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Re: CBN Intervention Damaging Economy, Says Gusau by Nobody: 7:00pm On Apr 21, 2010
Except Gusau has a political ambition/agenda he shouldnt be making such controversial public comments. Last time i checked, his portfolio was 'NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER' to the Presidency and not minister for finance or Information&communication
Re: CBN Intervention Damaging Economy, Says Gusau by tkb417(m): 7:01pm On Apr 21, 2010
Beaf:

Sanusi Maijama, the president of the The Nigerian Association of Small-Scale Industrialists (NASSI) was on AIT recently, bitterly complaining about how Sanusi is killing off the small scale sector industrial in Nigeria with his agbero tactics. I wonder if it's just that Sanusi (being a mere bush man) does not see the leveling of industry in the name of "risk management" to be a concern, but Gusau, the National Security Adviser, very rightly does? Was Sanusi Maijama imagining things, when he basically called for Jonathan to wash Sanusi away?

Sanusi is just a bush man flailing for breath in a job that is beyong his marabout talents. Whereas, the National Security Adviser is a wily intelligence man of World renown. . . two poles apart.

While the argument rages, can someone prepare marshal music and a firing squad at bar beach? Let's fulfill one of Sanusi's dreams. grin
LOL!!!
Re: CBN Intervention Damaging Economy, Says Gusau by violent(m): 7:04pm On Apr 21, 2010
stealth01:

Except Gusau has a political ambition/agenda he shouldnt be making such controversial public comments. Last time i checked, his portfolio was 'NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER' to the Presidency and not minister for finance or Information&communication

I doubt if some folks here will still be able to see it that way.

They probably believe that as the NSA, he should have a say in issues concerning interest rates and deposit insurance.

They will never be able to understand that the office of the NSA functions differently from the office of the CBN governor and one has not been appointed to Boss the other
Re: CBN Intervention Damaging Economy, Says Gusau by naijaking1: 8:54pm On Apr 21, 2010
stealth01:

Except Gusau has a political ambition/agenda he shouldnt be making such controversial public comments. Last time i checked, his portfolio was 'NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER' to the Presidency and not minister for finance or Information&communication

We have gone through educating people like you that: yes, banking instability is a security issue.
Now, you want another series of lectures on how the NSA has information on just about everything in this country.
Unless you're the president or acting president, you probably don't know how far the tentacles from the NSA office can go, and you won't find out here on N/L.
The issue is not about the protfolio of the NSA, but whether Sanusi's crazy banking "revolution" is damaging our economy.
If it's true, then, why bother which government official speaks on the issue?
Re: CBN Intervention Damaging Economy, Says Gusau by SapeleGuy: 9:46pm On Apr 21, 2010
It is amazing that people on this site who can grasp complex economic theories refuse to come to terms with a joined up approach to risk and national resilience.

Any and everything that can bring a nation to its knees is a national security issue. The economy is definitely within the remit of the NSA.

The question is what will this govt do about the economic epidemic that is Sanusi?
Re: CBN Intervention Damaging Economy, Says Gusau by violent(m): 10:18pm On Apr 21, 2010
Any rational person will think security issues affects the economy and in most cases, not the other way round.

If the NSA can take care of security issues, including Kidnappings and riots, Niger Delta crisis, foreign investor's confidence might just be bolstered

It should be the CBN governor and other Economic advisers calling for the resignation of the NSA for making a mess of things and not the other way round.

It just baffles me that no matter how you try to educate people on the fact that its the toxic assets and bad debts accumulated by the banks that lead to job losses and not Sanusi, many will still never understand.
Sanusi did not give any instruction that banks should lay off workers, they did so because they realize how highly leveraged they were and the best route available to them is to lay of part of the fixed cost component of their balance sheets.

I bet if Sanusi had fold his arms and watched Intercontinental failed, many will still rush here to blame the dude for doing nothing. . . .wake up egg heads, he was protecting depositors money, and all he simply did was to sack the crooks that manage those positions and told the remaining bank chiefs to tidy their accounts!

How ironical to even think he was doing everything in his power to recover some of these bad loans that the CEO's have written off, and many still think he's the problem.

Those CEO's awarded loans worth of billions of naira to people without good credit history, it was even learnt that a CEO's housemaid managed to secure a loan of 13billion naira, and just because someone came up and shouted enough is enough, you were so quick to accuse him of so many things.

More bizarre is the fact that some egg-head who should rather focus his attention on pressing security of the state in a time when the country seem to be sitting on a keg of gunpowder with news and horror stories of riots, he'd instead choose to discuss how and how not banking reforms should be conducted, what the hell does he know about financial risk management?

