NaijaPikinGidi: Unmistakable and unforgettable photo of Mr. Nelson Mandela who was flown from South Africa to Nigeria in a jet from the Presidential fleet. A grateful Mr. Mandela salutes the Nigerian nation as he exists the plane to a warm Nigerian welcome at the Airport. Forever, history will be a witness to his immense greatness earned not by birth but by the African efforts of solidarity, compassion, and generosity spearheaded by Nigeria and like minded pan African forces.



Rest in Peace son of mama Africa.

[size=16pt]thank you for saving south africa and me too...mandela salutes great nigeria ! [/size]


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agaugust:


your very own country's south african weapons and defence experts have complaints, [s]that the worst imaginable.....swallow it fast and choke

read now you fool of a debtor nation buying submarines that have a half dead battery on credit with bank loans


"The SAS Manthatisi, the first of the country's submarines acquired in the multibillion-rand arms deal, has been in the dry dock since 2007 after a series of mishaps, including crashing into a quay and damaging her steering mechanism.

Then a power cable was incorrectly plugged into her shore power-supply system, causing damage. The vessel's propulsion batteries, which cost R35-million, are being replaced.

Arms deal activist Terry Crawford-Browne said the incident was further proof of the folly of the arms deal. "South Africa has not yet paid for these submarines. They are being financed by Commerzbank until 2016, these loans being underwritten by Hermes and German taxpayers," he said.

This is another example of what happens in arms deals all the time, but it seems to be happening more than most in our deals. We were sold equipment that seems to be of dubious quality, we were sold it at inflated prices because of the bribes that were paid, and the performance of this equipment across the board has been, to put it politely, very poor," said Feinstein"

http://www.timeslive.co.za/local/2012/08/12/not-one-of-the-r8-billion-arms-deal-submarines-is-operational[/s]

Don't give us long stories about where aunty Mavis may have walked the dog last night. Show us clear proof:

Where and when has anyone complained about the QUALITY of the products as produced by the source? Who has ever returned the prototype to source, citing poor quality and performance?

It's a simple question.

Answer the simple question.

Don't go to town.

I show you how to answer the question below.

CraigB: Facts. Not stories:

The "quality" of the drones sold to Naai-geria:


"Earlier this month, Hurriyet reported that the Turkish military plans to return three tactical Aerostar UAVs to Israel, citing the drones’ poor performance against the Kurdistan Workers Party."


http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Egyptians-to-purchase-Turkish-made-drones


The Naai-gerians have been played for the foôls that they are. They bragged to us about useless drones.

CraigB:

Don't give us long stories about where aunty Mavis may have walked the dog last night. Show us clear proof:

Where and when has anyone complained about the QUALITY of the products as produced by the source? Who has ever returned the prototype to source, citing poor quality and performance?

It's a simple question.

Answer the simple question.

Don't go to town.

I show you how to answer the question below.

south africa did NOT return the faulty submarines because your corrupt politicians and cash greedy navy admirals had been paid bribes to shut up and accept them faulty like that, fact

"He said submarine manufacturer Ferrostaal was under fire for corrupt dealings with Greece and Portugal, whose own arms deals contributed to the current European fiscal crisis: "This [South Africa's submarine deal] is a déjà-vu situation with Portugal and Greece.

This is another example of what happens in arms deals all the time, but it seems to be happening more than most in our deals. We were sold equipment that seems to be of dubious quality, we were sold it at inflated prices because of the bribes that were paid"


http://www.timeslive.co.za/local/2012/08/12/not-one-of-the-r8-billion-arms-deal-submarines-is-operational


swallow the bitter pills of truth....fool

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agaugust:

south africa did NOT return the faulty submarines because your corrupt politicians and cash greedy navy admirals had been paid bribes to shut up and [s]accept them faulty like that, fact

"He said submarine manufacturer Ferrostaal was under fire for corrupt dealings with Greece and Portugal, whose own arms deals contributed to the current European fiscal crisis: "This [South Africa's submarine deal] is a déjà-vu situation with Portugal and Greece.

This is another example of what happens in arms deals all the time, but it seems to be happening more than most in our deals. We were sold equipment that seems to be of dubious quality, we were sold it at inflated prices because of the bribes that were paid"


http://www.timeslive.co.za/local/2012/08/12/not-one-of-the-r8-billion-arms-deal-submarines-is-operational


swallow the bitter pills of truth....fool [/s]

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More stories about aunty Mavis's dog.

Tell us who and when has anyone EVER complained about the QUALITY of the submarines as produced by the source.

Don't give us an IRRELEVANT link and a mountain of hot air.

