Gombs:




Confusion

I don't need to mention Melchizedek before you should know what I'm driving at.

petra1:


I was analyzing daddy freeze error. He dwell on an irrelevant tithe to deceive the people. As though that is what tithe was meant for. I'm not advocating for mosaic law. Just analyzing . We are not tithing based on maosaic law. Tithing existed 400 years before the law came . Tithes and offerings are eternal principles .

Anything that's not in the moral law (10 commandments) us not binding on anyone. We can give accordingly as the spirit leads us.

otr1:

Anything that's not in the moral law (10 commandments) us not binding on anyone. We can give accordingly as the spirit leads us.

Free will offering nko?

It should be ON RECORD that the OP had to change the TITLE of this thread.

Even though he didn't say why it may be that it was because he knew he was, ab initio, economical with some details.

In pointing out a person's ERROR it is necessary to CLEARLY state what the person said and then how it is not correct. That a man singled out one out of the different types of tithes does not in itself constitute an error. For example, there are different types of BAPTISMS in the Bible. That a man singles out water baptism and argues on its wrong practice does not necessarily mean he's in error simply because he didn't mention the others. In this case on this thread the OP did just that.

The op never never really quoted what he was fighting against. I guess that as soon as there was a perceived attack on tithing the next thing was for him as an advocate of it to want to fight back.

Most tithes advocates work from THEIR CONCLUSIONS to derive their propositions or explanations that lead to their final stance. The OP happens to have done just that in this case.

A MAJOR issue tithe advocates and indeed many Christians fail to see is that the CHURCH is unique. The failure to seek to understand its uniqueness then leads to lumping up of any practice pre-law, law or "eternal principle" as part of the Christian way of life.

How come tithers ignore the FACT that the book of Acts and the epistles that cover not just 1, 5, 8 or 10 years of church life NEVER gave us ANYTHING about tithing in the Church?

How come modern day tithe advocates TOTALLY IGNORE how the early Church GAVE and ADMINISTERED proceeds of giving by believers?

IamtherealRita:


How much did they pay you to write this rubbish

Your masters have not answer Daddy Freeze question yet. Look for a better job please

hmmm my sister you would blame a mega church slay Queen, why won't she defend her thief pastors who are helping her to be more ignorant than than knowing the truth. they see celebrity pastors as God himself and swallow anything he ditches out to them and just be shouting away their youthful energy in response to his teaching s.

plainbibletruth:

. That a man singled out one out of the different types of tithes does not in itself constitute an error.

It is deceptive and a big error and a lie . Tithes have always been to God right from the days of. Our father Abraham . God still told the Jews to give him his tithe under the law .

Leviticus 27:30
And all the tithe of the land, whether of the seed of the land, or of the fruit of the tree, is the Lord's: it is holy unto the Lord.

God addition told the Jews to take anothe 10% to feast with and another 10% to the poor .

Does that take away the tithe to God through the priest ? No . That’s the deception . Daddy freeze now lied that the title to God is meant for drinking beer . He deceptively use the lesser to supplant the greater .And all the greedy nontithers are happy they found a hero it’s amazing. He should

Most tithes advocates work from THEIR CONCLUSIONS to derive their propositions or explanations that lead to their final stance. The OP happens to have done just that in this case.

A MAJOR issue tithe advocates and indeed many Christians fail to see is that the CHURCH is unique. The failure to seek to understand its uniqueness then leads to lumping up of any practice pre-law, law or "eternal principle" as part of the Christian way of life.