Some half educated punk will probably come up to tell me "he's the NSA boss so he knows lots of stuffs about economics and finance" i'd say really?

Does the fact that being an NSA boss make him knowledgeable in all fields?

Should we expect the NSA boss to tell us how health ministry should be run as well. . . . cos in Nairalanders words "Health issues are related to security issues as well"

No one is even questioning why he made the statement in the first place, could it have been because he got some $$$ from Akingbola and Ibru?

I mean, if i got some $$$, i'd sure want to appear to be a good friend as well.

Lastly, if Sanusi was really that bad, how come he got international appraisal from bodies like the world bank and the IMF? . . . .of course, lemme guess, "its because Management of the World bank are really dumb and they don't know shít about finance, but the almighty NSA boss knows better"

Re: CBN Intervention Damaging Economy, Says Gusau by truly: 11:07pm On Apr 21, 2010
Beaf:

Sanusi Maijama, the president of the The Nigerian Association of Small-Scale Industrialists (NASSI) was on AIT recently, bitterly complaining about how Sanusi is killing off the small scale sector industrial in Nigeria with his agbero tactics. I wonder if it's just that Sanusi (being a mere bush man) does not see the leveling of industry in the name of "risk management" to be a concern, but Gusau, the National Security Adviser, very rightly does? Was Sanusi Maijama imagining things, when he basically called for Jonathan to wash Sanusi away?

Sanusi is just a bush man flailing for breath in a job that is beyong his marabout talents. Whereas, the National Security Adviser is a wily intelligence man of World renown. . . two poles apart.

While the argument rages, can someone prepare marshal music and a firing squad at bar beach? Let's fulfill one of Sanusi's dreams. grin
Sanusi answered this charge on Channels TV recently. In attendance were the Editorial Board Chairman of Business day Ogho Okiti (Phd Ecn) and another economist - Boyo - who had always criticised Sanusis.
At the end of the day, Sanusi appeared to have won them over

Sanusi produced statistics to show that banks were not even lending to SMEs before the crunch
How much of their SMEIES fund did they lend before the crisis? - pretty little
He says that is why CBN is coming up with targeted facilities to SMEs

Sanusi is not a saint
However he is more believable than Gusau
Being a politician, Gusau is more likely to play politics than Sanusi
Note that Gusau was the only person who did not withdraw his candidacy at PDP convention that would have
made a Yaradua a full consus candiate of the PDP

CBN controls monetary policy which delivers financial stability
With stability, fiscal policy can operate and grow the economy
Re: CBN Intervention Damaging Economy, Says Gusau by Ibime(m): 11:11pm On Apr 21, 2010
SapeleGuy:

It is amazing that people on this site who can grasp complex economic theories refuse to come to terms with a joined up approach to risk and national resilience.

We do expect a joined-up approach to National issues. What we wont accept is a mindless NSA faulting others out of ignorance. Gusau could have simply said that "economic problems threaten security" without giving us his limited and faulty economic analysis. . . . Lets get Gusau out of the way, and deal with the economic issues raised. . .


Beaf said that Sanusi is to blame for fall in lending and quoted our venerable Maijama of NASSI to that effect. . . . I wanna also ask if Ben Bernanke is responsible for the fastest decline in US bank lending in history. . . and I am talking 2010, not 2008. . . . this is what happens when we look at economic issues through a narrow lens. . .


Every instituion faces a trade off between liquidity and profitability. . . .liquidity requires keeping adequate capital to prevent cash flow problems and possible liquidation. . . whilst profitability (within context of banks) requires them to lend (release liquid capital) to make profits. . . .  if we look at our problems in 2009, we had a liquidity crisis. . . all the policies implemented (reduction of MPR - by both Soludo and Sanusi, introduction of EDW, reduction of NIBOR through blanket guarantee by CBN of the Interbank market. . . .  amongst other measures) were implemented to arrest a liquidity crisis and prevent cash flow problems taking banks under. . . . then a capital adequacy requirement of 10% (similar to Basel II requirements) was put in place to prevent the same risk repeating itself. . . this was how the liquidity problem was averted. . . and it was successful. . .


Just like in Yankee, this is a problem which has been building up over time, and even after arresting the liquidity crisis, analysts both home and abroad expect a slow easing of credit, not an immediate panacea . . . so all this shouting na yawa. . .