Simple.

Answer the question.

Less yada-yada. More proof.

CraigB:

More stories about aunty Mavis's dog.

Tell us who and when has anyone EVER complained about the QUALITY of the submarines as produced by the source.

Don't give us an IRRELEVANT link.

Simple.

Answer the question.

i posted that complaint source 3 times 6 hours ago, if you pretend you did not see it, then pretend to your girlfriend that you have no d...i...c...k

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agaugust:

i posted that complaint source 3 times 6 hours ago, if you pretend you did not see it, then pretend to your girlfriend that you have no d...i...c...k

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You did not. You posted a link about South Africans crashing the submarines and doing other things to them.

Irrelevant rubbish.

Answer the question: Who has EVER complained about the QUALITY of our submarines? Where is the proof?

Get on with it. Your petticoat is showing. Move along now. Proof.

Lest we forget where we started:

‘Isreali contractors sold Nigeria $240m non-functional drones’

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2012/11/isreali-contractors-sold-nigeria-240m-non-functional-drones/

SANDF supporting Mandela commemoration, burial


The SA National Defence Force (SANDF) shifted into top gear only hours after Nelson Mandela died at his Houghton, Johannesburg, home last Thursday.

First into action was the SA Military Health Service (SAMHS), which had been responsible for the former president’s health care since he was admitted to a Pretoria hospital in June this year with a recurrent lung infection.

A SAMHS detail collected his body and moved it by road convoy to 1 Military Hospital in Thaba Tshwane in the first SANDF involvement in arrangements for the various functions before the final interment of South Africa’s first democratically elected President at Qunu in the Eastern Cape on Sunday.

The involvement of the South African military in all events around Mandela’s death has been meticulously planned under the code name Operation Imbeko. When it became reality it was changed to Operation Uxolo. As South Africans came to grips with the fact that the 95-year-old former freedom fighter was no longer part of the national landscape, SANDF Chief General Solly Shoke cancelled a medal parade set for Friday and ordered all soldiers on leave to return to their bases and units immediately...

The sounds of crying out for help...

What happened to: "we have it under control?"

Africa rapid reaction force could tackle Boko Haram: Nigeria

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5iXKh2ZAyoCHCoy1bARNTwgYumNGg?docId=ba013879-0c1d-491a-8a31-b9b5c0a5dfd5

(AFP) – 1 day ago
Lagos — Nigeria's president said he has given his backing to the creation of an African rapid reaction force, adding that it could help tackle the Boko Haram insurgency, in comments published Monday.
"We fully support this rapid reaction force," Goodluck Jonathan told French radio station RFI in an interview on the sidelines of the recent France-Africa summit in Paris.
Jonathan's French counterpart Francois Hollande called for an African force to be set up, and said France was prepared to train 20,000 soldiers a year if the project goes ahead.
Hollande said France was offering to provide equipment, logistical support and advice on coordination for the force, and was seeking wider European Union funding for it to be operational by 2015.
Jonathan said he envisaged that the force could be deployed to hotspots across the continent, including in northern Nigeria, which has been in the grip of Islamist-linked violence since 2009.
Sustained attacks blamed on Boko Haram prompted the government in Abuja to impose a state of emergency in three northern states -- Borno, Yobe and Adamawa -- to try to stop the bloodshed.
The military has claimed that the banned militant group has been pushed into more remote, rural areas, yet violence has continued.
Last week, Boko Haram launched a daring raid on military targets in Maiduguri, the capital of Borno state, leading to a city-wide curfew.
Jonathan said the state of emergency, which was extended for another six months in November, had been effective, particularly in Adamawa state.
But he said the Maiduguri attack demonstrated that Boko Haram should not be underestimated -- and raised the possibility that the group was getting outside support, particularly in the supply of weapons.
Jonathan meanwhile dismissed repeated claims from human rights groups about abuses against Boko Haram suspects held at military detention facilities in the north.
He said those claims had been exaggerated but he had nevertheless sanctioned the release of one billion naira ($6.2 million, 4.5 million euros) to improve conditions.
Arrested Boko Haram militants were held in "satisfactory" conditions, he added, reiterating that the government was open to dialogue with the militant group.

CraigB:

You did not. You posted a link about South Africans crashing the submarines and doing other things to them.

Irrelevant rubbish.

Answer the question: Who has EVER complained about the QUALITY of our submarines? Where is the proof?

