDELA=HERO
Asia)
50 million 1.21% Australoid-Mongoloid MANY REGARD MANDELA=HERO
intermediates (parts of Southeast Asia)
5 million 0.12% Negro**id-Caucasoid MANY REGARD MANDELA=HERO
intermediates
(parts of the Middle East)

Africa
Total 1 billion
725 million 72.50% Negro**ids (600million Bantu speakers MANY REGARD MANDELA=HERO and 120 Million Kwa speakers/Jealousy is made here, only Ghanaians regard Mandela here).
157 million 15.70% Caucasoids (North Africans &
Europids) MANY REGARD MANDELA=HERO
150 million 10.00% Negro**id-Asiatics & Aethiopids(Fulani,Hausa,Ethiopians,Nilotes etc..In this group only Ethiopians and Nilotes REGARD MANDELA=HERO)
15 million 1.50% Negro**id-Mongoloid MANY REGARD MANDELA=HERO
intermediates (Malagasy)
1 million 0.10% Khoisan and Pygmy MANY REGARD MANDELA=HERO
1 million 0.10% Mongoloids MANY REGARD MANDELA=HERO
1 million 0.10% Australoid-Caucasoid
intermediates MANY REGARD MANDELA=HERO

Oceania
Total 39.1 million
21 million 53.71% Caucasoids
12.5 million 31.97% Australoids MANY REGARD MANDELA=HERO
2 million 5.12% Mongoloids MANY REGARD MANDELA=HERO
3 million 7.67% Australoid-Mongoloid MANY REGARD MANDELA=HERO
intermediates (Polynesians) MANY REGARD MANDELA=HERO
0.5 million 1.28% Australoid-Caucasoid MANY REGARD MANDELA=HERO
intermediates (Mixed aboriginals & South Asians) MANY REGARD MANDELA=HERO
0.1 million 0.26% Negro**ids MANY REGARD MANDELA=HERO

Europe (w/o Russia)
Total 700 million
687 million 98.14% Caucasoids
5 million 0.71% Negr*oids MANY REGARD MANDELA=HERO
5 million 0.71% Mongoloids MANY REGARD MANDELA=HERO
1 million 0.14% Negr*oid-Caucasoid intermediates MANY REGARD MANDELA=HERO
1 million 0.14% Mongoloid-Caucasoid
intermediates
1 million 0.14% Australoid-Caucasoid MANY REGARD MANDELA=HERO
intermediates

North & Central America
Total 530 million
270 million 50.94% Caucasoids
110 million 20.75% Amerindian-Caucasoid MANY REGARD MANDELA=HERO
intermediates (Mestizos)
55 million 10.38% Negro**ids MANY REGARD MANDELA=HERO
40 million 7.55% Amerindians MANY REGARD MANDELA=HERO
20 million 3.77% Negro**id-Caucasoid MANY REGARD MANDELA=HERO
intermediates (Mulattoes) MANY REGARD MANDELA=HERO
14 million 2.64% Mongoloids MANY REGARD MANDELA=HERO
10 million 1.89% Triracials
5 million 0.94% Mongoloid-Caucasoid MANY REGARD MANDELA=HERO
intermediates (Eurasians)
3 million 0.57% Australoid-Caucasoid MANY REGARD MANDELA=HERO
intermediates
2.5 million 0.47% Negro**id-Amerindian MANY REGARD MANDELA=HERO
intermediates (Zambos) MANY REGARD MANDELA=HERO
0.5 million 0.09% Australoid-Mongoloid
intermediates (Pacific islanders)

South America
Total 386.5 million
162 million 41.91% Caucasoids MANY REGARD MANDELA=HERO
70 million 18.11% Negro**id-Caucasoid MANY REGARD MANDELA=HERO
intermediates
70 million18.11% Amerindian-Caucasoid MANY REGARD MANDELA=HERO
intermediates
40 million 10.35% Triracials MANY REGARD MANDELA=HERO
25 million 6.47% Negr**oids MANY REGARD MANDELA=HERO
15 million 3.88% Amerindians MANY REGARD MANDELA=HERO
3 million 0.78% Mongoloids MANY REGARD MANDELA=HERO
1 million 0.26% Negr**oid-Amerindian
intermediates
0.5 million 0.13% Australoid-Caucasoid MANY REGARD MANDELA=HERO
intermediates