Apart from natural cautiousness on the part of banks to prevent repeating their old mistakes, some of the fiscal measures taken to both treat liquidity crisis and prevent future scenarios also work to disincentivise lending. . . these include anything from capital adequacy requirements, widening (and expected tightening later) of interest-rate spreads, low interbank rates etc. . .like they say in economics, every economic medicine has side-effects which also need to be treated. . .  whilst Bernanke for example would like to address the fall in lending immediately, he is aware that any attempt to reverse some of these policies could lead to further-capital erosion and a return to liquidity problems. . . so na jeje im go do am. . . .

Economic policy is a balancing act. . . those who accused Sanusi of killing the stockmarket in 2009 have now changed focus to credit-tightening in 2010 in light of 36% increase in the NSE. . . paradoxically, a lot of the growth in the stockmarket is being driven by bank funds that could otherwise have been lent to the economy. . . this is true both in Nigeria and Western markets. . .and will continue to be so as banks prefer to keep liquid capital more than ever in light of their recent liquidity problems.
Re: CBN Intervention Damaging Economy, Says Gusau by 4Play(m): 11:33pm On Apr 21, 2010
The contraction in credit to the private sector is as a result of banks rebuilding their balance sheet which was severely damaged during the faux boom of the Soludo era. Because the contraction followed Sanusi's actions, people automatically assume that he is responsible for it. I guess it's the kind of reasoning that led people to associate sunshine with malaria.
Re: CBN Intervention Damaging Economy, Says Gusau by violent(m): 11:47pm On Apr 21, 2010
4 Play:

The contraction in credit to the private sector is as a result of banks rebuilding their balance sheet which was severely damaged during the faux boom of the Soludo era. Because the contraction followed Sanusi's actions, people automatically assume that he is responsible for it. I guess it's the kind of reasoning that led people to associate sunshine with malaria.

Now this got me really laughing hard!
Re: CBN Intervention Damaging Economy, Says Gusau by Nobody: 1:25am On Apr 22, 2010
[size=18pt]Bank Reforms crippling Real Estate sector, says REDAN[/size]
From Nkechi Onyedika, Abuja
THE Real Estate Developers Association of Nigeria, REDAN, yesterday said that the on-going reforms in the banking industry have grounded developmental activities in the real estate sector in the country.

The National President of REDAN, Chief Olabode Afolayan, who disclosed this when members of the association paid a courtesy call on the Minister of Land, Housing and Urban Development, Hon Isiegu Essien, in Abuja, regretted that the present reforms have weakened abilities of banks to provide essential services, especially the real estate which requires huge capital injection.

He said: Sincerely, we had looked at the banking reform as a thing that would open up lots of opportunities for investors in the real estate sector, but honestly, in the last couple months, it has been a very unfortunate situation. The Banks have not impacted on the real estate sector in the last say six months. They have not been able to give funding. Even the bank guaranty they used to give in the past has also stopped. When the reform was put in place, we had thought it would be a holistic approach at reforming all sectors of the economy.

"But since it began, no meaningful service could be gotten from banks any more. The banks are now struggling to be in business, they are not investing any money. The reform has weakened abilities of the bank to provide essential services. Now, this has huge implication on the economy. The real estate sector is not just crippled; it is destroyed by this singular non-performance of these banks.

"When you mention reform, we had expected that there should have been cushion effects on the economy. The short and long term effects of such reform ought to have been envisaged. I mean, for almost six months no single transaction in the real estate, tell me for how long will one has to wait.

Afolayan, who urged the Minister to come to the aid of developers in the country by tackling perennial problems facing the sector, also called on Essien to use his influence as a former honorable to fast-track the passage of the land reform before the National Assembly.

While soliciting for the minister's support in making opening up opportunities for accessing long-term loans in the country, he said: "How developers can enjoy same policies with their counter-parts abroad. Like in abroad special long term fund are created for the real estate sector, such is not here. Our suggestion is that long-term Funds like the Pension fund could be channeled in delivery houses in the country. We urge the minister to look at such possibility.

"Expedite the completion of the land use act in the NASS. We are appealing to state government to provide land so that developers across the federation can have adequate access to land. We urge the federal government to shove-up provision of infrastructure so as to enable developers build their house with ease.

"Hydrafone technology concept of building houses should be encouraged in the country because these are the last technology use in advance country. No plastering, it requires very little cement, and houses can be built in say two days.

In his response, the minster, who applauded REDAN for being the first body to officially pay him a visit since the ministry began operation 10 days ago, assured the team of his preparedness to work the association.