Get on with it. Your petticoat is showing. Move along now. Proof.

go back and read that link, your submarines are prone to electrical faults as one broke down electrically without hitting any object.

i wont waste my time on what i posted 3 times in 6 hours ago.

next south african on the line please.....make your post and lets see how dull you are too

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agaugust:

[s]go back and read that link, your submarines are prone to electrical faults as one broke down electrically without hitting any object.

i wont waste my time on what i posted 3 times in 6 hours ago.

next south african on the line please.....make your post and lets see how dull you are too [/s]

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I don't go back. I read proof. Not irrelevant rubbish about Aunty Mavis's cat.

Give me proof and be happy. End of story.

In the meantime, tell us about your president who's crying out for help from Africa.

agaugust:


your very own country's south african weapons and defence experts have complaints, that the worst imaginable.....swallow it fast and choke

read now you fool of a debtor nation buying submarines that have a half dead battery on credit with bank loans


"The SAS Manthatisi, the first of the country's submarines acquired in the multibillion-rand arms deal, has been in the dry dock since 2007 after a series of mishaps, including crashing into a quay and damaging her steering mechanism.

Then a power cable was incorrectly plugged into her shore power-supply system, causing damage. The vessel's propulsion batteries, which cost R35-million, are being replaced.

Arms deal activist Terry Crawford-Browne said the incident was further proof of the folly of the arms deal. "South Africa has not yet paid for these submarines. They are being financed by Commerzbank until 2016, these loans being underwritten by Hermes and German taxpayers," he said.


"This is another example of what happens in arms deals all the time, but it seems to be happening more than most in our deals. We were sold equipment that seems to be of dubious quality, we were sold it at inflated prices because of the bribes that were paid, and the performance of this equipment has been very poor," said Feinstein"

soweto fools, scammed of their hard borrowed cash by white men from europe again

http://www.timeslive.co.za/local/2012/08/12/not-one-of-the-r8-billion-arms-deal-submarines-is-operational

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The only foolish country to be conned in such a manner. And their leaders agree. Smh

CraigB:

Don't give us long stories about where aunty Mavis may have walked the dog last night. Show us clear proof:

Where and when has anyone complained about the QUALITY of the products as produced by the source? Who has ever returned the prototype to source, citing poor quality and performance?

It's a simple question.

Answer the simple question.

Don't go to town.

I show you how to answer the question below.

Your question is irrelevant. Only that you are too stup1d to realize it.

meanwhile, project millennium promises to be part two of south Africa being the only foolish country to be conned of more overpriced faulty junks. Watch this space.

At least three companies in the running to boost SAAF airlift, maritime and transport capacity

Written by Kim Helfrich, Tuesday, 10 December 2013



The mainstays of the SA Air Force’s (SAAF) airlift and multi-role maritime aircraft have been in service for 50 and 60 years plus respectively, making planning for replacements a priority.
Both Airbus Military and Lockheed Martin have been maintaining close contact and dialogue with Armscor, the SAAF and other policy and decision makers in the defence sector. Another major player, in the form of Boeing Defence, is set to do the same.
Chris Chadwick, president of the military arm of the American aerospace giant, said in Cape Town last month they had begun to engage with government and industry leaders to “better understand the fabric” in South Africa” so that relationships could be started.
The SAAF is reportedly currently busy with a project to determine the feasibility of bringing probably used Ilyushin Il-76s into its aircraft inventory. At the same time Lockheed Martin wants to know “exactly what the SAAF’s airlift requirements are” so it can assist, according to Dennys Plessas, Vice President Business Development initiatives of the Marietta, Georgia, based aerospace and defence company.
Spain-headquartered Airbus Military is another aerospace company wanting to see at least some of its product range in SAAF livery. Last year it brought the twin-engined C295 transport to South Africa for evaluation by the SAAF. This after former Defence and Military Veterans Minister Lindiwe Sisulu opted to take South Africa out of the A400M programme which the country previously bought into as a risk taking partner. This would have seen the new generation A400M airlifter come into SAAF service alongside the ageing C-130BZs.
Airbus sub-Sahara spokesman Linden Birns points out South Africa was able to cancel its order because the first A400M had not flown by October 31, 2009. “As it happened the maiden flight was six weeks later – in hindsight an inconsequential delay considering an air force will probably keep aircraft like the A400M in service for 30 to 40 years”.
Industry insiders point out there is another option for the SAAF, apart from those currently on offer or being investigated.
Reports indicate both Germany and Spain will not be taking the original quota of A400Ms ordered. These aircraft are part of the first production run of the new generation airlifter and could be acquired by way of government to government negotiations.
Speaking last year after 35 Squadron’s “Blue Bird”, the C-47TP painted in Silver Falcons colours to indicate its affiliation to the crack aerobatics team, crashed in the Drakensberg killing all aboard, Defence and Military Veterans Minister Nosiviwe Mapisa-Nqakula expressed her unhappiness at the use of an aircraft more than 60 years old.
This along with 50 years of service from the backbone of the SAAF’s airlift capability at 28 Squadron has not gone unnoticed by SAAF top management with the Il-76 investigation currently underway.
Airbus Military can supply C295s relatively quickly, important for particularly the maritime patrol and surveillance function as well as boosting air transport capacity.
Lockheed has indicated it is prepared to speak with its major client, the US Air Force, if South Africa decides on the C-130J for a multi-role aircraft.
With more and more demands being placed on airlift and maritime capabilities of the SAAF, decisions have to be made sooner rather than later to support continental deployments, patrol own maritime economic exclusion zones (EEZ) as well as waters off the west coast in terms of a tri-nation Benguela Current protection agreement between South Africa, Namibia, and Angola.