You’re wrong . The kingdom of God runs on principles . Principles cut across dispensation . Some before the law others in the law . They are relevant to Christians . For example REUBEN was cursed for sleeping with his fathers wife . Before the law , in the law God Commaded Israel against it . And it’s based on that knowledge that paul asked the christian who slept with the fathers wife to be excommunicated from the church . Because it’s against principles of God . Now the mistakes of antitithers is that they look for silent area of the Bible to hide and excuse their greed . Paul didn’t write the epistles as bible or to complete the Bible . They were letters written to deal with situations . If we had never had such case if the man sleeping with his fathers wife . The New Testament would have been silent on that issue . If if that case never came up . Nairaland Fornicators would jump on that and commit same sin . After all we are not under the law

How come tithers ignore the FACT that the book of Acts and the epistles that cover not just 1, 5, 8 or 10 years of church life NEVER gave us ANYTHING about tithing in the Church?

They had the Bible . If there was any problem with tithe or offering they would have said it .If the church was silent about it it means to maintain status quo.

How come modern day tithe advocates TOTALLY IGNORE how the early Church GAVE and ADMINISTERED proceeds of giving by believers?

There are different kinds of giving . We must do all . Selling land and property and giving all cannot be compared the verse below

1 Corinthians 16:1 (KJV)
Now concerning the collection for the saints, as I have given order to the churches of Galatia, even so do ye.
2 Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come.

There about 7-9 different kinds of giving in Gods kingdom. We must do all . One does not supplant the other .

petra1:


It is deceptive and a big error and a lie . Tithes have always been to God right from the days of. Our father Abraham . God still told the Jews to give him his tithe
.......
You’re wrong . The kingdom of God runs on principles . Principles cut across dispensation . Some before the law others in the law . They are relevant to Christians.

Paul didn’t write the epistles as bible or to complete the Bible. (REALY?) They were letters written to deal with situations .
....
They had the Bible . If there was any problem with tithe or offering they would have said it .If the church was silent about it it means to maintain status quo.

1. Why have you not been able to show us the "principle" on TITHING from the life of the Church in the New Testament.

2. Show us and the matter will be settled once and for all.

3. Is the Christian under GRACE? If so, what does that mean as far as his giving is concerned? Focus your response on giving or tithing so that the matter is clear. Don't bring in other issues that may confuse us. Any other deductions will be mere SPECULATION on your part.

4. One case of ours is this: If tithing is as serious as you guys are making it out to be, to such an extent that a church leader will attach curse to it, then it is critical that we see where the CHURCH is told she must practice it.

5. So, please, in case we missed it, show us again this "principle", AS IT RELATES TO TITHING, from the epistles since you said it cuts across dispensations.

der is nothing like 3 kind of tithes in d bible.
Where are u from? I guess one of 9ja bible schools has taught u or ur teacher.
How u did u pple arrive @ chosing 1out of the 3.
Which of the 3 did apostles collect?
I believe u don't pay tax sef neither ur pastors but christ commands us to pay tax

Geesaintagape:
der is nothing like 3 kind of tithes in d bible.
Where are u from? I guess one of 9ja bible schools has taught u or ur teacher.

Don't sweat it, he is a Christ Embassy Pastor.

plainbibletruth:
It should be ON RECORD that the OP had to change the TITLE of this thread.

Even though he didn't say why it may be that it was because he knew he was, ab initio, economical with some details.

The op never never really quoted what he was fighting against. I guess that as soon as there was a perceived attack on tithing the next thing was for him as an advocate of it to want to fight back.

What do you expect when someone's milk and honey source is being threatened?

plainbibletruth:


What is laughable is when some, like you, take portions of the Bible and feel they can use it to support tithing in the church.

That is what is insult to God and stupid .

Whatever the number of types of tithes in Israel or before Israel, the issue today is: DO THEY APPLY TO THE CHURCH TODAY?

Diverting attention away from the CORE issue and now focusing on number of tithes or how they were done smacks of DECEIT.

There is NO priesthood of Melchizedek in the New Testa­ment. What we have in the New Testament is THE PRIESTHOOD OF JESUS CHRIST. Jesus's priesthood SUPERSEDES any and ALL the other Priesthoods prior to it including that of Melchizedek.

The New Testament has prescribed how to further the Gospel; and it NOT through tithes.