"The ministry is about 10 days old, and you are the first set of people we are receiving. For many years, Nigeria has not provided house for her teaming population, especially the low income earners. We could recall that the last time such houses were built was during the Shagari administration in 1983. What has been happening since then is that houses have been provided for the luxury group and not the social group that is why we have said that we intend to embark upon massive provision of houses. In the next 10 months, 54,000 houses would be provided in all senatorial district across the federation."


http://nigeriamasterweb.com/paperfrmes.html
Re: CBN Intervention Damaging Economy, Says Gusau by naijaking1: 1:53am On Apr 22, 2010
^^^
Very soon one of these Sanusi's analysts will dig up some offensive information about Chief Afolayan, and infact tell us why he's not qualified to say those "things"
Re: CBN Intervention Damaging Economy, Says Gusau by violent(m): 2:20am On Apr 22, 2010
[size=18pt]IMF Backs Sanusi’s Banking Reforms[/size]
By Ayodele Aminu, 09.16.2009

The International Monetary Fund (IMF) has endorsed the ongoing banking reforms by the Central Bank of Nigeria (CBN) Governor Sanusi Lamido Sanusi, which necessitated the removal of the Chief Executive Officers of five banks last month.

The endorsement came yesterday in Abuja from the fund’s country Chief and Represen-tative in Nigeria, David Nellor.

THISDAY learnt that the endorsement was a fallout of the meetings the IMF delegation from Washington D.C, United States of America,  held with top officials of the CBN, which threw more light on the banking reforms.

CBN had on August 14 sacked the managements of five banks – Afribank, FinBank, Intercontinental Bank, Oceanic Bank and Union Bank – over the huge non-performing loans of their banks and other alleged financial abuses.

The apex bank injected N420 billion into them, saying lax governance had left the five banks dangerously undercapitalised.

Thereafter, it appointed new helmsmen (John Aboh (Oceanic Bank), Lai Alabi (Intercontinental Bank), Susanne Iroche (FinBank), Nebolisa Arah (Afribank) and Funke Osibodu (Union Bank) into these institutions to stabilise and make them attractive for core investors.

Nellor, in a statement made available to THISDAY in Lagos, said he "endorses the CBN’s intervention in some banks as essential to building a sound financial sector that can promote long term growth and development consistent with the goals being set for the Vision 2020.”

He added: “A core principle of an effective banking system is public trust - trust that deposits will be safe, trust that banks allocate financial resources to productive activities, and trust that banks will manage risk. Underlying this trust is a public expectation that sound governance practices are employed in the banking system. These fundamental tenets enable the banking system to promote sound economic growth and development. To that end, the central bank as regulator has the responsibility to ensure that the principles of banking enshrined in legislation and the CBN’s mandate are preserved.”

Like many countries during the crisis, the CBN, according to the IMF representative, followed a systematic process of examining the banks.

“Special examinations of bank balance sheets by the CBN and NDIC were launched. The purpose of the examinations was to verify asset quality and examine related party transactions. This process is and should continue to be conducted for all banks in the system.

“Based on the findings of these initial examinations, the CBN appropriately required additional provisioning in all banks and in others it was essential for it to intervene by replacing management and injecting funds into the bank balance sheets. In the latter cases, various combinations of severe loan delinquency, undercapitalisation, systematic liquidity shortfalls, and serious governance problems justify such action based on the mandate given the central bank,” Nellor said.

Consequently, he said, the fund is in support of the CBN’s public commitment to protect depositors and creditors.

Nellor said the immediate goals were to stabilise the banks, seek full recapitalisation through loan recovery and new investors, and strengthen the corporate governance and credit practices in the banks.

“Over time these actions should enable the central bank to remove itself from both the management and balance sheets of the banks in a manner consistent with financial stability,” he said.

http://www.thisdayonline.com/nview.php?id=154608
Re: CBN Intervention Damaging Economy, Says Gusau by violent(m): 2:22am On Apr 22, 2010
Are we saying those guys at the IMF are dumb or lemme guess, the usual excuse, the probably have a nothern agenda as well
Re: CBN Intervention Damaging Economy, Says Gusau by Nobody: 2:24am On Apr 22, 2010
Violent

Your IMF Backing was on 16 September 2009. We are in April 2010 and Nigerians are directly feeling the pinch of Sanusi's anti-growth policies and you are still quoting IMF assessment last year?
Re: CBN Intervention Damaging Economy, Says Gusau by Nobody: 2:26am On Apr 22, 2010
naijaking1:

^^^
Very soon one of these Sanusi's analysts will dig up some offensive information about Chief Afolayan, and infact tell us why he's not qualified to say those "things"

It is so easy to be a cheap messiah in Nigeria. All you need to do is tough talk and they will believe anything you say hook, line and sinker without assessing the merits of your arguments or actions.
Re: CBN Intervention Damaging Economy, Says Gusau by violent(m): 2:52am On Apr 22, 2010
mikeansy:

Violent

Your IMF Backing was on 16 September 2009. We are in April 2010 and Nigerians are directly feeling the pinch of Sanusi's anti-growth policies and you are still quoting IMF assessment last year?

