Hairyrapunzel:


Pass my level ke? Should I answer what's not in the Bible in the first place? I no fit laugh.


You thought of something and assumed it in your mind then asked it as a question. I can't disturb my brain over an argument from silence.

This brainless fellow again . that was how you are making mouth the other time and when asked to give link, you dissapear .

Okay explain this two statement, since u think am assuming

1. Hell deliver the dead in it.

2. Sea deliver the dead in it .

Either

Hell=Sea

Or Hell is different from sea

Am waiting

Primesky:

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Mr. Twister!. Stop behaving like you haven't been schooled about the subject. By the Help of the Holy Spirit, I educated you on the mystery, but as usual, instead of accepting it, you waved it aside as nonsense, and still maintain your ignorant posture.

When the sea and hell gave up their dead, where did they go?.

According to you and watch tower, when a man dies, everything about him is gone, his body rots away. For those who died in the sea, fish and crab would have eaten their flesh, so what is actually rising?.

You people always latch on a verse of scripture to perpetuate lies and false teaching.

[/s]

you didn't answer the question I asked.

Have asked again, Try to answer or E pass your level ?

Tell us why Jesus Christ warned about hell and mentioned fire, and also said it's unquenchable?.
Don't twist it o.

Yeshua never pronounced hell, he pronounced Gehinna or valley of hinnom ( Check and confirm before you rant because I know you are too lazy to research ) dead bodies are dumped there not mythical souls

Deuteronomy 32:22 For a fire is kindled in mine anger, and shall burn unto the lowest hell, and shall consume the earth with her increase, and set on fire the foundations of the mountains.


You said hell is grave, so according to the above scripture, does grave have a lowest and upper level. In this part of the world, we dig up to 6feets, is that the lowest hell?.

You are too d.ull . so am the one that said hell is grave or YOuR BIBLE confirm it.

New Living Translation reads

For my anger blazes forth like fire and burns to the depths of the GRAVE It devours the earth and all its crops and ignites the foundations of the mountains. (emphasis mine). Deu 32:22

Hell is Grave , Are you wiser than your bible?

Can you now see why I said you are too d.ull

Matthew 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

Mark 9:43 And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell , into the fire that never shall be quenched:

Mark 9:47 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell ^Gehenna fire:

James 3:6 And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity: so is the tongue among our members, that it defileth the whole body, and setteth on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire of hell.

So tell us, is the fire attached to hell in the above verses a figure of speech, what figure of speech is hell fire?.

Fixed! Gehenna ( dead bodies are thrown there not mythical souls ) expressions like " hands" " two hands " are reffering to the Body, his listeners understand .

Do you agree hands and Body goes to hell ?

Again I ask you, after the death of Jesus Christ, he was buried. So how come a dead and buried person will also be preaching to spirits in prison?.

1 Peter 3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:

3:19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;

3:20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.


Please be honorable enough to tell us what verse 20 is talking about. Whose spirits is that passage talking about that Jesus Christ went to preach to, and where?.

Lazinesss is affecting you. He went to preach after he was quickened, to be quickened means to be Made Alive. So STOP lying he was preaching when he died. It was after he was Made Alive .

Before you rant, make sure you confirm and verify the meaning of quickened used here. Shiooor

See how Laziness to research has blinded you.

As for the spirits he preached to, answer my first question on those inside the sea , We will know if the expression ' those disobedient in Noahs day , refer to dead humans in prison OF HELL' as you will want us to believe. Can those who died in water of Noah, be said to be in the Sea or hell ?

Jewish account of Noah's flood says Some Angels come to earth, interestingly the same Jewish scripture says Angels are spirits ( who maketh his angels SPIRIT as written in Psalm 104 vs 24) definitely, after your answer to my question , we would know if this are the ones he preached to or not.
Vital

Don't mind them. God, allowing the thing it created to burn in fire! Is it rubbish?

Some think God is bitter and twisted like them.

Restroom:
For thousands of years now, many have been led to believe in the doctrine of hell fire.

Biblically, this teaching has no basis.
Some invoke the expression recorded in Revelation
21:8 and Rev 19:20, I.e. the 'lake of fire' or 'lake that burns with sulfur'as evidence of hell fire.

Others point to Jesus parable about the rich man and Lazarus, recorded in Luke 16:19-31.

While these Bible verses speak of punishment in fire, they are not to be taken literally.