There is NO WHERE in the New Testament where the Christian is asked to tithe ACCORDING to Abraham's: No where!

God bless you..... they would just take portions of the bible and use it to maneuver the minds of christains that fail to read the bible and understand the truth of everything. if tithing was important jesus christ would have instructed it instead he didnt he only insulted the pharesees telling them that the only thing they knew how to do was to pay tithes which is less important and forgot the most important thing which was love and justice mt 23:23

petra1:



It is deceptive and a big error and a lie . Tithes have always been to God right from the days of. Our father Abraham . God still told the Jews to give him his tithe under the law .

Leviticus 27:30
And all the tithe of the land, whether of the seed of the land, or of the fruit of the tree, is the Lord's: it is holy unto the Lord.

God addition told the Jews to take anothe 10% to feast with and another 10% to the poor .

Does that take away the tithe to God through the priest ? No . That’s the deception . Daddy freeze now lied that the title to God is meant for drinking beer . He deceptively use the lesser to supplant the greater .And all the greedy nontithers are happy they found a hero it’s amazing. He should

Most tithes advocates work from THEIR CONCLUSIONS to derive their propositions or explanations that lead to their final stance. The OP happens to have done just that in this case.



You’re wrong . The kingdom of God runs on principles . Principles cut across dispensation . Some before the law others in the law . They are relevant to Christians . For example REUBEN was cursed for sleeping with his fathers wife . Before the law , in the law God Commaded Israel against it . And it’s based on that knowledge that paul asked the christian who slept with the fathers wife to be excommunicated from the church . Because it’s against principles of God . Now the mistakes of antitithers is that they look for silent area of the Bible to hide and excuse their greed . Paul didn’t write the epistles as bible or to complete the Bible . They were letters written to deal with situations . If we had never had such case if the man sleeping with his fathers wife . The New Testament would have been silent on that issue . If if that case never came up . Nairaland Fornicators would jump on that and commit same sin . After all we are not under the law



They had the Bible . If there was any problem with tithe or offering they would have said it .If the church was silent about it it means to maintain status quo.



There are different kinds of giving . We must do all . Selling land and property and giving all cannot be compared the verse below

1 Corinthians 16:1 (KJV)
Now concerning the collection for the saints, as I have given order to the churches of Galatia, even so do ye.
2 Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come.

There about 7-9 different kinds of giving in Gods kingdom. We must do all . One does not supplant the other .

it is obvious that you lack understanding because if u dont understand what you are saying.... to start with everything freeze tells you is what he has read from the bible... so if you say he lied that means you dont read and understand its in det 14. read 4 urself

and secondly the tithes where to be collected by the levites so ur pastor whose ancestor is not levi has no right to collect it cause they are not levites and nothing like spiritual livites. that is what they decive you with.

also, the desciples only collected offerings and not tithe they dare not collect tithe because they are not levites themselves dont be confused. and dont conclude for the bible that it was not mentioned means they never practised it....

and the basis of christainity is christ that is why we are to follow the doctrines of the first church which was after christ ascended into heaven. acts 6 explains even why offerings they collected started there was murmur in the church so they started collecting those offerings to meet the needs of the members of the body of christ and the bible recorded that nobody lacked after that...

kellybee95:

it is obvious that you lack understanding because if u dont understand what you are saying.... to start with everything freeze tells you is what he has read from the bible... so if you say he lied that means you dont read and understand its in det 14. read 4 urself

Did you read my post at all? Or just the title carried you away . I know many Nigerians hardly read . Kindly read my post .

and secondly the tithes where to be collected by the levites so ur pastor whose ancestor is not levi has no right to collect it cause they are not levites and nothing like spiritual livites. that is what they decive you with.