The fact that it was September last year does not make it any less invalid, are you by any means saying those guys were drunk when they were saying those things?

Nigerians are feeling it, that's right, Sanusi didn't promise a smooth sail, all he promised was a better one in the end, if you want the rainbow, you have to put up with the rain.

Nigeria is not the only country to suffer the effects credit squeeze and job losses.

i really still find it hard to comprehend people's thinking in this regard. . . like someone rightly pointed out, folks are just looking for someone to blame, and in their dull minded state, rather than blame the individuals who made the rot degenerate thus far, they'd blame the one who came to put it right!

And what exactly, pray tell is anti growth about his policies?

The fact that the CEOs were sacked?
Re: CBN Intervention Damaging Economy, Says Gusau by Nobody: 3:22am On Apr 22, 2010
Violent

I can see you like speaking english for the sake of it. A real estate professional has said that investors in the real estate sector are unable to get Bank support to do Business and you are asking what is anti growth? (see report about REDAN above)

Businessmen in all sector of the economy are in slow motion because Banks are no longer playing their traditional intermediation role and you are asking me what is anti-growth. lending to small businesses has been criminalised and you are asking me what is anti-growth? (Dangote paid off his debts in Nigeria and went to borrow from South Africa the next week)

IMF has a history of backing reforms when they start for the first time and when the plans fall within the guidelines of IMF framework. But they deny you for lack of proper implementation when the policies go wrong.
The IMF is deeply controlled by the US Government and Governments who refuse to modify the advice they get from IMF and tailor it to their perculiar needs usually comes short. This is where Sanusi is failing.

And yes between September 2009 and April 2010 is a very long time in the dynamics of any Nation's economy expecially at this time when the world economy is very turbulent.
And trust me if Sanusi is sacked today and a new CBN Governor is appointed, IMF will also have some new kind words for whoever is appointed. It is called International Diplomacy in order to build a good working relationship.

IMF only has negative words for any Government when things are obviously out of hand.

We don't want to wait for things to get out of hand before we call Sanusi to order or get him to resign.
Re: CBN Intervention Damaging Economy, Says Gusau by Nobody: 3:28am On Apr 22, 2010
Can I also tell you why you will never get it?

You think Sanusi is a saint and everyone else is a thief.

Get rid of that mentality and you will realise the world is a lot deeper than you think it is.
Re: CBN Intervention Damaging Economy, Says Gusau by Ibime(m): 4:28am On Apr 22, 2010
mikeansy:

http://nigeriamasterweb.com/paperfrmes.html

Why do you like repeating yourself like a broken clock? I am noticing a trend when any Sanusi-hater is challenged with facts on here, they go and produce another accusation instead of backing their initial argument. Since only one man called Sanusi is responsible for 100 different crimes against the financial system, I can only assume that irrational hatred is driving all these spurious allegations. I am still waiting for you to tell me how I should categorise Ben Bernanke vis-a-vis credit tightening in the US.  . . or even addres any of the other points raised.

Having already established a credit tightening in the Nigerian economy (and world economy) as a whole, what credit should I give you for pulling out quotes from different subsectors of the economy? Whats next. . . are you going to pull out a quote from the Snail Sellers Association of Nigeria telling us they have malaria because they have been in the sunshine too long?


Now you want us to take economic advice from someone who wants us to believe that he "can build a house in 2 days". . . . he must be talking about zinc house. . . cos I dont even think a foundation will set in 2 days.  grin grin grin


Next time you wanna educate us, please produce a link like this. . . http://www.businessdayonline.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=9991:getting-to-grips-with-nigeria-gdp-&catid=117:news&Itemid=349. . . not all these comments from the economic equivalent of Alaba market traders.