While flying hours have been cut across the board in the SA Air Force (SAAF), this has not stopped the Gripen pilots of 2 Squadron from keeping abreast of technology developments.

After attending a CSIR Defence and Security technology seminar, squadron boss Lieutenant Colonel Musa Mbhokota decided it was time for his pilots to gain some first-hand insight into the electronic defence evaluation and research capabilities at the Council for Scientific and Industrial Research (CSIR).

“This gave pilots and engineers the opportunity to discuss operational needs and how best to match these to technology know-how,” said Herman le Roux, research group leader in smart systems at the CSIR.

Domains covered during the intensive two-day technology workshop included concept air defence suppression weapons, future anti-radiation weapons, optronics countermeasures, tactical data links and radar target recognition of aircraft. The group from AFB Makhado was also given a demonstration of the Gripen mission control simulator and motion simulation. These are unique systems developed by the CSIR.

The session covered both current-day and future technology trends and changing threats. This provided the attendees with a better understanding of their own capabilities which can be implemented or adapted to continue the tasks of peace enforcement and support.

Colonel George Muller, senior staff officer at Aerospace Technology, said the session was an opportunity to discuss priority needs within the squadron – and ways to address these needs with “rigour and a growing mutual understanding of the challenges”.

“It is evident there is a need to regularly schedule work group sessions in the near future and the scope should include other operational domains within the SAAF,” Muller said.

The CSIR has already received requests from other groups in the SA National Defence Force (SANDF) to schedule technical work groups with the CSIR.

“Technical work groups are important platforms because of the knowledge transfer that is possible during these sessions. It was an eye-opener for the pilots to see and learn more about the level of technical capability they have access to at the CSIR. And the level of engagement between the groups will bring great benefit as we co-create the tools and systems our defence force needs,” le Roux said.

In the DRC a SANDF sniper racked up what is considered by experts to be one of the longest successful kill shots and the home-grown Rooivalk combat support helicopter proved to be too much for the M23 rebel group, which has long been a thorn in the side of FARDC (DRC government forces) and the UN Mission in that country.

A single successful sortie by a pair of 16 Squadron Rooivalks is viewed by military observers as the turning point that led to the M23 retreating. It also marked the Rooivalk’s first ever combat since the helicopter entered service with the SA Air Force.

While the SANDF has yet to officially comment on the more than two kilometre shot by the South African sniper deployed as part of the FIB, military watchers said it was the sixth longest confirmed successful sniper shot in military history.

Equipment-wise, the SA Army will be breathing much easier now that all the paperwork is finally completed and Denel Land Systems can start production of its long-awaited replacement for the Ratel infantry fighting vehicle: the Badger.

The first of 238 Badgers will be delivered to the landward arm of service in 2015 with the final vehicle’s delivery date currently set for 2022. Sadly, the delay in finalisation of the production contract has meant a drop of 56 in the number of Badgers to be built.

KENYA'S shopping mall massacre shook the world. Yet all it took was four terrorists with guns. Now, investigators say they all escaped.

It's a story of chaos, confusion - and corruption.

The New York Police Department has conducted its own in-depth analysis of the September attack which killed more than 60 at the Westgate Shopping Mall in Nairobi. It was an exercise designed to familiarise the often-targeted city's law enforcers with what to expect.

Their discoveries have debunked much of what Kenyan authorities claim, and painted a frightening picture of the power of a few angry men with guns.

And they doubt the terrorists died in the collapsing building.

"As a cop, I'm very sceptical of claims until I see proof," Lt. Detective Commander Kevin Yorke, who oversaw the report, said. He added that there is "a lot of doubt in my mind it is true."

Detective Yorke said it was only now a real picture was emerging from 'the fog of war'.