Levite only collected tithes and offerings under levitical the order . Was Melchizedek who tithe from Abraham a Levite? . Christ is our high priest now in the order of Melchizedek . We are not in Levitical order

also, the desciples only collected offerings and not tithe they dare not collect tithe because they are not levites themselves dont be confused. and dont conclude for the bible that it was not mentioned means they never practised it....

Your are wrong . Levites and priests collected the offerings and tithes . They were the ministers of Gods sanctuary Then. In this new dispensation God still has ministers whom he has called . Most of them are volunteers few are full time.

acts 6 explains even why offerings they collected started there was murmur in the church so they started collecting those offerings to meet the needs of the members of the body of christ and the bible recorded that nobody lacked after that...

Don’t talk about what you don’t know . Someone like you should rather be asking questions and not trying to teach . The priblem in the early church was about serving food not about offering

Acts 6:1
. Those who spoke only Greek complained that their widows were being discriminated against, that they were not being given as much food in the daily distribution as the widows who spoke Hebrew.

petra1:


Did you read my post at all? Or just the title carried you away . I know many Nigerians hardly read . Kindly read my post .



Levite only collected tithes and offerings under levitical the order . Was Melchizedek who tithe from Abraham a Levite? . Christ is our high priest now in the order of Melchizedek . We are not in Levitical order



Your are wrong . Levites and priests collected the offerings and tithes . They were the ministers of Gods sanctuary Then. In this new dispensation God still has ministers whom he has called . Most of them are volunteers few are full time.



Don’t talk about what you don’t know . Someone like you should rather be asking questions and not trying to teach . The priblem in the early church was about serving food not about offering

Acts 6:1
. Those who spoke only Greek complained that their widows were being discriminated against, that they were not being given as much food in the daily distribution as the widows who spoke Hebrew.

guy.... its obvious ur lack insight.... i just hope that ur not too broke b4 u realize the truth... just like jesus said ur part of the GOATS {not an insult o} that were sent to the left.. mat 5.... so keep wallowing in ur ignorance God Help you.......

kellybee95:

it is obvious that you lack understanding because if u dont understand what you are saying

kellybee95:

guy.... its obvious ur lack insight.... i just hope that ur not too broke b4 u realize the truth... just like jesus said ur part of the GOATS {not an insult o} that were sent to the left.. mat 5.... so keep wallowing in ur ignorance God Help you.......

Are you not a christian . How can you be calling another poster GOAT ! Over the Word of God.

plainbibletruth:


1. Why have you not been able to show us the "principle" on TITHING from the life of the Church in the New Testament.

2. Show us and the matter will be settled once and for all

The church didn’t need to make a new law on tithing they already have the scriptures . Paul also gave a parallel illustration in 1 cor 9:13-14

3. Is the Christian under GRACE?

Sure

If so, what does that mean as far as his giving is concerned? Focus your response on giving or tithing so that the matter is clear. Don't bring in other issues that may confuse us. Any other deductions will be mere SPECULATION on your part.

There is no confusion where honesty is . Kindly look at the spirit of the illustration . It’s a point I was bringing out. We are not afraid of the truth are we ?

[quote]4. One case of ours is this: If tithing is as serious as you guys are making it out to be, to such an extent that a church leader will attach curse to it, then it is critical that we see where the CHURCH is told she must practice it

The curse is a principle from the Bible . And it’s not over tithe only . He said they rob him
In TITHES and OFFERING . So you can’t be giving offering without giving the tithe . It’s hypocricy

5. So, please, in case we missed it, show us again this "principle", AS IT RELATES TO TITHING, from the epistles since you said it cuts across dispensations.

1cor 9:14

I will like you to also show me where incest is condemned for the church

kellybee95:

guy.... its obvious ur lack insight.... i just hope that ur not too broke b4 u realize the truth... just like jesus said ur part of the GOATS {not an insult o} that were sent to the left.. mat 5.... so keep wallowing in ur ignorance God Help you.......