And BTW, since you believe IMF backing of reforms is too long ago, I wonder what you have to say about Okonjo-Iwealas backing just two weeks ago. . . . or many of the other comments by seasoned observers and international investors and analysts, none of which I deem worthy to provide for you as often as you provide quotes from Alaba market traders.  tongue
Re: CBN Intervention Damaging Economy, Says Gusau by Nobody: 5:08am On Apr 22, 2010
For those who think economics should begin and end with all IMF agrees with see example of how IMF largely backs US agenda first before anything else. At a time the US is bitterly protesting the value of Chinese currency which gives them export advantages  see IMF's proposition to China.

Will the Chinese reserve Bank listen to IMF first before what they think will further their economic interests? Sanusi is not experienced enough to know when not to agree with his economics textbooks. Too much emphasis on risk management in an economy like ours is stiffling growth.

IMF backs stronger Chinese currency as Asia powers ahead
(AFP) – 14 hours ago

WASHINGTON — A stronger yuan is "essential" for both the Chinese and world economies, the IMF said Wednesday as it projected breakneck growth for China and a powerful post-crisis bounce across Asia.

The International Monetary Fund said the Chinese yuan was "substantially" undervalued, heaping more pressure on Beijing to allow the currency to strengthen to help rebalance skewed world trade.

The IMF's latest global report projected that gross domestic product in China, which is set to overhaul Japan this year to become Asia's biggest economy, would rocket by 10 percent in 2010 and 9.9 percent in 2011.

But a yuan adjustment would help China tackle "excess demand pressures," the IMF said in an apparent reference to the threat of rising inflation, and give other emerging economies confidence to let their own currencies strengthen.

"This is essential for China given its large role in the global market," the Washington-based Fund said.

"Greater currency adjustment in Asia would facilitate adjustment in other emerging economies that may fear losing market share if their currencies were to appreciate alone."

The yuan has been effectively pegged to about 6.8 to the dollar since mid-2008. Speculation is growing that Beijing may soon alter its exchange rate policy, as a US-led clamor for change intensifies.

Critics, including a growing number in Asia as well as the United States and Europe, say an undervalued yuan gives Chinese manufacturers an unfair advantage by making their exports cheaper.

As a whole, according to the IMF, Asian economies will expand an average 6.9 percent this year and 7.0 percent in 2011, boosted by both domestic demand and foreign trade.

But it urged regional governments to plan an orderly exit from stimulus policies that helped them weather the global downturn far better than the United States or Europe.

Japan's moribund economy will return to growth of 1.9 percent this year but persistent deflation, weak domestic demand and a stagnant employment picture threaten a fragile recovery, the report said.

Fretting about the risk of contagion from Greece, the IMF cautioned that Japan would in time have to tackle its public debt, which at nearly 200 percent of GDP is the highest in the industrialized world.

India should grow by 8.8 percent this year, the report said, but has "less fiscal room for maneuver" than China and needs to trim its swollen public sector and debt.

Southeast Asia's five biggest developing economies were seen expanding 5.4 percent in 2010.

Australia's resource-driven economy should strengthen 3.0 percent this year, helped by voracious demand for minerals and other commodities to sate Chinese industry's appetite for raw materials.

The IMF's China growth forecast was well above the 8.7 percent growth in 2009 and Beijing's own annual target of eight percent, seen as the minimum needed to create enough jobs in the massive nation to prevent unrest.

Export-led China is seeking to reduce its dependence on overseas shipments and government-backed investment by pumping up domestic spending. The IMF said Asia in general had to shift off its historical dependence on exports.

The Fund cautioned Asian governments against asset bubbles and floods of speculative money that could derail growth, as Western investors seek higher returns and froth builds up in property markets in China and elsewhere.

"For policymakers in Asia's export-driven economies, who now face the prospect of weaker external demand conditions, a key challenge is to effect a durable rebalancing toward domestic sources of growth," it said.

"With regard to monetary policy, it may not be too early to start unwinding the stimulus if output gaps are closing and inflation pressures are beginning to emerge."


http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gZCMmH_bK9L6zErEuFWEz5geqPnA

I don't hate Sanusi, I just believe the guy has no clue what he is doing.
Re: CBN Intervention Damaging Economy, Says Gusau by naijaking1: 5:54am On Apr 22, 2010
Ibime:

Why do you like repeating yourself like a broken clock? I am noticing a trend when any Sanusi-hater is challenged with facts on here, they go and produce another accusation instead of backing their initial argument. Since only one man called Sanusi is responsible for 100 different crimes against the financial system, I can only assume that irrational hatred is driving all these spurious allegations. I am still waiting for you to tell me how I should categorise Ben Bernanke vis-a-vis credit tightening in the US. . . or even addres any of the other points raised.
Beating about the bush!