The language in which the Book of Revelation was written, were all symbolic. Also, the story of the Rich man and Lazarus, was an illustration directed at the proud pharisees, who believed they were favoured before God. Jesus used the illustration to let the pharisees realized that, things have changed for the ordinary Israelites, with the arrival of the messiah. God stopped using the pharisees to teach the Jews the law, with the coming of Jesus Christ .With the presence of Gods son teaching the Jews directly about God, the spiritual condition of the Jews became elevated while the Pharisees were debased. Seeing the changed condition of the jews, and the judgment message of Jesus against the Pharisees, they became enraged at Jesus.

Interestingly, Jesus Christ ended the role of the Pharisees as teachers of the law, when he established Christianity.Since the birth of the Christian congregation, the ordinary Jews and later the Gentiles, became opportuned to worship God freely.

Yet, as simple as the illustration of the rich man and pharisees were, the religions of today have latched on to it, as proof that hell fire existed. The Pharisees that Jesus directed the message to knew that Jesus was talking to them. They knew the meaning that, spiritually speaking, their position as teachers of the law had changed forever with Jesus presence. And that the common man they looked down upon is now favoured with the previlegde of been taught the way of Christ, which opens to them the direct opportunity of communicating with God.

Hence, to those who misconstrue, the parable of the rich man and Lazarus as proof of hell fire, it is good to read that account again, to get the import of the parable.

According to first John 4:8, God is Love.

Can a God of love burn his sinning creatures in fire?

What do you think?

To answer it clearly, think about yourself for a moment. Can you burn your child in fire for sinning or doing something you forbid?

Can you ?
Well, I can't.

As a human, how many of us even think about using fire as a possible means to punish criminals?

Few, if any.
How many human government burn criminals alive?

None!
If humans in General Dont do it, why do people now want God to do it?
If human government Dont burn criminals in fire, is it God that we now burn his own creature in everlasting fire?

God is love.
If humans, Dont do it, God can't do it.
We are made in God s image, remember.
If you can't do it, because it looks unjust, then, God cannot do it.

Also, there is no record in the Genesis account of creation, of how God created Hellfire and where it is located.Where is hellfire located ?Who created it? Where is evidence that God created it? The bible recorded how God created everything, including the sun, moon and stars.How come it is silent about hellfire?

Now God told Adam, that if he sins against him, he would go back to the dust.Because he created him from the dust. Now if Adam returned to the dust as God told him, how come his children go the hell fire as popularly claimed by churches of today?

God specifically told Adam in Genesis 3:19- For dust you are, and to dust, you will return.

But churches now say, for dust you are and to hellfire you will return.

Can God lie?

Who knows better, God or churches?

Where do we go at death?

Is Adam in hell fire?
Which hell fire?

According to God is statement to Adam, at death, he returned to dust, to a state of none existence.

Adam was none existent before God created him.

At death, he returned to that state signified by dust.

But churches say no. We do not die. We continue to live but in hell fire.
So a lot of people end up believing the big lie that hell fire exist .

God cannot lie.Satan is the only one that can burn sinners in hellfire, an imaginary place he has created to paint God as a wicked person who can debase his human creation by burning the sinners amongst them in hell fire.

Now, did God burn Adam in hell fire after he sinned, and became the first sinner on earth?

What's your answer?

If Adam didn't go to hell fire, as the first sinner, does it make sense to believe that his children and all sinners are in hell fire?

Peacefullove:


This brainless fellow again . that was how you are making mouth the other time and when asked to give link, you dissapear .

Okay explain this two statement, since u think am assuming

1. Hell deliver the dead in it.

2. Sea deliver the dead in it .

Either

Hell=Sea

Or Hell is different from sea

Am waiting

Let me ask the questions again.

Show us the Bible verse that said those who died at sea do not go to hell?


Then if the Bible passage isn't there what's the rationale behind saying those who died at sea do not go to hell?


So there is no bible passage that said those who died at sea don't go to hell abi?

You just assumed because Bible didn't say anything about it right?


You have been calling me brainless fellow yet you can't show me the Bible verse that says those who died at sea do not go to hell


Instead you have been adding to the Bible verse forming question that's not in the Bible


I AM STILL WAITING FOR THE BIBLE VERSE THAT SAYS THOSE WHO DIED AT SEA DO NOT GO TO HELL

budaatum:
Don't mind them. God, allowing the thing it created to burn in fire! Is it rubbish?

Some think God is bitter and twisted like them.