What kind of giving do you do ? Or you don’t give at all?

petra1:


The church didn’t need to make a new law on tithing they already have the scriptures . Paul also gave a parallel illustration in 1 cor 9:13-14
Sure

Since you are not able to answer my questions directly, which was for you to show us the "principle" on TITHING from the life of the Church in the New Testament I take it that you're basing your position, perhaps even your Christian life, on some ESOTERIC understanding of the Bible.

I have never queried 1 Cor. 9:13-14 so I don't see why you're bringing it in here. Again, nothing in that verse of Scripture pertains to tithing! Yes, I believe Christian ministers are entitled to be taken care of from what believers give but nothing in that portion says it's from tithes.

You keep brandishing "principles", "principles", yet you have NOT BEEN ABLE to either define it clearly for us or show us how they apply to the New Covenant.

I thought this thread is about tithing. Why bring up some extraneous matter of incest unconnected to tithing? Let's not confuse issues.

Let's do a little Bible study:
When Malachi 4:4 says: "Remember the law of my servant Moses, the decrees and laws I gave him at Horeb for all Israel" how does that relate to the preceding words spoken by Malachi?

Does it not show that God expected his audience to TITHE ACCORDING TO the Mosaic Law?

Now, what did tithes consist of ACCORDING TO the Mosaic Law?

If you therefore INSIST that the New Covenant believer MUST tithe because of Malachi 3, what makes you IGNORE this portion of Malachi 4? (Some spirit-led understanding or fresh "revelation"?)

Are we not therefore to TITHE ACCORDING TO the Mosaic Law?

Malachi was a WHOLE. I expect you to know that. What gives you guys the LIBERTY to pick and choose whichever portion you want and DECIDE on how to MODIFY it to suit your CONCOCTED position on tithing?

If you claim you want to give people the TRUTH you need to be OPEN, STRAIGHTFORWARD and HONEST. If these are there it should be easy to SHOW from Scripture what you're claiming on tithing.

PS
I think you inserted your statement into mine that you copied. You may need to modify your post for clarity sake.

^^^^^^^^
If we seek truth ,let's be honest . Is nicest a sin?

Joyphoenix:


Are you not a christian . How can you be calling another poster GOAT ! Over the Word of God.

Leave him. By their fruits....

2 Timothy 2:24 (KJV)
And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient,

Joyphoenix:




Are you not a christian . How can you be calling another poster GOAT ! Over the Word of God.

Mat 25:31-46 pls read

plainbibletruth:


Since you are not able to answer my questions directly, which was for you to show us the "principle" on TITHING from the life of the Church in the New Testament I take it that you're basing your position, perhaps even your Christian life, on some ESOTERIC understanding of the Bible.

I have never queried 1 Cor. 9:13-14 so I don't see why you're bringing it in here. Again, nothing in that verse of Scripture pertains to tithing! Yes, I believe Christian ministers are entitled to be taken care of from what believers give but nothing in that portion says it's from tithes.

You keep brandishing "principles", "principles", yet you have NOT BEEN ABLE to either define it clearly for us or show us how they apply to the New Covenant.

I thought this thread is about tithing. Why bring up some extraneous matter of incest unconnected to tithing? Let's not confuse issues.

Let's do a little Bible study:
When Malachi 4:4 says: "Remember the law of my servant Moses, the decrees and laws I gave him at Horeb for all Israel" how does that relate to the preceding words spoken by Malachi?

Does it not show that God expected his audience to TITHE ACCORDING TO the Mosaic Law?

Now, what did tithes consist of ACCORDING TO the Mosaic Law?

If you therefore INSIST that the New Covenant believer MUST tithe because of Malachi 3, what makes you IGNORE this portion of Malachi 4? (Some spirit-led understanding or fresh "revelation"?)

Are we not therefore to TITHE ACCORDING TO the Mosaic Law?

Malachi was a WHOLE. I expect you to know that. What gives you guys the LIBERTY to pick and choose whichever portion you want and DECIDE on how to MODIFY it to suit your CONCOCTED position on tithing?