Having already established a credit tightening in the Nigerian economy (and world economy) as a whole, what credit should I give you for pulling out quotes from different subsectors of the economy? Whats next. . . are you going to pull out a quote from the Snail Sellers Association of Nigeria telling us they have malaria because they have been in the sunshine too long?
These quotes were asked for by you guys as proof that the economy is going sour, now you seem irritated by the truth in these articles sad


Now you want us to take economic advice from someone who wants us to believe that he "can build a house in 2 days". . . . he must be talking about zinc house. . . cos I dont even think a foundation will set in 2 days. grin grin grin

I beg my brother, quit making a fool of yourself embarassed.
Did you even try to research what the man was saying before condenming him? Though he's not Jesus Christ who promised to rebuild the temple in 7 days, but truely, truely modern houses are built in a matter of hours not even days. I have watched a brand new house spring up in my neighborhood from 8am (at the start of normal work day), and was roofed and completed by 4pm using perfectly pre-fabricated materials brought in by 2 trailers. And before you change this thread into housing construction technology(I know you will that), just remember that Chief Afolayan's point was that the banks are not lending out money.


Next time you wanna educate us, please produce a link like this. . . http://www.businessdayonline.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=9991:getting-to-grips-with-nigeria-gdp-&catid=117:news&Itemid=349. . . not all these comments from the economic equivalent of Alaba market traders.
And BTW, since you believe IMF backing of reforms is too long ago, I wonder what you have to say about Okonjo-Iwealas backing just two weeks ago. . . . or many of the other comments by seasoned observers and international investors and analysts, none of which I deem worthy to provide for you as often as you provide quotes from Alaba market traders. tongue
Okonjo-Iweala's comment was not a positive for Sanusi, it was a soft landing. Go read it again, this time, pay more attention to the lines. She was minister of finance during Soludo, and if you think she would come out shouting invectives like Sanusi does, then you too probably doesn't understand the nuancess of diplomatic, but non-supportive talk.
Re: CBN Intervention Damaging Economy, Says Gusau by mbulela: 6:56am On Apr 22, 2010
Why is Gusau making noise in public?
He should get SLS sacked and coopt the reserve bank governorship duties into his NSA duties.
silly,sick old men.
In his books, you only catch a thief when and if he is a pioneer and a monopolist thief.
since Ibru and Akingbola are not the only thieves,lets leave them until we can catch all of them at the same time?
All these simplistic silly comments of persons who think slaying SLS in public is a fun sport is mind baffling.

I am no fan of SLS but if anyone thinks that the removal of Ibru et al is a the reason for any percieved economic problem, the person needs the person must have built a house on sand cos this foundation ain't all that at all.

Gusau should remain in the background where he remains 'most effective' and if he wants to be seen as been relevant by the common man,he should use his security skills to address the criminality masqurading as militancy in the ND and the grwoing trend of terrorism in the country.
He should stop exposing his biased and unschooled mind on issues that do not border on seedy security matters.
Re: CBN Intervention Damaging Economy, Says Gusau by Nobody: 7:17am On Apr 22, 2010
mikeansy:

For those who think economics should begin and end with all IMF agrees with see example of how IMF largely backs US agenda first before anything else. At a time the US is bitterly protesting the value of Chinese currency which gives them export advantages  see IMF's proposition to China.

Will the Chinese reserve Bank listen to IMF first before what they think will further their economic interests? Sanusi is not experienced enough to know when not to agree with his economics textbooks. Too much emphasis on risk management in an economy like ours is stiffling growth.



talking about china? ibru and co would have faced firing squad long since
Re: CBN Intervention Damaging Economy, Says Gusau by odedele: 8:55am On Apr 22, 2010
Sanusi has consistently threatened shareholders that he would liquidate the eight banks taken over by the CBN if they refused to allow him sell them.
It was appalling that the CBN had resorted to this desperate tactics in a bid to force genuine shareholders to sign off their legitimate holdings in the banks he forcefully took over.

It was a sign of the weak argument of the CBN that these taken-over banks are dead, which is why he cannot convince shareholders to part with these banks he claims were dead. What the shareholders were asking for was their right, the right to recapitalize their banks, if the CBN claims that they are undercapitalized. This right is inalienable and no manner of threat from the CBN will make shareholders give up this right.