The jehovah that is not twisted and all loving says he will slaughter 8 billion people for not joining the publishing company/coporation called watchtower organization and obeying the ever changing Bible interpretation of self appointed 8 old men in new York who call themselves governing body/faithful and discrete slave and also say they are the only channel of communication between God and man today so 8 million Jw can inherit earth and live forever in it because their leaders told them so.


Your God is so all loving yet he can't wait to commit the greatest genocide ever known to man. Clap for yourselves and your jehovah.
Pot Calling kettle black

That guy is mentally insane .budaatum abeg no follow am talk lol

E pick race , dem no born am well make e explain those two statement of Rev 20 vs 13 I asked him without entering Gbege

Peacefullove:
That guy is mentally insane .budaatum abeg no follow am talk lol

E pick race , dem no born am well make e explain those two statement of Rev 20 vs 13 I asked him without entering Gbege

We are waiting for the Bible verse that says those who died at sea don't go to hell.

Abi e no get verse?

You think you can assume from silence and expect us to give an answer from that your argument from silence?
Rev 20:13
13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

Since you like quoting phrases and making your conclusion from the phrases you must answer my question o.


The phrase just said the sea gave up the dead that were in it. It didn't say whether they went to hell or they went to heaven or they remained on earth.


YOU JUST ASSUMED THAT SINCE BIBLE DIDN'T SAY WHERE THEY WENT TO OR WHAT HAPPENED TO THEM YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO ASSUME THAT THOSE WHO DIED AT SEA DIDN'T GO TO HEAVEN.


Your conclusion/answer is not even in the Bible.

Shame did not allow you to even give the verse that said those who died at sea don't go to hell

Peacefullove:
That guy is mentally insane .budaatum abeg no follow am talk lol

E pick race , dem no born am well make e explain those two statement of Rev 20 vs 13 I asked him without entering Gbege

You are ashamed that you guys preach that salvation is only guaranteed by joining watchtower organization?
You have become ashamed of what you were defending the other day when you even had to remove a word from the sentence so as to lie to justify your doctrine

Hairyrapunzel:


The jehovah that is not twisted and all loving says he will slaughter 8 billion people for not joining the publishing company/coporation called watchtower organization and obeying the ever changing Bible interpretation of self appointed 8 old men in new York who call themselves governing body/faithful and discrete slave and also say they are the only channel of communication between God and man today so 8 million Jw can inherit earth and live forever in it because their leaders told them so.


Your God is so all loving yet he can't wait to commit the greatest genocide ever known to man. Clap for yourselves and your jehovah.
Pot Calling kettle black

Are you a JW? Can a JW please explain if Jehovah says he will kill 8b people?

Hairyrapunzel:


You are ashamed that you guys preach that salvation is only guaranteed by joining watchtower organization?

Do JW say, "salvation is only guaranteed by joining watchtower organization?

(All religions actually say the same. Primesky, a Christian says it about Jesus!)

budaatum:

Do JW say, "salvation is only guaranteed by joining watchtower organization?

(All religions actually say the same. Primesky, a Christian says it about Jesus!)

That's because the Bible which all Christians are bound to follow says that the only way your salvation is guaranteed is by believing in Jesus Christ.

Hairyrapunzel:


That's because the Bible which all Christians are bound to follow says that the only way your salvation is guaranteed is by believing in Jesus Christ.

Define "believing". I'm sure he also said "Lord! Lord!" and "toothache" and "I will deny you if you do not do my will!"

budaatum:

Define "believing". I'm sure he also said "Lord! Lord!" and "toothache" and "I will deny you if you do not do my will!"

Check your dictionary or ask google. Since you believe that your jehovah will slaughter 8 billion people so you and the remaining 7 million jws can live in lala land because you belong to the publishing company called watchtower organization no problem.


Keep believing your magazine doctrines no wahala and keep wishing for destruction.

Hairyrapunzel:


Check your dictionary or ask google. Since you believe that your jehovah will slaughter 8 billion people so you and the remaining 7 million jws can live in lala land because you belong to the publishing company called watchtower organization no problem.

Excuse me, but who told you I "believe jehovah will slaughter 8 billion people"?

Hairyrapunzel:


We are waiting for the Bible verse that says those who died at sea don't go to hell.

Abi e no get verse?

You think you can assume from silence and expect us to give an answer from that your argument from silence?
Rev 20:13
13 And the sea gave up [b] the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

Since you like quoting phrases and making your conclusion from the phrases you must answer my question o.