But the most startling component of the report is the dangerous incompetence shown by Kenya's military and police reaction.


http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/new...-1226780483902

NYPD investigation into Kenya's Westgate Mall terror attacks reveals the truth behind the massacre of more than 60 civilians
JAMIE SEIDEL
NEWS LIMITED NETWORK
DECEMBER 11, 2013 12:11PM
CCTV footage shows Kenyan soldiers apparently looting shops during the Westgate siege.
KENYA'S shopping mall massacre shook the world. Yet all it took was four terrorists with guns. Now, investigators say they all escaped.

It's a story of chaos, confusion - and corruption.

The New York Police Department has conducted its own in-depth analysis of the September attack which killed more than 60 at the Westgate Shopping Mall in Nairobi. It was an exercise designed to familiarise the often-targeted city's law enforcers with what to expect.

Their discoveries have debunked much of what Kenyan authorities claim, and painted a frightening picture of the power of a few angry men with guns.

And they doubt the terrorists died in the collapsing building.

"As a cop, I'm very sceptical of claims until I see proof," Lt. Detective Commander Kevin Yorke, who oversaw the report, said. He added that there is "a lot of doubt in my mind it is true."

Detective Yorke said it was only now a real picture was emerging from 'the fog of war'.

But the most startling component of the report is the dangerous incompetence shown by Kenya's military and police reaction.

Here's what the NYPD found.

Repeated gunfire can be heard as supermarket shoppers take cover at the Westgate Mall in Kenya. Courtesy CCTV Africa
Tiny attack force

Kenyan authorities have repeatedly claimed that up to 15 heavily armed attackers from the al-Qaeda affiliated al-Shabaab terror group were involved in the operation which overwhelmed the African nation's police and defence forces for three days. Some were supposed to be foreign nationals.

New York Police Commissioner Ray Kelly told media yesterday his investigators did not know "with certainty" how many people were involved, "but we believe there were only four shooters."

Their reconstruction of the attack suggests the four men acted in teams of two, coordinating their movements via mobile phone.


Light attack ... The Kenyan mall attackers are believed to have been very lightly armed. A more determined and early police response may have prevented the high number of casualties. AP Source: AP
Lightly armed

They were supposed to have been wielding heavy machineguns and explosives. But the NYPD says a review of video footage and ballistics evidence shows they were carrying only "light" weapons such as AK-47 rifles and grenades.

Three grenades were used upon their entrance to the mall, after which the terrorists used single-shots to target fleeing shoppers.

While carrying hundreds of rounds of ammunition in magazines strapped to their bodies, the NYPD says the attackers were not wearing any form of body armour or carrying handguns.

There were no heavy explosions. Smoke screens had not been created by setting mattresses and other materials on fire.

Instead, the NYPD says all of the heavy damage to the shopping mall's structure had been caused by antitank missiles being fired into the building by Kenyan military.


Confused response ... Kenyan police and military forces appear not to have been communicating. As a result, a team of unmarked and plain-clothed police officers appears to have been attacked by Kenyan soldiers. AFP Source: AFP
'Friendly fire'

Initially, Kenyan authorities believed they were responding to an armed holdup. A tactical response team did not arrive at the Mall until some 90 minutes after the initial attack.

From this point, confusion reigned.

Police - wearing no identification or markings - entered the complex, fully armed.

They were quickly fired upon by Kenyan soldiers who had also been summoned to the scene. Among the dead was the police tactical response team's commander.

It was this incident that may have produced the stories of "heavily armed, body-armour-wearing" terrorists.


Light and mobile ... The terrorists are believed to have not taken any hostages, preferring to test — then shoot — their victims. (AP /Jonathan Kalan) Source: AP
No hostages

The presence of hostages was always used as an excuse for the slow military response to the shopping-mall raid. Now, the NYPD says it doubts there were any.

Instead, the report says the terrorists sought to kill as many as they could.

RELATED: Video shows horror inside Westgate Mall

Only those who were able to recite Muslim prayers - and in once instance name the Prophet Mohammed's mother - were allowed to go free.

The idea that there may have been hostages is thought to have arisen because by so many shoppers were "playing dead" and hiding.


Off the scene ... Wanted terrorist and British citizen Samantha Lewthwaite was not a part of the Westgate Mall attack force, say the NYPD. Source: News Limited
White Widow 'distraction'.

A NYPD review of witness accounts and CCTV footage indicates no women were involved, the report says.

RELATED: Blood-stirring ode and weight loss worries: Lewthwaite's secret files

Media speculation - apparently encouraged by statements from Kenyan officials - named British citizen and al-Shabaab terrorist Samantha Lewthwaite as one of the attack team storming the shopping complex.


