petra1:


Open your bible and Teach us . I will respond

TI1919:
Galatians 3:7-9
Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham. And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed. So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.



The funny thing about you and your tithe/offering collecting GO's is that you tried always to justify your useless way of life by quoting and using the scripture wrongly.

Jesus never justify himself in all his lifetime hear on earth

Gombs:



No be today my Posts begin dey give you seizures abi?

Why did you leave your other moniker?

petra1:


I welcome you to bring out your bible and challenge my post. If there is a contrary truth , if not kindly fall behind me

petra1:

It's laughable when some who don't study their bibles feel there is a hidden conspiracy about tithing in the church which pastors have been covering up. Daddy freeze claims that the Bible. Command tithes to be uses to drink beer. Firstly that's is insult to God and stupid . But in truth there is a provision under the law to use a tithe for feast and eating .

THERE WERE THREE DIFFERENT KINDS OF TITHES

There were three different kinds of tithes in the Bible . Daddy freeze dwell on a minor one to rubbish the major one .

The three different types are as follows:

1. THE LEVITICAL TITHE (sacred to God).

Leviticus 27:30
And all the tithe of the land, whether of the seed of the land, or of the fruit of the tree, is the Lord's: it is holy unto the Lord

This tithe is used for the work of service in the place of worship and also for the welfare of the workers there.

Numbers 18:21-25
21 And, behold, I have given the Levites all the tithes in Israel for an inheritance in return for their service which they serve, the [menial] service of the Tent of Meeting.


2. THE TITHE OF THE FEAST (Deut. 14:22-27).(daddy freeze beer boozing tithe )
Deuteronomy 14:22-23
Thou shalt truly tithe all the increase of thy seed, that the field bringeth forth year by year. And thou shalt eat before the Lord thy God, in the place which he shall choose to place his name there, the tithe of thy corn, of thy wine, and of thine oil, and the firstlings of thy herds and of thy flocks; that thou mayest learn to fear the Lord thy God always.


3. THE TITHE FOR THE POOR (Deut. 14:28, 29). (Every 3 years)
This is done once in very 3 years . It is shared among the poor . While the main annual tithe still runs .

Deuteronomy 14:28-29
At the end of three years thou shalt bring forth all the tithe of thine increase the same year, and shalt lay it up within thy gates: And the Levite, (because he hath no part nor inheritance with thee,) and the stranger, and the fatherless, and the widow, which are within thy gates, shall come, and shall eat and be satisfied; that the Lord thy God may bless thee in all the work of thine hand which thou doest

The first tithe, the one we trace back to Abra­ham (Gen. 14:18-20), is the sacred tithe, given to the Levites and priests for their service to the temple and the congregation in the Old Testa­ment. This is the tithe we continue to give under the priesthood of Melchizedek in the New Testa­ment. It is the tithe consecrated to God and the furtherance of the gospel and has, therefore, validity for all believers in Christ.

Paul was clear enough .

1 Corinthians 9:13-14
Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the temple? and they which wait at the altar are partakers with the altar? Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel

Now some may say Paul didn't accept support . That's no big deal . He didn't accept support in Corinth because of their carnality . But he accepted support from some other churches . Same goes for pastors today . Most pastors serve voluntarily. They don't receive support . Over 9% of pastors in Deeper life ,Redeem ,CEC, winners are serving voluntarily. They have their own jobs . In fact one of the criterial by which you are sent out is to first have a good job . Except only few who may be required to serve full time and they may have to resign from their job. To get support from church . Church tithe is used to pay workers , church rent , maintainance , equipment ,projects , generator fuel. Chair hire etc and other expenditures. The pastor is not the owner of church money . Every ministry has structure by which money is handled . A pastor in redeem cannot dip his hand into church account . There are approvals from head quarters for expenditure. Not what bloggers online post who don't even go to church

We are not giving tithes as commanded under the law . Our tithing dates to Abraham before the law came . And that it why the other kinds of tithes were not emphasized . So daddy freeze only dwell on the feast party which is not abrahamic . And antitithers are jumping up that they have a hero (who is not even a Christian )

IamtherealRita:
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Prostitutes are far better than your generations

betterABIAstate:
you have been running from this questions, why didn't Jesus and his apostles collect tithe?