The phrase just said the sea gave up the dead that were in it. It didn't say whether they went to hell or they went to heaven or they remained on earth.


YOU JUST ASSUMED THAT SINCE BIBLE DIDN'T SAY WHERE THEY WENT TO OR WHAT HAPPENED TO THEM YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO ASSUME THAT THOSE WHO DIED AT SEA DIDN'T GO TO HEAVEN.


Your conclusion/answer is not even in the Bible.

Shame did not allow you to even give the verse that said those who died at sea don't go to hell

If your brai.n is working enough to process the statement in Red , you won't have been lost.

Were in where ? In where ? Sea NOT hell o . stupid boy

budaatum:

Excuse me, but who told you I "believe jehovah will slaughter 8 billion people"?

Buda , Lol

From what I heard that guy is a former member and was thrown out , he is pained to the extent that that nonsense of killing 8 billion people is what he spams with everywhere. And the Jw guys have asked said they never said such. That guy has mental issues .

Notice that when I said those who died in the sea remain in the sea and quote his own bible for him. His low reasoning didn't allow him get the point even though it was crystal clear in his Bible.

Peacefullove:



If your brai.n is working enough to process the statement in Red , you won't have been lost.

Were in where ? In where ? Sea NOT hell o . stupid boy

So were in the Bible does it say those who died at sea don't go to hell?

Peacefullove:


Buda , Lol

From what I heard that guy is a former member and was thrown out , he is pained to the extent that that nonsense of killing 8 billion people is what he spams with everywhere. And the Jw guys have asked said they never said such. That guy has mental issues .

Notice that when I said those who died in the sea remain in the sea and quote his own bible for him. His low reasoning didn't allow him get the point even though it was crystal clear in his Bible.

Where is the verse that says those who died in the sea remain in the sea or don't go to hell?
Abi no bible verse?


"Only Jehovah's Witnesses, those of the anointed remnant and the "great crowd," as a united organization under the protection of the Supreme Organizer, have any Scriptural hope of surviving the impending end of this doomed system dominated by Satan the Devil." Watchtower 1989 Sep 1 p.19


"In effect, Jesus also conveys Jehovah’s voice to us as he directs the congregation through “the faithful and discreet slave.” (Matt. 24:45) We need to take this guidance and direction seriously, for our everlasting life depends on our obedience." Watchtower 2014 Aug 15 p.21



During the final period of the ancient world that perished in the Flood, Noah was a faithful preacher of righteousness. (2 Peter 2:5) In these last days of the present system of things, Jehovah's people are making known Gods righteous standards and are declaring good news about the possibility of surviving into the new world. (2 Peter 3:9-13) Just as Noah and his God-fearing family were preserved in the ark, survival of individuals today depends on their faith and their loyal association with the earthly part of Jehovah's universal organization." Watchtower 2006 May 15 p.22 "Are You Prepared for Survival?"


"Is it presumptuous of Jehovah's Witnesses to point out that they alone have God's backing? Actually, no more so than when the Israelites in Egypt claimed to have God's backing in spite of the Egyptians' belief, or when the first-century Christians claimed to have God's backing to the exclusion of Jewish religionists." Watchtower 2001 Jun 1 p.16


"Similarly, Jehovah is using only one organization today to accomplish his will. [b]To receive everlasting life in the earthly Paradise we must identify that organization and serve God as part of it." [/b]Watchtower 1983 Feb 15 p.12

"There are billions of people who do not know Jehovah. Many of them in ignorance practice things that God's Word shows to be wicked. If they persist in this course, they will be among those who perish during the great tribulation." Watchtower 1993 Oct 1 p.19


"In the near future this generation will see the foretold “great tribulation” that will bring an end to this present wicked system. (Matt. 24:21) At that time none of Jehovah’s faithful servants, the only ones surviving, will mourn over the destruction of the wicked. To the contrary, they will rejoice, even as Moses and his people rejoiced at the destruction of Pharaoh and his army." Watchtower 1977 Jun 1 p.345

Hairyrapunzel:


So were in the Bible does it say those who died at sea don't go to hell?

Eeyah, low brain
Oga, answer me. Sea release the dead which were in WHERE ?
Rev 20 vs 13

Peacefullove:



If your brai.n is working enough to process the statement in Red , you won't have been lost.

Were in where ? In where ? Sea NOT hell o . stupid boy

See who is calling someone stupid boy. Even more foolish. Let's analyse your assumption and your false statement

Rev 20:12-15
12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

[b]13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: [/b]and they were judged every man according to their works.