After the horse had bolted ... Kenyan soldiers clear the shopping complex on September 24 — three days after the terrorists appear to have fled. AFP / CARL DE SOUZA Source: AFP
Early escape

The gunbattle to clear the mall lasted three days. But there is no evidence the terrorists were there beyond the first 12 hours.

NYPD investigations indicate at least one of the attackers was wounded in the leg. But the fighters systematically destroyed CCTV cameras in order to cover their movements.

And their actual attack only lasted six hours. After this, the NYPD report says the terrorists hid in a storeroom. Here, they prayed and tended to their wounded comrade.

RELATED: Security 'looted shops' during Westgate siege

There is no evidence any attacker remained in the mall after 12:15am on September 22, the NYPD says.

Despite this, the siege lasted another two days.

During this time CCTV footage captured members of the Kenyan military looting the high-end shopping complex under the cover of the crisis.


A still from CCTV footage believed to show two of the attackers in the Westgate Mall. Source: Supplied

agaugust:

south africa did NOT return the faulty submarines because your corrupt politicians and cash greedy navy admirals had been paid bribes to shut up and accept them faulty like that, fact

"He said submarine manufacturer Ferrostaal was under fire for corrupt dealings with Greece and Portugal, whose own arms deals contributed to the current European fiscal crisis: "This [South Africa's submarine deal] is a déjà-vu situation with Portugal and Greece.

This is another example of what happens in arms deals all the time, but it seems to be happening more than most in our deals. We were sold equipment that seems to be of dubious quality, we were sold it at inflated prices because of the bribes that were paid"


http://www.timeslive.co.za/local/2012/08/12/not-one-of-the-r8-billion-arms-deal-submarines-is-operational


swallow the bitter pills of truth....fool

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Is not operational does not equate to faulty. Read that article over again and you will understand.

Msauza:

Is not operational does not equate to faulty

Olodo. You read it again. And this time, use a dictionary.

No one does. The recent catastrophe in Central African Republic proves that (09/12/2013 - ongoing ). Foreign Countries not of Africa must provide security for Central African Republic.

Tha Last Strong African Military was Ethiopia under Mengistu Haile Mariam.

Amhatu: No one does. The recent catastrophe in Central African Republic proves that (09/12/2013 - ongoing ). Foreign Countries not of Africa must provide security for Central African Republic.

Tha Last Strong African Military was Ethiopia under Mengistu Haile Mariam.

Mengistu was a brutal military dictator ! Ethiopia was economically poor in his time.

I agree the military was a great war fighting machine in his time, even Nigeria was not much stronger that Ethiopia then...i mean the Army.

Ethiopia always had a better air force, but Nigeria always had the best air defense in Africa, nobody ever dares challenge our air defences till today.


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The reason why I see every single South African on this forum as fake commentators feeding themselves with the false grandeur of their false rantings and sick delusions:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/nelson-mandela-memorial-sign-language-interpreter-was-a-fake-8997486.html
http://www.timeslive.co.za/local/2013/12/11/mandela-memorial-sign-language-interpreter-fake---wtf
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/deaf-interpreter-nelson-mandela-memorial-fake-officials-article-1.1544251

Even in Mr. Mandela's death/memorial, it's funny how this fake South African man impressed himself by fooling everyone as he misinterpreted and misrepresented the memorial proceedings to the unsuspecting gathering in the name of sign language. SANDF, organizers and SA security still can't explain how he got accreditation, breached security, and disappeared after fooling the audience.

And while Archbishop Desmond Tutu was busy dealing with Mr. Mandela's memorial matters in Pretoria, his home in Cape Town was being burgled and fleeced of valuables in Cape Town. South Africa united for Madiba?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2521960/Desmond-Tutus-house-burgled-delivering-prayer-Mandelas-memorial-service.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/thieves-burgle-home-of-archbishop-desmond-tutu-while-he-attends-nelson-mandela-memorial-service-8998304.html
http://www.thenational.ae/world/africa/desmond-tutus-home-burgled-while-he-attended-mandela-memorial

A sad but true commentary of South Africa before and after Mr. Mandela.

“IT is better to help a friend pay his fine, than tell a lie to help him cover a crime.” - Nigerian proverb.

It was literally a life-long ambition, and I used every opportunity to meet the old man in person. I was finally in a position to press buttons and call old friends to render favors, and in early 2007 I succeeded. I was told I could see Mandela for only 30 minutes at his home, but I needed to get there one hour earlier.