Please answer me

petra1:


He spoke against many things under the law but he didn't speak against tithe rather Jesus endorsed tithing .


Matthew 23:23
. . . .! For you are careful to tithe even the tiniest income from your herb gardens, but you ignore the more important aspects of the law—justice, mercy, and faith. You should tithe, yes, but do not neglect the more important things.

TheHotspur:


We don't argue with fools

betterABIAstate:
you have not answered my question, did Jesus practise tithing? If yes, show me where he did

If no, why?

petra1:


I will show you if you can show me where jesus brushed his mouth

BluntBoy:
Petra1, why are you avoiding my questions? Wasn't it you who said you tithe the Abraham way?
You tithe the Abraham way (without compulsion) but emphasize the curses of Malachi on those who are not tithing. Please, I need explanations.
Are the priesthood of your pastors the equal of that of Melchizedek?
Please, I need answers.

betterABIAstate:
you have not answered my question, did Jesus practise tithing? If yes, show me where he did
If no, why?

petra1:
I will show you if you can show me where Jesus brushed his mouth

betterABIAstate:
I don't know, now show me where Jesus tithed?

BluntBoy:
Petra1, why are you avoiding my questions? Wasn't it you who said you tithe the Abraham way?

You tithe the Abraham way (without compulsion) but emphasize the curses of Malachi on those who are not tithing. Please, I need explanations.

Are the priesthood of your pastors the equal of that of Melchizedek?

Please, I need answers.

petra1:


[]God brought about or introduced revelation of tithing through Abraham . And God trusted him to pass his knowledge of God to his generation.
It was from Isaac learned about tithing and passed it to Jacob



Jesus is our priest in the order of Melchizedek

petra1:


Matthew 5:22
but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

And Proverbs 26:4 says what

Please make it sure you quote what it says, at the end we know who you are

petra1:
God brought about or introduced revelation of tithing through Abraham.

petra1:
And God trusted him to pass his knowledge of God to his generation.
It was from Isaac learned about tithing and passed it to Jacob
Jesus is our priest in the order of Melchizedek

petra1:


[]God brought about or introduced revelation of tithing through Abraham . And God trusted him to pass his knowledge of God to his generation.
It was from Isaac learned about tithing and passed it to Jacob



Jesus is our priest in the order of Melchizedek

betterABIAstate:
Jesus was likened to Melchizedek, you have English problem. According to your Melchizedek story, we are suppose to tithe just once and from the proceed of a war

MuttleyLaff:

This thread isnt discussing brushing of mouth

petra1:

It's laughable when some who don't study their bibles feel there is a hidden conspiracy about tithing in the church which pastors have been covering up. Daddy freeze claims that the Bible. Command tithes to be uses to drink beer. Firstly that's is insult to God and stupid . But in truth there is a provision under the law to use a tithe for feast and eating .

THERE WERE THREE DIFFERENT KINDS OF TITHES

There were three different kinds of tithes in the Bible . Daddy freeze dwell on a minor one to rubbish the major one .

The three different types are as follows:

1. THE LEVITICAL TITHE (sacred to God).

Leviticus 27:30
And all the tithe of the land, whether of the seed of the land, or of the fruit of the tree, is the Lord's: it is holy unto the Lord

This tithe is used for the work of service in the place of worship and also for the welfare of the workers there.

Numbers 18:21-25
21 And, behold, I have given the Levites all the tithes in Israel for an inheritance in return for their service which they serve, the [menial] service of the Tent of Meeting.


2. THE TITHE OF THE FEAST (Deut. 14:22-27).(daddy freeze beer boozing tithe )
Deuteronomy 14:22-23
Thou shalt truly tithe all the increase of thy seed, that the field bringeth forth year by year. And thou shalt eat before the Lord thy God, in the place which he shall choose to place his name there, the tithe of thy corn, of thy wine, and of thine oil, and the firstlings of thy herds and of thy flocks; that thou mayest learn to fear the Lord thy God always.


3. THE TITHE FOR THE POOR (Deut. 14:28, 29). (Every 3 years)
This is done once in very 3 years . It is shared among the poor . While the main annual tithe still runs .