14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire



Since the sea giving up the dead in them means that those who died in sea do not go to hell,

Therefore, death and hell giving up the dead in them means those who died in death and those who died in hell were judged every man according to their works.

Then death and hell was thrown into the lake of fire this was the second death

Then the Bible now went further to say that anyone not found in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire.


So first we have established that since the sea giving up the dead in it means those who died in sea therefore death giving up the dead in them means those who died in death and hell giving up the dead in them means those who died in hell right?

Peacefullove:


Eeyah, low brain
Oga, answer me. Sea release the dead which were in WHERE ?
Rev 20 vs 13

See high brain assuming things.
So there are people that die in death and people that die in hell right since it's about people that die in sea right?

Hairyrapunzel:


See high brain assuming things.
So there are people that die in death and people that die in hell right since it's about people that die in sea right?

Sea release The dead which were IN IT . . IN IT. in It, IN IT . how many times will I type that before you get sense ?


Yeah according to your Bible, some dead are in the Sea and others in hell .

Peacefullove:


Sea release The dead which were IN IT . . IN IT. in It, IN IT . how many times will I type that before you get sense ?


Yeah according to your Bible, some dead are in the Sea and others in hell .

Some dead are also in death also right?

Hairyrapunzel:


Some dead are also in death also right?

NO WONDER, get schooled

It says death AND hell . there is a reason for that.

GOD'S WORD® Translation
I looked, and there was a pale horse, and its rider's name was Death. Hell followed him. They were given power over one-fourth of the earth to kill people using wars, famines, plagues, and the wild animals on the earth.
- Rev 6 vs 8



Hell Followed him
both are together.

Can you now see you don't know shishi?

So finally we establish , hell kept some dead and sea kept others ., agree ?

Peacefullove:


NO WONDER, get schooled

It says death AND hell . there is a reason for that.

GOD'S WORD® Translation
I looked, and there was a pale horse, and its rider's name was Death. Hell followed him. They were given power over one-fourth of the earth to kill people using wars, famines, plagues, and the wild animals on the earth.
- Rev 6 vs 8



Hell Followed him
both are together.

Can you now see you don't know shishi?

So finally we establish , hell kept some dead and sea kept others ., agree ?

Death even kept the dead too right

Hairyrapunzel:


Death even kept the dead too right

Yeah. In hell following him .

Why are those in the sea kept IN IT .in the sea ? Not hell

Peacefullove:


NO WONDER, get schooled

It says death AND hell . there is a reason for that.

GOD'S WORD® Translation
I looked, and there was a pale horse, and its rider's name was Death. Hell followed him. They were given power over one-fourth of the earth to kill people using wars, famines, plagues, and the wild animals on the earth.
- Rev 6 vs 8



Hell Followed him
both are together.

Can you now see you don't know shishi?

So finally we establish , hell kept some dead and sea kept others ., agree ?

Since you wrote the Bible and know the reason. Since hell and death are people then sea must be a person too.

Since sea giving up the dead in them means those who died in sea (the person) therefore death and hell giving up the dead in them means those who died in death and hell (people) respectively

Peacefullove:


Yeah. In hell following him .

Why are those in the sea kept IN IT .in the sea ? Not hell

So they are both people right?

Hairyrapunzel:


So they are both people right?

Hell is now a person ? interesting.

Face what your Bible said : do you agree with your bible that those dead in.the sea are IN the sea ?

Hairyrapunzel:


Since you wrote the Bible and know the reason. Since hell and death are people then sea must be a person too.



Since sea giving up the dead in them means those who died in sea (the person) therefore death and hell giving up the dead in them means those who died in death and hell (people) respectively

Do you assume they are persons ?

So finally, do you now accept what your Bible said that those dead in the sea are in the sea ?

Peacefullove:


Do you assume they are persons ?

So finally, do you now accept what your Bible said that those dead in the sea are in the sea ?

Rev 6:8
8 And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.


You said hell was following him. You said because hell followed the rider whose name was death so hell and death are together na.
That's why I said since death is a person (rider) according to you hell and sea are people too.

Hairyrapunzel:

Rev 6:8
8 And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.


You said hell was following him. You said because hell followed the rider whose name was death so hell and death are together na.
That's why I said since death is a person (rider) according to you hell and sea are people too.

According to me . silly boy
Peacefullove wrote the verse and said Death rides a horse .

Your Bible said those in the sea are IN IT , do you agree ?