World
Total 6,785,600,000
2,297,000,000 33.85% Caucasoids
2,125,000,000 31.32% Mongoloids
810,100,000 11.94% Negr**oids
806,000,000 11.88% Australoid-Caucasoid
intermediates
196,000,000 2.89% Negr**oid-Caucasoid
intermediates
180,000,000 2.65% Amerindian-Caucasoid
intermediates
106,000,000 1.56% Mongoloid-Caucasoid
intermediates
75,000,000 1.11% Asiatic Triracials
55,000,000 0.81% Amerindians
53,500,000 0.79% Australoid-Mongoloid
intermediates
50,000,000 0.74% Triracials
15,000,000 0.22% Negro**id-Mongoloid
intermediates
12,500,000 0.18% Australoids
3,500,000 0.05% Negro**id-Amerindian
intermediates
1,000,000 0.01% Khoisan and Pygmy
Monoracial vs Mixed:
5,300,600,000 78.12% Monoracial
1,485,000,000 21.88% Mixed
Intermediate groups:
806,000,000 Australoid-Caucasoid intermediates
196,000,000 Negroi**d-Caucasoid intermediates
180,000,000 Amerindian-Caucasoid
intermediates
106,000,000 Mongoloid-Caucasoid intermediates
75,000,000 Asiatic Triracials
53,500,000 Australoid-Mongoloid intermediates
50,000,000 Triracials
15,000,000 Negr**d-Mongoloid intermediates
3,500,000 Negr**d-Amerindian intermediates
Total: 1,485,000,000[/b]
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by NaijaPikinGidi: 12:22pm On Dec 10, 2013
kwame tut: Over 100 heads of states attending Nelson Mandela Memorial and 10 former heads of state. POPE JOHN PAUL'S RECORD BEATEN ALREADY. Here a rough list excluding kings and queens, celebrities.


You can't ever express enough of your idiocy! What is your point? That Mr. Mandela is the holiest dead man ever?

Nelson Mandela must be so loved ... you didn't need to copy and paste this already well circulated list. A useful question to help you understand yourself is: Will KwameTUT be worth remembering for anything useful on his own day of reckoning? Don't be quick to answer! Think!

Rest in Peace Mr. Mandela.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:10pm On Dec 10, 2013
Fighter Pilot:

Chief, just accept that you have been dubbed of your hard cash. Just imagine buying a new set of shoes and only to find that your shoes have a factory fault. You find out that your newly bought shoes have no stiches at all and thereafter the dealer asks you to sew them yourself. That is very hearthobbing indeed.

Your country is being taken for granted by foreigners under the noses of your leaders. You see where the problem come from, trusting westerners over your neighbours. You should have put your order with Denel and with $260 million we could have given you something better, a killer drones which you can arm with missiles and offer technical maintenance for free.

south africa does NOT have any weapon armed drone in service as at today. just planning to develop an equipment does NOT mean it is already in your military armoury....you brain thinks like a 6 year old kid grin

nigeria does NOT need to buy DENEL drones or more Israeli drones, Amebo drone III is fully made in nigeria by our air force we dont even need to pay for it because NAF manufactured it by its own air force officers who are enginneers.

now ride your village donkey to mandela's funeral grin

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:12pm On Dec 10, 2013
Fighter Pilot: Two French soldiers killed in CAR:

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-25313817

if its were south african army, they would have run away to the airport, sprinting olympic style like usain bolt grin
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:17pm On Dec 10, 2013
Fighter Pilot:

South Africa has three satellites in orbit.

http://www.iweek.co.za/on-the-cover/sa-leads-satellite-game-in-africa

http://www.itweb.co.za/mobilesite/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=69230

http://www.sabc.co.za/news/a/6feb8c00415879a38b87bf93343a19ea/South-Africa-to-launch-third-satellite-into-space-next-month-20130510


south africa has NO satellite except one cube of sugar your university students launched last month to experiment with very low level weather forecasting for campus students.

south africa has NO real satellite, we proved it beyond doubt on this thread many times. dont take this thread backwards with your fake weblinks of expired junk old satellites that died long before mandela grin



south african satellite crashed long ago, your military is blind like a bat , they cannot see the enemy from a distance grin

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:30pm On Dec 10, 2013
Fighter Pilot:

Chief, just accept that you have been dubbed of your hard cash. Just imagine buying a new set of shoes and only to find that your shoes have a factory fault. You find out that your newly bought shoes have no stiches at all and thereafter the dealer asks you to sew them yourself. That is very hearthobbing indeed.