If you claim you want to give people the TRUTH you need to be OPEN, STRAIGHTFORWARD and HONEST. If these are there it should be easy to SHOW from Scripture what you're claiming on tithing.

PS
I think you inserted your statement into mine that you copied. You may need to modify your post for clarity sake.

Bros dont mind them... even b4 Malachi 3 there was Malachi 2.. they failed to read ... 2 showed the instructions of the robbing was fof these priest

petra1:


Free will offering nko?

I'm not against offerings or even tithes. But being selective in obedience to some laws is what I'm against. Why should pastors preach that we're no longer under the law, yet still preach about the importance of paying tithes, even when they know that payment of tithes is part of the law they preach has been nailedto the cross.
Believers should have the liberty to give according to their will. That's Christian giving.

otr1:

Anything that's not in the moral law (10 commandments) us not binding on anyone.

Alms giving was not part of the 10 commandment
Offering was not part of the 10 commandment
Fasting was not part of the 10 commandment
The law against incest was not part of the 10 commandment
Law against Gay wasn’t either

otr1:

I'm not against offerings or even tithes. But being selective in obedience to some laws is what I'm against. Why should pastors preach that we're no longer under the law, yet still preach about the importance of paying tithes, even when they know that payment of tithes is part of the law they preach has been nailedto the cross.

We are not under the law as s system , how ever there are principles the law contains that are principles of the kingdom of God . These principles have no expiry date . Many of them even existed before the law came . Such as Prayer , fasting , Tiyhed and offering , helping strangers , honoring parents . Etc. These are not shadows which christ fulfilled .

Believers should have the liberty to give according to their will. That's Christian giving.

What You’re talking was in the law too. It’s called FREEWILL OFFERING . No matter how much a man condemns content of the law . He will still find himself contradicting himself . Because the content of the law is good because if it is the law of God . It reveals Gods mins but seeking justification by the law is a curse .

kellybee95:


Bros dont mind them... even b4 Malachi 3 there was Malachi 2.. they failed to read ... 2 showed the instructions of the robbing was fof these priest

That’s not true . Malachi was adressing isreal . A Prophet can be talking to one person in a verse and switch to another person entirely in the next .

But concerning tithes he was addressing Israel not priest

He talked about tithe in verse 8 but in verse 6 it’s clear he was talking to a nation and not priest

Malachi 3:6
For I am the Lord, I change not;
therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.

Secondly the prophecy was addressing people who are farmers by default .

Malachi 3:11 (KJV Strong's)
11 And I will rebuke the devourer for your sakes,
and he shall not destroy the fruits of your ground;
neither shall your vine cast her fruit before the time in the field, saith the Lord of hosts.

QUESTION: Are priest farmers Or a nation

I still don't know why tithing issue is becoming a day to day topic these days. The only question I throw out to those who are brainwashed or money focused pastors regarding tithing is that : Show us where in the scripture(Bible) where Jesus Christ and his disciples and other great apostle of God paid tithe or collected tithe in the NEW TESTAMENT. Christian simply means CHRIST LIKE simply put we follow all the teaching of Jesus Christ who is the author and the finisher of our faith. Someone once told me that I should pray to God regarding tithing issue and I will understand better, I asked if Jesus and his disciples and other great apostle of God forgot to pray over tithing issue maybe that's why there is no where in the bible where they paid tithe or collected tithe.

Please in the name of God, stop deceiving people. Is tithing a prerequisite to enter heaven or for blessing? The answer is NO you and I know that. Tithing is Mosaic, Jesus Christ came to fulfill all the requirements of the Mosaic Law for us. The ultimate requirement of the Mosaic Law boiled down to an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, a life for a life. The sentence of death was on every single descendant of Adam. If pastors re-institute tithing, which is part of Mosaic Laws using it to get something out of God's people, why not re-institute all of them? Let us go back to slaughtering lambs and killing rebellious children? Remember, he who fails in one point of the Mosaic Law, is guilty of it all!