Colleagues I had leaned on were skeptical that I would see him despite the appointment, particularly since I will not say it was official. An old South African friend and course mate from South Africa, who helped, suggested I asked questions or matters I wanted to discuss with him and send them in advance. I did not think that was the type of meeting I wanted, so I did not.

Mandela was surprised when he was told I worked at the Nigerian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, but had spent six months trying to see him to pay my personal respects. Why did you not go through your colleagues here? I told him the visit was not official. I just wanted to meet him. He relaxed and apologised that it had taken that long for me to see him. Others left us, except a lady, who sat discreetly away from us. I thought she was a medical person.



How are my Nigerian brothers and sisters? He asked me. He will not let me take the initiative. ‘You know I am not very happy with Nigeria. I have made that very clear on many occasions’. Now I was curious. I knew of course that he led our suspension from the Commonwealth after the hanging of the late Ken Saro-Wiwa and his Ogoni compatriots. It was also no secret that South African governments including one he headed had considerably cooled off towards Nigeria, and by the time I was meeting him, Nigeria was a dirty word in most cities in South Africa. I mentioned that Nigerian people had very strong and positive dispositions towards South Africa and the Southern African region, and many were puzzled that people who marched all the way with South Africans can be despised by the governments and people of South Africa. Yes, he responded. Nigeria stood by us more than any nation, but you let yourselves down and Africa and the black race very badly.



I knew I was going to get a lecture, so I sat back. He spoke with passion and anger at a nation, which has one-quarter of the black race, and had everything, needed to be great, but is known principally for its dictators and its criminals.

Your country, he said, used to be respected. After your suspension from the Commonwealth, many western countries approached me to help in isolating Nigeria so that it will be easier to bring down your military dictators. I consulted many African leaders, and all were unanimous in their advice. They told me to stay clear of Nigeria, that you will fix your problems. You have done it before. ‘But’, he shook his head, ‘you have not. Not this time’. The world will not respect Africa until Nigeria earns that respect. The black people of the world need Nigeria to be great as a source of pride and confidence. Nigerians love freedom and hate oppression.Why do you do it to yourselves? He remembered Tafawa Balewa, the first leader who gave his party, ANC, financial contribution.

I saw an opening here. I suggested that all Africans are bitter at their leaders. With due respect, I said, his presidency had not changed lives of black South Africans much, and his successors are not likely to do so. Yes, he agreed,’ but we raised hopes that others can do so. ‘He was back to Nigeria. ‘Your leaders have no respect for their people. They believe that their personal interests are the interests of the people. They take people’s resources and turn it into personal wealth. There is a level of poverty in Nigeria that should be unacceptable. I cannot understand why Nigerians are not more angry than they are’, he continued.

Since it was obvious that he was intent on pouring his heart out, I decided to let him speak. ‘What do young Nigerians think about your leaders and their country and Africa? Do you teach them history? Do you have lessons on how your past leaders stood by us and gave us large amounts of money? You know I hear from Angolans and Mozambicans and Zimbabweans how your people opened their hearts and their homes to them. I was in prison then, but we know how your leaders punished western companies who supported Apartheid’. I reminded him that we had elected governments since 1999, and he knew some of our leaders in person. Yes, he did. ‘But what about the corruption and the crimes?’ he asked? ‘Your elections are like wars’. Now we hear that you cannot be president in Nigeria unless you are Muslim or Christian. Some people tell me your country may break up. Please don’t let it happen’.

He sat back. I obviously got a lot more than I bargained for. Then he mellowed down, and apologized. He had not even asked me what I wanted to see him for, and he was tearing at my country. It was fine, I assured him. I merely wanted to meet him and pay my respects. He then asked me a lot of personal questions, and in particular what I was doing personally to improve the capacity of the Nigerian people to build the nation to be a source of pride and comfort for Nigerians, Africa and the black race. But he was in a lecturing mood.

‘Let me tell you what I think you need to do’ he said. ‘You should encourage leaders to emerge who will not confuse public office with sources of making personal wealth. Corrupt people do not make good leaders. Then you have to spend a lot of your resources for education. Educate children of the poor, so that they can get out of poverty. Poverty does not breed confidence. Only confident people can bring changes. Poor, uneducated people can also bring change, but it will be hijacked by the educated and the wealthy’.