Your country is being taken for granted by foreigners under the noses of your leaders. You see where the problem come from, trusting westerners over your neighbours. You should have put your order with Denel and with $260 million we could have given you something better, a killer drones which you can arm with missiles and offer technical maintenance for free.

fact remains that nigeria has 12 drones/UAV flying and working.

any equipment can develop electrical faults and be repaired. nigerian drones having fault is nothing new.

now if you live in a glass house, dont throw stones my boy.....



[size=16pt]all south africa's 3 units $800 million submarines went out of operation...technical faults

all 3 submarines were purchased on credit, so debt still hanging, not yet paid.

bribery and corruption involved in the submarine purchase

quality of submarines is sub-standard[/size]



News Bobby Jordan | 12 August, 2012.

"Not one of the R8 billion arms deal submarines is operational as at the time of writing this report.

South Africa's fleet of attack submarines, which cost an estimated R8-billion in the infamous arms deal, are all in dry dock after the only operational vessel crashed into the seabed.

President Jacob Zuma established a commission of inquiry into the arms deal in September last year to probe allegations of fraud, corruption and impropriety.

Arms deal activist Terry Crawford-Browne said the incident was further proof of the folly of the arms deal. "South Africa has not yet paid for these submarines. They are being financed by Commerzbank until 2016, these loans being underwritten by Hermes and German taxpayers," he said.


"This is another example of what happens in arms deals all the time, but it seems to be happening more than most in our deals. We were sold equipment that seems to be of dubious quality, we were sold it at inflated prices because of the bribes that were paid, and the performance of this equipment across the board has been, to put it politely, very poor," said Feinstein. "

http://www.timeslive.co.za/local/2012/08/12/not-one-of-the-r8-billion-arms-deal-submarines-is-operational

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by NaijaPikinGidi: 1:43pm On Dec 10, 2013
South Africans will never realize the sacrifices of African leaders and their people to liberate them from the strangle grip of their white minority oppressors. The efforts of such leaders culminated in freedom of South Africa's black majority and giving crucial moral, financial and vocal support and credibility to the ANC leadership of Mr. Mandela. Africa's collective refusal of Aparthied was the strength behind the survival of beloved Mr. Mandela. A man is not usually born great ... he is made great by the circumstances, challenges, people and structures that enable him succeed! Mandela will always be great ... thanks to the unsung people who lifted him above his circumstances and challenges.

See below a letter from Nigeria's former Head of State during the height of South Africa's struggle to Britains Prime Minister Mrs Thatcher.

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http://ipan.co.za/wp/?p=2638
http://ipan.co.za/posts/Obasanjo%20-%20Thatcher.pdf



August 1986



Dear Margaret,

After our meeting on Sunday, I write as one committed democrat to another. Yours is an old country with a lengthy democratic tradition; mine a new country undergoing a press of nation-building. But as democrats, we can be frank with each other.

As you know, I came to the EPG (Eminent Persons’ Group) mission with reluctance. It was difficult enough for me as an African and especially as a Nigerian to contemplate exchanging pleasantries with those responsible for the institutionalised oppression of so many of my brothers and sisters.

My repugnance was exacerbated by the widely held perception that the EPG was a substitute for action won by you at Nassau for the benefit of P.W. Botha. However, I persuaded myself that whatever the odds, the prize was so great that I should overcome my personal feelings.
Not that I was prepared for what we found. As you know, even Tony Barber – a frequent traveller to South Africa – was appalled by what he was to see in that other South Africa which visitors seldom see. We jointly expressed our shock and dismay in our report.

I have seen extremes of poverty and of oppression in many parts of the world. But South Africa unashamedly moulds both elements into a system which enables the white minority to enjoy a “Dallas” lifestyle at the expense of the great majority forced to endure conditions as degrading as anything I have seen anywhere.

In our discussions, Malcom Fraser and I tried to convey the true nature of the system and were against cosmetic changes which have merely softened the face of apartheid.

However, such was our discussion that I must ask: Did you even read our report?

I infer from what you said that afternoon that you had not. You concentrated on the trivia of the Government’s “reforms” – like the welcome but essentially insignificant repeal of the Mixed Marriages Act – and ignored their implacable opposition to changes in the basic pillars of apartheid.