Deuteronomy 14:28-29
At the end of three years thou shalt bring forth all the tithe of thine increase the same year, and shalt lay it up within thy gates: And the Levite, (because he hath no part nor inheritance with thee,) and the stranger, and the fatherless, and the widow, which are within thy gates, shall come, and shall eat and be satisfied; that the Lord thy God may bless thee in all the work of thine hand which thou doest

The first tithe, the one we trace back to Abra­ham (Gen. 14:18-20), is the sacred tithe, given to the Levites and priests for their service to the temple and the congregation in the Old Testa­ment. This is the tithe we continue to give under the priesthood of Melchizedek in the New Testa­ment. It is the tithe consecrated to God and the furtherance of the gospel and has, therefore, validity for all believers in Christ.

Paul was clear enough .

1 Corinthians 9:13-14
Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the temple? and they which wait at the altar are partakers with the altar? Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel

Now some may say Paul didn't accept support . That's no big deal . He didn't accept support in Corinth because of their carnality . But he accepted support from some other churches . Same goes for pastors today . Most pastors serve voluntarily. They don't receive support . Over 9% of pastors in Deeper life ,Redeem ,CEC, winners are serving voluntarily. They have their own jobs . In fact one of the criterial by which you are sent out is to first have a good job . Except only few who may be required to serve full time and they may have to resign from their job. To get support from church . Church tithe is used to pay workers , church rent , maintainance , equipment ,projects , generator fuel. Chair hire etc and other expenditures. The pastor is not the owner of church money . Every ministry has structure by which money is handled . A pastor in redeem cannot dip his hand into church account . There are approvals from head quarters for expenditure. Not what bloggers online post who don't even go to church

We are not giving tithes as commanded under the law . Our tithing dates to Abraham before the law came . And that it why the other kinds of tithes were not emphasized . So daddy freeze only dwell on the feast party which is not abrahamic . And antitithers are jumping up that they have a hero (who is not even a Christian )

BluntBoy:


If God revealed tithing through Abraham, then you have to tithe the Abraham way.

How?

Look for someone who has been robbed (must not be a Christian), fight off those who robbed him, help him recover his goods and tithe out of the recovered goods. And you must tithe this only after the priest first brings out bread and wine and blesses you. The priest must also have a priesthood superior to that of any man.

However, you still haven't answered my major question:

If Abraham's tithes predate the Law, how come you justify Abraham's tithes using the Law?

petra1:


That’s only an incident. If a man could give tithe on even booty of war how much more from his belonging. Tithe is given of possession Did Jacob have to fight robbers to pay tithe ? He gave tithes of all. The issue is not about the “how but about the ”what”

Kenny4lyfe:


Good #SchoolThemOnTithe

Some individuals have always been allergic to this 'tithe' issue for so long a time and the freeze fellow who added his voice to the issue (sponsored probably) was a vanguard.

''Tithing is God's kingdom principle and it is eternal. It is not an old testament thing.''

Funny enough, these folks called themselves 'christians' smh... even muslems don't argue their zakat or other forms of giving like this.

petra1:


That’s only an incident. If a man could give tithe on even booty of war how much more from his belonging. Tithe is given of possession Did Jacob have to fight robbers to pay tithe ? He gave tithes of all. The issue is not about the “how but about the ”what”

BluntBoy:


Bible verses, please. When Paul taught the Berean Jews, they examined his teachings to see if they aligned with the gospel.

Now, provide us Bible verses supporting tithing as a principle of God's kingdom?

This threat is replete with them.

https://www.nairaland.com/4165669/tithes-offerings-eternal-principles

Kenny4lyfe:

BluntBoy:


Supporting those who minister either ministerially or materially are not principles of tithing but freewill giving.

I am not against freewill giving. I am against forced tithing. Any pastor who forces you to tithe by using the curses of the Law is a fraud. We are enjoined to give from our heart not to tithe under the Law.

If pastors get tithes, the choir and everyone laboring in the Church should get too. Everyone who labored in the temple of old benefited from the tithes. So, how come only pastors get tithes.

Kenny4lyfe:


If you are not against freewill giving why should tithing be a problem?


Can you please provide evidence of instances where Tithe were forced?