Grace001:
I still don't know why tithing issue is becoming a day to day topic these days. The only question I throw out to those who are brainwashed or money focused pastors regarding tithing is that : Show us where in the scripture(Bible) where Jesus Christ and his disciples and other great apostle of God paid tithe or collected tithe in the NEW TESTAMENT. Christian simply means CHRIST LIKE simply put we follow all the teaching of Jesus Christ who is the author and the finisher of our faith. Someone once told me that I should pray to God regarding tithing issue and I will understand better, I asked if Jesus and his disciples and other great apostle of God forgot to pray over tithing issue maybe that's why there is no where in the bible where they paid tithe or collected tithe.

Please in the name of God, stop deceiving people. Is tithing a prerequisite to enter heaven or for blessing? The answer is NO you and I know that. Tithing is Mosaic, Jesus Christ came to fulfill all the requirements of the Mosaic Law for us. The ultimate requirement of the Mosaic Law boiled down to an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, a life for a life. The sentence of death was on every single descendant of Adam. If pastors re-institute tithing, which is part of Mosaic Laws using it to get something out of God's people, why not re-institute all of them? Let us go back to slaughtering lambs and killing rebellious children? Remember, he who fails in one point of the Mosaic Law, is guilty of it all!

Tithing isn't Mosaic.


Go find threads of 2012 about these. Thanks

Gombs:



Tithing isn't Mosaic.


Go find threads of 2012 about these. Thanks

We the anti tithe knows this BUT....

The question is, when did or at what point up to the dispensation of Grace did Abraham tithe BECAME a LAW for CHRISTIANS to do EVERY MONTH OR WEEK?

petra1:


Read my post . I explained . Tithe is a principle that's what counts . Our tithes are Abrahamic not mosaic

I thought Abraham did tithe under old testatment?
Which God reveal its intent.
But we are talking about new testament tithe.
We support our pastor church,poor etc.
Why is that they say if you don't pay some money call it tithe( though you might be paying more than 10% of your money not only from income )then God will punish you or not bless you?
That is the question we need to understand.
Pls let us keep emotion or sentiments away from this

luckyCO:

I thought Abraham did tithe under old testatment?

The Old Testament was with Moses. Secret of tithing was already revealed to Abraham 400 years earlier

we are talking about new testament tithe.

theres no new testament tithe. tithe is tithe. 10% of what you are blessed with.

support our pastor church,poor etc.
Why is that they say if you don't pay some money call it tithe(

there are different kinds of givings in the word of God. free will offering to God,tithes, Alms for the poor, giving to parents etc. one should not take the place of the other.

though you might be paying more than 10% of your money not only from income )then God will punish you or not bless you?
That is the question we need to understand.

thats the point . for a giver ,tithe is one of our smallest giving. but the issue is not about the size but the instruction and its spirituality

let us keep emotion or sentiments away from this

plainbibletruth:


What is laughable is when some, like you, take portions of the Bible and feel they can use it to support tithing in the church.

That is what is insult to God and stupid .

Whatever the number of types of tithes in Israel or before Israel, the issue today is: DO THEY APPLY TO THE CHURCH TODAY?

Diverting attention away from the CORE issue and now focusing on number of tithes or how they were done smacks of DECEIT.

There is NO priesthood of Melchizedek in the New Testa­ment. What we have in the New Testament is THE PRIESTHOOD OF JESUS CHRIST. Jesus's priesthood SUPERSEDES any and ALL the other Priesthoods prior to it including that of Melchizedek.

The New Testament has prescribed how to further the Gospel; and it NOT through tithes.

There is NO WHERE in the New Testament where the Christian is asked to tithe ACCORDING to Abraham's: No where!

don't mind 'The Gullibles"