“If these banks are this bad, why is the CBN trying to sell them, why have they lined up a bevy of willing buyers for banks that are supposedly dead? Shareholders will not allow the CBN to take over what the CBN did not set up. The CBN’s role is to regulate banks, not to manage banks and definitely not to sell banks it does not own.
Re: CBN Intervention Damaging Economy, Says Gusau by tkb417(m): 9:10am On Apr 22, 2010
I can see you like speaking english for the sake of it. A real estate professional has said that investors in the real estate sector are unable to get Bank support to do Business and you are asking what is anti growth? (see report about REDAN above)
Now i want to end this once and for all

Let me explain in simple english

The Banks do not have money and will not lend until they grow healthy

The banks presently are trying to recover the trapped funds just like the one with Ibori, Gusau and others published in the papers
If this is what Sanusi has done wrong, then i cant help you

in simple terms, the banks were gonna go bust if Sanusi didnt do what he did so quit making noise about the banks not lending

it may interest you to know GTBank, Diamond Bank, FBN are still giving out money
And talking about Real Estate, my unit raised the sum of 2 billion bridge loan facility for one big real estate guru in Badore lekki

maybe i shd give you a clue, the man is a retired General (dig up and drive to the site in Abijo and ask the guys in there)
They got the money through FBN

so oga sharrap
Re: CBN Intervention Damaging Economy, Says Gusau by tkb417(m): 9:15am On Apr 22, 2010
The contraction in credit to the private sector is as a result of banks rebuilding their balance sheet which was severely damaged during the faux boom of the Soludo era. Because the contraction followed Sanusi's actions, people automatically assume that he is responsible for it. I guess it's the kind of reasoning that led people to associate sunshine with malaria.

LOL!!!

well said

oyb:

talking about china? ibru and co would have faced firing squad long since
LOL
some of these guys in here shared in the loot. . . now that things dont look good, all of them are shouting nail him on the cross
LOL. This story reminds me of Jesus Christ

hehehehe
Sanusi is going nowhere, all you crooks will go to jail in Jesus name
amen grin grin grin grin
Re: CBN Intervention Damaging Economy, Says Gusau by mbulela: 10:21am On Apr 22, 2010
^^^^^^^^^^^
and all the people say, AMEN!!!!!
Re: CBN Intervention Damaging Economy, Says Gusau by naijaking1: 10:41am On Apr 22, 2010
mbulela:

Why is Gusau making noise in public?
He should get SLS sacked and coopt the reserve bank governorship duties into his NSA duties.
silly,sick old men.
In his books, you only catch a thief when and if he is a pioneer and a monopolist thief.
since Ibru and Akingbola are not the only thieves,lets leave them until we can catch all of them at the same time?
All these simplistic silly comments of persons who think slaying SLS in public is a fun sport is mind baffling.

I am no fan of SLS but if anyone thinks that the removal of Ibru et al is a the reason for any percieved economic problem, the person needs the person must have built a house on sand cos this foundation ain't all that at all.

Gusau should remain in the background where he remains 'most effective' and if he wants to be seen as been relevant by the common man,he should use his security skills to address the criminality masqurading as militancy in the ND and the grwoing trend of terrorism in the country.
He should stop exposing his biased and unschooled mind on issues that do not border on seedy security matters.

If you wanted us to take you seriously, you could have at least started with a true statement. You're one of the biggest, loudest, and "blindest" supporters of Sanusi. You just forgot to read your own posts.
Re: CBN Intervention Damaging Economy, Says Gusau by tkb417(m): 11:11am On Apr 22, 2010
is he my father or why should i be interested in him?

i only admire his guts and his work

in this country where mediocrity, laziness, corruption, nepotism, jingoism, flagrant abuse of the rule of law are the norm, then Sanusi shd be praised

only God knows what would have happened to ma life savings if Erastus was allowed to continue stealing

only God knows. . . . but here i am still thanking God

Sanusi continue your work; Gusau will soon start making pronouncements on the ailing education sector as it engenders insecurity in the country
what a troglodyte!!!!
Re: CBN Intervention Damaging Economy, Says Gusau by tkb417(m): 11:18am On Apr 22, 2010
If these banks are this bad, why is the CBN trying to sell them, why have they lined up a bevy of willing buyers for banks that are supposedly dead? Shareholders will not allow the CBN to take over what the CBN did not set up. The CBN’s role is to regulate banks, not to manage banks and definitely not to sell banks it does not own.

hi odedele

this your last line got me thinking. . . brought it up with one of my bosses who dislikes sanusi with passion
The constant thing in his outbursts is always this your last line

maybe Biina and Violent can give their thoughts on the part emboldened
Re: CBN Intervention Damaging Economy, Says Gusau by ud4u: 2:04pm On Apr 22, 2010
I keep on saying that Sanusi has done more harm than good.

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