As we emphasised, to begin to dismantle apartheid, the Population Registration Act and the Group Areas Act must be repealed without being replaced by some measure designed to achieve the same ends under a different guise.

You gave credence to the dangerous notion that the political rights of the dispossessed can be adequately met by what President Botha calls “group rights” at the expense of individual rights and freedoms. Despite all the talk of “power sharing” between different communities, our inescapable conclusion was that this was a cloak for power remaining in white hands, and the essentials of apartheid continuing unchanged.
Nor have you any appreciation of the issue of violence. The apartheid system has an inherent violence which, through forced removals and the creation of barren homelands, has created the fiction of a white land and through the barrel of the gun, denies blacks any form of legitimate political expression.

We are all opposed to violence other than in self-defence. Why should blacks not have a right to defend their own families, homes and freedoms?

Your “moral revulsion” for sanctions struck me as unconvincing. The economic sanctions you so energetically pursued against Poland, Afghanistan and Argentina were brushed aside in your determination to withhold their application to South Africa. Yet to many of us there is only one significant difference: the victims in South Africa are black. Is sauce for the Aryan goose not sauce for the Negroid gander?
Your concentration of the economic effectiveness of sanctions is disingenuous if not hypocritical. Sanctions were imposed against Poland, Afghanistan and Argentina as political expressions of outrage.

Nor can your opposition be based on any assessment of where the best interests of Britain lie. Your country has considerable trade with South Africa, but this is dwarfed by that enjoyed with the rest of Africa: it cannot be in Britain’s interests to encourage them to place their orders elsewhere.

Further, your appearance as an apologist challenges the democratic forces in South Africa to seek help from whatever quarter they can. The longer-term consequences for Britain, the United States and the West could be considerable.

But most of all, I was dismayed by your lack of vision. You offered no action as an alternative to sanctions. You insisted that nothing whatever be done – even though in the final analysis you moved a little. There is no vision of a way ahead; simply a forlorn hope that P.W. Botha would experience a “Road to Damascus” conversion on the road to Soweto. Such hopes are in vain.

Sooner or later, Botha or his successor will be driven to negotiate meaningfully. Sir Geofferey’s visit again confirmed that Botha is not yet under sufficient pressure to do so – despite a dwindling rand, escalating inflation, a declining economy and mounting violence. More pressure must come.

I must tell you that many people around the world view your continued opposition to sanctions as founded on instinct, not logic and as displaying a misguided tribal loyalty and myopic political vision. The consequences of such perceptions are far-reaching for a country which has traditionally claimed the high ground of principle.

Not only does the mental laager of the Boer seem to be mirrored in your own attitudes, but his fatal concessions of too little, too late are paralleled by your actions.

I am glad that the Commonwealth has moved on without you and I know that sooner rather than later, Britain will have to join us. I also know that apartheid will end, and its demise will be the product of a combination of internal and external pressures. The equation is a simple one. The less the external pressure, the greater will be the price to be paid internally.

Those who seek to minimise sanctions and their effect will have the blood of thousands, if not millions, of innocents on their hands and on their consciences. My heart will be heavy but my hands will be clean. Will yours?

(General Olusegun Obasanjo was Head of the Federal Military Government of Nigeria 1976 – 79 when he handed over power to an elected civilian government. He is also a member of the Commonwealth Eminent Persons’ Group)

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 1:47pm On Dec 10, 2013
Two French soldiers killed overnight in CAR.

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-25313817
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:48pm On Dec 10, 2013
Msauza: Two French soldiers killed overnight in CAR.

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-25313817

....but the french army is still controlling its own area. south african army ran away for ever, soweto cowards grin
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by NaijaPikinGidi: 1:50pm On Dec 10, 2013
kwame tut: @NaijaPikidi
DUMB ASS JEALOUS HATEFUL Nigerian. By now you should know I never took your posts seriously. grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
HERE A BITTER PILL TO SWALLOW FOR U AND OTHER HATEFUL Nigerians. grin grin grin

THE WORLD IS SAYING FAREWELL TO MANDELA. LETS PAINT A PICTURE FOR "MANDELA HATERS VS THE WORLD". grin grin grin grin grin So that they can see where they stand. THEY ARE JUST A "DROP IN A OCEAN" DESPITE THEIR BIG MOUTHS AND JEALOUSY/HATE.


More of your idle and senseless ranting! Just indulge yourself some more!! grin grin grin

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