‘Like South Africa today, sir’, I quipped. He paused. ‘It will be difficult for the world to understand that it will take generations to eliminate the structural roots and effects of Apartheid.’ ‘But’, I drove the point home, ‘You created the impression that the political compromises and concessions you made would lead to a dramatic change in the fortunes of black people’. ‘Dramatic?’ he asked. ‘In many ways we achieved dramatic results’.’ Like in sports’, I pressed further. ‘Sports is important to South Africans. It gave them confidence to believe things are possible. And it united them”. ‘But sir, it created a false sense of progress, and people here think it is all a gimmick by white people to create a diversion’.’ It is not a diversion, he countered. It is real. South Africans will have to come to terms with the reality that their country is a multi-racial, multi-cultural nation with rich and poor. Any efforts to reduce the gulf between the races and classes is useful, he insisted.

Then he was back to Nigeria. People had said to him that South Africa could become an alternative beacon of hope and inspiration for the black race and Africa. He told them it was always going to be Nigeria. Nigeria, Egypt and South Africa can provide a tripod for real change but young Africans need to capture that vision. ‘So’, he said to me, ‘If this audience has been useful, I am glad. But it will be more useful to me if you go back to Nigeria and work to give young Nigerians good education. Teach them the value of hard work and sacrifice, and discourage them from crimes which are destroying your image as a good people.’

I have re-lived that rare opportunity many times since that visit. The 30-minute audience lasted for one hour, and I was escorted out by a man I saw close up as human as anyone. I had rarely come across such candor about my country, but it was clearly the product of genuine concern that one of Africa’s greatest assets was being frittered away.

As he shook my hand to say goodbye, he apologized again over his comments, but assured me that he would love to see Nigeria grow and develop into a world economic power under a democratic system. If there is any comfort to draw from Mandela’s disappointment, it will be that he may not have observed our free-fall as a nation in the last five years

chris365:

4. and you are still acting like a gorilla on heat

5. You still act like hyena dancing with your master in Nigeria.

NaijaPikinGidi: And while Archbishop Desmond Tutu was busy dealing with Mr. Mandela's memorial matters in Pretoria, his home in Cape Town was being burgled and fleeced of valuables in Cape Town. South Africa united for Madiba?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2521960/Desmond-Tutus-house-burgled-delivering-prayer-Mandelas-memorial-service.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/thieves-burgle-home-of-archbishop-desmond-tutu-while-he-attends-nelson-mandela-memorial-service-8998304.html
http://www.thenational.ae/world/africa/desmond-tutus-home-burgled-while-he-attended-mandela-memorial

A sad but true commentary of South Africa before and after Mr. Mandela.

South Africa is a s..h..i..t hole


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agaugust:

is your brain locked up by a herbalist juju ? do you ever learn ?

i told you 7 x 7 times that weapon platforms dont fight according to their age, name, or model, but according to the armaments/ordinance/munitions they carry.

NNS ARADU's Otomat anti-ship missiles are the most deadly in the world, and defeated the whole american navy's modern warships in live combat testing, Otomat is a partial-stealth missile your dull brain does not know.

i challenge any south african military general or analyst to face me on NNS ARADU vs ANY SOWETO WARSHIP, let us prove our claims in a combat simulation, bring it on south africans if you dare !


Otomat missile is partly a Stealth missile you dont know ?

Otomat has been tested again and again and over too much tested and proved unstoppable in europe and america.


" In another example at least 8 missiles were bought by US Navy: thanks to a evasive, final maneuver, the majority of these weapons, called LRAT (Long Range Attack Target) Otomat missile penetrated inside the formidable missile defenses of US ships . To improve the missile chances of hitting, its nose and wing shapes were optimized for a reduced radar cross section (RCS). Range was improved to 250–300 km while keeping the same dimensions of the previous versions. The warhead was kept at 210 kg but fitted with an armored casing and less sensitive explosives which lowered its chances of being destroyed by close-in weapon systems. Three Otomat missiles were test launched in 1994–1995 with good results."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otomat

mighty american navy is the most powerful in the world....they could NOT jam the Otomat missile because it had its own counter-measures/anti-jamming devices....ALL american navy electronics and technology and defense missiles could NOT stop a single Otomat.

south african navy has NO defence against Otomat missile, all your Exocet missiles are inferior in range and stealth capacity.

please leave this topic...lets talk something new...

Aradu means Thunder in Igbo land, and a full Thunder strike means instant death

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NNS Arandu can be send deep down by a SAN submarine easily.

Mike..ZA:
NNS Arandu can be send deep down by a SAN submarine easily.

SAN submarine can be detected by NNS ARADU's new American anti-submarine detector sonar and sunk to sea bottom by ARADU's anti-submarine multiple tube torpedoes.

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Henry120:

Now fool, these are the drones you claim are not working

Ever heard about shopping trolleys? Are this drones pushed around instead of flying?. I can too put up pictures of weapon systems of South Africa armed forces which aren't used.

And @Pistolx says:


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